@@ji8044 Vrabel was hired by Cleveland as a consultant and personnel advisor in March, 2 months after the Titans fired him. He was due to make just over $9 million in 2024 with Tennessee, the last year of his contract, with an option year in 2025. Haven't seen any reports on what the buyout of his last year was or if the Browns contributed to that. Don't know if you consider being hired 8 weeks after being let go as a "jump", but Cleveland didn't want to wait any longer.
He was silent on the Pats when they looked alright in the beginning of the season. Butt now that theyre the worse team in football hes got plenty to say
I don’t really know what Rich’s point is here. His tone implies that it’s incorrect to blame the massive downturn on defense on Mayo, but nothing Bill said was untrue. If it’s not his fault, who’s is it? Someone who reports to him? If we’re blaming the DC, he reports to the HC, so I don’t really understand what we’re talking about here.
Both Mayo and Belichick kinda have a point. Belichick did not leave him with a great roster, on either side of the ball. However, Bill was able to coach that group into one of the best defenses in the league. It's unreasonable to expect anyone to be as good a DC as Bill, and if New England ownership or fans didn't think the defense would take a huge step back without Bill (regardless of who his replacement was) they were delusional.
Hindsight is 20/20, but if there was any thought that the defense couldn't be as good without Bill, then it wouldn't have made sense to fire him. He whiffed on a QB after losing his OC, but still had a really good defense. Like Rich said, hard to be a good coach without a QB. Good luck to the Mayo and the Pats moving forward but it looks like a mistake right now.
To use BB's own words, every year it's a different team. You can bring back 95% of the players but you'll still have a different team than last year. Why? It's not just the players. It's the coaches. It's the player's mindsets. It's the upper management. It's the nutritionists. Etc. Having said that I know BB's plethora of coaching acumen could have turned at least one of the losses this year into a win. It wouldn't have turned the team into a playoff team, but it would've won them a few more overall. Mayo is a new HC with an experienced but not outstanding staff, and a team learning a new system while in rebuild mode. If anyone expected them to be world beaters are sorely mistaken.
@@djturner-smith6380 It makes sense to fire him in the long term if you think he was bad GM. Sure the defense may take a step back in the short term, but in the long term a better GM will build a more talented roster instead of just coaching an average defense into a great one and having a bottom 5 offense.
BB has been "ducking it" all year. Refused to talk about the Patriots when they won week 1 and refused to talk about Drake Maye. But he loves getting to trash the team. I get it, the team sucks right now. But it sucked under Bill for the last 2 years too
Rich is spot on with Coaches looking bad when they don't have a QB. Heck, the Steelers fanbase was talking about getting rid of Tomlin last year because of this same thing IMO
Patriots: "Let's fire the coach who has given us six Super Bowl rings, 17 AFC East titles, and one of the best defenses in the NFL for the last 24 years. What could go wrong?"
@@RyanM-d4m and this year they are on track to go 2-15. Last year their defense was top three, this year it’s “soft”, with the only change being the coach, and a significant upgrade at QB.
@@quinnjackson9252 Barmore top 10 dt and is out for the season, Judon got traded (Judon is 32 years old and washed) peppers one of the best run stuffers at safety isn’t playing right now, and jawhaun bentley their defensive captain is also out for the rest of the season. Last year the patriots defense was healthy for most of the season. Blaming Mayo solely for the defense being bad is a stupid argument when you consider that 3 defensive captains who are good at stopping the run are out for the year.
@@RyanM-d4m Last year, the Buffalo Bills were down to their fifth and sixth string cornerbacks, and sixth and seventh string linebackers starting the game. The Bills starting defensive play caller through the playoffs was a retired player who they had to beg to come out of retirement, with over over half of their entire teams salary cap being out for the season on the defensive side of the ball alone. They had a good coach who was capable of coaching those guys up into a unit that, despite being held together with duct tape and super glue, was capable of making big plays, bringing Kansas City down to the wire, where they only lost due to a missed field goal. Bill was a fantastic coach, and while I do not solely blame Mayo, there is no doubt in my mind that Bill was an absolute defensive coaching genius. He could take nobodies and make them into stars, utilizing their unrecognized talents. That is something that he and McDermott actually have in common. My point was also less about it being Mayo's fault, and more about Belichick just being a better coach who would've handled the injuries better. Belichick did pretty well with a quarterback-less team for a few years there, and booting him was a huge gift to the rest of the division.
Having lived in Boston, I'm not at all surprised by the racist and anti-Semitic comments all over this board. Exactly how stupid would you have to be to insist that in a league where 3/4 of the players are black, blacks don't understand the game?
Mayo is going to lose the support of the majority of the fan base if he does not correct the bleeding on the defense. The fans know Mayo has no formal coaching experience but we were also told Mayo was Belichick's defacto defensive coordinator the past few seasons and now that Belichick is defending the guys who were staut against the run last year whom Mayo is saying are this year, Mayo, if he is right, has to correct no 7:40 w or he will lose creditability with the fan base and a huge amount of pressure will be on Kraft to let Mayo go.
lol chris brockman is about to cried when talking about the patriot these episode .lol mayo should not throw dirt around when bill is now temporary part of sport the media, cause if turn into a mud fight between a mayo and bill, most of the fan base will side with bill.
I suspect that this whole clause in Mayo's contract to succeed as head coach was just thrown in to get him to agree to less money or something like that. They likely assumed at the time that Bill wasn't going anywhere so putting such a clause in an assistant coach's contract was effectively meaningless. Then when they parted ways with Belichick, Mayo brought up the clause and they realized they messed up and would have to adhere to it or pay him out. But then they also probably realized that going with an inexperienced coach would be a great way to tank for a good draft position, without said coach being aware that they were actually tanking, so they went forward with it.
Bill conveniently leaves out Barmore Bentley and Peppers being inactive as to why they can’t stop the run😂 but brings up two guys he basically red shirted last year😂
I mean sure, getting rid of Tom Brady as your quarterback was the worst thing belichick could have done. But I feel he learned that lesson, and for the fact of kraft to fire belichick for doing that is another mistake on the Patriots. I don't dislike mayo, but you're talking about we fired the greatest quarterback and then right after that we fired the greatest coach. And now we're trying to straighten out our struggle. That shows you what went wrong right from the get-go. So if you want to blame anybody blame the fans for allowing kraft to fire Brady and then belichick!
the thirds mistake is not fucking hired or appointing a gm after firing HC. why are Kraft being cheap by not getting the best gm or head of scouting to appoint as gm and pay them top money. does he know GM and coach do not count again the cap
According to Edelman, bill was always partial to the defense. Mayo did the right thing by saying what he said because it’s TRUE. No upside to lying and saying it’s all sunshine and roses.
A lot of the same things were said about Udoka when he started poorly too. The circs of his exit notwithstanding, he proved many of us wrong by the end of that run. Belichick himself went 5 -11 his first year, and I'd bet a young Brockman wanted his head then too. Let's give Mayo a shot. I like this team, and I think they can pull this together. We've seen weirder sh*t happen around here. How many cinderella stories does Boston sports history hold?? Edelman said it best: "Gonna be a helluva story!".
Doesn't matter if it's the same guys as last year. If they aren't playing as hard call them out. But he should have done it in the locker room not to the press.
Mayor may be in over his head still but Bill is smoking some good stuff if he thinks he's in a place to criticize the coaching staff after his last couple years.
Let's be honest. It's not the same guys. Judon is gone and he was legit the best player on the team last year. Peppers is gone (police trouble.) Bentley is injured. Barmore is injured. That's basically the four best players on the Pats defense last year.
Whilst what Bill is saying is right, he's also forgetting to mention No Christian Barmore, No Bentley and no Peppers, all big players regarding the run, all out of action. And if you want to go a step further no Larry Guy - no longer on the team. That being said I think the time was right for Bill and his regime to go, failure of Kraft was supplanting him with people who were part of that failing regime (Wolf and Mayo). Mayo is in over his head, didn't think he was the right man for the job when it happened and the hire looks even worse now.
I was swearing at the screen all game - at our D not bothering to run to the ball to help the initial tacklers and the Jags gaining another 3, 5 or 8 yards. How is that not soft? This isn't about soft players, it's about the D being easy for the opposition to push back - even in the simple act of collision our guys are getting pushed backwards. When the jags D tackled our players our O got pushed backwards. Their D played tough, our D played soft. I'm sure the players aren't soft dudes, but as a unit I've seen a pan-full of diarrhoea with more resilience.
Cant say he doesn’t have a QB Maye is more than capable mayo was hired as a defensive HC and the defense is horrible what is the excuse they should have looked outside the building for coaching
We're all tired of Kraft's and Mayo's excuses. Implying roster problems is pathetic. They had a ton of cap space and the Patriots chose to resign almost all their own free agents (other than Judon) instead of bringing in new players. They still had more cap space left than anyone that they chose not to spend to bring in anyone. Belichick wouldn't even have done that, he never did. He always kept the players he wanted at the right price and went out and brought in players he liked from other teams. Some of the best players the Pats had were Belichick free agent signings. Bill was always looking to improve the roster every year. Kraft's new group is the one decided to just bring everyone back from a 4 win team and give most all of them healthy raises. This is all Kraft's team now, no other way to look at it.
Well you can't expect the defense to hold up for crying out loud it's the offense that is killing the defense as soon as the defense gets off the field there back on in 4 minutes.
it could be worse. They could still have BB in there completely ruining the team. I don't think I've ever seen a worse talent evaluator in the history of the league. Belichick passed on deebo and aj brown for NKEAL HARRY lmaooo
As much as I am a huge bb fan, I gotta say he’s wrong here… in the middle of this current defense we have lost 3 capt at all 3 levels.. barmore, Bentley and peppers.. all three of those doods are run thumpers.. yes its mayos job to have backups ready but they are backups for a reason.. this defense is soft for two reasons… loss of ur 3 capt, and coaches not having players ready or a scheme to help players. But the doods that played last game are soft, just like their dei coach.
But it's not the same guys... Judon for one isn't there, a few other big pieces it's not the same group. I'm not saying he should've said it but Bill's not quite correct there
Mayo is just trying to call certain players out but that’s not good. Cuz these guys were coached personally by BB the GOAT. Now that he’s come to their aid that Defense is probably gonna flat out quit in Mayo to show him the door
NE only gonna win 2-4 games this season and Mayo is not a Head Coach. The longer NE stays w him the longer they are gonna be bad. He isn’t the only problem but he is making things much worse.
Mac jones is a dreadful QB and is too SOFT to be an NFL QB! He plays scared and the defenses could smell it, like a dog smells fear. mac will be nothing more than a 2nd/3rd string bench warmer for the rest of his pitiful career!
Wow, Bill of all people wants to reference last years top ranked defense, when this coach’s MO was “last year doesn’t matter”. How convenient now to all of a sudden have relative perspective now that you’re out of the game. What good does his comments, being the former coach, do for Mayo’s locker room?? I’m convinced that nothing would make Bill happier than full anarchy at 1 Patriot Place.
Bill's offense has sucked for years. I didn't see Brady saying anything like that after he left 😂 Every other player Bill drafted was garbage. He could pick a db but nothing else. Let me tell ya another thing, NOBODY brought Mike in. Vrabel has a record of .45 or something. He's not much better than Bill was without Brady
True, they had a bunch of quick possesions last year too, but they ran the ball way better than they have so far this year. A three and out after a minute and thirty seconds is not the same as three to five minutes
When will we stop accepting talking heads trying to convince us was and is are the same thing. Yes Bill, we get it, they "were" tough when you coached (was) them. But currently, in the now (is) they're playing soft af. Opening your wrists for how they used to play benefits absolutely no one. Jesus Christ can we get any fucking accountability??? Who would have thought, sportscasters, are soft
Mayo is the one looking soft every week
A Bill Belichick coordinator turns out to be a bad head coach when they get their chance? Gosh, haven’t seen that before.
There's a reason why nobody jumped on the chance to hire Mike Vrabel.
Bill once said this of his own coaches that they make better soldiers then leaders!
I maintain that josh mcdaniels was sent as an undercover agent of Belichick to sabotage the AFC West, one team at a time.
He was never a coordinator. He was LB coach and asst coordinator. Steve B called plays
@@ji8044 Vrabel was hired by Cleveland as a consultant and personnel advisor in March, 2 months after the Titans fired him. He was due to make just over $9 million in 2024 with Tennessee, the last year of his contract, with an option year in 2025. Haven't seen any reports on what the buyout of his last year was or if the Browns contributed to that. Don't know if you consider being hired 8 weeks after being let go as a "jump", but Cleveland didn't want to wait any longer.
I love this new no-filter outspoken BB.
He was silent on the Pats when they looked alright in the beginning of the season. Butt now that theyre the worse team in football hes got plenty to say
Very fortunate for him that his buddies Patricia and McDaniels are far from a sideline this year
@@mikemartins449carolina is still by far the worst team in the NFL
@@mikemartins449 nah Carolina is def the worst they have no QB. Pats at least have that
I've never heard BB so animated.😂
All I ever heard was mumbling.
@@AJFar-tm7dn We're on to Cincinnati
Dudes getting more trim than he’s ever had from a 23 year old . Life is good .
@@brumfibaWe're on to Dallas
Bill needed a vacation
His flaming out was destiny. He’s no NFL head coach, his hiring was an unearned gift.
Wow🤣
Sounds like Bill was saying the coaches were not doing their job!
He calls them soft, I can only imagine what the players say about him behind his back
Mayo is over his head
MAYO NEEDS TO BE GONE. He can finish the season to guarantee a 1st overall pick but after that he needs to be gone from this organization
Kraft jumped the gun ... a thorough coaching search and interview was needed. Huge mistake.
DEI!
@@johnsmith-ug5tpdo you always scream "I'm racist" in public?
@@THG-3141 truth hurts
@@SouL1Jacker that he's racist? Yeah, I'm sure it does.
@@THG-3141 Do you ever get tired of being a crying victim?
Mayo is a complete mess.
Mayo is not the guy . Pats fan for over 50 years .
I don’t really know what Rich’s point is here. His tone implies that it’s incorrect to blame the massive downturn on defense on Mayo, but nothing Bill said was untrue.
If it’s not his fault, who’s is it? Someone who reports to him? If we’re blaming the DC, he reports to the HC, so I don’t really understand what we’re talking about here.
Both Mayo and Belichick kinda have a point. Belichick did not leave him with a great roster, on either side of the ball. However, Bill was able to coach that group into one of the best defenses in the league. It's unreasonable to expect anyone to be as good a DC as Bill, and if New England ownership or fans didn't think the defense would take a huge step back without Bill (regardless of who his replacement was) they were delusional.
If it was such a bad roster, why did they renew many of those contracts?
Hindsight is 20/20, but if there was any thought that the defense couldn't be as good without Bill, then it wouldn't have made sense to fire him. He whiffed on a QB after losing his OC, but still had a really good defense. Like Rich said, hard to be a good coach without a QB. Good luck to the Mayo and the Pats moving forward but it looks like a mistake right now.
To use BB's own words, every year it's a different team. You can bring back 95% of the players but you'll still have a different team than last year. Why? It's not just the players. It's the coaches. It's the player's mindsets. It's the upper management. It's the nutritionists. Etc.
Having said that I know BB's plethora of coaching acumen could have turned at least one of the losses this year into a win. It wouldn't have turned the team into a playoff team, but it would've won them a few more overall.
Mayo is a new HC with an experienced but not outstanding staff, and a team learning a new system while in rebuild mode. If anyone expected them to be world beaters are sorely mistaken.
@@TsepeteThat's on the GM not the coach
@@djturner-smith6380 It makes sense to fire him in the long term if you think he was bad GM. Sure the defense may take a step back in the short term, but in the long term a better GM will build a more talented roster instead of just coaching an average defense into a great one and having a bottom 5 offense.
Mayo not ready for prime time.
BB has been "ducking it" all year. Refused to talk about the Patriots when they won week 1 and refused to talk about Drake Maye. But he loves getting to trash the team. I get it, the team sucks right now. But it sucked under Bill for the last 2 years too
Pats need to fire Mayp and bring in Vrabel
Rich is spot on with Coaches looking bad when they don't have a QB. Heck, the Steelers fanbase was talking about getting rid of Tomlin last year because of this same thing IMO
Tomlin has accomplished nothing without Bill Cower's players
No barmore or Bentley though, so will be weaker against the run for sure
Or Peppers or Judon
Yes yes. But good coaching would get them ready. Mayo is a bullshitter
one word to lose a team and thats soft theyre gonna quit on him now.
Well they're 1-6, so . . .
Yes because people will always live up to your expectations of them! Never fails!
Patriots: "Let's fire the coach who has given us six Super Bowl rings, 17 AFC East titles, and one of the best defenses in the NFL for the last 24 years. What could go wrong?"
The Pats went 4-13 with Bill last year
@@RyanM-d4m and this year they are on track to go 2-15. Last year their defense was top three, this year it’s “soft”, with the only change being the coach, and a significant upgrade at QB.
@@quinnjackson9252 Barmore top 10 dt and is out for the season, Judon got traded (Judon is 32 years old and washed) peppers one of the best run stuffers at safety isn’t playing right now, and jawhaun bentley their defensive captain is also out for the rest of the season. Last year the patriots defense was healthy for most of the season. Blaming Mayo solely for the defense being bad is a stupid argument when you consider that 3 defensive captains who are good at stopping the run are out for the year.
@@RyanM-d4m Last year, the Buffalo Bills were down to their fifth and sixth string cornerbacks, and sixth and seventh string linebackers starting the game. The Bills starting defensive play caller through the playoffs was a retired player who they had to beg to come out of retirement, with over over half of their entire teams salary cap being out for the season on the defensive side of the ball alone. They had a good coach who was capable of coaching those guys up into a unit that, despite being held together with duct tape and super glue, was capable of making big plays, bringing Kansas City down to the wire, where they only lost due to a missed field goal. Bill was a fantastic coach, and while I do not solely blame Mayo, there is no doubt in my mind that Bill was an absolute defensive coaching genius. He could take nobodies and make them into stars, utilizing their unrecognized talents. That is something that he and McDermott actually have in common.
My point was also less about it being Mayo's fault, and more about Belichick just being a better coach who would've handled the injuries better. Belichick did pretty well with a quarterback-less team for a few years there, and booting him was a huge gift to the rest of the division.
Vrabel to Las Vegas. Or Brady could stick it to Goodell and hire Gruden😂😊
There isn't a big job demand for former BB assistants. O'Brien and Vrabel are the only ones who weren't tremendous losers.
Only one coach good get away with calling players soft and not losing the locker room was another Bill. Bill Parcels haha
Same old Pats. It was a great 20 year break But here we are again.
Having lived in Boston, I'm not at all surprised by the racist and anti-Semitic comments all over this board. Exactly how stupid would you have to be to insist that in a league where 3/4 of the players are black, blacks don't understand the game?
I think it's ok to say what you feel to your players but keep it in the locker room.
Mayo is going to lose the support of the majority of the fan base if he does not correct the bleeding on the defense. The fans know Mayo has no formal coaching experience but we were also told Mayo was Belichick's defacto defensive coordinator the past few seasons and now that Belichick is defending the guys who were staut against the run last year whom Mayo is saying are this year, Mayo, if he is right, has to correct no 7:40 w or he will lose creditability with the fan base and a huge amount of pressure will be on Kraft to let Mayo go.
The DC was Steve Belichick, Mayo was just an ILB coach. And it shows lol. Dude is a mess
lol chris brockman is about to cried when talking about the patriot these episode .lol mayo should not throw dirt around when bill is now temporary part of sport the media, cause if turn into a mud fight between a mayo and bill, most of the fan base will side with bill.
I suspect that this whole clause in Mayo's contract to succeed as head coach was just thrown in to get him to agree to less money or something like that. They likely assumed at the time that Bill wasn't going anywhere so putting such a clause in an assistant coach's contract was effectively meaningless. Then when they parted ways with Belichick, Mayo brought up the clause and they realized they messed up and would have to adhere to it or pay him out. But then they also probably realized that going with an inexperienced coach would be a great way to tank for a good draft position, without said coach being aware that they were actually tanking, so they went forward with it.
Bill conveniently leaves out Barmore Bentley and Peppers being inactive as to why they can’t stop the run😂 but brings up two guys he basically red shirted last year😂
Kraft is figuring out he indeed had nothing to do with winning 6 superbowls
“Players win games; coaches lose them.” - BB
Mayo got hired for one reason and we all know why...
He’s already put Bob Kraft on notice that he’ll play the race card if fired.
Stop
@@miketemple7686 No, you're just a basic racist.
@@DV-id6ditruth hurts.
I mean sure, getting rid of Tom Brady as your quarterback was the worst thing belichick could have done. But I feel he learned that lesson, and for the fact of kraft to fire belichick for doing that is another mistake on the Patriots. I don't dislike mayo, but you're talking about we fired the greatest quarterback and then right after that we fired the greatest coach. And now we're trying to straighten out our struggle. That shows you what went wrong right from the get-go. So if you want to blame anybody blame the fans for allowing kraft to fire Brady and then belichick!
Brady was offered a contract. He turned it down.
the thirds mistake is not fucking hired or appointing a gm after firing HC. why are Kraft being cheap by not getting the best gm or head of scouting to appoint as gm and pay them top money. does he know GM and coach do not count again the cap
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff I agree! 👍
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ffBecause someone has to pay for the giant lighthouse and scoreboard in the north end zone...
Mayo needs to go asap. Obviously can’t cut it. Never should have been in this position. Should have interviewed other coaches.
According to Edelman, bill was always partial to the defense. Mayo did the right thing by saying what he said because it’s TRUE. No upside to lying and saying it’s all sunshine and roses.
Comparing a baseball manager with an NFL coach is idiotic. One manages and one is perhaps the most important part of any team.
I don’t know, watch a Detroit tigers game from the last month of the season. Tell me who was the most important part of that team
I saw bill talk about it. And all I was hearing was "Miss me yet?" It wasn't a Bill problem.
Mayo was a DEI hire. He's more interested in fixing racism in the world than actually coaching.
Joe Judge. That is all
No he got the job because he schmoozed Krafts Jew friends on a trip to Isreal
Wow this is such a brain dead comment
Stop
If it bothers you that he said it, you're a little soft too
Didn't Bill Belichick have in his contract that Mayo would be guaranteed to have the head coaching position?
Football players: we the toughest dudes in the WORLD 😤
Any human ever: U R SOFT
Football Players: 😳😡😡
We were there and the offence were poor to non exsistant
A lot of the same things were said about Udoka when he started poorly too. The circs of his exit notwithstanding, he proved many of us wrong by the end of that run. Belichick himself went 5 -11 his first year, and I'd bet a young Brockman wanted his head then too. Let's give Mayo a shot. I like this team, and I think they can pull this together. We've seen weirder sh*t happen around here. How many cinderella stories does Boston sports history hold?? Edelman said it best: "Gonna be a helluva story!".
Doesn't matter if it's the same guys as last year. If they aren't playing as hard call them out. But he should have done it in the locker room not to the press.
Mayor may be in over his head still but Bill is smoking some good stuff if he thinks he's in a place to criticize the coaching staff after his last couple years.
Let's be honest. It's not the same guys. Judon is gone and he was legit the best player on the team last year. Peppers is gone (police trouble.) Bentley is injured. Barmore is injured. That's basically the four best players on the Pats defense last year.
Whilst what Bill is saying is right, he's also forgetting to mention No Christian Barmore, No Bentley and no Peppers, all big players regarding the run, all out of action. And if you want to go a step further no Larry Guy - no longer on the team. That being said I think the time was right for Bill and his regime to go, failure of Kraft was supplanting him with people who were part of that failing regime (Wolf and Mayo). Mayo is in over his head, didn't think he was the right man for the job when it happened and the hire looks even worse now.
Mayo will absolutely be a 1 and done HC
Growing pains???
There was some pretty ugly blowouts last year, remember saints and cowboys losses?
Dude looks totally lost and confused on the sideline, like he doesn't know what's going on.
He sure doesn't
I was swearing at the screen all game - at our D not bothering to run to the ball to help the initial tacklers and the Jags gaining another 3, 5 or 8 yards. How is that not soft? This isn't about soft players, it's about the D being easy for the opposition to push back - even in the simple act of collision our guys are getting pushed backwards. When the jags D tackled our players our O got pushed backwards. Their D played tough, our D played soft. I'm sure the players aren't soft dudes, but as a unit I've seen a pan-full of diarrhoea with more resilience.
Soft NFL leads to soft players so what’s the big deal
It's and offensive league I'm surprise they try to interview those guys tbh
I'll take it, for love of god take some pressure of A Aron and the Jets.
Cant say he doesn’t have a QB Maye is more than capable mayo was hired as a defensive HC and the defense is horrible what is the excuse they should have looked outside the building for coaching
Snarky, petty Bill Belichick is my new favorite thing
We're all tired of Kraft's and Mayo's excuses. Implying roster problems is pathetic. They had a ton of cap space and the Patriots chose to resign almost all their own free agents (other than Judon) instead of bringing in new players. They still had more cap space left than anyone that they chose not to spend to bring in anyone. Belichick wouldn't even have done that, he never did. He always kept the players he wanted at the right price and went out and brought in players he liked from other teams. Some of the best players the Pats had were Belichick free agent signings. Bill was always looking to improve the roster every year. Kraft's new group is the one decided to just bring everyone back from a 4 win team and give most all of them healthy raises. This is all Kraft's team now, no other way to look at it.
Vrabel.
No way Kraft has the guts to fire his own, hand picked, anointed DEI hire Jerod Mayo after one year. NO WAY!!
you can be competitive and still loose, but so far, the Pats have not been competitive..
Bill could’ve had cam Newton and zeke Elliot on the same team. Ik they’re old, but for his time playing in 4 years… 7 wins wasn’t bad coming from cam…
Well you can't expect the defense to hold up for crying out loud it's the offense that is killing the defense as soon as the defense gets off the field there back on in 4 minutes.
it could be worse. They could still have BB in there completely ruining the team. I don't think I've ever seen a worse talent evaluator in the history of the league. Belichick passed on deebo and aj brown for NKEAL HARRY lmaooo
1 year recommended time for a DEI hire lol....
DEI hire
Racist comment.
As much as I am a huge bb fan, I gotta say he’s wrong here… in the middle of this current defense we have lost 3 capt at all 3 levels.. barmore, Bentley and peppers.. all three of those doods are run thumpers.. yes its mayos job to have backups ready but they are backups for a reason.. this defense is soft for two reasons… loss of ur 3 capt, and coaches not having players ready or a scheme to help players. But the doods that played last game are soft, just like their dei coach.
But it's not the same guys... Judon for one isn't there, a few other big pieces it's not the same group. I'm not saying he should've said it but Bill's not quite correct there
He's a DEI hire. With a DEI record. No surprise here.
Mayo is just trying to call certain players out but that’s not good. Cuz these guys were coached personally by BB the GOAT. Now that he’s come to their aid that Defense is probably gonna flat out quit in Mayo to show him the door
dei hire is in over their head and embarrassing themselves? no way..
showed your true intentions with those first two words lmao
BB❤GOAT💯
I'm suprised Rich & his mini me brockman bought Belichick knee pads ...😂
NE only gonna win 2-4 games this season and Mayo is not a Head Coach. The longer NE stays w him the longer they are gonna be bad. He isn’t the only problem but he is making things much worse.
Welcome to planet earth Boston.
We've been on planet earth for half a decade now, seems like everyone but the fans are stuck in the past.
Dei hire lets be honest
Quit playing the coward. Just say you're a bigot. Why code word your language
He’ll be gone before the season is over
Mac jones is a dreadful QB and is too SOFT to be an NFL QB! He plays scared and the defenses could smell it, like a dog smells fear. mac will be nothing more than a 2nd/3rd string bench warmer for the rest of his pitiful career!
Mac Jones doesn't play for the Patriots, superfan...
Wow, Bill of all people wants to reference last years top ranked defense, when this coach’s MO was “last year doesn’t matter”. How convenient now to all of a sudden have relative perspective now that you’re out of the game. What good does his comments, being the former coach, do for Mayo’s locker room?? I’m convinced that nothing would make Bill happier than full anarchy at 1 Patriot Place.
Bill always said do your job. He is on TV now and he is doing just that, his job. Why is that hard to understand?
well he not a coach anymore
Mayo is 100%....they're soft and they played like it, watch the tape...
Not soft. Just useless.
If you mean the coaches then yes
He’s DEI hire. What do you expect.
Bill's offense has sucked for years. I didn't see Brady saying anything like that after he left 😂
Every other player Bill drafted was garbage. He could pick a db but nothing else.
Let me tell ya another thing, NOBODY brought Mike in. Vrabel has a record of .45 or something. He's not much better than Bill was without Brady
True, they had a bunch of quick possesions last year too, but they ran the ball way better than they have so far this year. A three and out after a minute and thirty seconds is not the same as three to five minutes
When will we stop accepting talking heads trying to convince us was and is are the same thing. Yes Bill, we get it, they "were" tough when you coached (was) them. But currently, in the now (is) they're playing soft af. Opening your wrists for how they used to play benefits absolutely no one. Jesus Christ can we get any fucking accountability??? Who would have thought, sportscasters, are soft
DEI hire