Historians Were Astounded When Workers Discovered A Secret Room In Thomas Jefferson’s Mansion

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  • @helenboula7488
    @helenboula7488 6 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    We know the history, show the hidden room

  • @swanlake8827
    @swanlake8827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    How do they know the room they found belonged to Sally? Also, I agree the person that said a slave cannot be a mistress. Being a “mistress” means you had a choice. Even if TJ did not force himself on her I’m sure Sally felt like she had no choice. One thing that really ticked me off about this video is when the narrator said that Sally could have stayed in France and been freed. Sally was 15 yrs old...she was a CHILD when she was SENT to France. She did not know anyone there...she did not speak the language...she had no job and no money...and she was PREGNANT! Her family was back on the plantation so hell yeah she went back... what other choice did the child have?

    • @aisensantana6765
      @aisensantana6765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She was 13 years old

    • @officiallybrenda
      @officiallybrenda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, she was learning French and of course she would have met other French people.

    • @jasonshumate6456
      @jasonshumate6456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He could have sent here out to pasture, Im sure another women would come into the house .
      They had 6 children together she lived in an Iconic Mansion 15 to 63,
      He kept his promises, pretending he is a Rapist is Disgusting, he was married and his wife died she was her sister and took her place.
      His bill to end Slavery missed by one vote. A democrat had a cold then War of 1812 started,
      Washington end bring slaves into America.
      You want to judge??450,000 dead.
      Cities burned & Livestock stolen.
      Or President McKinley 1898
      Wilmington Insurrection
      Hes a POS.
      When no one in the world was saying or doing anything our Founders were.O

    • @jasonshumate6456
      @jasonshumate6456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aisensantana6765 she was 15,a man was lucky to live past 45. Its still that age south of the United States.
      just like Cleopatra when she met Julius Caesar, and had his child, that was marrying age for most of the 1900's it is pathetic if you hold this Great man to a standard that doesn't exist.look up history, his freedom bill didn't pass by 1 vote 1 democrat had a cold
      Then the War of 1812.
      Slavery was here for 160 years before America.
      King James1619AD to
      King George 1784AD

    • @Americanpatriot-zo2tk
      @Americanpatriot-zo2tk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I’m gonna agree with you on that particular point

  • @theemarydee1610
    @theemarydee1610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    How the hell does a man have an “affair “ with a person he owned? Stop romanticizing this story!!! She was “kept” for him to do as he pleased with her. This narrative sickens me!!!!!

    • @euphegenia
      @euphegenia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Shut up

    • @checkcheck2125
      @checkcheck2125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@euphegenia No you shut up he’s exactly right this is down right sickening.

    • @jenn2847
      @jenn2847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@euphegenia white

    • @floridabigbear
      @floridabigbear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did you listen? It said he “kept” her and she was his concubine. Maybe look that word up. Instead of hearing the word affair and hurrying to type your complaints why not listen first? I think by affair they went, he was cheating on his wife.

    • @breonahamilton
      @breonahamilton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@floridabigbear sir… an affair involves two willing people, a slave doesn’t have that freedom of choice so it wasn’t an affair. he was simply abusing her bc she wouldn’t have a choice either way. they are trying to sugarcoat the story so white people won’t be uncomfortable but it’s time we tell the truth exactly how it was. there was no affair bc he wasn’t f*cking a free woman. please get it straight.

  • @virginiathomas5199
    @virginiathomas5199 6 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    Slaves cannot be mistresses as they have no say so

    • @peterweissmann7794
      @peterweissmann7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      From memory TJ left the property to her. She was a slave by title only I'm sure. Still I can think of better circumstances.

    • @sunflowerroark5170
      @sunflowerroark5170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very true and well said. It was legal then because even the church sanctioned slavery.

    • @peterweissmann7794
      @peterweissmann7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sunflowerroark5170 Thank you if that was directed at me. Slavery is mentioned in the Bible. RACISM is not.

    • @denisshillingford5891
      @denisshillingford5891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@peterweissmann7794 white racist always Justified racism. is there a white racist sociopath trying to find excuses for young girl being raped by a nasty slave owner you Simple Simon ignorance..

    • @peterweissmann7794
      @peterweissmann7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@denisshillingford5891 And by the way. My bible doesn't have any pictures & please don't charge me for your diagnosis.
      And I was always taught to treat everyone as individuals. It seems to me that you weren't.

  • @Exostars77-A
    @Exostars77-A 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Sally Hemings was aged 14 when Jefferson first “took her”, pregnant at 15 and gave birth to the first of 6 children for Jefferson at just aged 16.
    He was in his forties.
    Jefferson kept Hemings as his slave right up to his death in his 80s. A “thing” that he could sell like a desk or a chair and do whatever he wanted to. And do to her as he wished is exactly what he did, day in day out for 40 years.
    He also kept his own children with Hemings as his slaves, his chattels. Imagine that, eh, your own children as slaves.
    She was enslaved, with no free will to give consent to sexual intercourse.
    She was just aged 13 or 14. He was a much older man.
    That is not a “romance”. It is vile abuse of a vulnerable child. A complete denial of human rights, dignity and respect,
    Slavery was a desperately wicked institution. A stain on the nation’s conscience; or it would be, if America had one.

    • @jasonshumate6456
      @jasonshumate6456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      POS! At 15 was child rearing age,
      In the 1700's, how do you know she didnt initiate the Sex to get ahead, she seemed like she was crafty working a deal for her Children before they are born? There is a ton of Speculation.
      But she understood who he was and who are you to attack a dead man for dating a younger woman.
      Do you know what the lifespan was for the average women was in the 1700's and like I said you're a huge POS.
      Omg he Kept his Children in the House? With their Father. The fkn Guy was building a Country, in Mexico they still marry at 15.
      He couldve thrown her away like Trash any fkn time he wanted but he didnt, and she died in a Plantation house where she worked a sweet deal, you get out the Bunkhouse with my Sisters grieving Widower.
      Sounds like a Sugar Daddy and you weren't There anyway and people of low character like you attack a dead man who's country you hide in. If you dont like the Country he provided for you. The Fuck off.
      You; she couldve possibly be 10 & 1/2 years when raped by TJ.
      No, she worked a grieving man, he started getting attention in Paris where he was a FKN Rockstar, off of his Revolution and French Women were Ready. Sally seen her chance slipping away & bam.
      See anyone can make shit up.
      & You act like Slaves are stupid.

    • @jamescook6564
      @jamescook6564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You cannot look at 16th-18th century issues through 21 century eyes. Times were different.

    • @rupruprup8690
      @rupruprup8690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was a pervert

  • @blastoffasia9505
    @blastoffasia9505 6 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    Workers? You mean slaves ?????????

    • @dedimaju5051
      @dedimaju5051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I know! Right?!

    • @sharonsmalls6846
      @sharonsmalls6846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CONCUBINE, she was his slave!!!

    • @jberry1982
      @jberry1982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Workers slaves same thing lol they wasn't treated like you see in the movie django they costed to damn much for that shit and the Yankees didn't give 2 fucks about slaves being free or not they emancipated them to disrupt the economy in the south halfway thru the war cuz we wasn't backing down even after Gettysburg we sprung up steel mills and kept on fighting em hard so they freed them to hurt manpower and war material production here to possibly weaken our infrastructure which it made little difference really but Yankees will say to this day the war was entirely to free slaves in which it was the major tax revenue they was losing after the 11 states succeeded away and they was fighting to regain that revenue they was losing they was totally fine getting the 40% tax we paid to the Yankees 20% taxes amongst the Republicans and we southerners didn't take very kindly to that plus like revolutionary war started over we didn't want some Yankee president that was a lawyer none the less telling us what to do nor h ow to do it George Washington said in the beginning of his presidency no lawyer shall cross this threshold and we were making good on that statement then as we would now .... you know how history is written though I'm sure purely by the victors only

    • @janetownley
      @janetownley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, workers, because they’re referring to something which just happened in 2017!

    • @janetownley
      @janetownley 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justin Berryman - Are you against punctuation marks

  • @marleneg7794
    @marleneg7794 6 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Relationship? Im pretty sure hen you dont have a say in participating in a sexual encounter it is RAPE!

    • @peterweissmann7794
      @peterweissmann7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe she did....................

    • @sugaredwards6207
      @sugaredwards6207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Peter Weissmann You can't say "no" -- legally-- when your master decides to use your body for sexual satisfaction. Not to mention she was 14 or 15 and a child cannot legally consent either.

    • @peterweissmann7794
      @peterweissmann7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sugaredwards6207 Sally Hemming was half sister to Martha Jefferson. Sally could've just walk off on TJ when they were in france yet decided to come back to America with him. They respected each other but were not in love but the relationship is believed to be consensual.
      I haven't heard anything that she was underage when the relationship started (you'd think someone would bring that up).

    • @peterweissmann7794
      @peterweissmann7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sugaredwards6207 Actually the relationship may have started in France which would make her about mid teens.

    • @sugaredwards6207
      @sugaredwards6207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Peter Weissmann
      She was a child (legally unable to consent) & a slave (also legally cannot consent-- like a prisoner of war). As an enslaved CHILD impregnated by an American President, there's no way she'd consider running away in Paris, esp knowing her whole family was still there & could be punished for it.

  • @jalhchocd
    @jalhchocd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    can you say that an enslaved woman has a choice in being a "misterss"???

    • @erinrising2799
      @erinrising2799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      she was underage at the beginning of their "relationship" as well 😕

    • @micheledavis9280
      @micheledavis9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He owned her so no! Sally did set guidelines when she returned to the home

  • @d.v.crystal5589
    @d.v.crystal5589 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Hey, you can't call it a romance or a relationship when half the 'couple' was FRIKIN OWNED by the other half. Get a clue.

    • @mattdinero5870
      @mattdinero5870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How do you know how she felt about the man?

    • @katburgess8533
      @katburgess8533 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you had listened to the whole video,or not just picked out certain parts,she could have been a free person in France, since slavery had been abolished by the time they travelled there. But she returned to the US with Jefferson. Just saying,it appears that she did have a choice at one point.

  • @kayp.7757
    @kayp.7757 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    An ancestor of mine was a master carpenter who worked on building Monticello. The craftsmen who worked there actually lived on the premises while they completed their tasks.

  • @Arca9ine91
    @Arca9ine91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    This channel reminds me of a few people I know who take about 20 minutes to tell a 3 minute story.

  • @davidcordon7674
    @davidcordon7674 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When he wrote ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, he was talking about his fellow white folk, in those days, people of color, including native Americans were not believed to be humans, but animals, and they were treated as such.

  • @kmaher1424
    @kmaher1424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jefferson never actively worked for abolition. He criticized slavery a bit early on, inconsistently. But stopped after he returned from Paris.
    None of the Hemings children were formally freed. They left and were not pursued.

  • @kaycook5563
    @kaycook5563 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The narrator's statement that Jefferson's life, after his wife's death, was not without "romance" in referring to his relationship with Sally Hemmings is a gross and callous misstatement of that relationship. He owned her.

  • @ceeceeceecee5280
    @ceeceeceecee5280 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If Sally only knew we would be discussing her life FOREVER....

  • @eastny1973
    @eastny1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Its disgusting that they would sell thier own children....they raped these girls and then kept the child as a slave and sold them for the right price!! Horrible and sad!!!

    • @loriminnesota
      @loriminnesota ปีที่แล้ว

      So how do you feel about all these men denying paternity nowadays and treating their own children like they don't exist and letting the state pay for them? Ever watch Maury Povich?

    • @eastny1973
      @eastny1973 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loriminnesota it still is disgusting!! Im not defending this behavior in our society! In what ever era its still something unacceptable!!

  • @whoopsydaisy6389
    @whoopsydaisy6389 6 ปีที่แล้ว +585

    "Relationship". He owned her so lets not pretend like they were on equal footing and she had a choice.

    • @SandsTimeDiscoBiscuitShow
      @SandsTimeDiscoBiscuitShow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Whoopsy Daisy had a comom-law marriage her, gave her property, a name and raised thier children together.

    • @pedromeza2398
      @pedromeza2398 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Whoopsy Daisy you are correct, and that is an issue that needs to be seen from the historical perspective of what rights women had in those times. Sally was already pregnant and did what most Mothers continue to do even in today's time, they sacrifice themselves for their children.

    • @viriknavarro3165
      @viriknavarro3165 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The man was opposed to the practice of slavery. I'm rather certain if any of it is true, she could've refused his advances without repercussion or maybe she was the one making the advances.
      Once upon a time, males and females weren't so concerned about who had "the power" in a relationship. They were far more concerned with not being invaded, attacked by a foreign element. Oh, to occupy our minds with such trivial things for the most selfish of interests. How beautiful and joyous we've become...

    • @scorpiocarnage1055
      @scorpiocarnage1055 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Virik Navarro But did she know she could refuse and did he believe that she had a right to refuse? We are talking about an age when women didn't have rights and blacks in Western ideology weren't considered human. Jefferson was a brilliant man but he was still a flawed one. Remember, he was opposed to slavery but he still kept slaves. And he only freed some of them.

    • @tinawebb9124
      @tinawebb9124 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Scorpio Carnage I completely agree with you, I don’t think she could have refused and I’m pretty sure she would of felt like she had no choice in the matter, like you said let’s not forget this was a man so against owning human beings as slaves that he actually forgot that he still owned his own. Maybe he had one set of rules for him and another set for the rest of society. Also replying because I normally see people’s comments months or years after they are posted, this is the first time I’ve seen a comment only half an hour after posting it. X

  • @Perfict1
    @Perfict1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    If you refer to a thirteen by fifteen-foot room as _tiny,_ then I have to see where you live.

    • @darkonc2
      @darkonc2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it could be better described as a 13x15 batchelor apartment. Her children probably lived there with her -- at least while they were young.

    • @renlentlesstourist7574
      @renlentlesstourist7574 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      13 by 15 feet is just a little bigger than my bedroom. You can still cant fit very much in it. if i put a double bed in there it would look quote weird. i could put a double in there, bu it wouldnt leave much room for much else.
      15x13m however would be a very different story.
      but 15x13ft isnt really much at all.

  • @aussieguy55
    @aussieguy55 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It seems Thomas Jefferson was bonking Sally Hemmings mother. Two good books on the relationship of Sally with Jefferson are The Hemingses of Monticello by Annette Gordon-Reed and Thomas Jefferson: An Intimate History. So the room was next to Jeffersons bedroom How convenient.

  • @ellenpritchard5828
    @ellenpritchard5828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I want to know HOW anyone knows that that room was Sally’s room??

    • @swilliams1759
      @swilliams1759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Visitors to Monticello, while Jefferson lived there, wrote about the house and described this room.

  • @preludedudesi5208
    @preludedudesi5208 6 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Ok so over 4 mins in and still nothing of whats in the secret room

    • @ghostcityshelton9378
      @ghostcityshelton9378 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Prelude Dude Si Go to: Daily-Tube to see Archaelogists find Sally Hemings room in Monticello. There you can see the room.

    • @ibbriman3351
      @ibbriman3351 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A brick wall 🤔

    • @technicholls
      @technicholls 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      CLICK BAIT - there is NO "secret room"!

    • @quiettman11
      @quiettman11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WELL SURE NO EARLY CONDOMS.

    • @jbindallas
      @jbindallas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      8 minutes in and still just as boring and void of content

  • @judyholiday653
    @judyholiday653 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have been to Monticello numerous times and for me the most interesting part of it is the gardens and the family cemetery ..

    • @dianheffernan3436
      @dianheffernan3436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Montablaune? Mr.Rourke... Freaky, question... Did he do the same to the people on that island?(fantasy)

  • @terrywade3696
    @terrywade3696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Having done my genealogy of Thomas Jefferson (who’s in my family tree), I discovered that history is being rewritten regarding him and Sally Hemming. Thomas Jefferson and his best friend, Dabney Carr used to study their schoolwork together under a large oak tree on the mount Monticello. They made a pact that whoever died first, the other would bury the other under that tree. Dabney later married Thomas’ sister, Martha. Dabney and Martha had a son, Peter, Thomas’ nephew. The Jefferson DNA was extracted from a relative of Thomas. During Thomas’ Presidency, there was a lot of gossip started that Thomas fathered Sally’s children. It’s true that Sally was fathered by Thomas’ father-in-law and she was indeed a half sister of his wife. Peter was a scoundrel and the family knew that he was the father of Sally’s children. When Thomas’ wife died, he was so inconsolable that his daughters feared he might die and for a time, he wasn’t in his right mind from his grief of losing his beloved wife. The family letters verify this and that Peter was bringing shame and scandal to the family. Grandma Eppes even disinherited Peter from her will because of it! Jefferson’s daughters pleaded with him to clear his name publicly but he would not because he didn’t want to bring shame to his, now widowed sister and the memory of his best friend Dabney, who was now buried under the oak tree on Monticello, as promised. The questionable DNA is indeed a Jefferson. Martha Jefferson Carr, Thomas’ sister and mother of Peter the actual father of Sally’s children! It really didn’t take me much digging to find the letters and wills and all the family discussions about Peter! The scandal was in the newspapers of that time and President Thomas Jefferson suffered for it instead of ungrateful Peter. Thomas never recovered from losing his beloved wife.

    • @guitarmusic6227
      @guitarmusic6227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's incredible. Can you share with me those letters and info sources? I'd love to see it for myself.

    • @communingwithGod
      @communingwithGod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The DNA proves otherwise, how is it that his DNA- Thomas Jeffersons is in one of Sally's children's DNA, lol. Can you explain that. It couldn't have come from Peter.

    • @communingwithGod
      @communingwithGod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I'd like to see the letters please.

    • @terrywade3696
      @terrywade3696 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@communingwithGod I did explain it in my comment. The Jefferson DNA was extracted from a relative of Thomas Jefferson (see the fifth line of my comment)! All people in the Jefferson family have Jefferson DNA. This includes Thomas Jefferson’s sister and her son, Peter! Peter has Jefferson DNA because of his mother, is the sister of Thomas Jefferson! The DNA that was collected to prove that “a” Jefferson fathered Sally Hemming’s children was not extracted from the former President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson. It was extracted from his relative, an uncle! I don’t know how many ways to explain it to you except to say that Thomas, his uncle (where the DNA came from), his sister, his nephew and Sally Hemming’s children ALL carry the Jefferson DNA! But the Jefferson family records claim that his nephew, Peter, fathered Sally’s children! No one dug up President Jefferson to extract DNA. It was gathered from his exhumed uncle to establish the Hemming’s claim of Jefferson DNA! No other DNA was tested!

    • @valor101arise
      @valor101arise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow. Fascinating. It just goes to show that any story can be told to fit a narrative or used for other's agendas. That breaks my heart

  • @jumemowery9434
    @jumemowery9434 6 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Click bait. ...mostly about his slave "mistress" not much about the secret room

    • @balboro2854
      @balboro2854 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was never secret, and they don't even know that was her room. But it sure makes it sound interesting to say they've found her secret room!

    • @georgemckenzie1824
      @georgemckenzie1824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Jume- just curious as to how a slave, gets the title of mistress? her title is rape victim....

    • @trudybeakman367
      @trudybeakman367 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She was a rape victim not a mistress

    • @jwduded1758
      @jwduded1758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bull Shit.

    • @jwduded1758
      @jwduded1758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@trudybeakman367 Bulll Shhhit

  • @bwwestman
    @bwwestman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Did he just say the room was 13 X 15 feet? That is bigger than most master bedrooms in the average house today. Or have people downsized their own expectations for living? And the room did not seem very "secret"

    • @ghostcityshelton9378
      @ghostcityshelton9378 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blake Westman To see the room go to : on Daily-Tube (video) Archaelogists find Sally Hemings room in Monticello.

    • @CCLXII
      @CCLXII 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blake Westman does that make it ok though. The fact that they were never seen in public together tells you a lot

    • @JRobbySh
      @JRobbySh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, indeed.

    • @ralphpalo8618
      @ralphpalo8618 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blake .

    • @gillianfranklin4515
      @gillianfranklin4515 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A cage is still a cage gilded or not.

  • @yvettejones4249
    @yvettejones4249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He shouldn't even hold the title of founding father. No one who owned over two hundred slaves should.

    • @jamesnewman5341
      @jamesnewman5341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's really good that you made that decision for us since you have all the facts.

  • @djohn9501
    @djohn9501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thomas Jefferson was a human being like most of us. He was indeed was a great President and did wonderful work including drafting of US Constitution that has the phrase, "All men (and wemen) are created equal". It is being unfair to a good human being. Let the one sinless judge him. Long live Thomas Jefferson's memory for his contribution to his great country!

    • @djohn9501
      @djohn9501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To criticize him for his relationship with Sally which was more long lasting than most of the marriages in the Western world today is being unfair to Jefferson.

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 ปีที่แล้ว

      He married a widow grieving her firstborn son. He inherited any slave he owned through his wife. He had a 38 year long affair with his sister-in-law. He honored his wife’s deathbed wish to remain unmarried. He inherited the debts of his father-in-law & never got out of debt. He was a polymath. Sally, in Paris at age 14-15, looked to be 15-16 under the discerning eye of Abigail Adams, whom stated that the teen seemed silly & frivolous. (Doesn’t sound like a suffering slave much). Let me know how any man with rapidly growing debts & half kin slaves (135+) from the age of 30-ish keeps all these mouths fed, bodies clothed, & runs a farm, governs a state, takes week-long horse rides back & forth to Philadelphia, NY & wherever… modern dudes are 30, never leaving mom’s basement.

  • @cocola485
    @cocola485 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Jefferson/Hemings union seems to have resulted in a lot of wonderful people. I would love to know their thoughts on this episode in history.

    • @TheWoodland12
      @TheWoodland12 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can find lots of videos of them speaking on their thoughts . I even found an old Oprah show episode from before I was even born of the relatives.

  • @whowhat4573
    @whowhat4573 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I already knew about Sally. I wanted to hear about the room in the title, no such luck.
    The title should tell you what the story is about!

  • @rogerthat5459
    @rogerthat5459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Call it what it is: RAPE. Not an "affair, relationship, love affair, etc."

  • @davidmicheletti6292
    @davidmicheletti6292 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He saw nothing wrong with owning over 600 slaves during his life. Sally was his slave but also his wife’s half sister. A really sad statement of the beliefs of people from that time frame. I try not to judge but that is one aspect of history I can never accept. My sister in law is black and I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that this sweet persons ancestors were someone’s slave.

  • @earlinebeaman684
    @earlinebeaman684 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You people talk about slavery like it was some type of job employment that the slaves were working. The people were under a legal system that they could not legally escape from and were treated with great cruelty. This isn't a life they would have chosen for themselves.

    • @feralbluee
      @feralbluee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      they didn't ALL get treated with cruelty - do your homework and stop relying
      on what hate mongering people promulgate!!!

    • @stikupartist3698
      @stikupartist3698 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@feralbluee tell us more about the these slaves who lived a fulfilling happy life.

  • @tadstrange1465
    @tadstrange1465 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "She was his third cousin"
    I'm sorry what

    • @pissoff61
      @pissoff61 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats practically not blood no mo tho

  • @Redfiregtag
    @Redfiregtag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its crazy to think that he was ok with his own children being his slaves.

  • @swimbait1
    @swimbait1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    So Jefferson inherited 170 slaves, a house, and 5000 acres by his early 20s then after losing his wife got a 15 year old space pregnant. Yep he sounds like a real American hero.

    • @brucesnow7125
      @brucesnow7125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      People love romanticizing the past and turning A-holes into heroes they never were. Everyone wants to live in a lie rather than face the actual truth.

    • @sunflowerroark5170
      @sunflowerroark5170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah place him right up there with Stalin

    • @denisshillingford5891
      @denisshillingford5891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sally was not 15 when he began to rape her she was a lot younger than that. Sally was what they would call a bed warmer at first. she would lay up under the covers at the foot of their feet and warm them up. it was then that Thomas Jefferson begin to rape this little girl

    • @liktom
      @liktom 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@denisshillingford5891 Fact is it was so long ago it is impossible to know the truth. Still I read that Jefferson had a cousin who owned a Plantation in Virginia that could be responsible for the mixed race children.

    • @ulyssesgrant4324
      @ulyssesgrant4324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Swimbait1 I love him because he’s a founding father not because his personal life
      Jesus Christ people

  • @smackpopcrackysmak8337
    @smackpopcrackysmak8337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His wife told him not to marry cause of children, he completely did what she didn’t want him to do, the reason why she said not to marry.

  • @j.g.c.2494
    @j.g.c.2494 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    don't say "african-american slaves"; at that time, they were not citizens or americans.

    • @theaword270
      @theaword270 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      j. g.c. Neither were white ppl, they made themselves citizens and “Americans “.

  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here are the facts- Sally Hemming pursued Jefferson to get the privileges of his rank and she was NOT a slave when the affair began. Jefferson was appointed minister to France in 1784 and when there he asked to have one of his slaves sent to France to be his valet. Sally hemming was described as very beautiful and so near white that it was difficult to tell she was a negro. Through some clever maneuvering she managed to get the job and went to France. There, she used her beauty and the fact that Jefferson was far from home to seduce him. France had effectively abolished slavery in that same year, so when Sally stepped off the boat onto French soil she was a free woman and could have gone anywhere she wanted. However, what she wanted was Jefferson and she stayed with him until his return in 1789. As a free woman she was in no way obliged to return to slavery in America, but did so of her own free will.

  • @gonefishing2012
    @gonefishing2012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My question would be... If Jefferson would have just let these slaves go, and they left what would have happened to them, would someone else claimed as slaves as soon as they left the property or would they have been free?

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They would have to carry "emancipation" documents with them at ALL times to prove that they were free.

  • @RevRelic
    @RevRelic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You need to read "The Jefferson Lies" by David Barton. Your information is not true.

    • @merediththomas526
      @merediththomas526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just did a quick search! David Barton isn’t actually a historian and isn’t a reputable source. i don’t think we actually need to read this book.

    • @RevRelic
      @RevRelic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It doesn't matter if David Barton is an historian or not. He owns about 90% of Thomas Jefferson's papers. You should read his book anyway. His scholarship sharply refutes the lies in this youtube article.

    • @laquandrialee322
      @laquandrialee322 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RevRelic Thanks. Just found it on Amazon.

    • @merediththomas526
      @merediththomas526 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RevRelic Can you point me to a source that verifies his ownership of those papers? I've read a lot more discrediting Barton than verifying his credibility. I've also read some of his claims and they don't line up with the claims of archaeologists. I don't think his words will hold much truth. Also, I too didn't like this video for multiple reasons, but I fear that none of my reasons correlate with yours.

    • @RevRelic
      @RevRelic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@merediththomas526 Just read his book. There are many today who only want to believe the repeated lies about Jefferson. If you have an open mind, Barton's book will show you Jefferson's own words that refute the lies that have been repeated for more than 200 years.

  • @Indexanimisermo
    @Indexanimisermo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was a slanderous and vicious statement made by Callandar, a local printer, who took revenge on Jefferson when Jefferson cancelled his printing business with Callandar for personal reasons (having to do with Callandar's Hamiltonian leanings. Because it was a large account, Callandar reacted dishonorably by spreading vicious rumors and hear say regarding the alleged affair with Sally Hemmings, a young black woman. Historically, for the record Jefferson's brother and nephew were living at his estate during that time. His relatives did not exactly share Thomas's principles and likely his brother or nephew may have done the deed...this is nothing more than a post-humous slander against one of the most iconic Americans by those who hate USA with a passion, but especially because of ignorance and bias and they just don't read...

    • @loriminnesota
      @loriminnesota ปีที่แล้ว

      In the second half of the 20th century, the historian Winthrop Jordan added new fuel to the fire, arguing in a 1968 book that Sally Hemings became pregnant only when Jefferson was in residence at Monticello. This fact was significant, as he was away fully two-thirds of the time. Jordan’s work sparked a new, more critical phase of Jefferson scholarship in which sought to reconcile Jefferson’s reputation as a principled lover of democracy with his admitted racism and the negative views he expressed about African Americans (common to wealthy Virginia planters of the time).
      In November 1998, new biological evidence surfaced, in the form of a DNA analysis of samples from Field Jefferson, a living descendant of Jefferson’s paternal uncle, and from Eston Hemings (born in 1808). The analysis showed a perfect match between Y-chromosomes-a match with less than one in a thousand chance of being random coincidence. The same study compared DNA between the Hemings line and descendants of Peter Carr’s family, revealing no match. Though the study established probability and not certainty (though several of Jefferson’s male relatives certainly shared that male Y-chromosome, none of them were present at Monticello nine months before each time Sally gave birth), it lent new legitimacy to Madison Hemings’ long-ago claims that Jefferson fathered Madison and his siblings.

    • @billwilliams699
      @billwilliams699 ปีที่แล้ว

      The "young black woman" was 3/ 4 white

  • @rachelwilliams8247
    @rachelwilliams8247 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jefferson was one of the most humanistic and progressive of the early Presidents. So it doesn't surprise me. One of the fondling fathers.

  • @beckweth
    @beckweth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They don't say how they know it was Sally's room.

  • @reyvinicio7269
    @reyvinicio7269 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you know that you guys just made me a bit more wiser? Thanks ...

  • @anthonymorelli1532
    @anthonymorelli1532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13' x15' IS NEXT TO HIS ROOM IS HARDLY LIVING IN CELL THAT'S A BIG ROOM WHY CAN'T THEY ADMIT HE LOVED HER

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why didn't he legalize interracial marriage?

    • @angelajohnsonkeys4199
      @angelajohnsonkeys4199 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He OWNED her? What choice did she have in America? It was illegal to say no to a white person for a person of African descent...

  • @EhurtAfy
    @EhurtAfy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you are outraged, you may be poorly informed. I'm not trying to insult anyone, but there is so much textbook ignorance in this comment section. For starters, there was no concept of a transitory period between childhood and adulthood at this time. Marriage made you an adult, so Thomas Jefferson's greatest scandal in regard to Sally Heming is that he did not marry her. Not only would it have been legal to do so at the time, but it's still legal in 2020 for an adult to marry a 14 year old in about half of America. Read "American Child Bride" and see that it's not only an American tradition to marry young, particularly in rural areas, but there were numerous advantages for young women to marry.
    Applying contemporary morality to history without understanding the views and perspectives of the time is going to be disappointing everytime. Jefferson alone is the reason for many American civil liberties and the Bill of Rights may very well not have been part of the US Constitution at all without him.

  • @technicholls
    @technicholls 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    WARNING!!! - CLICK BAIT - there is NO "secret room"!

  • @sank5589
    @sank5589 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Key word: Rumors, gossip, speculate and none of us were there but of course just bash people that gave us this great nation to have the freedom to pretend you know something. Sounds like he loved her.

  • @shirleymurphy1958
    @shirleymurphy1958 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Why do they rewrite history or add to a story when they can only guess. What makes that room Sally room?

    • @darkonc2
      @darkonc2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As his mistress, he would have wanted easy access to her. Having a black mistress wasn't considered very nice by some people (i.e. an accusation), so not having it obvious would have also been a plus.

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shirley Murphy
      Greed/Money and Ego!

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everybody knew that Jefferson had a black mistress. It was national news, and not hidden
      .

    • @laurafernandez8281
      @laurafernandez8281 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is she really a mistress since their relationship started years after his wife's death.

  • @richb313
    @richb313 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to Virginia Law at the time since the Estate, including the slaves, being used as collateral in loans it was illegal to free his slaves until the title was clear of all encumbrances. This also prevented Washington from free his slaves. Both Jefferson and Washington made provision in their wills to provide for their slaves well being after their deaths. Much has been written, especially in the past thirty years or so that willingly ignore the truth of this. Were both men perfect? No, nor did they pretend to be but their virtue and honor were never really questioned during their lives except by their enemies whose own honor and virtue were never held in high regard. You might ask yourself why has it become so necessary to destroy the memories of these men? What motivates people to willingly mislead people by only giving part of the story and not a more complete telling of it? When you ask yourself that question you will start to understand the motivation of these people.

  • @keithnoneya
    @keithnoneya 6 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    DNA proves it was a Jefferson, but many historians and scientist believe it could have easily been his brother as he spent more time with her and the slaves. Either way they have Jefferson blood in them. Very thought provoking.

    • @pastelitasdelflan
      @pastelitasdelflan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No, it could not "easily" have been his brother. True, his brother would be a genetic match. BUT, and this is significant, Hemings became pregnant only when Thomas Jefferson was resident at Monticello. This is notable because 1) Thomas Jefferson was only there about a third of each year when she became pregnant, and 2) his brother Randolph was *not* at Monticello when she became pregnant.

    • @BLuddenify
      @BLuddenify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't find it thought provoking, it was pretty common practice at the time. They still believed in the four humors, it was a matter of health. Or so they thought.

    • @rickleclair6368
      @rickleclair6368 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keith Noneya was

    • @loganflowers3133
      @loganflowers3133 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Very true. If the narrator believes it was Thomas, that's fine. But to declare it as fact when it isn't is extremely intellectually dishonest.

    • @loganflowers3133
      @loganflowers3133 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Renee Tate no. They are literally incapable of proving it to be Thomas Jefferson because he had no living male descendants. They proved it to be a Jefferson. That's it.

  • @Noneyasauce
    @Noneyasauce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How people can still act so shocked is beyond me. I watched the Jefferson mini series when I was 10 & knew that shit was true 🥴.

  • @fido2644
    @fido2644 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well people are aware that Thomas Jefferson was also supposed to be secretly involved in the underground rail road.
    Yes I know he owned slaves but he was also the loudest voice to free slaves.
    But Thomas Jefferson wanted to free his slaves but could not afford it as you had to give money to the freed slaves for the duration of six months also you had to give them food for six months but you also had to give them land.
    So yes it was expensive to free a slave.
    But it has already been proven that the Sally Hemings affair is untrue as it was a journalist with a grudge that began the rumor, and to this day there is no evidence only speculation and the repeating of rumors.

    • @billyb34usa
      @billyb34usa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wrong

    • @shreddiekrueger359
      @shreddiekrueger359 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jefferson was an enigma. He was an advocate of abolition but abandoned it because he felt the southern states would never accept it, he then looked to other matters he felt he could influence. He could have freed His slaves though, at the time many virginians were freeing their slaves including george washington Who was far more alligned with slavery than jefferson. This is what makes jefferson so interesting, he was a man of enlightenment moral values Who oppossed slavery but through His own actions supported it at home. A true enigma.

  • @AngelicTroubleMaker-LaVooDoo24
    @AngelicTroubleMaker-LaVooDoo24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    RUMORS....WTF!!! U MEAN 100% FACTS.

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crazy how people deny what's right in front of them.

  • @sophie13.wright10
    @sophie13.wright10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Exactly, this was no love story. No relationship. A slave can not consent to anything under those conditions

  • @christymccleary4565
    @christymccleary4565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Life of a victim, who is consistently raped, held by her captor and forced to have sex, birth babies, and work for free. This poor lady and her descendants. This is just one instance of this massive serial rapist pursuits.

  • @smallaxe2097
    @smallaxe2097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing, still have to try and sanitize the truth. That's basically the same as being complicit. Romance? Seriously?
    All I can think is imagine the horror that took place in this house during this period of time? That is nothing to be proud of or celebrate. Celebrate predators?

  • @Anthroliedetector
    @Anthroliedetector 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She was his slave not his mistress he owned her. I did archaeology at Monticello there is no cleaning it up she was a captive and he made babies with her and she was 14 years old there was no consent he was in his twenties I did archaeological Field School there and 2000 she was his wife's half sister

  • @tortugabob
    @tortugabob 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sally Hemmings was Jefferson's third wife's half sister. She was never considered a slave by her father, her sister or Jefferson. When Jefferson's wife died he did have an affair with Sally Hemmings. The slavery concept has been overplayed by current historians and our PC culture which is doing everything it can to cast the founding fathers in a bad light. It gets pretty old hearing the lies over and over again.

  • @NkemOnyeka12
    @NkemOnyeka12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Romance"? Uh...NO! She was property, she did not love him, he did not love her. She did what she was told because she had no power to refuse him a sexual relationship. He never freed her because he didn't want to. It's delusional to paint any part of this with her having a choice at any time, or as a 'relationship'.

  • @Maxfr8
    @Maxfr8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That sucked. I was hoping for a secret room behind a bookcase leading to a clandestine disco Jefferson frequented to smoke opium or something.

  • @Imeraldgyrl
    @Imeraldgyrl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one was in this room when it happened.

  • @missgbooker1598
    @missgbooker1598 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How can one race of people be so inhumane to one another race of people God loves us all and he looks us all the same and his eyes

    • @billyb34usa
      @billyb34usa 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are so wise

    • @tjaspire
      @tjaspire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Easy. You just convince yourself that the other group is not human. It makes enslaving people easier. Dehumanization.

  • @Madea8917
    @Madea8917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All men and woman are not created equal.

  • @joancrowley7825
    @joancrowley7825 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The only thing that is known for sure is that Sally Hemings was Mrs Jefferson's half sister. There is nothing that links Thomas Jefferson to Sally Hemings' except one of Sally's children is genetically related to the Jefferson male line. Thomas was not the only Jefferson whom lived at Montecello.

  • @richardmattingly7000
    @richardmattingly7000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually Jefferson wasn't celibate at all and was having a dalliance with Maria Cosway while stationed in Paris as a diplomat who was married at the time His famous Head /Heart a Letter was to her and had been horrified that she wanted to return with him to America when his duty there ended. Hemings grew up alongside his daughter and the only mention of her in his diary was about her not doing very well in some new enterprise Jefferson was always into to make money. The DNA is questionable in that other members of his family also could of past it on as well but it's likely that some personal relationship with her was likely yet unknown to history.

  • @chairde
    @chairde 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with Jefferson because he was a product of his time. If I owned slaves like he did I would do the exact same thing if I lived in those days. He was a complex man for anytime. You can't measure a man of that time with the moral standards of today. If she were a paid servant instead of a slave there would be no video. But a servant is really a wage slave. How many rich men bed down servant girls?

  • @dsl32
    @dsl32 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We hold thease truths to be self evident that all men are created equal.

  • @TheKubelman
    @TheKubelman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "His wife was an accompanied pianist." Perhaps the functional illiterates who wrote this are more accomplished. sheesh

    • @YouzTube99
      @YouzTube99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mark Zewalk:
      You beat me to it. "Sheesh" indeed.
      What I find odd is that the same guy narrates all the vids on the 'Did You Know ?' channel and seems relatively intelligent but didn't correct that.

    • @calvinsmith2451
      @calvinsmith2451 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      "That would be "accomplished"...which indeed she was. "Functional illiterates"? Indeed.

  • @ghostmost2614
    @ghostmost2614 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    D Adams
    Fact, the Free Negro population (to use the contemporary term for them) in the South before the Civil War actually outnumbered that in the North by a substantial margin. Of the 488,070 free African-American people in the United States in 1860 - 11 percent of the total black population - according to the federal census, some 35,766 more lived in the slave-holding South than in the North, as analyzed in Ira Berlin's magisterial study, Slaves Without Masters, and more recently in Eva Sheppard Wolf's graceful book Race and Liberty in the New Nation: Emancipation in Virginia From the Revolution to Nat Turner's Rebellion. Just as remarkably, the vast majority of these free Southern black people stayed put in the Confederate states even during the Civil War.

  • @bconsilio3764
    @bconsilio3764 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The room? How was it found? More than 1picture! We know about Sally. Misleading!

    • @samualwhittemore228
      @samualwhittemore228 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      b Consilio a propaganda piece. Ughh

    • @pastelitasdelflan
      @pastelitasdelflan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The room has always been open, along with the rest of the house. There is nothing secret about it. The interesting part of the story is that there is now evidence connecting it directly to Sally Hemings.

  • @popsyturvee5112
    @popsyturvee5112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mistress? More like property.

  • @sykes758
    @sykes758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Only one of Sally's children had descendants that had Jefferson DNA. Witnesses stated that Thomas's younger brother had been seen leaving Sally's quarters at night and early morning. Jefferson freed slaves and never hunted runaways, that seemed capable of surviving in the white world , outside of Monticello. He never wrote of Sally or her children in records or elsewhere. He did not free Sally, but sold her into Slavery. It's doubtful he would have done that to his paramour and mother of his children. He denied the story and the only claimed offspring was born when Jefferson was 65. The story surfaced again to give Bill Clinton, a one of the boys look.

    • @buckleybuckley70
      @buckleybuckley70 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      winston smith I completely believe that last line about it being to help out good ole perv Clinton

  • @joyceelliott3606
    @joyceelliott3606 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A nice story looking into the past how people lived

  • @mrbiscuits915
    @mrbiscuits915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Click bait, no secret room to see here, just endless dribble

  • @leawade9664
    @leawade9664 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve done a lot of genealogy research on Thomas Jefferson who’s in my family tree. I found a lot of info on the Sally Hemings scandal. The DNA testing was done on his brother or uncle to determine the Jefferson connection to Sally. I’ve read many family letters between his daughters & cousins about the scandal their father suffered at the hands of the press! In these letters, his girls were frustrated with his refusal to come out with the truth. The truth was, Jefferson’s boyhood best friend, Dabney Carr & Thomas made a pact that whichever died first, the other would bury him under an oak tree on Monticello hill where they used to sit & do their schoolwork together. When Dabney grew up, he married Thomas’ sister, Martha. Thomas & Dabney remained close friends until Dabney died in 1773. Thomas buried Dabney under that oak tree on Monticello hill, as promised. Dabney’s son, Peter was known to be the father of Sally Hemings children by family members. Peter of course, was Thomas’ nephew & carried the Jefferson DNA from his mother. He was written out of relatives wills, a frequent topic in family letters for his “dallyings” & frequently shunned for not stepping up with the truth to defend his uncle’s reputation. Thomas Jefferson was so bereft at the death of his beloved wife that he nearly lost his mind & was inconsolable for months. I find it hard to believe he fathered children with his wife’s 1/2 sister slave. It would’ve been out of character for him. Also, he refused to defend himself publicly because to do so would bring shame to his widowed sister, her family & the memory of his best friend, Dabney & the memory of his beloved wife. He kept silent even though his own daughters begged him to publicly expose Peter Carr. This chivalrous behavior was more in keeping with his character. I believe Peter to be the culprit. The experts have familial DNA which of course Peter carried. Genealogists have letters, wills, newspapers & Thomas Jefferson’s own constant character to defend him.

    • @loriminnesota
      @loriminnesota ปีที่แล้ว

      'In the second half of the 20th century, the historian Winthrop Jordan added new fuel to the fire, arguing in a 1968 book that Sally Hemings became pregnant only when Jefferson was in residence at Monticello. This fact was significant, as he was away fully two-thirds of the time. Jordan’s work sparked a new, more critical phase of Jefferson scholarship in which sought to reconcile Jefferson’s reputation as a principled lover of democracy with his admitted racism and the negative views he expressed about African Americans (common to wealthy Virginia planters of the time).
      In November 1998, new biological evidence surfaced, in the form of a DNA analysis of samples from Field Jefferson, a living descendant of Jefferson’s paternal uncle, and from Eston Hemings (born in 1808). The analysis showed a perfect match between Y-chromosomes-a match with less than one in a thousand chance of being random coincidence. The same study compared DNA between the Hemings line and descendants of Peter Carr’s family, revealing no match. Though the study established probability and not certainty (though several of Jefferson’s male relatives certainly shared that male Y-chromosome, none of them were present at Monticello nine months before each time Sally gave birth), it lent new legitimacy to Madison Hemings’ long-ago claims that Jefferson fathered Madison and his siblings.'

  • @cherjohnson8620
    @cherjohnson8620 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My take on this is SO WHAT!

    • @JRobbySh
      @JRobbySh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, so what It was common practice for English nobles to have children by servant girls , even nobles with liberal views.

  • @beatlebrad5339
    @beatlebrad5339 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well done well done :}. !!!!

  • @anonymike8280
    @anonymike8280 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unknown. The only provable descendant of a male Jefferson was Sally's last child, a son, He was born when Thomas was in his mid-60's and known the be suffering from severe prostate symptoms. These almost certainly made him impotent, but probably did not preclude ejaculation. Little doubt Thomas had relations with Sally, but the parentage of her children is legally and biologically unknown. Jefferson could be exhumed and some identifiable DNA could be recovered. Possibly this could show some unique genetic marker he had that his male relatives did not inherit, and this could be found in the Hemings descendants. I think the study should be done, but it is up to the private volition of his living kin to do this. Apparently they do not want to. Thomas was inconsistent in many ways. He wanted to follow in Washington's footsteps and free his chattel upon his death. But he couldn't because he died in debt after living his last years on the equity of his farm maintaining a costly salon lifestyle. He philosophically opposed Black African Chattel Slavery but never firmly called for a plan for its eventual abolition. He argued that blacks and whites would have to remain legally and geographically seperated following the demise of the institution, but that didn't stop him from having a relationship with a biracial mistress. Or do we call her a common-law wife? He idealized the yeoman farmer, the free farmer who worked his own land with his own and his family's labor, and hired free labor if needed. Yet he lived from birth to death on a slave plantation, always provided for by domestic servants who were chattel slaves. After all of this, we don't know what relationship existed between Thomas and Sally. If I was writing a novel, I would have Thomas by his middle years a weary of foibles and vanity of the white women of the planter aristocracy, even if he never said anything in his letters, other writings or remembered conversations.

    • @balboro2854
      @balboro2854 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would you have little doubt that Jefferson had relations with Sally Hemings? Where's the evidence? Have you seen first-hand accounts of people saying they saw him coming out of her room, or her out of his? Any letters found? Did anyone see signs of intimacy pass between them? Did he ever take her with him when he went to Philadelphia? Annapolis? Washington?

    • @reneenayfabnaynay5679
      @reneenayfabnaynay5679 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bal Boro, she slept right next to his room! Figure it out!

    • @loriminnesota
      @loriminnesota ปีที่แล้ว

      In the second half of the 20th century, the historian Winthrop Jordan added new fuel to the fire, arguing in a 1968 book that Sally Hemings became pregnant only when Jefferson was in residence at Monticello. This fact was significant, as he was away fully two-thirds of the time. Jordan’s work sparked a new, more critical phase of Jefferson scholarship in which sought to reconcile Jefferson’s reputation as a principled lover of democracy with his admitted racism and the negative views he expressed about African Americans (common to wealthy Virginia planters of the time).
      In November 1998, new biological evidence surfaced, in the form of a DNA analysis of samples from Field Jefferson, a living descendant of Jefferson’s paternal uncle, and from Eston Hemings (born in 1808). The analysis showed a perfect match between Y-chromosomes-a match with less than one in a thousand chance of being random coincidence. The same study compared DNA between the Hemings line and descendants of Peter Carr’s family, revealing no match. Though the study established probability and not certainty (though several of Jefferson’s male relatives certainly shared that male Y-chromosome, none of them were present at Monticello nine months before each time Sally gave birth), it lent new legitimacy to Madison Hemings’ long-ago claims that Jefferson fathered Madison and his siblings.

    • @anonymike8280
      @anonymike8280 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loriminnesota No such thing as a "perfect" match. Either there is a match or there is no match. The argument has a lot of persuasion to it, but the addition of some superlative does not add to the weight of it.
      Eston Hemings is the only Sally Hemings male child with patrilineal descendants through the present day. An autosomal DNA test might close the case, but the Jefferson family refuses to participate.
      I write fiction. If I was going to do a story about Sally and Thomas, I would have him disaffected with white women and not wishing another relationship with one. I would have him see white women as variously frivolous, overbearing, frigid, emotionally cold
      . Then there was the issue of class within the white race itself. If Jefferson was disaffected with the women of his own class within own race, maybe he thought that taking up with a woman of another race might be the way out an the alternative to lifetime of cold nights.
      Not like it doesn't happen today. Right? How many people today in America, men and women both, meet their need for companionship in an interracial relationship? The difference is, people today don't need to keep it secret.

  • @nancyreece969
    @nancyreece969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is the house of Thomas Jefferson still standing by any chance?? I would love to tour it.☺️

    • @charlottebuchanan3193
      @charlottebuchanan3193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course it is. Its Monticelli in Charlottesville VA. Its beautiful.

    • @miriamhavard7621
      @miriamhavard7621 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. They have tours regularly.

  • @imlistening1137
    @imlistening1137 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't remember who did this show, but a group looked into this and found evidence that it was actually Jefferson's brother, who was known to party with the slaves.

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ruled out by dna test. Keep up.

    • @imlistening1137
      @imlistening1137 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lolodee3528 exactly… but the dna showed it could have been him, or his brother. Keep up yer self…

  • @bequiet4636
    @bequiet4636 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Romance? She was a slave, there is no consent! She had no choice, there is nothing romantic about it!

    • @charlottebuchanan3193
      @charlottebuchanan3193 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sne actually wasnt a slave and how do you KNOW there was no consent???

  • @phyllisstevens4839
    @phyllisstevens4839 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This whole story the way it is told is a crock of doo doo. This story reads as a love story. it is any thing but.

  • @jimellison777
    @jimellison777 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVED IT................

  • @trixeylabelle8801
    @trixeylabelle8801 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Would of liked to have seen more of The secret room? infact would of liked to have actually seen The secret room ? A photo of workers 6·30 followed be photo of a fireplace, what's all that about? But thankyou anyhow cause you are brilliant at telling the history of things you put on for us,

    • @ghostcityshelton9378
      @ghostcityshelton9378 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trixey Labelle Go to see the room at: Daily-Tube (video) Archaelogists find Sally Hemings room at Monticello.

    • @trixeylabelle8801
      @trixeylabelle8801 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      GhostCity Shelton
      Thanks for letting me know that, I'll go check it out there.

    • @MrWltrvght
      @MrWltrvght 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      She was his slave romance i don't think so.

  • @EndorphikaMorphika
    @EndorphikaMorphika 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I looked this up because I’m headed to Monticello today !

  • @andreadejarnette6733
    @andreadejarnette6733 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah...get to the secret room...didn't click so I could hear about his mistress. THUMBS DOWN. PERIOD.

  • @Lady-br3zy
    @Lady-br3zy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty sure she did not know at 15 y/o she did not know she could live a free life.

    • @GFSLombardo
      @GFSLombardo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sally Hemings knew she (and her brother), a chef, could have claimed their freedom when they lived with Jefferson in Paris. By that time slavery was illegal in France. Historians report that Jefferson "persuaded " Sally to return with him to the USA as his slave on HER condition that any children she had with him would eventiually be freed. After Jefferson's death he did free the surviving children she had with him. Tragically, all the rest of Jefferson's slaves were sold to pay off his large debts. Suggest you read "The Hemingses of Monticello" by Annette Gordon Reed.

  • @032319581
    @032319581 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There is documentation that some of Sally's children are by another Jefferson male, but who cares? She was described to have looked like her half sister and was attractive. He was young and if they loved one another, who cares?

    • @JRobbySh
      @JRobbySh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, except that Jefferson was middle-aged. Maybe a relation with Sally was his compromise on his promise to his dying wife not to remarry. Sally would then have been a true concubine, a kind of second class-wife.

    • @laurafernandez8281
      @laurafernandez8281 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He wasn't young when the relationship happened. His wife's been died for years before anything happened.

    • @georgemckenzie1824
      @georgemckenzie1824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      janine harrison- who cares that he raped her? who cares that the man who has the most statues, institution and places named after him was a pedophile?...she was only 12 when she first got pregnant

    • @billyb34usa
      @billyb34usa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      loved? she had no choice in the affair.

    • @jamesnewman5341
      @jamesnewman5341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgemckenzie1824 So he is now convicted of rape and pedophilia. I missed the trial, and I'm kind of concerned about the honor of the JUDGE. So put some papers out here to back up your JUDGESHIP.

  • @elton2964
    @elton2964 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    He didn’t know how to say No to this

  • @GGMathi69
    @GGMathi69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    WOW. Amazing video! I didn't knew about this story😱😱😱😱

    • @buckleybuckley70
      @buckleybuckley70 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flower Child I don’t think they are. People don’t know history as they should & now they teach history the way they want too anyways.....imo

    • @jimmcwilliams7306
      @jimmcwilliams7306 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DA Nightcore

    • @GGMathi69
      @GGMathi69 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim McWilliams yeah?

    • @jamesoglesby2601
      @jamesoglesby2601 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I knew of this many years ago

  • @Cyletab
    @Cyletab 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And why exactly are we ASTOUNDED?Really?

  • @pedromeza2398
    @pedromeza2398 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good report of what has been know for years, although DNA beat you.

    • @liktom
      @liktom 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but now they say they can't be 100% sure that it was him but could be his cousin who ran the household when he was gone. It's reported that his cousin spent many hours with Sally and her children. As we were not around in this time period no one knows anything for certainty what actually went on.

  • @tammielynne4089
    @tammielynne4089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The slaves where an inherit ; also at time , you where not allow to free or sale an inherit ; slave.

  • @AmericanActionReport
    @AmericanActionReport 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The name wasn't Saley; it was Sally. It's not true that no one knows how Sally Hemings looked; her photo is on the Internet. Only three of Sally's six children had Jefferson male DNA markers; one of the three was conceived in Virginia, while Jefferson was in Paris. Randolph Jefferson was the more likely suspect as father. Your video didn't reveal anything "astounding;" that was just click bait. You made so many historical and other errors in your video that the rest of the video is untrustworthy. Thumbs down.

    • @pastelitasdelflan
      @pastelitasdelflan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      These comments are fairy-tale nonsense. There is no "photo" of a woman who died 4 years before the invention of photography. And you are deliberately deceptive with your comment that "only three children had Jefferson male DNA markers". Hemings had 6 children: 2 girls died in infancy; sons Beverly and Madison had no descendants; which leaves only 2 lines of descendants to test. You make it sound like the researchers deliberately ignored evidence from other descendants; they did not.
      As for the third test, it was of the descendants of Thomas Woodson, long rumored to be the first Jefferson child, supposedly conceived in Paris. Notably, those DNA tests came back negative. So was there a child conceived in Paris? There is NO RECORD of this supposed "first child", who was long said to have been born at Monticello. The story comes from other Hemings children who, decades later, told the story of a boy who died in infancy. Well, that certainly wasn't Thomas Woodson, although it does leave open the possibility of a first child. It is strange, though, that evidence is so slim, given that every other Hemings child is carefully recorded, including the daughters who died in infancy.
      So, now tell me which of the other Hemings children--all born after 1795--were conceived while Jefferson was in Paris between 1784 - 1789? Was this a miraculous 4-years-long pregnancy? Or do you just go around posting a lot of lies you made up on a random afternoon?

    • @coolbeans-vb2ex
      @coolbeans-vb2ex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh the TROLLS be ah TROLLING!!!!

    • @JRobbySh
      @JRobbySh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have read in several places that Sally resembled Jefferson's wife.

    • @melvawages7143
      @melvawages7143 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sally went to Paris at age 14 so she was with Jefferson when she conceived a child at age 16 in Paris but that child died in infancy. Randolph Jefferson was his uncle whose descendant's DNA they tested. Perhaps you mean Peter Jefferson his brother?

    • @katjawieczorekkoenings6732
      @katjawieczorekkoenings6732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do we know the DNA from all 6 children? Did all six continue to have descendants or were some graves dig up? I'm being serious. I studied History in college but have been away from it since '94 when I switched and went into medical field. Do you know of a good book about Jefferson AND his descendants??

  • @shaelovebeyonce144
    @shaelovebeyonce144 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This place is probably crazily haunted

  • @eliedgecomb4903
    @eliedgecomb4903 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Consent cannot exist when one person owns another. The little apologies and euphemisms used in the narration remind me of the tour of the estate. It over states his commitment to equality and rushes over the reality of slavery. It is white privilege and should be corrected.

    • @pastelitasdelflan
      @pastelitasdelflan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have been to Monticello recently and they did *not* rush over slavery or the Hemings story. The museum at the start of the tour has a thorough exhibit on the subject, and the curators are currently working on exhibits that directly address the life of the slaves.
      "Consent" is indeed a problem when discussing the issue of slaves who became mistresses of their masters. But while it's easy to imagine Jefferson taking advantage of Hemings, I'm afraid it's equally easy to imaging her getting back at her half-sister for a lifetime of injustice. To me, the most shocking part of the story is that Martha Jefferson owned her half-sister, and sent her to live under the floor, far away from the nice life shared by the rest of the family.

    • @cynthiapittman452
      @cynthiapittman452 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eli Edgecomb I wasn't there!!

    • @mzmissy9591
      @mzmissy9591 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rgt... Raped her I think she was a child.. Teen.. Smh

    • @lightyagami3492
      @lightyagami3492 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i dont know much about 18-19th century law in that regard so you cant really say that for sure

    • @barrysorento3572
      @barrysorento3572 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Men desire beautifal women, women desire power men. Look at Trump's wife. Why did Jefferson allow the children to live if he raped her? He even took her to Paris with him. Without slavery there wouldnt be black people here. Im glad blacks are here. Why do you have against blacks?

  • @indo8147
    @indo8147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sad case of rape and salvary

  • @CSAcitizen
    @CSAcitizen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wrong - DNA cleared them all of being related to Jefferson !

    • @Trissa1865
      @Trissa1865 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CSAcitizen Feather Lies, lies. Lies

  • @TMIDiva
    @TMIDiva 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got a problem with many of the inaccuracies here. But mostly the language. A woman who is not given the choice to refuse sex is a victim of rape. That's not really a "mistress" which is a feminization of "master". Being a slave means that you are property and have no rights to say "Gee, no thanks. Get your pervey hands off my butt". Also, it's not a "romance" when the option is sex or punishment, including the possibility of being sold away from your home and family.... Think how it would feel being a young woman (or girl) with no choice but to submit to a sweaty man that doesn't consider you to be a human? Yeah, big "romance"!