Excellent teaching! I was saved out of new age on June 17th, 2021. I didn’t know that I was in a cult. About 6 months ago God saved me out of Calvinism. I did not know that I was being influenced by this teaching either. They both snuck in on me under my radar. The Holy Spirit will lead us into truth. I pray everyday to see God’s truth through His eyes and hear His truth through His ears. He is faithful!!
Thank you so much! Sometimes I sit and hang my head in frustration and wonder over people who believe in Calvinism...which I think was partly a result of not understanding right division and the ministry of Christ to the Circumcision. ...I think to myself.....why me God?...And then can only praise Him for His amazing Grace which saved a wretch like me. Peace and Grace to you, so glad I can learn these truths with you, never gets old.
Yes my dear brother! I know how you feel . My family had a dear patriark that succumed to that devilish doctrine. Bringing much shame To the God of love.
Thank you, Really appreciated this sermon. It all makes sense when it is explained in light of the Bible. I set my emotions aside and listen to reason. I live in a small mountain community and very difficult to get sound biblical teaching.
This really helped me understand the doctrinal issues...add into the mix their belief that there is no Millennial reign, no Tribulation, no 70th week, replacement theology, spiritualizing so much of Scripture and generally not seeking to allow Scripture to interpret Scripture and it feels nearly impossible to break through with Rightly Dividing Dispensational teaching! And yet, they are our brothers and sisters in Christ and they are loved. I truly feel so blessed right now...an amazing gift it is to understand God's purposes in Prophecy and Mystery!!
Am I understanding you correctly or not, are you implying/saying that Calvinists embrace Covenant Theology? I'm asking because what you just described above is Covenant Theology.
Excellent! Really appreciate the study! Do you happen to have outlines ? My brother been a Calvinist for years. We used to debate. Years ago. But we just stopped. Trying to figure out what would be the best way to show him this information.
Correct period since the beginning of time and Before Time period all beings whether they be angel or not have always had the ability of free will. I 100% agree with you this is a very good video
At the end of the day.... Calvinism damns to hell, or gives heaven's reward, to all of God's created beings. At the same time it gives them absolutely no say in the matter, either way. I love Jesus Christ and he loves me. What a Savior! I'm not a robot.
The scripture that states “He will abide faithful is merely saying that God will remain faithful to His word. His word of salvation is for those who believe. Believe is a continuous belief in the Greek, not a one time belief. That is sometimes hard for us English speaking people to grasp. We must interpret the original in meaning as well as in word. So we must continue to the end as scripture clearly teaches. So as long as we abide in Christ we are secure because faith in Him is our security. Luke 9:62 2And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch I appreciate your teaching on Calvinism and totally agree with you. But the eternal security people have the same problem that the Calvinist have. They only choose select scriptures and ignore the many that contradict them. So here are a few that contradict eternal security as you believe it. As I said I do believe in eternal security as long as you continue to believe. So it’s not that I deny eternal security I just see it differently because of all the warnings in scripture against falling away. Here are the scriptures Eternal security Acts 27:31 abide in the ship 2 Timothy 2:12 deny us Philippians 2:12 work out salvation Hebrews 10:26,27 sin deliberately Romans 11:20-24 cut off, unbelief James 1:27. Polluted by world Mark 9:43-48 foot, hand, eye 2 Timothy 4:7 kept the faith Hebrews 3:14 if we hold steadfast Colossians 1:22,23 if you continue John 8:31,32 if you hold Matthew 6:15. Forgive others Matthew 18:29-35 unforgiveness 2 Peter 1:10,11. Election sure 2 Cor. 3:14,16 The veil is taken away John 20:27 unbelieving, believing 1 Corinthians 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached. Hebrews 12:15 Be careful that no one falls short of the grace of God. 1 Tomothy 4:1-5 Depart from the faith. James 1:12. Endure temptation. The Bible must be taken as a whole and all scriptures pertaining to a particular subject must be considered, and sometimes blended together to get the whole meaning. For example God is one, but there is also mentioned the Father and the Son and the Spirit. So that is why we have the trinity, the three in one. We shouldn’t be arguing with one side saying God is One, and the other side saying God is three. It’s simply both because that is what the whole scriptures teach.
@@mrnoedahl The reason you come to the conclusion you have on eternal security (not being eternal) is because you are picking and choosing scriptures that do not apply to the body of Christ to support your position. Romans through Philemon contain what applies directly to the body of Christ. Study those to understand eternal security.
Yes the Calvinist god is merciful by punishing by torture those he forced to commit the very sins he came up with! Good job Baucham Sproul, Calvin, MacArthur, Washer, Piper. No wonder millions flock to the merciful Calvin god! The real God of Creation said this of His love for all man and the Created Universe. Psalms 145:9 The Lord is good to ALL; he has compassion on ALL he has made. Little different from the evil cruel god of calvinism isn't it? The real Jesus said in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. Calvinist god followers say that their god blinds the eyes of the Non-elect so they cannot see or understand the gospel. Yet it is they who have been blinded by Satan. Satan has blinded the eyes of those who are perishing. Satan leads the whole World astray. Nothing makes people hate God faster than Calvinism. Nothing turns people into Atheists faster than Calvinism! Nothing kills hope and love faster than Calvinism! Yet they are wise in their own eyes and lost in their souls and hearts.They gather around themselves those who speak the same lie! Wake up and turn to God who loves you . "Repent and be Baptized before your life is spent and there is no more hope for you! This can be the day of your salvation. In Love!
Many years ago I had to come to grips with this subject. I can't for the life of me see any value to this doctrine.@40:00 Matt: 23:37 I am sothankful to KNOW this doctrine is false and Jesus Christ is a Just, Loving, and Gracious, Savior.
Great job. But you need to use the proof text that the Calvinist use, because they do have some scriptures to their advantage. But taken as a whole Calvinism is unbiblical.
The most important question is, if a person has put their belief and faith in the death, burial, resurrection, and cross work of Christ, can that person still be saved if that belief is based on the false gospel of Calvinism? I sure hope so or there are going to be millions of people that put their faith in Christ for their salvation that are going to be very surprised when they die. Hopefully the blood of Christ will cover the sin of this belief and they will be saved. It will be left up to God to untangle this mess.
Your statement is based on ignorance. The five points is not a salvation issue. No Calvinist denies believing the gospel to be saved - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
@stevie6621, you say that no Calvinist denies believing the gospel to be saved and you cite 1 Corinthians 151-4. Maybe I could be considered ignorant as well, but I am truly wondering what percentage of Christians, (not just those who claim to be Calvinists) even know what the gospel of their salvation is and where to find it in their Bible. My guess is that, sadly, it is a very low percentage. It does not help that in many churches, there are people sitting comfortably and unquestioningly, under the doctrines of stealth Calvinism and are totally unaware of it, and those who are aware of it refuse to let it bother them. Now that's ignorance.
@@AS-jr3so Salvation is laid out in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and Romans 3. I agree Christians are a very low percentage. Easily less than 1% of the entire population.
@stevie6621 I think you may have misread or misunderstood what I said. I wasn't talking about percentages of Christians, I was talking about percentages of Christians who know what the gospel of salvation is and where they find it. I've asked Christians what the gospel is and where to find it and the answers are quite varied. There's no excuse for it other than ignorance, or relying on negligent teaching.
@@stevie6621 Does that apply to a Lordship salvation person as well? Since many of the Calvinist believe you must show or perform works to be saved, and endure to the end, do you believe that also is a non salvation issue? There are many in Christendom ie, catholics, 7th day advent's, church of Christ, etc, that believe a person has to do certain things along with belief, faith, trust, in the cross work of Christ to be saved. I am assuming you are versed in the book of Galatians where Paul says that if one mixes grace and works, Christ shall profit you nothing! Gal 5: 1-4
At the end of the day Calvinist are no more secure in their salvation than the Armenian, for Calvinist look to works as evidence of their election. In the same manor while they preach a Grace alone message once again it is works that is the evidence of their believed election. We contend that by hearing and believing we are saved a clear choice. Yes we have free will within God's Sovereign will.
This the usual rebuttal stuff. Not very deep. As far as total depravity, it says whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord. Yes that's true. And those who call upon the name of the Lord are the ones God has given faith to. Ephesians 2:8 says For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God. Our job is to preach the good news. Whose ears it falls on is up to God to work his wonders. Like Jesus said, many are called but few are chosen. I have been looking for a long time scripture to disprove Calvinism and I still can't find it. I want to but I can't find it. As far as unconditional election, Romans 9 is Paul's answer to people's question about if it's fair of God to choose some and not others. As far as limited atonement, John 10:15 talks about how Jesus is laying down his life for his sheep. A few verses later and John 10:26, Jesus says to the Jews there you are not my sheep. Obviously Jesus only lays his life down for his sheep, not everybody. A lot of people use John 3:16 to say that Jesus died for everybody. But at closer inspection Nicodemus is only containing what he's saying to the Jews but Jesus is saying that God so loved the world not just the Jews. He's not saying everybody. John the Apostle uses the word world in many different ways.
You're not rightly dividing the scriptures. Jesus had an earthly ministry to the Jewish nation. We today know no man after the flesh. We know the risen, ascended Christ through the ministry given to the apostle Paul, his epistles Romans through Philemon.
You can refute Calvin. ....and rightfully so, seeing what he did to Servetus. But the truth about God's sovereignty and election and predestination you can not refute. In doing so, you discard the Word(truth) of God. And that is not the way of a true Christian. We must receive ALL His word, every jot and tittle. We have been warned. No sinner can come unto Jesus unless the Spirit of God draws him. (John 6:44) .....no one is seeking God. (Romans 3:11) Mercy must be extended from On High, to believe and to repent. (Ephesians 2:8-9 / 2 Timothy 2:25) Flesh contributes nothing. (John 6:63) God does the work of grace, from A to Z. ...and so He gets ALL the glory, praise and thanks. By claiming that you did something to be saved, you can glory in that. But it is a lie. It is called "Delusional". “I believe that nothing happens apart from divine determination and decree. We shall never be able to escape from the doctrine of divine predestination - the doctrine that God has foreordained certain people unto eternal life.” - Charles H. Spurgeon “We talk about predestination because the Bible talks about predestination. If we desire to build our theology on the Bible, we run head on into this concept. We soon discover that John Calvin did not invent it.” - R.C. Sproul "You did not choose Me, but I chose you." - Jesus the Messiah
Unfortunately you have chosen to believe and follow what other men have taught, even though the teachings are clearly contrary to the word of God. This video refutes your beliefs by clearly presenting scriptural proofs and yet you choose to deny it.
@@davidveltum6730 No, I look to the Word of God. "those who have been chosen of God" (Colossians 3:12) (Titus 1:1) "Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity." (2 Timothy 1:9) "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him." (Ephesians 1:3) "In love He predestined us to adoption as Sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the beloved." (Ephesians 1:4) "He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other." (Matthew 24:31) "will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and night, and will He delay long over them?" (Luke 18:6-7) "Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies." (Romans 8:33) "we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth." (2 Thessalonians 2:13) "you are a holy people to YHVH your God; YHVH your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth." (Deuteronomy 7:7) "In him also we have received an inheritance [a destiny-we were claimed by God as His own], having been predestined (chosen, appointed beforehand) according to the purpose of Him who works everything in agreement with the counsel and design of His will." (Ephesians 1:11-12) "For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that he would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified." (Romans 8:29-30) "Chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father." (1 Peter 1:1) "This is the will of Him who sent me, that of all that He has given me I lose not even one." - Jesus the Messiah (John 6:39) This man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put him to death." (Acts 2:23)
@@pv2duke So, you are just going to dismiss all the verses that I posted? As if that is not the Word of God ? You can NOT nullify the Word using the Word, It all fits together. There is no contradiction in God. Only it appears to be so if our understanding of It is lacking.
@@bosse641 You are not using right division. You are pulling scriptures from outside Romans through Philemon as proof text to support your faulty belief system. We know no man after the flesh today. We, the body of Christ, follow the risen, ascended Christ by following Paul, our apostle. Christ is our head, we are the body. Find our "mail" in Romans through Philemon.
It's amazing how your argument against calvinism is your argument for eternal security. Calvinism= God seals you for salvation before the foundation of the world. No we have free will. Eternal Security= God seals your salvation even if you depart from the faith(this you said in another video), yes God is sovereign! Lol 😆 🤣 😂 What's the diff between unconditional election and unconditional salvation. Unconditional salvation is nothing but Roman Catholic theology. If I perform this ritual, ie, recite sinners prayer, ask Jesus into your heart, then God must save me because I said the right chant. It treats salvation like a gumball machine. Put in a quarter get a gumball. Put in a prayer, get a salvation.
Notice, he never dealt with the verses cited by Calvinists. He just rattled off what he thinks. Until he interacts with Calvinists' arguments, he hasn't even entered the game.
Notice, he quoted the very words of Calvinists themselves and disproved their teaching from the scriptures. He didn't rattle off what he thinks -- he quoted verse after verse disproving the Calvinist position.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch, That’s not how debate works. You’re trying to tear off tiles on the roof of a house while the foundation remains perfectly intact. Your video will never, and I mean never, cause an actually Calvinist to doubt or reconsider. Your video is just red meat for those who argue against God’s sovereignty in the exact same way Paul’s opponent in Romans 9 argued against God’s sovereignty. But hey, if you’re content to just rile up your fanbase and not actually interact with Scripture, then so be it.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch, Spoken like a true KJV onlyist. Which word are you defining as “debate”? Adikia? That means unrighteousness or injustice. Ponēria? That means wickedness. Pleonexia? That means covetousness. Kakia? That means evil or malice. Phthonou? That means envy. Phonou? That means murder. Eridos? That means contention, not debate. Dolou? That means deceit. Kakoēetheias? That means evil-mindedness or malevolence. Psithuristas? That means gossip. There’s actually a word for “debate” in Greek, zētēsis. So, what verse can you cite that actually condemns debate?
Excellent teaching! I was saved out of new age on June 17th, 2021. I didn’t know that I was in a cult. About 6 months ago God saved me out of Calvinism. I did not know that I was being influenced by this teaching either. They both snuck in on me under my radar.
The Holy Spirit will lead us into truth. I pray everyday to see God’s truth through His eyes and hear His truth through His ears. He is faithful!!
Thank you so much! Sometimes I sit and hang my head in frustration and wonder over people who believe in Calvinism...which I think was partly a result of not understanding right division and the ministry of Christ to the Circumcision. ...I think to myself.....why me God?...And then can only praise Him for His amazing Grace which saved a wretch like me. Peace and Grace to you, so glad I can learn these truths with you, never gets old.
Yes my dear brother! I know how you feel . My family had a dear patriark that succumed to that devilish doctrine. Bringing much shame To the God of love.
Thank you, Really appreciated this sermon. It all makes sense when it is explained in light of the Bible. I set my emotions aside and listen to reason. I live in a small mountain community and very difficult to get sound biblical teaching.
A wonderful study! Praise be to God for this resource (CBC) being available to edify the body.
Thank you for this great explaination.
Good work David, teacher of teachers'.
This really helped me understand the doctrinal issues...add into the mix their belief that there is no Millennial reign, no Tribulation, no 70th week, replacement theology, spiritualizing so much of Scripture and generally not seeking to allow Scripture to interpret Scripture and it feels nearly impossible to break through with Rightly Dividing Dispensational teaching!
And yet, they are our brothers and sisters in Christ and they are loved.
I truly feel so blessed right now...an amazing gift it is to understand God's purposes in Prophecy and Mystery!!
Am I understanding you correctly or not, are you implying/saying that Calvinists embrace Covenant Theology? I'm asking because what you just described above is Covenant Theology.
I really love these Q & A’s brother grace and peace to you and your family.
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jesus calvin is who they follow! Like the TRUE CHRIST JESUS said “many will say “ I am the christ “
Thanks for another blessed time in studying the scriptures. Keep pressing on Saints, God bless you all as you study.
Thanks for the kind words!
Amen, Amen 🙏
I look forward to listening to this today. 😊👏🏻🌸
They will quote rom 9:18-20 when defending that it is God's will who is saved
We get into this predicament of diversion and confusion when we don't just simply come "with faith as a child!" Matthew 18:3; Mark 10:14; Luke 18:17)
Excellent! Really appreciate the study! Do you happen to have outlines ? My brother been a Calvinist for years. We used to debate. Years ago. But we just stopped. Trying to figure out what would be the best way to show him this information.
Correct period since the beginning of time and Before Time period all beings whether they be angel or not have always had the ability of free will. I 100% agree with you this is a very good video
Thanks!
My mother is devout Calvinist and I am not, I do not believe in election to me it’s somewhat prideful, thank you for these scriptures ✝️
At the end of the day.... Calvinism damns to hell, or gives heaven's reward, to all of God's created beings. At the same time it gives them absolutely no say in the matter, either way. I love Jesus Christ and he loves me. What a Savior! I'm not a robot.
Paul writes of obedience
But he says obedience TO the faith.
The scripture that states “He will abide faithful is merely saying that God will remain faithful to His word. His word of salvation is for those who believe. Believe is a continuous belief in the Greek, not a one time belief. That is sometimes hard for us English speaking people to grasp. We must interpret the original in meaning as well as in word. So we must continue to the end as scripture clearly teaches. So as long as we abide in Christ we are secure because faith in Him is our security.
Luke 9:62
2And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
The idea that continuous belief is required is disproved by both Eph 1:13-14 and 2Tim 2:13.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch I appreciate your teaching on Calvinism and totally agree with you. But the eternal security people have the same problem that the Calvinist have. They only choose select scriptures and ignore the many that contradict them. So here are a few that contradict eternal security as you believe it. As I said I do believe in eternal security as long as you continue to believe. So it’s not that I deny eternal security I just see it differently because of all the warnings in scripture against falling away. Here are the scriptures
Eternal security
Acts 27:31 abide in the ship
2 Timothy 2:12 deny us
Philippians 2:12 work out salvation
Hebrews 10:26,27 sin deliberately
Romans 11:20-24 cut off, unbelief
James 1:27. Polluted by world
Mark 9:43-48 foot, hand, eye
2 Timothy 4:7 kept the faith
Hebrews 3:14 if we hold steadfast
Colossians 1:22,23 if you continue
John 8:31,32 if you hold
Matthew 6:15. Forgive others
Matthew 18:29-35 unforgiveness
2 Peter 1:10,11. Election sure
2 Cor. 3:14,16 The veil is taken away
John 20:27 unbelieving, believing
1 Corinthians 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached.
Hebrews 12:15 Be careful that no one falls short of the grace of God.
1 Tomothy 4:1-5 Depart from the faith.
James 1:12. Endure temptation.
The Bible must be taken as a whole and all scriptures pertaining to a particular subject must be considered, and sometimes blended together to get the whole meaning. For example God is one, but there is also mentioned the Father and the Son and the Spirit. So that is why we have the trinity, the three in one.
We shouldn’t be arguing with one side saying God is One, and the other side saying God is three. It’s simply both because that is what the whole scriptures teach.
@@mrnoedahl The reason you come to the conclusion you have on eternal security (not being eternal) is because you are picking and choosing scriptures that do not apply to the body of Christ to support your position. Romans through Philemon contain what applies directly to the body of Christ. Study those to understand eternal security.
Yes the Calvinist god is merciful by punishing by torture those he forced to commit the very sins he came up with! Good job Baucham Sproul, Calvin, MacArthur, Washer, Piper. No wonder millions flock to the merciful Calvin god!
The real God of Creation said this of His love for all man and the Created Universe.
Psalms 145:9 The Lord is good to ALL; he has compassion on ALL he has made.
Little different from the evil cruel god of calvinism isn't it?
The real Jesus said in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Calvinist god followers say that their god blinds the eyes of the Non-elect so they cannot see or understand the gospel. Yet it is they who have been blinded by Satan. Satan has blinded the eyes of those who are perishing. Satan leads the whole World astray.
Nothing makes people hate God faster than Calvinism.
Nothing turns people into Atheists faster than Calvinism!
Nothing kills hope and love faster than Calvinism!
Yet they are wise in their own eyes and lost in their souls and hearts.They gather around themselves those who speak the same lie!
Wake up and turn to God who loves you . "Repent and be Baptized before your life is spent and there is no more hope for you!
This can be the day of your salvation.
In Love!
Many years ago I had to come to grips with this subject. I can't for the life of me see any value to this doctrine.@40:00 Matt: 23:37 I am sothankful to KNOW this doctrine is false and Jesus Christ is a Just, Loving, and Gracious, Savior.
You disagree with, "God can do anything that he wants", what about Judas? cf Jn 6:70-71...
John 6:44; No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. Do a study on the word CALL.
The Westminster quote is illogical since if there was no fall there would be no need for a gospel!
Great job. But you need to use the proof text that the Calvinist use, because they do have some scriptures to their advantage. But taken as a whole Calvinism is unbiblical.
The most important question is, if a person has put their belief and faith in the death, burial, resurrection, and cross work of Christ, can that person still be saved if that belief is based on the false gospel of Calvinism? I sure hope so or there are going to be millions of people that put their faith in Christ for their salvation that are going to be very surprised when they die. Hopefully the blood of Christ will cover the sin of this belief and they will be saved. It will be left up to God to untangle this mess.
Your statement is based on ignorance. The five points is not a salvation issue. No Calvinist denies believing the gospel to be saved - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
@stevie6621, you say that no Calvinist denies believing the gospel to be saved and you cite 1 Corinthians 151-4. Maybe I could be considered ignorant as well, but I am truly wondering what percentage of Christians, (not just those who claim to be Calvinists) even know what the gospel of their salvation is and where to find it in their Bible. My guess is that, sadly, it is a very low percentage. It does not help that in many churches, there are people sitting comfortably and unquestioningly, under the doctrines of stealth Calvinism and are totally unaware of it, and those who are aware of it refuse to let it bother them. Now that's ignorance.
@@AS-jr3so Salvation is laid out in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and Romans 3. I agree Christians are a very low percentage. Easily less than 1% of the entire population.
@stevie6621 I think you may have misread or misunderstood what I said. I wasn't talking about percentages of Christians, I was talking about percentages of Christians who know what the gospel of salvation is and where they find it. I've asked Christians what the gospel is and where to find it and the answers are quite varied. There's no excuse for it other than ignorance, or relying on negligent teaching.
@@stevie6621 Does that apply to a Lordship salvation person as well? Since many of the Calvinist believe you must show or perform works to be saved, and endure to the end, do you believe that also is a non salvation issue? There are many in Christendom ie, catholics, 7th day advent's, church of Christ, etc, that believe a person has to do certain things along with belief, faith, trust, in the cross work of Christ to be saved. I am assuming you are versed in the book of Galatians where Paul says that if one mixes grace and works, Christ shall profit you nothing! Gal 5: 1-4
At the end of the day Calvinist are no more secure in their salvation than the Armenian, for Calvinist look to works as evidence of their election. In the same manor while they preach a Grace alone message once again it is works that is the evidence of their believed election. We contend that by hearing and believing we are saved a clear choice. Yes we have free will within God's Sovereign will.
This the usual rebuttal stuff. Not very deep. As far as total depravity, it says whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord. Yes that's true. And those who call upon the name of the Lord are the ones God has given faith to. Ephesians 2:8 says For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God. Our job is to preach the good news. Whose ears it falls on is up to God to work his wonders. Like Jesus said, many are called but few are chosen. I have been looking for a long time scripture to disprove Calvinism and I still can't find it. I want to but I can't find it. As far as unconditional election, Romans 9 is Paul's answer to people's question about if it's fair of God to choose some and not others. As far as limited atonement, John 10:15 talks about how Jesus is laying down his life for his sheep. A few verses later and John 10:26, Jesus says to the Jews there you are not my sheep. Obviously Jesus only lays his life down for his sheep, not everybody. A lot of people use John 3:16 to say that Jesus died for everybody. But at closer inspection Nicodemus is only containing what he's saying to the Jews but Jesus is saying that God so loved the world not just the Jews. He's not saying everybody. John the Apostle uses the word world in many different ways.
Maybe James you didn't listen to this message and just came here to make your point.
Listen again with an open mind.
You're not rightly dividing the scriptures. Jesus had an earthly ministry to the Jewish nation. We today know no man after the flesh. We know the risen, ascended Christ through the ministry given to the apostle Paul, his epistles Romans through Philemon.
You can refute Calvin. ....and rightfully so, seeing what he did to Servetus. But the truth about God's sovereignty and election and predestination you can not refute. In doing so, you discard the Word(truth) of God. And that is not the way of a true Christian. We must receive ALL His word, every jot and tittle. We have been warned.
No sinner can come unto Jesus unless the Spirit of God draws him. (John 6:44)
.....no one is seeking God. (Romans 3:11)
Mercy must be extended from On High, to believe and to repent. (Ephesians 2:8-9 / 2 Timothy 2:25)
Flesh contributes nothing. (John 6:63) God does the work of grace, from A to Z. ...and so He gets
ALL the glory, praise and thanks.
By claiming that you did something to be saved, you can glory in that. But it is a lie. It is called "Delusional".
“I believe that nothing happens apart from divine determination and decree. We shall never be able to escape from the doctrine of divine predestination - the doctrine that God has foreordained certain people unto eternal life.” - Charles H. Spurgeon
“We talk about predestination because the Bible talks about predestination. If we desire to build our theology on the Bible, we run head on into this concept. We soon discover that John Calvin did not invent it.” - R.C. Sproul
"You did not choose Me, but I chose you." - Jesus the Messiah
Unfortunately you have chosen to believe and follow what other men have taught, even though the teachings are clearly contrary to the word of God. This video refutes your beliefs by clearly presenting scriptural proofs and yet you choose to deny it.
@@davidveltum6730 No, I look to the Word of God.
"those who have been chosen of God" (Colossians 3:12) (Titus 1:1)
"Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own
purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity." (2 Timothy 1:9)
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in
the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him." (Ephesians 1:3)
"In love He predestined us to adoption as Sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind
intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the beloved." (Ephesians 1:4)
"He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four
winds, from one end of the sky to the other." (Matthew 24:31)
"will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and night, and will He delay long over
them?" (Luke 18:6-7)
"Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies." (Romans 8:33)
"we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from
the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth."
(2 Thessalonians 2:13)
"you are a holy people to YHVH your God; YHVH your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession
out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth." (Deuteronomy 7:7)
"In him also we have received an inheritance [a destiny-we were claimed by God as His own], having been
predestined (chosen, appointed beforehand) according to the purpose of Him who works everything in agreement with the counsel and design of His will." (Ephesians 1:11-12)
"For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that he
would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified." (Romans 8:29-30)
"Chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father." (1 Peter 1:1)
"This is the will of Him who sent me, that of all that He has given me I lose not even one."
- Jesus the Messiah (John 6:39)
This man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the
hands of godless men and put him to death." (Acts 2:23)
He literally debunked the entire system and you still can’t let go. Good grief.
@@pv2duke So, you are just going to dismiss all the verses that I posted? As if that is not the Word of God ? You can NOT nullify the Word using the Word, It all fits together. There is no contradiction in God. Only it appears to be so if our understanding of It is lacking.
@@bosse641 You are not using right division. You are pulling scriptures from outside Romans through Philemon as proof text to support your faulty belief system. We know no man after the flesh today. We, the body of Christ, follow the risen, ascended Christ by following Paul, our apostle. Christ is our head, we are the body. Find our "mail" in Romans through Philemon.
It's amazing how your argument against calvinism is your argument for eternal security. Calvinism= God seals you for salvation before the foundation of the world. No we have free will. Eternal Security= God seals your salvation even if you depart from the faith(this you said in another video), yes God is sovereign! Lol 😆 🤣 😂 What's the diff between unconditional election and unconditional salvation. Unconditional salvation is nothing but Roman Catholic theology. If I perform this ritual, ie, recite sinners prayer, ask Jesus into your heart, then God must save me because I said the right chant. It treats salvation like a gumball machine. Put in a quarter get a gumball. Put in a prayer, get a salvation.
Notice, he never dealt with the verses cited by Calvinists. He just rattled off what he thinks. Until he interacts with Calvinists' arguments, he hasn't even entered the game.
Notice, he quoted the very words of Calvinists themselves and disproved their teaching from the scriptures. He didn't rattle off what he thinks -- he quoted verse after verse disproving the Calvinist position.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch,
That’s not how debate works. You’re trying to tear off tiles on the roof of a house while the foundation remains perfectly intact. Your video will never, and I mean never, cause an actually Calvinist to doubt or reconsider. Your video is just red meat for those who argue against God’s sovereignty in the exact same way Paul’s opponent in Romans 9 argued against God’s sovereignty. But hey, if you’re content to just rile up your fanbase and not actually interact with Scripture, then so be it.
I am not interested in debate as scripture describes it as unrighteousness (Rom 1:29).
@@ColumbusBibleChurch,
Spoken like a true KJV onlyist. Which word are you defining as “debate”? Adikia? That means unrighteousness or injustice. Ponēria? That means wickedness. Pleonexia? That means covetousness. Kakia? That means evil or malice. Phthonou? That means envy. Phonou? That means murder. Eridos? That means contention, not debate. Dolou? That means deceit. Kakoēetheias? That means evil-mindedness or malevolence. Psithuristas? That means gossip. There’s actually a word for “debate” in Greek, zētēsis. So, what verse can you cite that actually condemns debate?
It is best to read the post one is responding to before one responds.