Just wanted to say thank you for not using bad words in your videos. Unlike other channels, I am able to watch your training videos with my sons and do not have to worry.
@@taylormartin4346 There are many channels filled with profanity already, where I really wished I could watch with my kids and not hear any of that. I spent 23 years around guys who can't seem to get through a sentence without extreme forms of vulgarity, and it never sounded professional. It is a gem when you find content like this that is free of it.
@@19840bmaybe it’s your attention span because they went into great detail about each weapon before the test that made the results matter and better understood.
Is it? As a civilian are you more likely to be clearing rooms at close quarters, or are you more likely to be defending your land/street/city block at 100+ yards out?
@@namniag I feel comfortable taking shots with an eotech mag or no mag to 250-300. I love precision rifles, but I just don’t see myself grabbing a scoped AR15 for a majority of situations.
The point of the GPR is to cover most basis in your Area and being decent at most things. This allows funds to be used for gear, ammo, homesteading. Of course after all that build yourself a SPR.
@@PistonDrivenGun Can I ask where the first place was where you heard this term, GPR? I'm trying to pinpoint it because it was never a thing before, and now I see it repeatedly.
Brass Facts was the first guy I heard use it. I think everyone just got tired of the term "recce rifle", plus it's more specific for what most people are using it for, not necessarily recce.
@@kerndawg8877 The origin of the modern free-floated scoped carbine came from Recce Troops in SFOD-D in the early 1990s. That's where the Snipers were, since Snipers conduct point TGT Recce (called Area Recon in the US) ahead of Assaulters hitting a TGT. The Dam Neck guys saw those carbines and had their armorers build similar variants for them, and by that time, the M4A1 had gone into production (1994), so both JSOC Recce elements were using M4 uppers with scope riser bases and rings with different optics, along with KAC CF tubes, Aluminum FF tubes, and eventually the KAC FF RAS for Dam Neck and KAC MRE for The Unit. CAG was using Japanese 1.5-4.5 Microdot LPVOs before S&B made the Short Dot for them. Dam Neck was using ACOGs on earlier guns, and then the NF 2.5-10x24 on the FF RAS 15.1" barrel carbines. But that's where the "Recce" term came from.
@@kerndawg8877 Not including the original Colt 655 and 656 Light Sniper Rifles from the Vietnam era, the use of optics-equipped, and later free-floated carbines was in SFOD-D Recce Troops, where the Snipers are. Some of them had the armorers build them free-floated 723s originally, with FSP pocket cuts and aluminum tubes, then the KAC SR-25 tubes with AR-15 barrel nuts. Optics were either Aimpoints or 1.5-4.5x Japanese Microdots on risers and rings with shaved uppers or carry handles with scope rails in the channel. They wanted a light sniper support carbine that they could also clear space with, flow through on-TGT and into position for exfil right along with the Assaulters. Dam Neck Recce Troop guys (Snipers) saw those and had their armorers build some off their Colt 727s and then the M4A1s, since the M4A1 went into production in 1994, so there was no more need to shave uppers. The KAC FF RAS and MRE were direct response products from KAC to those SMUs, with MREs mainly going to CAG and rifle-length FF RAS to Dam Neck for the SEAL Recce system. CAG basically kicked-off this whole direction for the AR-15. They got the S&B Short Dot and also used some Leupold 2.5-8x36 and other optics, user-driven as long as it held up to the shoot schedule.
I’m glad you mentioned the fact that having a higher magnification scope is a good idea you are going to get a better sight picture running a 5-25 on 14x than running a 3-14 maxed out. I had not considered that until you mentioned it here
One more thing to think about is how usable the reticle is at that magnification. I have a 4-24FFP that I run mostly at 12x but the mils are less useful at that magnification than I'd like. For this reason I have been looking at the 3-15s FFP to run at 12x still.
@@danielsullivan5287 what makes them Les useful are they harder to see at 12x the whole reason for having an ffp is that the reticle is accurate throughout the magnification range I understand if it’s being used under 10 power that the graduations may be to small to use is that what you are referring to? I would have thought at 10x and above the reticle would be useable, if not why not just get the second focal plane version and save some cash
@@googlechickenwhat he’s saying is that because ffp reticles scale with magnification they have to be designed to be not insanely huge at high magnification. This leads to *sometimes* to setups in 5-25 or 6-36 scopes where they are very hard to see at lower mags compared to other reticles. But this can be analyzed before purchase by researching the reticle size before purchasing. If it’s .09 mrad it’s always .09 mrad. A good reverse example is the athlon helps 2-12. Works awesome at low mag, very easy to see but at 12 it’s obnoxiously large for what you want to do when you’re at 12 The tangent gen2xr is a good example of a fine reticle built to be used up at high mag that becomes useless at anything less than 15x
If you're going through the trouble, time, money and effort to build a 5.56 SPR, the following will drastically increase your odds of success: 1: 223 Wylde chamber 2: 1:8 twist(it will stabilize any available practical precision projectiles that can be loaded to 2.260". Too much spin "highlights the flaws in the bullets".) 3: 5R rifling( not sure why, but it seems to slightly increase the odds of tiny groups, many theories exist) 4: Adjustable gas block(restricting gas to the min for bolt hold open keeps your gun slightly cleaner and gives you a small velocity bump of 25 to 100 FPS) 5: high quality bolt head spaced to the barrel 6: a thermal fit of the barrel to the upper( warm up the upper in the over at 200F to 30 min, then slip the barrel in) 7: tune the gun to run on the least gas possible(light recoil spring, light buffer, light BCG, see #4 for reasons) 8: rifle length or rifle length + gas system( smoother running means staying on target, spotting shots and more rapid follow up) 9: Top end magnification to 10 to 20 power, with a Christmas tree 10: free floated hand guard 11: a solid trigger 12: ALL ambi controls(so you don't have to break cheek weld to operate the rifle) My recommended companies that have allowed me to build sub MOA repeatedly X-Caliber Barrels Superlative Arms gas blocks and tubes JP precision bolts Aero Precision M4E1 upper and lowers Springco springs PA, Swampfox, or Athlon optics Monstrum PRO 7075 mount(6061 mounts have a real bad habit of bending, even the $600 ones) Midwest Industries hand guards MBT triggers I've tested 24 types of factory ammo in 4 rifles(SPR build, $400 poverty pony, FN M16A4 clone, FN M4 clone) If you have zero interest in screwing around, and just want a rock solid factory ammo choice, buy IMI Razor Core 77gr SMK OTM LR MOD-1 BROWN BOX by the pallet and send it. The green and tan IMI is NOT the same thing, not even close. BROWN BOX finished in the top 5 for all 4 rifles, for precision and velocity(other 4 were different for each rifle). You might be able to find factory ammo to beat IMI brown box, but you'll have to do quite a bit of testing.
Is a little bit cleaner action and minor fps improvements really worth to go on the low end gas flow? I would be concerned more about reliability in harsh conditions. Especially with a rifle that is meant for serious use.
@@mhhh7721 So... I'm assuming you've never built a gas gun and aren't familiar with the physics behind it. In order to cycle, you have to overcome: mass(brass, BCG and it's guts, hammer, buffer & spring), spring force(hammer & buffer spring), and friction(all of the above). In a given rifle, it takes "X" amount of force to overcome all of that. Not all rifles are the same, because the mass, friction, and springs are not the same in all rifles. So, you need just enough gas to create "X" amount of force to cycle(bolt lock back on an empty mag for this application). Much more than that, and it's a waste of energy in the system(energy provided by the gas). You can manipulate the "X" amount of force required to cycle, by messing with the mass, friction, and springs. If you reduce / lighten all of these, "X" decreases, and the opposite is also true. By using an adjustable gas block that restricts the flow through the gas tube, you are able to get just enough gas to achieve "X". Normally, most people open it 1 more click after bolt lock back to ensure reliability. This is still far less gas going down the gas tube than in a "normal" rifle. This allows us to use the energy of the gas to push the pill a little faster, because it's not being dumped into the gas tube unnecessarily. It also means a slightly cleaner receiver. The default for the average off the shelf rifle with a normal barrel, gas block, trigger group, BCG & guts, buffer and buffer spring is "gas cranked up to 11". Manufacturers do this because they want it to run with EVERYTHING. This includes the El Cheapo steel case 55gr imported ghetto blaster special doing 2500 FPS from a 16". If it didn't run with the nastiest cheapest sketchiest factory loads, the manufacturers would get a mountain of angry phone calls and horrible reviews, because the average person's understanding is not much beyond "bullets go bang". You were smart enough to ask the question, so you are more advanced than average. For non-adjustable gas blocks, I usually use a normal weight BCG & guts, might upgrade the trigger group, then play with buffer and buffer spring weights so that the force needed to cycle matches the gas. This results in smoother shooting and slightly cleaner receiver. You can tune any of the above variables to any ammo(premium hand loads or 55gr ghetto blaster), depending on what your are trying to do. The whisper pickle bois mess with this stuff on a pretty regular basis, because a can changes the equation. Anyway, sorry for the novel, hope it helps, let me know if you have questions.
The red device that Brandon pulled out and called a "Magneto speed" is a $60 barrel cooling device called the Riflekühl, for anyone else who is curious. I had to look it up since I have never heard of it or seen it before. Runs air through the barrel to cool it down. Thanks T. Rex for content like this.
@@heyhayhay247 lol its not snake oil. Chamber temp is a well documented factor in vertical shift. If you are developing handloads, it is a great way to expedite the testing process.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj that is true, but it has absolutely ZERO positive effects on barrel life, if anything it will decrease the barrel life by cooling it more quickly than it should
I left the Sniper School house in 2022. I met Lucas one day at our arms room. And The shoot in is a critical part of the testing and training we do there. I recommend like lucas said is eveyone give it a try, the results might surprise you.
@@LukeSmith117 Zeroing on the 25m zero target used to be a basic part of BRM and it was expected of any infantryman to be able to do it before qualifying. It was easier to do with the M16A1 and M4A1, harder to do with the M16A2 and M4 due to that stupid BURST mechanism. The secondary clutch disconnector for the BURST feature is still engaged while in SEMI auto, so we would typically see 2 rounds touching, with one flier on BURST mechanism A2s or M4s. A decent shooter could still keep all 3 inside the black easily at 25m though. Biggest factor is having competent leadership who knew marksmanship and provided the time and helpful coaching for new shooters to help them improve. Unfortunately, the Army really sucked at creating such a culture because of a very hurried approach to range days, with poorly-trained NCOs in marksmanship instruction, even though we had the best shooters in the world to draw experience from. They even had AMU guys come out and instruct BRM in OSUT, but the schedule was so rushed that we weren't able to focus enough on it.
@@WearilyCorrect If we had SEMI only in the line and in Recon, it would have been better. We just never used the BURST feature unless doing OPFOR, where we sometimes would take 550 gut or tripwire and arrest the BURST clutch from engaging the wheel, making it full auto. My first unit still had M16A1s, so in Recon, we used AUTO for the 1 & 2 man doing break contact drills. When we turned in the A1s and drew out A2s, it just wasn't the same trying to use BURST for that. Pretty worthless and counterproductive feature due to how it hurt marksmanship in SEMI.
@@WearilyCorrect Painfully obvious you've never used it. First, we almost never ever used it in combat. Second, because of the design of the mechanism, it's prone to failure and even if it works 100% properly, your 1st "burst" might be 1, 2 or 3 shots, depending on where you're at in the cycle. Third, technically it makes a crappy semi trigger worse, because of it's design.
The phrase WAS "jack of all trades & master of one". The change to none was a joke, an insult to throw at someone. That no one seems to know the history is just sad.
Yeah a 2-20 scope is pretty mind blowing really, that's a seriously HUGE range of magnification and opens up a ton of options for how you can use that scope.
I preach this!!!! 18" is the sweet spot for the AR! for the reasons given (terminal ballistics) and if the SHTF you are way way way more likely to want a LR rifle to keep people away from your house, family, ammo, food, etc. YOU WILL NOT BE CLEARING HOUSES AROUND YOUR TOWN WITH YOUR BUDDIES (none of which actually KNOW how to clear rooms lol) It is also rifle length gas block which shoots like a dream
@sonofgodNIV I would put the Vortex Razor LHT 4.5-22 it only weighs 21oz. I wouldnt go any heavier than 25oz u can also look into the Athlon Helos 4-20 which much cheaper. Id also keep the scope mount between 6-8oz (max) u can find some a little lighter like the Vortex, Swampfox Freedom, Aero....but the ADM w titanium QD mounts is like 6.7oz pretty hard to beat
For extending the terminal effective range, run 77 TMKs instead of the 69 or 77 SMK. Lucas said that civilians are not constrained in their gun builds, that also holds true for ammunition also. I think Black Hills are the only ones loading TMKs from the factory, but if the demand is there the supply will follow.
I'm just gonna say, you guys should try to build the SPRs as light as reasonably possible. That'll help everything other than recoil management and a tiny bit of stability. I'm confused as to why you'd have quad rails on one of these builds.
The numbers are basically meaningless between 14.5”, 18”, and 20” at distance even with 77gr. 20” 5.56 data 77gr SMK 2850fps hot load 400yds 686ft-lbs 1.8 mils drop 1 mil drift 925yds supersonic with 9.2 drop, 3.1 drift (this is really bad) 18” 5.56 77gr SMK same hot load 400yds 655ft-lbs 1.9 mils drop 1 mil drift 900yds supersonic 9.2 drop, 3 drift 14.5” 5.56 77gr SMK 2676fps same hot load 400yds 591ft-lbs 2.2 drop, 1.1 drift 850yds supersonic 9.1 mils drop, 3 mils drift Only 25yds difference between the 20” and 18”, and 75yds difference between the 20” and 14.5”.
Excellent content men. This gives us some ideas for an event at our range. When we started our range some 6+ years back it was surprising, and disappointing, to see the number of rifles that were not sighted in. That issue has improved. We want you to know that your content is inspiring and appreciated immensely. Your commitment to the defense of freedom is noted. We See What You Do. Thank you.
It’s crazy to me because I was sighting first gen red dots 15+ years ago at 10yrs old on a 22ak , had it dialed in sub 5 shots. Still takes me under 10 to dial any ar. Go with buddies and they spend 2 hours shooting groups and still can’t sight theirs in 😭
@@bobmcgoober27what the hell are you talking about? I get you can say more enjoyable (I literally heard about PSR from the comments here, so I’ve never seen any of his videos), but more relevant for the freedom of our rights? Lol…. Was that sarcasm??
@@Bobsonomatic no sarcasm, the freedom should be uninfringed, so when psr makes parody of regulation, causing pro-gun change. lucas offers nothing for opening up our currently infringed 'rights.'
And that blase attitude is precisely why we are losing ground yearly. Its not a hobby, its a God given right and way of life unless youre reddit larper.
@@CivilianOperators I'm 100% correct on all counts, and here are the irrefutable merits: Rifles historically have 24"-30" barrels, and this was true with US service rifles like the M1903, M1917, and M1 Garand until the M-14, which has a 22" barrel, but with a long flash suppressor that makes it even longer. M-1 Carbine has just under an 18" barrel. AR-15 prototypes started out with a 22" barrel, which was then shortened to 20" with Colt 601 production. 20" is technically carbine length if you look at any of the carbines from the late 1800s-1950s, but the US called it a "service rifle". 18" is carbine territory, but attaching a can makes it rifle-length, however the attachment isn't permanent. The first carbine of the Colt family of weapons was the Model 605 with a 15" barrel, named the Infantry Leader Carbine. The shorter 10" and 11.5" XM177 series were called Commandos, even shorter than a carbine. Colt 653 with 14.5" barrel was a Carbine, as were the 723 & 727 M16A2 Carbines, which birthed the M4 Carbine, all with 14.5" barrels. Every manufacturer brochure, technical data sheet, and military TM or TC refers to them as carbines. To argue otherwise is futile.
@@CivilianOperators Way ahead of you there. Started doing high volume training in 1987 and never stopped. If I comment, it's only because it's a subject I've spent decades in. If you want to be educated about the difference between a carbine and a rifle, go back and read my post.
You all do a fantastic job of making this content watchable. The challenge of making such content somewhat entertaining is very difficult, and you rise to the challenge and nail it every time
@@BryceKimball7.3 6.5 Grendel. I have 22", 18", 17.6", 16", 14.5", 12", 10.5", and 8.5" Grendels. 12" Grendel does 2700fps with 90gr TNT, 2800fps with 80gr. I've been shooting 5.56 in high volume since 1987, did a ton of BRM, CQM, ARM, and DM work with it all these years. Started shooting Grendel in 2009. I'm working on some lighter bullet weights for 6.5mm now, and the numbers you can get start getting crazy from these short barrels. We're looking at 3400-3450fps from the 12" Grendel, for example. I'll never build an AR-15 with a longer barrel than 12" ever again, unless it's a Retro.
@@jamfd3s788 There are now 127 active factory ammo SKUs, with 3 new ones from AAC for 75-80cpr, brass cased. A lot of the 77gr 5.56 ammo costs more than quality Grendel Match or Hunting loads.
I have been guilty of getting fixated on the cool high speed stuff but if you live in the mid-west or high plains, a SPR type setup really is going to be the most practical tool for proactive work during any kind of widespread unrest. Good to have both as mentioned in the intro. Awesome breakdown!
I think one of the most under appreciated things about trex arms videos is that about 3 minutes in you don’t have a 2 minute ad break promoting SDI, raid shadow legends, or some other sponsor… I understand why other creators do it, and I don’t have a problem with their channels. But I always appreciate that we don’t have that problem on trex videos
I LOVE all the precision content! I have been interested in precision shooting for a while, but hadn’t taken the leap, and the content from Lucas has finally pushed me over. Excited to watch this MOVIE.
I shoot out to 700 yards Rarely. But remember that the naked eye is 300 yards to see. So, I would argue that 300 yards is a better focus. If you can shoot 25-300 yards, you are doing great. I generally train up to 500 yards. Training up to 300 yards with your rifle is whats needed. Not just prone or bench either
@RaphaelSantuchiRosarioJr I meant 700 yards. (Edited) I agree. I just like to stretch and would recommend even at 500 yards... not really realistic. But do able form a Bench
I think from a general civilian standpoint, most people would engage at distance. There are lots of reasons I believe this would happen but without going into all that, this in my opinion is very valuable information for “normal” people to practice and understand. Great job as always from the TRex team. Thank you Lucas and Brandon.
16" button cut CL FN barrels with 62grain. 1moa out of each one I've built with. No where near the most expensive. bout 200-230 from PA. They are the best 5.56 I've used for accuracy. Better than SS barrels i've used. That of course could be due to error on building on my part, but I think I do okay. I do everything by the book
Great to hear a discussion about terminal performance. Not talked about enough imo. It would open some minds to see the same test with a lightweight 16" AR10 in 308. Significantly less wind drift, similar bullet drop, way larger bullet selection and much easier to spot your impacts and trace. All this, while delivering roughly 3 times the terminal performance on target. You don't need as much ammo, because with a 308, you can incapacitate a warm blooded target with far less shots.
As an amateur gunsmith, results weren't really that surprising. That said, not many people talk about how important barrel length (and the length of the gas port as well) is for creating the dwell time and pressures, which then affect muzzle velocity and effective range, etc etc. Anyways, thanks for highlighting that here.
Part of this is also acknowledging the lack of terminal ballistics a 14.5 has compared to an 18in at longer distances. If I wanted to build a gun that would crush these drills specifically, it would be a 13.9 with a 1-8 ATACR or a 2-10 of some kind.
@@brandon.wombat I appreciate you responding in the comments! I'm not trying to find fault with today's video, but rather have a conversation for people building 1 rifle. There are different approaches, of course, but if you're stuck with 1 setup, I think it's an interesting discussion on weight, velocity, etc. The hostage rescue scenario seems like a minimum 18"/18x to safely do it
@@brandon.wombat The numbers are basically meaningless between 14.5”, 18”, and 20” at distance even with 77gr. 20” 5.56 data 77gr SMK 2850fps hot load 400yds 686ft-lbs 1.8 mils drop 1 mil drift 925yds supersonic with 9.2 drop, 3.1 drift (this is really bad) 18” 5.56 77gr SMK same hot load 400yds 655ft-lbs 1.9 mils drop 1 mil drift 900yds supersonic 9.2 drop, 3 drift 14.5” 5.56 77gr SMK 2676fps same hot load 400yds 591ft-lbs 2.2 drop, 1.1 drift 850yds supersonic 9.1 mils drop, 3 mils drift Only 25yds difference between the 20” and 18”, and 75yds difference between the 20” and 14.5”.
Great, honest video, and thank you for spending the $$$ to produce it for the world. You showed the good, bad, and everything in between. I must say I most appreciated your verbal summary at the end of the video where you encouraged everyone to "start with the basics" before trying to stretch things out to distance, like 600-800M. As a long time student of shooting and a long range shooting competitor, guns & gear geek, ammunition crafter, and general "deep dive" guy on guns and gear, a lot of what you said resonates with me. I personally start with a solid purpose of use (POU), do a TON of research on what to buy and why, including all components of the weapons system, and then start to dial it in. For 600-800M consistency, you HAVE to have a gun that is definitely sub-MOA from the bench, and you will need "heavy for caliber" bullets with higher than average BC's to get consistent hits in real-world scenarios. Once the ammo and gun and optics and ballistics systems and shooter are working consistently well from the bench at no less than 100 yards, then you can add range without it being a waste of time and ammo. One thing that I either didn't hear in the video or that I missed is what is your standard for terminal energy you are trying to achieve? I ask because I tend to believe a 14.5-16" 5.56 precision AR that is a .5-.75MOA gun at 100 yards with the right ammo (77gr Razorcore or similar) that has the right optic, tools for stability, etc. that replicate the kit on the featured SPR's can be plenty lethal at such ranges. In other words, spend more time on the best lethal and accurate ammo for a shorter barreled weapon, and you can cut some inches and weight off the rig and still be plenty "killy" as the Warrior Poet guys say. You could also pick a better AR-15 caliber, like a 6MM MAX, still have great magazine capacity, and do in 14.5 inches of barrel what 20" couldn't do in 5.56. I just think you first need to define how much energy is "enough" or needed at a given range, then perhaps also set an accuracy standard, like 1 or 2 MOA at any given distance, then pick the optimal ammo / barrel length combination that will minimally get you there, then build from there with optics, and everything else. Just my .$.02...
One of the best things I did when I wanted to start shooting accurately was take a Winchester ammo can of M193 and I shot that over the course of a weekend. I was doing grouping drills at 100 yards, as well as various other drills such as DOT drills, standing, kneeling, prone, etc. I definitely got good at the basics that way (I’m still mastering it though)
I just picked up an old model savage 110 chambered in 30-06 specifically to learn long range, I’ve been shooting for years, but honestly, I’ve never stretched it out past 300, time to learn
All the people in the comments complaining about cost and being realistic. My advice is learn to budget and focus on upping income so you can have a personal defense budget every month. In an account that build up so you can always have money set aside for fun builds and ammo. I think there are more good shooters then there are people that know how to budget 😂
The rifles are easy. None of them are even that expensive all things considered. The optics are the real killers when it comes to long(ish) range guns. Spending $2k one time on a truly good rifle isn't that bad. Realizing the optic you need in order to be able to take full advantage of that rifle's capabilities cost $3-4k, that's the hard part.
@clay7279.......I must have missed all those complaining about cost and being realistic out of the 213 comments I read through, I really didn't see any. I have to assume, and I hate to do that, is you have a pretty good job that pays quite well and allows you to spend a considerable amount of money on a "personal defense budget" as you stated! If that is the case then congratulations, and keep up the good work! Even better if you're married and have children, a mortgage, multiple car payments and such. Kudos! I believe it would be a very unfair and untrue statement to assume that many viewers don't already budget and focus on increasing their income, in order to better their way of living....let alone have a "personal defense budget" to spend each month. Here's a better and far more realistic view of this and many other videos created. T Rex arms is a very profitable company, and allows them the luxury to purchase all the super cool tactical gear we see each week in the videos. Lucas himself makes pretty good money, as he should just from the brand. The company makes real good money as it should, do to their hard work also. Let's not forget the money they make from these videos....it is pretty substantial btw. Also, don't forget all the ammo and gear that is given to them for the videos. if you add that all up, we're looking at about $16 Million dollars in 2023, and close to $24 Million dollars in 2024, so far!!! Please don't assume that I'm jealous by any means. Lucas / T Rex arms has worked VERY hard to get where they are, and quite frankly I'm very proud of their accomplishments. I do enjoy the majority of their videos, and I even have a few of their holsters. But realistically and rationally thinking if Lucas and T Rex Arms wasn't as successful as they are, you wouldn't see all the weapons and high end gear, night vision, thermal imaging, suppressors that is being used in the videos, because he'd be in the same category as the vast majority of Americans, living on a budget and potentially struggling to save up for gear like most are! To T Rex Arms and Lucas, God bless and keep up the great work, you are inspirational, and a true American success story! And to you clay7292, I wish you many blessings, be safe and vigilant
What I have is a high level of self imposed discipline. I live below my means and I work each day to improve my ability to grow as a man and as an earner of money. In America we have the greatest opportunity in all of history where a person born into any circumstance has the ability to change their stripes. I currently have gone through a horrendous life change which was not of my creation and am rebuilding from scratch. But for example if I made 3k per month I would budget $500 per month for personal defense giving me 6k per year to spend as I see fit. And I would sacrifice for the ability to set aside $500 per month by having roommates and not eating out because I value personal defense. We are guaranteed through the constitution and bill of rights. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Just because someone may make 2k per month or 100k per month I believe their right to life is their responsibility to protect. Hence a personal defense budget. Now I personally have grown successful and I have been flat broke but what is in my bank account doesn’t matter to me. What matters is my abilities as a man, an American, a father. See I don’t think it’s easy to live a great life. I think it’s the hardest thing any man can choose to do. But I do believe it’s the best way to live life. Like I said above I am starting from scratch in life currently. But I have faith and confidence that I can build a new life much better than my old. As for Lucas, he has created a great company, but his views on life seem to have stayed consistent. And he has always said if you can’t afford something don’t buy it! Live within your means! But that doesn’t mean don’t improve and grow and stretch and take risks. No man should be satisfied with where he is at today. He can always improve in all areas of life. I’m not supporting or not supporting Lucas. I’m in agreement with his hunger to grow and become better in all areas of life. When I see success or exceptionalism in any area I value it and it helps me know I can do better and achieve more as well. Lastly I’ll say it again. People don’t know how to budget in this country. They don’t live within their means. Then wonder why money is always a problem. Anyone can choose to earn more and spend less in areas creating a surplus. I know that if every man in America would choose to be prepared and capable it would change the country’s trajectory in a single generation.
Which is why I hate that Walmart stop selling common ammo. I’d buy a few boxes with each grocery run. Now I have thousands of rounds that is slowly being depleted. But I still make at least one $100 ammo purchase a month. Regardless of how often I shoot. Eases the pain.
Glx 2.5-10x with mil reticle, 3-18 also good for the price and give you plent of capability for under 1k. The SPR doesn’t need 1000 yard glass, it needs to make 700 yards and in way easier, which they both do with good glass and reticles that are very functional
My rule in competitions is that I never, ever, put a partially filled magazine in my mag pouch or chest rig. In only ever put magazines that are loaded to the competition limits in my mag pouches. That eliminates the "forgot to top off my magazines" factor. Been there, done that.
A good tip I use for scoring and journaling my training is using practiscore to make fake matches and then score stages inside of those big matches. You'll end up with less hit Factor errors and it's more convenient to look back on your training to measure progress. I got this tip from Tim Herron.
@@bobmcgoober27 lmao right that’s why Trex spends all kinds of time and money fighting legislation and stupid laws for our rights 😂🤡 wanna go watch a dude shoot with a flashlight go for it the people that take shooting/training serious will stay here and continue to actually learn
I've been waiting for this one. T.Rex is very important kind of company to us civilians for many reasons. I pray I'll get to meet you one day and maybe even get a little time at the 2nd amendment amusement park.
Any 2A content that displays safe and educational content should be celebrated. PSR has done loads for the 3D2A community and overall a great dude. I’m genuinely disgusted you feel self conscious enough to call out a fellow 2A TH-camr as childish. You owe not only PSR a public apology but the entire 2A community. *spits*
You should run those long range drills twice in a row. That way you can learn what you're doing wrong.. Make the adjustments and learn what fixes it. So that way when you're in that scenario again, you already know how to fix your setup on the fly and/or what adjustments to make. Because you've not only been there before and seen that problem before-- but you've also seen the solution.
Imagine how much faster you could be with the SPR type builds at range with a higher magnification BDC reticle scope like the ACSS HUD DMR reticle in some of Primary Arms scopes. Leupold had something similar in their Mark 8 line of scopes. You wouldn't have to dial the scopes and most of those reticles give you a rough means of range estimation and windage and bullet drop estimation. I love my 4-14x44 on my 20" AR.
I use BA 223W 14.5 Premium Black Series Barrel , EXPS2-2 and Vortex MICRO 3x MAGNIFIER is what I shoot in 2Gun Matches . I'm pretty good with this setup 500Y and in . Depending on size of target I can usually get first round hits from 100 - 300Y . I was using EXPS3 and did well with that optic. EXPS2-2 was game changer for me . First dot is 50Y and second dot is 460Y . My in between first and second dot is 360Y. At the last 2Gun Match it took me 6 rounds in total to get 2 hits on reduced C zone at 475Y with 15mph wind..
Feel like a 11.5-12.5 GPR with LPVO+Red Dot and a nice bolt gun setup on the side is a better combo than an SPR. Feel like the SPR is the one that’s out of place where the CQB abilities suffer and the distance shooting is good but not great. But I guess from a “build 1 gun and that’s all you get” standpoint, I could see an SPR being fine.
There’s no place for a 308 bolt gun in modern fighting. That’s why the military has gone to magnums and all 308s are gas guns. The gas guns are just faster. Harder to shoot but in the context it’s not wise to shoot a 308 bolt gun against a 308 gas gun at 4-500 600 yards. If you don’t care and it’s just for hunting and hobby precision sure. I might do that myself. But if we want to fight with that 308. It needs to be a gas gun. Trust me. I’d love for it to be 30, 40, 50 years ago and the bolt gun is what it was cause the m14 kinda sucked. But. Just my opinion.
11.5”-12.5” Commando suppressed is the way to go, especially in a more capable cartridge like Grendel. Punches the steel really hard so there’s no doubt when you hit it like there is with anemic 5.56 once you get to 400yds. 10.5” Grendel makes the 18” 5.56 seem wimpy, because it is. I do love the gas system and BCG smoothness of 18” RLGS 5.56, but Grendel is also a pussycat to shoot. I tune them with Bootleg Adjustable carriers and extra power action springs. Too easy.
The ideal truck gun is a 16" with a MPVO and a piggyback because being able to outrange/outpace your enemy is better than going as short as possible just to get some more maneuverability in my opinion.
Great video! I like the idea of a 16" barrel with a 4-16 atacr with piggyback red dot. If it's a bullpup then you can add the suppressor with less penalties.
@@jackcoakley2848 The lower receiver is what I need to tell the Gov't I'm buying. Everything else I do not. When's the last time someone's said, "My lower receiver is worn out".
@@Roxas13XIII what if you need to arm the neighborhood? Are you going to tell them to "share"? Get some more lowers before the Supreme court goes liberal. Then its time for "you go to war with what you got".
Fun fact: Shorts barrels are more accurate by nature. But, of course hindered by range. Most of us will never be shooting past 300 yards for ANY situation. 13.9-14.5 more than good for one gun. 11.5 isn't bad for that distant really. If you can shoot that far with 18-20", you can do it with 11.5. Glass is where size matters most for that stuff
PSR for the win. That's is what is wrong with society nowadays. When I was growing up people didn't get all emotional when someone had a different opinion. Instead we respected them and their right to their own point of view. Gone are the days of true learning thru non-emotional educational debates.
I agree with this. A jack of all trades gun is kinda possible, but you're better off gettin a MK18/Shorty with a red dot on it and then get a SPR like a MK12 with a scope. If you're going to throw a scope on a 14.5 inch AR you might as well just get a MK12.
I just couldn't decide what set up I wanted more, so I said fuck it and went with a 13.9 P&W "SPR" build. Still a work in progress in terms of accessorizing it how I would like, but overall pretty happy with it for my area/use case
I have an 11.5 with an lpvo Wich everyone gives me shit for but the first time I was able to shoot past 150 i was able to get first round and consistent impacts on 8in plates at 3&400 yards using 4dof and 75 & 77 gr AAC when you know exactly what your bullet is going to do it makes it easier
Yup. 11.5” suppressed with more modern bullets does better than people might think. 70gr Berger is great, as is the 77gr Nosler RDF. That Nosler RDF will take you to 900yds supersonic at sea level/59˚F from the 11.5” barrel. Works a lot better out to 550yds though for wind drift. I run LPVOs on 8.5”, 10.5”, and 12” Grendels. Very appropriate, especially the new wave of really compact LPVOs in 1-8x24 and 1-10x24. I’m making repeated, predictable hits at 780-800yds with the 12” Grendel with factory 123gr ELD-M and 110gr PPU.
Just wanted to say thank you for not using bad words in your videos. Unlike other channels, I am able to watch your training videos with my sons and do not have to worry.
Based father
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Oh yea, God forbid they hear a bad word while dad is watching a video on optimizing a rifle for killing people. That would be terrible! 😮
@@taylormartin4346🤡
@@taylormartin4346 There are many channels filled with profanity already, where I really wished I could watch with my kids and not hear any of that. I spent 23 years around guys who can't seem to get through a sentence without extreme forms of vulgarity, and it never sounded professional. It is a gem when you find content like this that is free of it.
Nice job lucas, PSR really appreciated that one
LOL, right on.
What is PSR? I'm a little lost on the conversation going on.
@@the.tricky.outdoorsmana Guntube Edgelord. Not a bad dude but more on the entertainment side of things but does promote 3d printing which is dope.
XD ikr
also based pfp
@@callsigndobermanairsoft4209 PSwho?
Thanks for shouting out Psr 😂
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Morally corrupt people such as yourself will always flock together.
There’s no other videos like this out there IMO. I truly enjoy the longer videos and not rushing through for the sake of length in the videos.
The last 9 min was the only relevant part of this entire video.
@@19840bmaybe it’s your attention span because they went into great detail about each weapon before the test that made the results matter and better understood.
@@johnwalker1848 agree to disagree.
@@19840b You just suffer from tiktok brain
@@TTime685 the high intellect reflected in response to my dissent is rather entertaining.
Making precise shots at realistic distances is important. Making combat effective shots inside of 25yds quickly is importanter for most cases 😅
You’re going into combat? Lol hahaha
Airsoft?
Is it? As a civilian are you more likely to be clearing rooms at close quarters, or are you more likely to be defending your land/street/city block at 100+ yards out?
@@alpha6tango860 It's only a matter of time before the united states falls apart. There are 45 million barbarians inside the gates
@alpha6tango860 have you not seen how quickly society can collapse into chaos? Summer of love 2020 is the perfect example.
@@namniag I feel comfortable taking shots with an eotech mag or no mag to 250-300. I love precision rifles, but I just don’t see myself grabbing a scoped AR15 for a majority of situations.
Here because of PSR! Thank you all for the channel support!!! 😀
Had no idea who PSR was so thank you Lucas!! You’ve given me a much better alternative than watching your videos!!
The point of the GPR is to cover most basis in your Area and being decent at most things. This allows funds to be used for gear, ammo, homesteading. Of course after all that build yourself a SPR.
@@PistonDrivenGun Can I ask where the first place was where you heard this term, GPR? I'm trying to pinpoint it because it was never a thing before, and now I see it repeatedly.
Brass Facts was the first guy I heard use it. I think everyone just got tired of the term "recce rifle", plus it's more specific for what most people are using it for, not necessarily recce.
@kerndawg8877 most rifles aren't recon rifles anyways. I refuse to use that term
@@kerndawg8877 The origin of the modern free-floated scoped carbine came from Recce Troops in SFOD-D in the early 1990s. That's where the Snipers were, since Snipers conduct point TGT Recce (called Area Recon in the US) ahead of Assaulters hitting a TGT.
The Dam Neck guys saw those carbines and had their armorers build similar variants for them, and by that time, the M4A1 had gone into production (1994), so both JSOC Recce elements were using M4 uppers with scope riser bases and rings with different optics, along with KAC CF tubes, Aluminum FF tubes, and eventually the KAC FF RAS for Dam Neck and KAC MRE for The Unit.
CAG was using Japanese 1.5-4.5 Microdot LPVOs before S&B made the Short Dot for them.
Dam Neck was using ACOGs on earlier guns, and then the NF 2.5-10x24 on the FF RAS 15.1" barrel carbines.
But that's where the "Recce" term came from.
@@kerndawg8877 Not including the original Colt 655 and 656 Light Sniper Rifles from the Vietnam era, the use of optics-equipped, and later free-floated carbines was in SFOD-D Recce Troops, where the Snipers are. Some of them had the armorers build them free-floated 723s originally, with FSP pocket cuts and aluminum tubes, then the KAC SR-25 tubes with AR-15 barrel nuts.
Optics were either Aimpoints or 1.5-4.5x Japanese Microdots on risers and rings with shaved uppers or carry handles with scope rails in the channel. They wanted a light sniper support carbine that they could also clear space with, flow through on-TGT and into position for exfil right along with the Assaulters.
Dam Neck Recce Troop guys (Snipers) saw those and had their armorers build some off their Colt 727s and then the M4A1s, since the M4A1 went into production in 1994, so there was no more need to shave uppers.
The KAC FF RAS and MRE were direct response products from KAC to those SMUs, with MREs mainly going to CAG and rifle-length FF RAS to Dam Neck for the SEAL Recce system.
CAG basically kicked-off this whole direction for the AR-15. They got the S&B Short Dot and also used some Leupold 2.5-8x36 and other optics, user-driven as long as it held up to the shoot schedule.
I’m glad you mentioned the fact that having a higher magnification scope is a good idea you are going to get a better sight picture running a 5-25 on 14x than running a 3-14 maxed out. I had not considered that until you mentioned it here
One more thing to think about is how usable the reticle is at that magnification. I have a 4-24FFP that I run mostly at 12x but the mils are less useful at that magnification than I'd like. For this reason I have been looking at the 3-15s FFP to run at 12x still.
@@danielsullivan5287 what makes them Les useful are they harder to see at 12x the whole reason for having an ffp is that the reticle is accurate throughout the magnification range I understand if it’s being used under 10 power that the graduations may be to small to use is that what you are referring to? I would have thought at 10x and above the reticle would be useable, if not why not just get the second focal plane version and save some cash
@@googlechickenwhat he’s saying is that because ffp reticles scale with magnification they have to be designed to be not insanely huge at high magnification. This leads to *sometimes* to setups in 5-25 or 6-36 scopes where they are very hard to see at lower mags compared to other reticles.
But this can be analyzed before purchase by researching the reticle size before purchasing. If it’s .09 mrad it’s always .09 mrad.
A good reverse example is the athlon helps 2-12. Works awesome at low mag, very easy to see but at 12 it’s obnoxiously large for what you want to do when you’re at 12
The tangent gen2xr is a good example of a fine reticle built to be used up at high mag that becomes useless at anything less than 15x
If you're going through the trouble, time, money and effort to build a 5.56 SPR, the following will drastically increase your odds of success:
1: 223 Wylde chamber
2: 1:8 twist(it will stabilize any available practical precision projectiles that can be loaded to 2.260". Too much spin "highlights the flaws in the bullets".)
3: 5R rifling( not sure why, but it seems to slightly increase the odds of tiny groups, many theories exist)
4: Adjustable gas block(restricting gas to the min for bolt hold open keeps your gun slightly cleaner and gives you a small velocity bump of 25 to 100 FPS)
5: high quality bolt head spaced to the barrel
6: a thermal fit of the barrel to the upper( warm up the upper in the over at 200F to 30 min, then slip the barrel in)
7: tune the gun to run on the least gas possible(light recoil spring, light buffer, light BCG, see #4 for reasons)
8: rifle length or rifle length + gas system( smoother running means staying on target, spotting shots and more rapid follow up)
9: Top end magnification to 10 to 20 power, with a Christmas tree
10: free floated hand guard
11: a solid trigger
12: ALL ambi controls(so you don't have to break cheek weld to operate the rifle)
My recommended companies that have allowed me to build sub MOA repeatedly
X-Caliber Barrels
Superlative Arms gas blocks and tubes
JP precision bolts
Aero Precision M4E1 upper and lowers
Springco springs
PA, Swampfox, or Athlon optics
Monstrum PRO 7075 mount(6061 mounts have a real bad habit of bending, even the $600 ones)
Midwest Industries hand guards
MBT triggers
I've tested 24 types of factory ammo in 4 rifles(SPR build, $400 poverty pony, FN M16A4 clone, FN M4 clone)
If you have zero interest in screwing around, and just want a rock solid factory ammo choice, buy IMI Razor Core 77gr SMK OTM LR MOD-1 BROWN BOX by the pallet and send it. The green and tan IMI is NOT the same thing, not even close. BROWN BOX finished in the top 5 for all 4 rifles, for precision and velocity(other 4 were different for each rifle). You might be able to find factory ammo to beat IMI brown box, but you'll have to do quite a bit of testing.
Is a little bit cleaner action and minor fps improvements really worth to go on the low end gas flow? I would be concerned more about reliability in harsh conditions. Especially with a rifle that is meant for serious use.
@@mhhh7721 Why would reliability suffer??
@@joearledge Low Gas could lead to short stroking.
@@mhhh7721 So... I'm assuming you've never built a gas gun and aren't familiar with the physics behind it.
In order to cycle, you have to overcome: mass(brass, BCG and it's guts, hammer, buffer & spring), spring force(hammer & buffer spring), and friction(all of the above).
In a given rifle, it takes "X" amount of force to overcome all of that. Not all rifles are the same, because the mass, friction, and springs are not the same in all rifles.
So, you need just enough gas to create "X" amount of force to cycle(bolt lock back on an empty mag for this application). Much more than that, and it's a waste of energy in the system(energy provided by the gas).
You can manipulate the "X" amount of force required to cycle, by messing with the mass, friction, and springs. If you reduce / lighten all of these, "X" decreases, and the opposite is also true.
By using an adjustable gas block that restricts the flow through the gas tube, you are able to get just enough gas to achieve "X". Normally, most people open it 1 more click after bolt lock back to ensure reliability. This is still far less gas going down the gas tube than in a "normal" rifle.
This allows us to use the energy of the gas to push the pill a little faster, because it's not being dumped into the gas tube unnecessarily. It also means a slightly cleaner receiver.
The default for the average off the shelf rifle with a normal barrel, gas block, trigger group, BCG & guts, buffer and buffer spring is "gas cranked up to 11". Manufacturers do this because they want it to run with EVERYTHING. This includes the El Cheapo steel case 55gr imported ghetto blaster special doing 2500 FPS from a 16". If it didn't run with the nastiest cheapest sketchiest factory loads, the manufacturers would get a mountain of angry phone calls and horrible reviews, because the average person's understanding is not much beyond "bullets go bang". You were smart enough to ask the question, so you are more advanced than average.
For non-adjustable gas blocks, I usually use a normal weight BCG & guts, might upgrade the trigger group, then play with buffer and buffer spring weights so that the force needed to cycle matches the gas. This results in smoother shooting and slightly cleaner receiver.
You can tune any of the above variables to any ammo(premium hand loads or 55gr ghetto blaster), depending on what your are trying to do. The whisper pickle bois mess with this stuff on a pretty regular basis, because a can changes the equation.
Anyway, sorry for the novel, hope it helps, let me know if you have questions.
Was Frontier 75gr bthp one of your 24? If so, how did it perform?
The red device that Brandon pulled out and called a "Magneto speed" is a $60 barrel cooling device called the Riflekühl, for anyone else who is curious. I had to look it up since I have never heard of it or seen it before. Runs air through the barrel to cool it down.
Thanks T. Rex for content like this.
They are snake oil; please spend that $60 on more ammo
@@heyhayhay247 lol its not snake oil. Chamber temp is a well documented factor in vertical shift. If you are developing handloads, it is a great way to expedite the testing process.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj that is true, but it has absolutely ZERO positive effects on barrel life, if anything it will decrease the barrel life by cooling it more quickly than it should
It’s actually a chronograph and measures bullet speed. TH-cam magnetospeed
@@WashItNOLA-s8i nope, y'all are talking about two different things
I left the Sniper School house in 2022. I met Lucas one day at our arms room. And The shoot in is a critical part of the testing and training we do there. I recommend like lucas said is eveyone give it a try, the results might surprise you.
I have yet heard a 500 yard shot. Until then keep running your videos. 500 bitch
@@LukeSmith117 Zeroing on the 25m zero target used to be a basic part of BRM and it was expected of any infantryman to be able to do it before qualifying. It was easier to do with the M16A1 and M4A1, harder to do with the M16A2 and M4 due to that stupid BURST mechanism. The secondary clutch disconnector for the BURST feature is still engaged while in SEMI auto, so we would typically see 2 rounds touching, with one flier on BURST mechanism A2s or M4s.
A decent shooter could still keep all 3 inside the black easily at 25m though. Biggest factor is having competent leadership who knew marksmanship and provided the time and helpful coaching for new shooters to help them improve.
Unfortunately, the Army really sucked at creating such a culture because of a very hurried approach to range days, with poorly-trained NCOs in marksmanship instruction, even though we had the best shooters in the world to draw experience from.
They even had AMU guys come out and instruct BRM in OSUT, but the schedule was so rushed that we weren't able to focus enough on it.
@@LRRPFco52 I'd rather have burst than not... Agree with everything else 👍
@@WearilyCorrect If we had SEMI only in the line and in Recon, it would have been better. We just never used the BURST feature unless doing OPFOR, where we sometimes would take 550 gut or tripwire and arrest the BURST clutch from engaging the wheel, making it full auto.
My first unit still had M16A1s, so in Recon, we used AUTO for the 1 & 2 man doing break contact drills. When we turned in the A1s and drew out A2s, it just wasn't the same trying to use BURST for that. Pretty worthless and counterproductive feature due to how it hurt marksmanship in SEMI.
@@WearilyCorrect Painfully obvious you've never used it. First, we almost never ever used it in combat. Second, because of the design of the mechanism, it's prone to failure and even if it works 100% properly, your 1st "burst" might be 1, 2 or 3 shots, depending on where you're at in the cycle. Third, technically it makes a crappy semi trigger worse, because of it's design.
A jack of all trades is a master of none but still more useful than a master of one
Except for the thing that the master of one is a master at.
Prefer to be a Jack of all Jill's, personally ;)
Was raised by that paraphrase. USMC. Fucking thing is useless at 500yards
The phrase WAS "jack of all trades & master of one". The change to none was a joke, an insult to throw at someone. That no one seems to know the history is just sad.
Second best at everything is called being the GOAT
I love this long form content. The thoroughness is really appreciated.
PSR content is 10,000 times more relevant than any botkins' for the freedom our rights.
Yeah a 2-20 scope is pretty mind blowing really, that's a seriously HUGE range of magnification and opens up a ton of options for how you can use that scope.
Great and informative content. Thanks and ignore the haters. Far more appreciate your talent and content than don’t.
I preach this!!!! 18" is the sweet spot for the AR! for the reasons given (terminal ballistics) and if the SHTF you are way way way more likely to want a LR rifle to keep people away from your house, family, ammo, food, etc.
YOU WILL NOT BE CLEARING HOUSES AROUND YOUR TOWN WITH YOUR BUDDIES (none of which actually KNOW how to clear rooms lol)
It is also rifle length gas block which shoots like a dream
If we’re clearing houses then we might as well be dead anyway 💀
@@CivilianOperators Yes sir!!
@sonofgodNIV I would put the Vortex Razor LHT 4.5-22 it only weighs 21oz.
I wouldnt go any heavier than 25oz u can also look into the Athlon Helos 4-20 which much cheaper.
Id also keep the scope mount between 6-8oz (max) u can find some a little lighter like the Vortex, Swampfox Freedom, Aero....but the ADM w titanium QD mounts is like 6.7oz pretty hard to beat
For extending the terminal effective range, run 77 TMKs instead of the 69 or 77 SMK. Lucas said that civilians are not constrained in their gun builds, that also holds true for ammunition also. I think Black Hills are the only ones loading TMKs from the factory, but if the demand is there the supply will follow.
I'm just gonna say, you guys should try to build the SPRs as light as reasonably possible. That'll help everything other than recoil management and a tiny bit of stability. I'm confused as to why you'd have quad rails on one of these builds.
The mod 1 drip
i built a ar15 with a 20 inch fn barrel and its so much fun shooting long range with it
The numbers are basically meaningless between 14.5”, 18”, and 20” at distance even with 77gr.
20” 5.56 data 77gr SMK 2850fps hot load
400yds 686ft-lbs 1.8 mils drop 1 mil drift
925yds supersonic with 9.2 drop, 3.1 drift (this is really bad)
18” 5.56 77gr SMK same hot load
400yds 655ft-lbs 1.9 mils drop 1 mil drift
900yds supersonic 9.2 drop, 3 drift
14.5” 5.56 77gr SMK 2676fps same hot load
400yds 591ft-lbs 2.2 drop, 1.1 drift
850yds supersonic 9.1 mils drop, 3 mils drift
Only 25yds difference between the 20” and 18”, and 75yds difference between the 20” and 14.5”.
Excellent content men. This gives us some ideas for an event at our range. When we started our range some 6+ years back it was surprising, and disappointing, to see the number of rifles that were not sighted in. That issue has improved. We want you to know that your content is inspiring and appreciated immensely. Your commitment to the defense of freedom is noted. We See What You Do. Thank you.
It’s crazy to me because I was sighting first gen red dots 15+ years ago at 10yrs old on a 22ak , had it dialed in sub 5 shots. Still takes me under 10 to dial any ar. Go with buddies and they spend 2 hours shooting groups and still can’t sight theirs in 😭
PSR content is 10,000 times more relevant than any botkins' for the freedom our rights.
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Even lesbian women dont wear pants that skinny.
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Daaamn! 😂🤣
the funniest comment I’ve seen.
* Lucas and company make great content 💯
No PSR ! Only the most serious of content!!!! Brother this is just a hobby for some people
PSR content is 10,000 times more relevant than any botkins' for the freedom our rights.
@@bobmcgoober27what the hell are you talking about? I get you can say more enjoyable (I literally heard about PSR from the comments here, so I’ve never seen any of his videos), but more relevant for the freedom of our rights? Lol…. Was that sarcasm??
@@Bobsonomatic Larping in kit vs homemade firearms. Do the math, goober.
@@Bobsonomatic no sarcasm, the freedom should be uninfringed, so when psr makes parody of regulation, causing pro-gun change. lucas offers nothing for opening up our currently infringed 'rights.'
And that blase attitude is precisely why we are losing ground yearly. Its not a hobby, its a God given right and way of life unless youre reddit larper.
I’m sure PSR appreciates the subscriber boost
You can delete the video but we all know PSR still lives rent free in your head lol
He didn't delete it. It's still up.
LoL
Who is PSR?
@woodrowcall3158 a gay youtuber who's fan base is all anime reddit libtard weirdos. Only good thing he does is promote 3D printing..
@@woodrowcall3158PSR is a cool humble gentleman that dables in squrting
The SPR uppers fielded to 1st brigade 25th ID 1/24 INF “Deuce Four” for use in Mosul in 2004 were made by Olympic Arms.
They were 16” barrels w/ free float quad rail hand guards.
It's like you guys read my mind on comparing the GPR to SPR. Great content. Thanks!
Neither are rifles though, so these new naming conventions don’t work/are inaccurate descriptors. 18” and less are carbines.
@@LRRPFco52Wrong on all accounts.
@@CivilianOperators I'm 100% correct on all counts, and here are the irrefutable merits: Rifles historically have 24"-30" barrels, and this was true with US service rifles like the M1903, M1917, and M1 Garand until the M-14, which has a 22" barrel, but with a long flash suppressor that makes it even longer.
M-1 Carbine has just under an 18" barrel.
AR-15 prototypes started out with a 22" barrel, which was then shortened to 20" with Colt 601 production. 20" is technically carbine length if you look at any of the carbines from the late 1800s-1950s, but the US called it a "service rifle".
18" is carbine territory, but attaching a can makes it rifle-length, however the attachment isn't permanent.
The first carbine of the Colt family of weapons was the Model 605 with a 15" barrel, named the Infantry Leader Carbine. The shorter 10" and 11.5" XM177 series were called Commandos, even shorter than a carbine.
Colt 653 with 14.5" barrel was a Carbine, as were the 723 & 727 M16A2 Carbines, which birthed the M4 Carbine, all with 14.5" barrels.
Every manufacturer brochure, technical data sheet, and military TM or TC refers to them as carbines. To argue otherwise is futile.
@@LRRPFco52I’m gonna really disappoint you and let you know I didn’t read your rage paragraph at all. Stop ranting and go train :)
@@CivilianOperators Way ahead of you there. Started doing high volume training in 1987 and never stopped. If I comment, it's only because it's a subject I've spent decades in. If you want to be educated about the difference between a carbine and a rifle, go back and read my post.
Damn, y’all threw PSR a layup 😂😂😂
Gosh dang it I love Munitionworks, dude makes incredible rifles. Never had an issue with mine
You all do a fantastic job of making this content watchable. The challenge of making such content somewhat entertaining is very difficult, and you rise to the challenge and nail it every time
I still believe that a "Jack of all trades" rifle still exists, and is very applicable to most civilians.
@@offshoreearth3119 Imagine having a 10.5" AR-15 that has more muzzle energy and velocity than a 20" AR, with lower chamber pressure.
@@LRRPFco52what are you speaking of
@@BryceKimball7.3 6.5 Grendel. I have 22", 18", 17.6", 16", 14.5", 12", 10.5", and 8.5" Grendels. 12" Grendel does 2700fps with 90gr TNT, 2800fps with 80gr.
I've been shooting 5.56 in high volume since 1987, did a ton of BRM, CQM, ARM, and DM work with it all these years. Started shooting Grendel in 2009.
I'm working on some lighter bullet weights for 6.5mm now, and the numbers you can get start getting crazy from these short barrels. We're looking at 3400-3450fps from the 12" Grendel, for example. I'll never build an AR-15 with a longer barrel than 12" ever again, unless it's a Retro.
@@LRRPFco52 I love 6.5 grendel but for most people stocking up a large amount of it is very cost prohibitive that's always been its drawback.
@@jamfd3s788 There are now 127 active factory ammo SKUs, with 3 new ones from AAC for 75-80cpr, brass cased. A lot of the 77gr 5.56 ammo costs more than quality Grendel Match or Hunting loads.
I have been guilty of getting fixated on the cool high speed stuff but if you live in the mid-west or high plains, a SPR type setup really is going to be the most practical tool for proactive work during any kind of widespread unrest. Good to have both as mentioned in the intro.
Awesome breakdown!
I think one of the most under appreciated things about trex arms videos is that about 3 minutes in you don’t have a 2 minute ad break promoting SDI, raid shadow legends, or some other sponsor… I understand why other creators do it, and I don’t have a problem with their channels. But I always appreciate that we don’t have that problem on trex videos
Does anybody know what rail is being used for his spr?
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@@bobmcgoober27"the freedom of our rights"? lol shut up
@@gammaraymonkey Sounds like what an oath breaker would say.
@@gammaraymonkey foolish foolish rhetoric.
I LOVE all the precision content! I have been interested in precision shooting for a while, but hadn’t taken the leap, and the content from Lucas has finally pushed me over. Excited to watch this MOVIE.
Something about him just screams “I have never been in a fight of any kind”.
your comment exudes that as well.
As does yours 😂@@cagneybillingsley2165
It's just the lack of a beard.
“Me and my dads money have been doing for ten years”
Cult leader dad*
Lmao you obviously don't know the Trex origin story 😂
@AndreNUTZDEEZ give him an iPod at least lol
@AndreNUTZDEEZtell me your from a poor family and your dads a loser with nothing to give to you without telling me.
@greyGG308 Just because you have no talent or vision doesn't mean others don't.
You got them chicken little legs son
that's cuz he's too busy acting like he's in the shit when he aint
@@stock7628😂 probably smells like it though.
good stuff. I made up my mind on my next build because of this video. Thanks for the great content.
I shoot out to 700 yards Rarely. But remember that the naked eye is 300 yards to see. So, I would argue that 300 yards is a better focus. If you can shoot 25-300 yards, you are doing great. I generally train up to 500 yards. Training up to 300 yards with your rifle is whats needed. Not just prone or bench either
I said 500 yards not 700 rounds. That waste. Since most can't produce rounds in a battlefield
@RaphaelSantuchiRosarioJr I meant 700 yards. (Edited)
I agree. I just like to stretch and would recommend even at 500 yards... not really realistic. But do able form a Bench
Ton of work here and really informative. I didn't expect the results. Thanks!
Keep these kind of videos coming! I would love to see this same session with 308.
Great concept for a video. Thanks. I don't watch every video, but I am always glad when I do.
Can’t beat an hour long t.rex video on a Sunday morning 🤜🏼🤛🏼
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I think from a general civilian standpoint, most people would engage at distance. There are lots of reasons I believe this would happen but without going into all that, this in my opinion is very valuable information for “normal” people to practice and understand. Great job as always from the TRex team. Thank you Lucas and Brandon.
My brother in Christ, those jeans are tight as hell, and this is coming from an ex-metalcore musician. Here from PSR😂
16" button cut CL FN barrels with 62grain. 1moa out of each one I've built with. No where near the most expensive. bout 200-230 from PA. They are the best 5.56 I've used for accuracy. Better than SS barrels i've used. That of course could be due to error on building on my part, but I think I do okay. I do everything by the book
Def lost a lot of subcribers
NOT ENOUGH
What am I missing why?
@@dteachout147yeah fr
@@dteachout147 he’s been an ass lately and is trash talking channels 1/3rd his size but get his amount of views in only 8 hours
@@dteachout147 He got the rainbow people mad.
Good lord this was rough to sit thru 😅
Great to hear a discussion about terminal performance. Not talked about enough imo.
It would open some minds to see the same test with a lightweight 16" AR10 in 308.
Significantly less wind drift, similar bullet drop, way larger bullet selection and much easier to spot your impacts and trace. All this, while delivering roughly 3 times the terminal performance on target.
You don't need as much ammo, because with a 308, you can incapacitate a warm blooded target with far less shots.
As an amateur gunsmith, results weren't really that surprising. That said, not many people talk about how important barrel length (and the length of the gas port as well) is for creating the dwell time and pressures, which then affect muzzle velocity and effective range, etc etc. Anyways, thanks for highlighting that here.
I'd like to see you do the whole challenge with a Leupold illuminated 2-10x on a 14.5
I’m assuming you have that scope?
@@dimemmo just seems like a good test-case for what they are trying to do
Part of this is also acknowledging the lack of terminal ballistics a 14.5 has compared to an 18in at longer distances. If I wanted to build a gun that would crush these drills specifically, it would be a 13.9 with a 1-8 ATACR or a 2-10 of some kind.
@@brandon.wombat I appreciate you responding in the comments! I'm not trying to find fault with today's video, but rather have a conversation for people building 1 rifle. There are different approaches, of course, but if you're stuck with 1 setup, I think it's an interesting discussion on weight, velocity, etc. The hostage rescue scenario seems like a minimum 18"/18x to safely do it
@@brandon.wombat The numbers are basically meaningless between 14.5”, 18”, and 20” at distance even with 77gr.
20” 5.56 data 77gr SMK 2850fps hot load
400yds 686ft-lbs 1.8 mils drop 1 mil drift
925yds supersonic with 9.2 drop, 3.1 drift (this is really bad)
18” 5.56 77gr SMK same hot load
400yds 655ft-lbs 1.9 mils drop 1 mil drift
900yds supersonic 9.2 drop, 3 drift
14.5” 5.56 77gr SMK 2676fps same hot load
400yds 591ft-lbs 2.2 drop, 1.1 drift
850yds supersonic 9.1 mils drop, 3 mils drift
Only 25yds difference between the 20” and 18”, and 75yds difference between the 20” and 14.5”.
Great, honest video, and thank you for spending the $$$ to produce it for the world. You showed the good, bad, and everything in between. I must say I most appreciated your verbal summary at the end of the video where you encouraged everyone to "start with the basics" before trying to stretch things out to distance, like 600-800M. As a long time student of shooting and a long range shooting competitor, guns & gear geek, ammunition crafter, and general "deep dive" guy on guns and gear, a lot of what you said resonates with me. I personally start with a solid purpose of use (POU), do a TON of research on what to buy and why, including all components of the weapons system, and then start to dial it in. For 600-800M consistency, you HAVE to have a gun that is definitely sub-MOA from the bench, and you will need "heavy for caliber" bullets with higher than average BC's to get consistent hits in real-world scenarios. Once the ammo and gun and optics and ballistics systems and shooter are working consistently well from the bench at no less than 100 yards, then you can add range without it being a waste of time and ammo. One thing that I either didn't hear in the video or that I missed is what is your standard for terminal energy you are trying to achieve? I ask because I tend to believe a 14.5-16" 5.56 precision AR that is a .5-.75MOA gun at 100 yards with the right ammo (77gr Razorcore or similar) that has the right optic, tools for stability, etc. that replicate the kit on the featured SPR's can be plenty lethal at such ranges. In other words, spend more time on the best lethal and accurate ammo for a shorter barreled weapon, and you can cut some inches and weight off the rig and still be plenty "killy" as the Warrior Poet guys say. You could also pick a better AR-15 caliber, like a 6MM MAX, still have great magazine capacity, and do in 14.5 inches of barrel what 20" couldn't do in 5.56. I just think you first need to define how much energy is "enough" or needed at a given range, then perhaps also set an accuracy standard, like 1 or 2 MOA at any given distance, then pick the optimal ammo / barrel length combination that will minimally get you there, then build from there with optics, and everything else. Just my .$.02...
Great video. I recently started training with an 18" SPR build, after shooting a 14.5 for a long time. This was a very interesting video.
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One of the best things I did when I wanted to start shooting accurately was take a Winchester ammo can of M193 and I shot that over the course of a weekend. I was doing grouping drills at 100 yards, as well as various other drills such as DOT drills, standing, kneeling, prone, etc. I definitely got good at the basics that way (I’m still mastering it though)
Another awesome video out of T-REX. Thanks for everything you guys do and the knowledge is greatly appreciated.
PSR content is 10,000 times more relevant than any botkins' for the freedom our rights.
I just picked up an old model savage 110 chambered in 30-06 specifically to learn long range, I’ve been shooting for years, but honestly, I’ve never stretched it out past 300, time to learn
All the people in the comments complaining about cost and being realistic. My advice is learn to budget and focus on upping income so you can have a personal defense budget every month. In an account that build up so you can always have money set aside for fun builds and ammo. I think there are more good shooters then there are people that know how to budget 😂
The rifles are easy. None of them are even that expensive all things considered. The optics are the real killers when it comes to long(ish) range guns.
Spending $2k one time on a truly good rifle isn't that bad. Realizing the optic you need in order to be able to take full advantage of that rifle's capabilities cost $3-4k, that's the hard part.
@clay7279.......I must have missed all those complaining about cost and being realistic out of the 213 comments I read through, I really didn't see any.
I have to assume, and I hate to do that, is you have a pretty good job that pays quite well and allows you to spend a considerable amount of money on a "personal defense budget" as you stated! If that is the case then congratulations, and keep up the good work! Even better if you're married and have children, a mortgage, multiple car payments and such. Kudos!
I believe it would be a very unfair and untrue statement to assume that many viewers don't already budget and focus on increasing their income, in order to better their way of living....let alone have a "personal defense budget" to spend each month.
Here's a better and far more realistic view of this and many other videos created.
T Rex arms is a very profitable company, and allows them the luxury to purchase all the super cool tactical gear we see each week in the videos.
Lucas himself makes pretty good money, as he should just from the brand.
The company makes real good money as it should, do to their hard work also.
Let's not forget the money they make from these videos....it is pretty substantial btw.
Also, don't forget all the ammo and gear that is given to them for the videos.
if you add that all up, we're looking at about $16 Million dollars in 2023, and close to $24 Million dollars in 2024, so far!!!
Please don't assume that I'm jealous by any means.
Lucas / T Rex arms has worked VERY hard to get where they are, and quite frankly I'm very proud of their accomplishments.
I do enjoy the majority of their videos, and I even have a few of their holsters.
But realistically and rationally thinking if Lucas and T Rex Arms wasn't as successful as they are, you wouldn't see all the weapons and high end gear, night vision, thermal imaging, suppressors that is being used in the videos, because he'd be in the same category as the vast majority of Americans, living on a budget and potentially struggling to save up for gear like most are!
To T Rex Arms and Lucas, God bless and keep up the great work, you are inspirational, and a true American success story!
And to you clay7292, I wish you many blessings, be safe and vigilant
What I have is a high level of self imposed discipline. I live below my means and I work each day to improve my ability to grow as a man and as an earner of money. In America we have the greatest opportunity in all of history where a person born into any circumstance has the ability to change their stripes. I currently have gone through a horrendous life change which was not of my creation and am rebuilding from scratch.
But for example if I made 3k per month I would budget $500 per month for personal defense giving me 6k per year to spend as I see fit. And I would sacrifice for the ability to set aside $500 per month by having roommates and not eating out because I value personal defense. We are guaranteed through the constitution and bill of rights. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Just because someone may make 2k per month or 100k per month I believe their right to life is their responsibility to protect. Hence a personal defense budget.
Now I personally have grown successful and I have been flat broke but what is in my bank account doesn’t matter to me. What matters is my abilities as a man, an American, a father. See I don’t think it’s easy to live a great life. I think it’s the hardest thing any man can choose to do. But I do believe it’s the best way to live life. Like I said above I am starting from scratch in life currently. But I have faith and confidence that I can build a new life much better than my old.
As for Lucas, he has created a great company, but his views on life seem to have stayed consistent. And he has always said if you can’t afford something don’t buy it! Live within your means! But that doesn’t mean don’t improve and grow and stretch and take risks. No man should be satisfied with where he is at today. He can always improve in all areas of life. I’m not supporting or not supporting Lucas. I’m in agreement with his hunger to grow and become better in all areas of life. When I see success or exceptionalism in any area I value it and it helps me know I can do better and achieve more as well.
Lastly I’ll say it again. People don’t know how to budget in this country. They don’t live within their means. Then wonder why money is always a problem. Anyone can choose to earn more and spend less in areas creating a surplus. I know that if every man in America would choose to be prepared and capable it would change the country’s trajectory in a single generation.
Which is why I hate that Walmart stop selling common ammo. I’d buy a few boxes with each grocery run. Now I have thousands of rounds that is slowly being depleted. But I still make at least one $100 ammo purchase a month. Regardless of how often I shoot. Eases the pain.
Glx 2.5-10x with mil reticle, 3-18 also good for the price and give you plent of capability for under 1k. The SPR doesn’t need 1000 yard glass, it needs to make 700 yards and in way easier, which they both do with good glass and reticles that are very functional
Good video. Enjoyed it. Thank you.
Looks like a Special Purpose Receiver is best for... a special purpose. Good video
My rule in competitions is that I never, ever, put a partially filled magazine in my mag pouch or chest rig. In only ever put magazines that are loaded to the competition limits in my mag pouches. That eliminates the "forgot to top off my magazines" factor. Been there, done that.
Awesome video Lucas and Brandon. This is exactly what we wanna see.
They're lame ass larpers who look 12 years old
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A good tip I use for scoring and journaling my training is using practiscore to make fake matches and then score stages inside of those big matches. You'll end up with less hit Factor errors and it's more convenient to look back on your training to measure progress.
I got this tip from Tim Herron.
PSR is KING!
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@@curryis828says the guy with a profile pic like yours 😂. Must be a liberal calling right wing countries “Nazis”
Respect for the amount of effort put into this.
I love listening to ppl who KNOW what they are talking about!
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@@bobmcgoober27 lmao right that’s why Trex spends all kinds of time and money fighting legislation and stupid laws for our rights 😂🤡 wanna go watch a dude shoot with a flashlight go for it the people that take shooting/training serious will stay here and continue to actually learn
I just did a DMR 2 class today. I loved it .
I've been waiting for this one. T.Rex is very important kind of company to us civilians for many reasons. I pray I'll get to meet you one day and maybe even get a little time at the 2nd amendment amusement park.
I love these type of videos. They are what got me started and motivated me to get to a range.
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Any 2A content that displays safe and educational content should be celebrated. PSR has done loads for the 3D2A community and overall a great dude. I’m genuinely disgusted you feel self conscious enough to call out a fellow 2A TH-camr as childish. You owe not only PSR a public apology but the entire 2A community. *spits*
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You should run those long range drills twice in a row. That way you can learn what you're doing wrong.. Make the adjustments and learn what fixes it. So that way when you're in that scenario again, you already know how to fix your setup on the fly and/or what adjustments to make. Because you've not only been there before and seen that problem before-- but you've also seen the solution.
I inadvertently discovered that an MP5 zeroed at 11 yards was actually pretty darn close at 300.
Imagine how much faster you could be with the SPR type builds at range with a higher magnification BDC reticle scope like the ACSS HUD DMR reticle in some of Primary Arms scopes. Leupold had something similar in their Mark 8 line of scopes. You wouldn't have to dial the scopes and most of those reticles give you a rough means of range estimation and windage and bullet drop estimation. I love my 4-14x44 on my 20" AR.
Damn youre getting roasted. Well i hadnt heard of you before or PSR but now im subscribed to him😂
I use BA 223W 14.5 Premium Black Series Barrel , EXPS2-2 and Vortex MICRO 3x MAGNIFIER is what I shoot in 2Gun Matches . I'm pretty good with this setup 500Y and in . Depending on size of target I can usually get first round hits from 100 - 300Y .
I was using EXPS3 and did well with that optic. EXPS2-2 was game changer for me . First dot is 50Y and second dot is 460Y . My in between first and second dot is 360Y.
At the last 2Gun Match it took me 6 rounds in total to get 2 hits on reduced C zone at 475Y with 15mph wind..
Feel like a 11.5-12.5 GPR with LPVO+Red Dot and a nice bolt gun setup on the side is a better combo than an SPR. Feel like the SPR is the one that’s out of place where the CQB abilities suffer and the distance shooting is good but not great. But I guess from a “build 1 gun and that’s all you get” standpoint, I could see an SPR being fine.
There’s no place for a 308 bolt gun in modern fighting. That’s why the military has gone to magnums and all 308s are gas guns. The gas guns are just faster. Harder to shoot but in the context it’s not wise to shoot a 308 bolt gun against a 308 gas gun at 4-500 600 yards. If you don’t care and it’s just for hunting and hobby precision sure. I might do that myself. But if we want to fight with that 308. It needs to be a gas gun. Trust me. I’d love for it to be 30, 40, 50 years ago and the bolt gun is what it was cause the m14 kinda sucked. But. Just my opinion.
@@thomasmarchese2808 umm..the MRAD has a 308 option. The enemy can see those casings flying around
I find bolt rifles to be pointless these days. If you look at the prices for new bolt rifles they are just as much $ as a new auto loading rifle 😂😅
Bolt guns rarely break.
11.5”-12.5” Commando suppressed is the way to go, especially in a more capable cartridge like Grendel. Punches the steel really hard so there’s no doubt when you hit it like there is with anemic 5.56 once you get to 400yds. 10.5” Grendel makes the 18” 5.56 seem wimpy, because it is. I do love the gas system and BCG smoothness of 18” RLGS 5.56, but Grendel is also a pussycat to shoot. I tune them with Bootleg Adjustable carriers and extra power action springs. Too easy.
The ideal truck gun is a 16" with a MPVO and a piggyback because being able to outrange/outpace your enemy is better than going as short as possible just to get some more maneuverability in my opinion.
Have an old bushmaster 6.8spc with good glass. That's about as dmr/spr as I get.
Thank you very much for this video !
Wow, that Munitionworks ™️ upper sure is neato. I'd be even more sold on one if the builder was literally a frog PFP.
Well then, have I got some good news for you! xD
Great video! I like the idea of a 16" barrel with a 4-16 atacr with piggyback red dot. If it's a bullpup then you can add the suppressor with less penalties.
The people mad about PSR have to be children.
I still don’t even know who “PSR” is.
I really enjoyed this video. I’d love to see more run n gun scenarios with spr’s. Most spr content is from the prone
Curious on peoples thoughts about this: Instead of building out multiple rifles, why not build out multiple uppers and share the lower?
Lowers are what’s likely to be banned as they’re the serialized part. Buy more lowers. Mags too
@@jackcoakley2848 The lower receiver is what I need to tell the Gov't I'm buying. Everything else I do not. When's the last time someone's said, "My lower receiver is worn out".
@@Roxas13XIII what if you need to arm the neighborhood? Are you going to tell them to "share"? Get some more lowers before the Supreme court goes liberal. Then its time for "you go to war with what you got".
That’s fine and all, until your one lower has an issue and now you’re out the fight. Have multiples of everything. 2 is 1 and 1 is none.
@@Roxas13XIII I've seen pin holes wear on lowers to be fair, but yeah of course uppers wear more
Fun fact: Shorts barrels are more accurate by nature. But, of course hindered by range. Most of us will never be shooting past 300 yards for ANY situation. 13.9-14.5 more than good for one gun. 11.5 isn't bad for that distant really. If you can shoot that far with 18-20", you can do it with 11.5. Glass is where size matters most for that stuff
PSR for the win. That's is what is wrong with society nowadays. When I was growing up people didn't get all emotional when someone had a different opinion. Instead we respected them and their right to their own point of view. Gone are the days of true learning thru non-emotional educational debates.
Love this content
Lucas ''No Fun while I'm around'' Botkins AKA the type that will call the police to confiscate your firearms if he finds out you like 3D printers.
I agree with this. A jack of all trades gun is kinda possible, but you're better off gettin a MK18/Shorty with a red dot on it and then get a SPR like a MK12 with a scope. If you're going to throw a scope on a 14.5 inch AR you might as well just get a MK12.
Gonna start calling you "Larpin Lukas"
I’m actually impressed you kept the misses in.
they always do
honestly i find PSR's content far more serious than you larping about.
Awesome comparison. Wonder if a sfp lpvo would have faired better at distance. Finer reticle.
WHY HIS JEANS SO TIGHT. 100% thinks he’s so mf tactical 😂
I just couldn't decide what set up I wanted more, so I said fuck it and went with a 13.9 P&W "SPR" build. Still a work in progress in terms of accessorizing it how I would like, but overall pretty happy with it for my area/use case
Only on this video to leave a comment regarding psr. You done fucked up brotha
perfect timing, i was literally just trying to figure out where to blow some extra money and if it'd be worth it to build an accurate AR15
Can you imagine getting paid to do this?
It's truly a blessing.
I have an 11.5 with an lpvo Wich everyone gives me shit for but the first time I was able to shoot past 150 i was able to get first round and consistent impacts on 8in plates at 3&400 yards using 4dof and 75 & 77 gr AAC when you know exactly what your bullet is going to do it makes it easier
Yup. 11.5” suppressed with more modern bullets does better than people might think. 70gr Berger is great, as is the 77gr Nosler RDF. That Nosler RDF will take you to 900yds supersonic at sea level/59˚F from the 11.5” barrel. Works a lot better out to 550yds though for wind drift. I run LPVOs on 8.5”, 10.5”, and 12” Grendels. Very appropriate, especially the new wave of really compact LPVOs in 1-8x24 and 1-10x24. I’m making repeated, predictable hits at 780-800yds with the 12” Grendel with factory 123gr ELD-M and 110gr PPU.
Just like a Miata, the answer is always AR-15
An interesting comparison would be a civilian M16 build with an ACOG vs an SPR.
Barely anyone uses m16 clones anymore, would be a waste of time most likely