@@dbdb9334 While the Uk did not semd combat troops, they very much WERE present, acting as advisors to the south For Britain's involvement in the First Vietnam War, the officially stated casualty list was 40 British and Indian soldiers killed, don't know why they were put together though
*U.S Marine: Pulls out a small packet from his pouch* Want one? *U.K Soldier:* No thanks i don't smoke. *U.S Marine:* They're not cigarettes. *continues to munch on crayola crayons*
lol, but those aren't the original "crayons" where this started from. Guess if you really knew how the joke started you'd be jealous as heck. But you could always ask the lovely ladies of Alpha Delta Pi of UCLA, or anyone from 3rd Plt of Weapons Co 1/1.
M16A1: it's just teething issues! They didn't clean it well enough! Successive generations fixed the issue! L85A1: Same deal except hmyum crayons gun no work haha french surrender mnnngghhh etc
Our L129A1 is pretty much the same as the american AR OR M4 so not that bad for us. Getting to grips with the cocking handle on the right side of the weapon would be alien to a US soldier.
Thrillcekr I’m in the British cadets and I have done alot of shooting and it just becomes natural to reach over the weapon it doesn’t take long to get it
@@thebarch7594 becomes second nature, i had to get used to it in cadets 8 years ago, over the top was easier for me a few people would go under, plus we dont have a forward assist so its just slap on the charging handle. nothing like camp to get used to it plus using that an Lee enfields to pass your weopons handling drills.
@@climbingbow I was one of the last cadets generations (still part of it) who got to use the lee Enfield training rifle and I loved it hate the new one. And now we have got to do a forward assist and we must charge over the weapon or you will fail your a2 WHT.
US & UK: so we're going to practice manoeuvres where should we go? Germany: Poland. US & UK: good idea, we can practice an invasion. Germany: yes, practice....
I remember last year we did a big training exercise with the Brits, dudes are cool as shit and ALWAYS want KBARs and are willing to trade some of their shit for a KBAR. But we did this same thing, it all started out of my own curiosity. I asked them if I could look at their rifles and they were cool with it. So, I'm holding this thing up and I'm just like, "This thing is so fucking awkward..." and their response killed me, "Nah man, it isn't that bad." So I hand them my M4 and say, "Here, try this." They pass it around and they jokingly ask, "Shit man, we were wrong, we like this better. You wanna trade?" I'm going to absolutely honest with you and say, if that M4 was my personally owned weapon, I would of done it in a heart beat. Just to say that I have a legit British rifle. One dude traded me a Gerber for one of his Berets as well. The KBAR got me a Frog Top with patches, a beret, and one of the British Marine Pins that goes in the cover. Shit was cool, to say the least.
@Kaydzy I would imagine, you don't see bullpup rifles all that often in the states as it is. They're a dime a dozen. The legit rifles would for sure be hard to find, taking into consideration the 1986 Gun Ban Law. I'm not sure if you're American or not, so I'll just tell you anyhow... The 1986 law made it virtually impossible for any normal civilian to get an automatic or burst firearm, no matter what it is. If the gun was made prior to 1986, there are grandfather loopholes you can take, but can be risky. Otherwise, you can get a class B license and have no worries about it. Nonetheless, the L85 would still be a neat weapon to own, just to say you owned one. Similarly saying like a BAR, Tommy Gun, M60, etc.
@@j-greggo_laaa3736 It is still a section 5 firearm so only dealers, police and military can get them with it being a centre fire automatic rifle. Since Michael Ryan went on his killing spree in Hungerford in '87, they passed a law shortly afterward that all full bore automatic rifles would fall under section 5 of the firearms act. The only variant of the SA series you might get hold of is the L98A1 which makes the L85A1 look like the Rolls Royce of firearms!! We took 20 to the range back in 88 and came back with 4 that still worked!!
Gamer634 19 you trying really hard to somehow make Canada seem relevant when in reality no one in this planet gives a damn about Canada or is intimidated by their military.
I trained with the Brits from 3 Rifles and the first thing they said when I handed them my M4 WITH A 320, “Bloody Hell, this is light.” I still remember their reactions when we gave them the slick M4s, they were jealous of the weight difference lol.
@Aqua man My bad I misread the post ,but an m4 with an m320 is actually lighter than a l85A3 with full optics, and mag vs a fully loaded m4w/m320. So i guess we are both wrong here.
Aqua man Slightly heavier, not much heavier. With all their SUSAT sight and all their various other attachments, and probably it being a bullpup definitely made it seem heavier. Also, we were rocking the M320A1s for what that’s worth.
Aqua man My M4 was rocking the M68 optic, PEQ-15, and the M320A1. They were rocking whichever variant of their L85s, with the SUSAT sights, a good size laser attachment, tac-light, and a chunky foregrip. Overall, my M4 might be heavier, but definitely didn’t felt like it.
Aqua man By the way, this was the training exercise I took part in with the British troops in Fort Polk, Louisiana. th-cam.com/video/hWsZsid7HiY/w-d-xo.html
@@skeptical_mann1196 Spoken like someone who has never handled either the L85A2 or A3, come back when you dont spew BS rhetoric! L85A2 + A3 are solid tried and tested guns, only bullpup you dont need to disassemble to clear a jam/malfunction on, one of the only real fully modular bullpups, shorter overall length, lighter in weight compared to Ar15's with same firepower but go on please tell us more... P.s prior to the L85 we the British used FN FAL's which isnt a bullpup so not sure where your getting "parliaments obsession" from.
@A-a-ron They have, on its 4th iteration of the rifle, all bugs and issues have been smoothed out, tried and battle tested in 3 wars now, it built a bad reputation after 1st persian Gulf where it had many issues, most of the issues ironed out but still wasnt good enough so the gun was then handed to H&K who revamped it smoothed out and refined the design even further.
M16 is even prettier. In boot camp, we use the M16, as it's better suited for drill and bayonet training. Here's a pic, the M4 is the top, the M16 is on bottom, even though I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. gundigest.com/wp-content/uploads/FN-Military-Collector-Series_F6.jpg
@@Ranstone yeh I do see what you mean I like the more sold stock on the m16 but I really like the shorter barrel on the m4 makes the gun better for mobility were i feel the m16 would have the better accuracy.
I used the M4 a4 for 6 years in the infantry, cco pk14 and horizontal grip. Looooved that rifle (though i was a 50 gunner so i never actually shot it...) then i went to aviation and got an m16 a2 and hated my fucking life. The m4 is great because you can mod it to fit pretty much any mission/person. Though 5.56 is a not great round for fighting unarmored targets because the ballistics are so clean i can pass clean through w.o doing enough damage to kill/severely wound the target (as reported in vietnam when the switch over from m14 to m16 occurred.) M14 AMR is an amazing riffle that puts all others to shame in non urban ops imo.
In the 90s we had an combined shooting competition in Germany - I was part of the UK team, we had to fire the M16s un-sighted non optics. Iron sights. We beat the American team using their weapons in the team event. There were Dutch & German teams there also. It was a great time we all went out as a very large group at night and they even had a beer tent on the firing range.
It's become standard in the US military and by American civilians to try to leave your firing hand on those controls, to make weapon reloads and the like faster. It's an advantage. Also shows they haven't had to deal with AK pattern rifles.
Its counter intuitive at first. I can recall being prone wondering if it was just the British army being sadistic. You get used to it. Makes sense to keep hand on pistol grip as much as possible.
@@cavscout888 But that's his point, they weren't doing that, they were holding the front handguard with their left while taking their firing hand off the pistol grip to operate the rifle's controls. British manual of arms is to do everything with your left hand while holding the pistol grip with your right, the only issue is the designers put the controls everywhere on the rifle (on the left side under the sling, cocking handle on the right, etc) so you're constantly flying around the rifle with your left hand to do basic drills. BotR has a good video explaining the ergonomics and manual of arms th-cam.com/video/kGlEgxT1gpE/w-d-xo.html
@@G1NZOU It's the method in the US as well. Problem comes when some weapons are really hard to actually do that with. If something is difficult to do with an M16/M4, you're likely doing it wrong. Exception being locking the bolt back is about as wonky as charging an L85.
Bull pup has some advantages for modern military’s and also the brits have non bull pup weapons they train on the Americans have no standard bull pup firearm
Pffft once you've drilled it's just as easy, there's well known advantages to bullpups and discounting them based on lessons learned from civilian shooting is foolishness
GeneralAdvance exactly the advantages are you can have the same barrel length in a shorter overall firearm and you have more weight closer to the body making it easier to maneuver
@@GeneralAdvance it might be just as easy but it isn't just as fast, no way you could reload as quick and smooth as 1:50 with a bullpup. bullpups have some big advantages but they also have _a lot_ of disadvantages. there's a reason most militaries still use conventional rifles and some countries (france, NZ) have even moved away from bullpups.
@@xavierh.5102 a well-trained soldier who was used to the weapon COULD reload it just as fast, just lift the rifle up, change it then down again, one smooth fluid motion. But frankly if you're a decent enough shot the question wouldn't arise, 30 rounds in that magazine, if you've not hit what you're aiming at by the time it's empty you're not going to as the enemy certainly will have
@@seyedahmadseyedabdolahi5616 depends on the purpose and user. Regular troops, I would pick the ak in a heartbeat, special forces, or recon units, I would go m4.
@@ruzziasht349 yeah mate it's pointed out by the uniform. This video is cut together, we haven't seen how much time they've had with the weapon. As clean as he is, he may have practiced with the weapon more than the others, may be more naturally able to switch weapons. Either way he is smooth.
As soon as they handed the l85s over the british troops grabbed the US rifles and ran as fast as they could. knowing full well even if they managed to figure the gun out itd malfunction
@@carolusrex8488 I would not say that, but it is no where near as bad as people make out, not since the A2 was introduced. The A1 was terrible, but the A2 sorted almost all the issues. The two biggest ones the rifle has remaining is its weight (its a fat boy for a service rifle), and the fact that in urban environments it is impossible to switch shoulders unless you want your teeth caved in..... A lot of people hate it because they hate bullpups, and because they have heard the stories of the A1 and have it in their head that the A2 has not really changed much. I would not call it the best service rifle out there, but it is a long way from being the worst now.
@@alganhar1 The m16 model is way superior in everything the L85 has, and the M16 is not a stupid bullpup. Why do bullpups exist? Cause people cannot fire guns do they need to modefy them
This is golden! You never remember how quirky the L85 is the first time until you see someone fumbling with the cocking lever and dust cover lock switch!
I recall finding the hold-open on the L1A1 pretty awkward, and that's almost universally called a better rifle. The gas plug seems to defeat civilian firers though, based on vids on youtube.
kinda surprised that the comment section's still active, even more so that the uploader still responds. thanks for the footage lad, it's definitely appreciated!
"Why'd you need the goddurn magazine at the back red coats?" "Oi mate, we had to get 'eckler and koch to make this weapon because the first time we made it, it were shit weren't it?"
The Alright Tank Historian we did, accuracy international (and for that matter the Parker-Hale equivalent) are some of the best sharpshooter/ sniper rifles arround even the US uses them!
Definitely shows the difference in combat mentality between our boys, too. Slower, heavier and more deliberate 7.62 rounds (fewer shots fired but greater stopping power) vs the quick, lightweight and aggressive 5.56 (overwhelming show of force via a rain of bullets). The 5.56 is cheaper to produce, too.
FN FAL, semi auto developed by FN in Belgium and made under licence in Birmingham for the British army, Designated the L1A1 and just called SLR by squaddies. Argentina used the full auto version of the same rifle in the Falklands
Can we all appreciate how quickly at the end the instructor undid the safety so the student could fire dialed in instead of going "you dummy". And it was so quick
My favorite foreign military is definitely the Brits. Mainly because we speak the same language so we can fuck around together most effectively! Real talk though, it actually makes a lot of sense for allies to learn the ins and outs of each others weapon systems for effective combined operations.
This must be like taking your Fisher Price toys next door to play with the neighbour's kid and finding out you're an 18 year old man and they have a PS5.
It is as much cultural, the British as a whole do not feel the need to own weapons. However, it is far from impossible to do so. I personally shoot WWI and WWII rifles and own a fair few, including 2 SMLE no 1Mk III, a Lee Enfield No 4 mk I, a K98k, Enfield 1917 and a Greek mannlicher-schoenour. Not to mention the obligatory .22 LR target rifle and a .243 that my daughter uses. Yes, guns are regulated in the UK, and yes there are restrictions, but this idea they are illegal to own is not in fact the case. Anything up to .50 cal is legally ownable.
@@alganhar1 Can you explain something to me? Do you have to be in a gun club to own rifles bigger than .22? I'm a firearm owner from NI, and I want bigger calibre guns but I still don't know much about the gun laws/regulations. Want a handgun too, in NI that's legal but not in Britain.
Always found it weird the British military would settle on a bullpup that’s not ambidextrous. It would’ve been really cool for the left handed Americans to try out
Would have been interesting to get personal opinions on who thought of what for each service. Regardless I’m sure the beer and barbecue was flowing right after...more beer than bbq
honestly Americans dont hate bullpups as much as people say, we do use the P90 in law enforcement and the Secret Services. the british rifles just get hate thanks to the A1 variant. i guess some people just forgot how bad the original M16 was!
Have you heard about the unveiling of the Abrams X? We've made a video on it, check it out
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Its like military show and tell
SHAMBALAKING RULES it’s like military “let me try a couple rounds.”
The show and tell everyone hates:
Hey I got an AK 47!
American: destroys middle eastern guy*
Bring ur fav toys
US marines get to find out how unlucky the brits are to have the shitiest assault rifle in service
Or normal show and tell in the USA
All the American weapons mysteriously went missing that night. All they found was a note scrawled in pencil which said, "Cheers lads!"
Haha
bedconsumer no but you lost to people with bolt action rifles that rode goats
@@gregjones7665 the limeys were in Nam as well
@@LiteralCrimeRave Not really.
@@dbdb9334 While the Uk did not semd combat troops, they very much WERE present, acting as advisors to the south For Britain's involvement in the First Vietnam War, the officially stated casualty list was 40 British and Indian soldiers killed, don't know why they were put together though
Battlefield : Character is an expert in every weapon
Irl soldiers: where's the trigger on this? Which way does the bullet come out?
😂😂
I’m surprised he responds still to this day
Hehe who responds
Lol
@@MarineServices you are cool
*U.S Marine: Pulls out a small packet from his pouch* Want one?
*U.K Soldier:* No thanks i don't smoke.
*U.S Marine:* They're not cigarettes. *continues to munch on crayola crayons*
Lmao
*U.S Marine* : My favorite flavor is blue. (crunch crunch crunch)
lol, but those aren't the original "crayons" where this started from. Guess if you really knew how the joke started you'd be jealous as heck. But you could always ask the lovely ladies of Alpha Delta Pi of UCLA, or anyone from 3rd Plt of Weapons Co 1/1.
Jeff Burnham Cool your superiority complex there devil dog
Best comment 👍😂
We Brits are a fair minded race.
Our rifles are designed to give the enemy a sporting chance.
@Glitchtale! Chara Dreemurr lmao
Ha ha best quote ever
Is that why you plundered half of the world? Because you're fair minded? Dumb clot
@@herbertmacaulay8987 where r u from? Chances r your country killed a few to claim it’s plot of land...
@@herbertmacaulay8987 like every other empire in history? Stop being pissy about the past
Marine: How does it work?
Brit: Work? Haha, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
LMFAOOO
Sa80s were shit luckly they replaced it with the l98a2 gp
The sa80 was so bad we had to send it to the Germans for them to fix 😂
M16A1: it's just teething issues! They didn't clean it well enough! Successive generations fixed the issue!
L85A1: Same deal except hmyum crayons gun no work haha french surrender mnnngghhh etc
@@thewalrus148 Hk was owned by the British at the time it was contracted to overhaul the A1
American soldiers: "wtf is this?"
British soldiers: "wtf is this?"
TH-cam algorithm: "haha they not know bang bang watch this"
@Chicken Thigh nobody asked
Our L129A1 is pretty much the same as the american AR OR M4 so not that bad for us. Getting to grips with the cocking handle on the right side of the weapon would be alien to a US soldier.
@@lad2987 lmao
@Quint Essential he never said he/she was against them he/she was just making a joke my friend.
Quint Essential its still a better love story than twilight
1:50 who gave this man sleight of hand pro
Ilonus True that dude has the fast reload perk from black ops 2
Jr Pineda speed cola?
rickstick GAMER yessir
He was well happy with himself too
@@AbilityModifier he were impressed
I love the marine trying to figure out the bullpup
Thrillcekr I’m in the British cadets and I have done alot of shooting and it just becomes natural to reach over the weapon it doesn’t take long to get it
@@thebarch7594 becomes second nature, i had to get used to it in cadets 8 years ago, over the top was easier for me a few people would go under, plus we dont have a forward assist so its just slap on the charging handle. nothing like camp to get used to it plus using that an Lee enfields to pass your weopons handling drills.
@@climbingbow I was one of the last cadets generations (still part of it) who got to use the lee Enfield training rifle and I loved it hate the new one. And now we have got to do a forward assist and we must charge over the weapon or you will fail your a2 WHT.
@@matthewyoung9828 yeah Lee Enfield was a fun one to us an yeah for SA back then it was just do what works best so WHT was pretty easy for us
@@climbingbow yea times change but I still prefer the no6 over the new CSBTR
*American an german soldiers bonding with machine-guns*
American an British soldiers: how the hell do you work these things
U.S: Hey! HEY! IT'S A MACHINEGUN!
German: proceeds to hallucinate about the holocaust
@@reidtucker7563 "Haha, okay."
@@femmemachete *death march plays in the distance*
I just read that in a Brit accent
US & UK: so we're going to practice manoeuvres where should we go?
Germany: Poland.
US & UK: good idea, we can practice an invasion.
Germany: yes, practice....
"Do you guys use any sort of hearing protection? We sure don't."
"Huh?!"
Were is that
Time stamp?
Who’s not wearing ear condoms?
@Earl Lee so? still need ears
Hannibal the cannibal
ear condoms 😭😭😭
the Uk doesnt need nukes.
the L85 is so heavy that they drop a single one out of a plane and the countries beneath disappear
It’s only 1lb heavier than the m4 😂
Its only 5kg fully loaded geez 😂
Sscorpiun No. it’s actually a 7lb difference which is huge when your walking around + combat.
@@MrYabber dont start this, pleeeeaaaase
@@onlyrushb6428 yee
Just like “holy shit this weighs nothing”
weigh*
XDevilHunterx0 wron*
@@Yoshi-dp1bc **
Holy shit these sights are ass and build quality is of a fuckin hi point oh no
Why
US Marines: untucked blouse and tucked boots.
Royal Marines: tucked blouse and untucked boots.
Wasnt royal marines was Irish guards
You don't tuck in US fatigue blouses
Men don't wear blouses
They aren't supposed to be tucked in.
@@engasal Walk up to the next Marines you see and tell them that. After you wake up let us all know how that worked out for you
I remember last year we did a big training exercise with the Brits, dudes are cool as shit and ALWAYS want KBARs and are willing to trade some of their shit for a KBAR. But we did this same thing, it all started out of my own curiosity. I asked them if I could look at their rifles and they were cool with it. So, I'm holding this thing up and I'm just like, "This thing is so fucking awkward..." and their response killed me, "Nah man, it isn't that bad." So I hand them my M4 and say, "Here, try this." They pass it around and they jokingly ask, "Shit man, we were wrong, we like this better. You wanna trade?" I'm going to absolutely honest with you and say, if that M4 was my personally owned weapon, I would of done it in a heart beat. Just to say that I have a legit British rifle. One dude traded me a Gerber for one of his Berets as well. The KBAR got me a Frog Top with patches, a beret, and one of the British Marine Pins that goes in the cover. Shit was cool, to say the least.
@Kaydzy I would imagine, you don't see bullpup rifles all that often in the states as it is. They're a dime a dozen. The legit rifles would for sure be hard to find, taking into consideration the 1986 Gun Ban Law. I'm not sure if you're American or not, so I'll just tell you anyhow... The 1986 law made it virtually impossible for any normal civilian to get an automatic or burst firearm, no matter what it is. If the gun was made prior to 1986, there are grandfather loopholes you can take, but can be risky. Otherwise, you can get a class B license and have no worries about it. Nonetheless, the L85 would still be a neat weapon to own, just to say you owned one. Similarly saying like a BAR, Tommy Gun, M60, etc.
@@bradscott4048 You might be able to get a hold of of an L98A2 its only semiautomatic. They are used for training cadets.
@@h.walker1332 7/10 gun, if you ask me. Cadet ones are lower quality.
@@h.walker1332 I was literally shooting them yesterday in my cadets haha
@@j-greggo_laaa3736 It is still a section 5 firearm so only dealers, police and military can get them with it being a centre fire automatic rifle. Since Michael Ryan went on his killing spree in Hungerford in '87, they passed a law shortly afterward that all full bore automatic rifles would fall under section 5 of the firearms act. The only variant of the SA series you might get hold of is the L98A1 which makes the L85A1 look like the Rolls Royce of firearms!! We took 20 to the range back in 88 and came back with 4 that still worked!!
American Soldier: Hey wanna come around to my house bro and play with my new toys ?
British: Yeah bro! I'll bring mine too.
American: Sweet bro!
We Americans never shy away from new shooty shoots
SMDA - Semi-Monthly
Or sharing them around.
Us: hey let's let Canada join
Uk/dad to the us: Canada let's bring them in later
Canada: us can we do it by are selves
Us: yes
@@Poker-vp3ch Ya Goddamn right MURICA!
Gamer634 19 you trying really hard to somehow make Canada seem relevant when in reality no one in this planet gives a damn about Canada or is intimidated by their military.
US: “What the hell is this garbage I’m using? How do you work this thing?”
Britains: “Yeah Bruv we are trying to figure that out too”
That actually made me laugh
Better than the yank rifle
Out performs the M4
Non-masturbating Tyrannosaurus Rex There’s a reason the sas (clearly the best spec ops unit in the world) use the m4
Glad they got replaced, those rifles are shite from what I've learn't
I trained with the Brits from 3 Rifles and the first thing they said when I handed them my M4 WITH A 320, “Bloody Hell, this is light.” I still remember their reactions when we gave them the slick M4s, they were jealous of the weight difference lol.
@Aqua man so you are comparing an m4 with a underslung grenade launcher with just a standard l85......How much paint thinners have you sniffed.
@Aqua man My bad I misread the post ,but an m4 with an m320 is actually lighter than a l85A3 with full optics, and mag vs a fully loaded m4w/m320. So i guess we are both wrong here.
Aqua man Slightly heavier, not much heavier. With all their SUSAT sight and all their various other attachments, and probably it being a bullpup definitely made it seem heavier. Also, we were rocking the M320A1s for what that’s worth.
Aqua man My M4 was rocking the M68 optic, PEQ-15, and the M320A1. They were rocking whichever variant of their L85s, with the SUSAT sights, a good size laser attachment, tac-light, and a chunky foregrip. Overall, my M4 might be heavier, but definitely didn’t felt like it.
Aqua man By the way, this was the training exercise I took part in with the British troops in Fort Polk, Louisiana.
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Should I start an in-depth analysis channel? Any suggestions on topics are welcomed !
Edit: That channel has been made... @VersatileWarrior
Reconnaissance
What about Recon should I look into?
Warfootage
Shawnie be Good An analysis of war footage?
GRIP POD. Kill it with fire
"Cool guns. Didn't realize Britain was in space."
British standard issue weapons are normally shit due to parliaments weird obsession with bull pups
Kinda looks like a gun from starship troopers or something lol
@@skeptical_mann1196 They're just jealous of the Famas.
@@skeptical_mann1196 Spoken like someone who has never handled either the L85A2 or A3, come back when you dont spew BS rhetoric! L85A2 + A3 are solid tried and tested guns, only bullpup you dont need to disassemble to clear a jam/malfunction on, one of the only real fully modular bullpups, shorter overall length, lighter in weight compared to Ar15's with same firepower but go on please tell us more...
P.s prior to the L85 we the British used FN FAL's which isnt a bullpup so not sure where your getting "parliaments obsession" from.
@A-a-ron They have, on its 4th iteration of the rifle, all bugs and issues have been smoothed out, tried and battle tested in 3 wars now, it built a bad reputation after 1st persian Gulf where it had many issues, most of the issues ironed out but still wasnt good enough so the gun was then handed to H&K who revamped it smoothed out and refined the design even further.
They were like: Blimey mate! a rifle that doesn't suck arse!
The a3 is good
It’s said that it’s one of the worst military rifles ever produced.
Scooby-Doo that’s the SA80 the first one not the A2 or A3 which Are very good guns
Scooby-Doo A3 is better than some colonial made weapon
@@bomk4249 Weren't they refitted by Heckler and Koche, in order to make the A3?
"who needs a plastic rifle?
but seriously, it would be helpful. this rifle ways a ton..."
What time did he say this I didn't here it
You made this up
@@dayton2vx yeah, so?
@@Drinky05_ I made it up, its a joke bro
@@onlyrushb6428 then take " away ya fuckin Nob head
British and American troops....no interpreter needed. We share the same language and history. True brothers.
The problem with bullpop is mag smell like arm pit
Bet it would 😂
Problem is when you need to reload when your prone, nose right in the pit 🤣
Hahahahha 👍🏻👌
Yeah that’s the one😂
This is the best one yet 😂😂😂
This makes me smile seeing the US a British military having a fun day together.
UK or US. All Marines are the best, no one has armed forces like us UK or the US.
That I can agree with
@@MarineServices india
@@vipinvnath4011 quality over quantity
Thats british soldiers not royal marines but you're still righg
@@vipinvnath4011 quality over quantity
Respect to our usa brothers
U mean neighbor
CRAZY Monkey1x1 we are brothers in arms because in war you don’t have neighbors you have your brothers and the other guy aka the enemy
You to
1:50 the US marines face tho 😂😂
sam santos haha good point out 😂
POLICE YA MOOSHTASH
@tekryn or he has been in some short movies with funky background music lol
@Blaze Temp no mate that's a US marine
@Blaze Temp yes mate we are talking bout the American y would we be talking bout the British guy owning a ranch 🥴🥴
The US m4 is such a lovely looking weapon especially with all its attachments!
M16 is even prettier.
In boot camp, we use the M16, as it's better suited for drill and bayonet training.
Here's a pic, the M4 is the top, the M16 is on bottom, even though I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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@@Ranstone yeh I do see what you mean I like the more sold stock on the m16 but I really like the shorter barrel on the m4 makes the gun better for mobility were i feel the m16 would have the better accuracy.
I used the M4 a4 for 6 years in the infantry, cco pk14 and horizontal grip. Looooved that rifle (though i was a 50 gunner so i never actually shot it...) then i went to aviation and got an m16 a2 and hated my fucking life. The m4 is great because you can mod it to fit pretty much any mission/person. Though 5.56 is a not great round for fighting unarmored targets because the ballistics are so clean i can pass clean through w.o doing enough damage to kill/severely wound the target (as reported in vietnam when the switch over from m14 to m16 occurred.) M14 AMR is an amazing riffle that puts all others to shame in non urban ops imo.
I am British, but my late husband was in the US air force. I have alot of respect and admiration for both countries.
The fact that their so confused about each other weapons makes this 100x better😂
Marines: "This is how you lost the colonies" showing a bullpup
@ASCALON weird how they can stop Napoleon but not farmers
@@richardshull2290 Who had the help of the French army or you just forgot that bit lol
@@craigk1328 because they did a lot.
Bullpup musket.
@ASCALON they meant us. we were the farmers in that sentence.
I love how one of the British guy starts tactical reloading with the M4, insert the mag in then slap the gun
In the 90s we had an combined shooting competition in Germany - I was part of the UK team, we had to fire the M16s un-sighted non optics. Iron sights. We beat the American team using their weapons in the team event. There were Dutch & German teams there also. It was a great time we all went out as a very large group at night and they even had a beer tent on the firing range.
In Germany? Bring the teams that beat those phoney Americans to Texas and real Americans would easily beat them with their own weapons
@@Shadow-oq2th You mean fat hairy old men who shoot at targets all day?
@@graygamingps4503 kid u have 20 Subs And U Spread germs in this planet lmao Infected fuck
@@totifaddye6587 you got pissed that he defined half of your southern population perfectly and went on at him for subs? Give me a bloody break...
GrayGamingPS4 eat shit, you emo basement dweller. Some of us aren’t hairy
The beginning was setting off my anxiety so bad😂no muzzle control at all😂
You kno they’re guards when they start mixing drill with firing positions @ 2:27 he thought he heard “right turn!”
I was wondering what the hell that was
So happy I'm not the only to notice that abomination of a stance
Im dying lmao
I can’t unsee that now
I love how a few of the yanks tried cocking the handle with their firing hand, doubt many have touched a bull-pup before
It's become standard in the US military and by American civilians to try to leave your firing hand on those controls, to make weapon reloads and the like faster. It's an advantage. Also shows they haven't had to deal with AK pattern rifles.
Quick way to lose the tip or more of a finger
Its counter intuitive at first. I can recall being prone wondering if it was just the British army being sadistic. You get used to it. Makes sense to keep hand on pistol grip as much as possible.
@@cavscout888 But that's his point, they weren't doing that, they were holding the front handguard with their left while taking their firing hand off the pistol grip to operate the rifle's controls. British manual of arms is to do everything with your left hand while holding the pistol grip with your right, the only issue is the designers put the controls everywhere on the rifle (on the left side under the sling, cocking handle on the right, etc) so you're constantly flying around the rifle with your left hand to do basic drills. BotR has a good video explaining the ergonomics and manual of arms th-cam.com/video/kGlEgxT1gpE/w-d-xo.html
@@G1NZOU It's the method in the US as well. Problem comes when some weapons are really hard to actually do that with. If something is difficult to do with an M16/M4, you're likely doing it wrong. Exception being locking the bolt back is about as wonky as charging an L85.
You can tell they immediately take to the rifles ergonomics, bullpup ain't it chief
Bull pup has some advantages for modern military’s and also the brits have non bull pup weapons they train on the Americans have no standard bull pup firearm
Pffft once you've drilled it's just as easy, there's well known advantages to bullpups and discounting them based on lessons learned from civilian shooting is foolishness
GeneralAdvance exactly the advantages are you can have the same barrel length in a shorter overall firearm and you have more weight closer to the body making it easier to maneuver
@@GeneralAdvance it might be just as easy but it isn't just as fast, no way you could reload as quick and smooth as 1:50 with a bullpup. bullpups have some big advantages but they also have _a lot_ of disadvantages. there's a reason most militaries still use conventional rifles and some countries (france, NZ) have even moved away from bullpups.
@@xavierh.5102 a well-trained soldier who was used to the weapon COULD reload it just as fast, just lift the rifle up, change it then down again, one smooth fluid motion. But frankly if you're a decent enough shot the question wouldn't arise, 30 rounds in that magazine, if you've not hit what you're aiming at by the time it's empty you're not going to as the enemy certainly will have
1:44 i gave all my mags away... lol
Whenever I see the UK military I can't not think about "OH NO, NO SOAP! YOU DIDN'T JUJU ON THAT BEAT!"
Your fruit killing skills are remarkable.
Hahaha, oh shit 😅
Bravo Six going dark. Over and out.
@@asdf-bi3tp cant be over and out m8
@@thejackal9834 hes american. we do actually say that, though most people that do arent military.
Would like to see the reactions to Russian military and America/nato troops swapping weapons
As opposed to their previous habit of exchanging bullets.
@@jonasgrant yes
Maxime Russians like to exchange billets more though, so it’s hard
@@jonasgrant m4 vs ak74
@@seyedahmadseyedabdolahi5616 depends on the purpose and user. Regular troops, I would pick the ak in a heartbeat, special forces, or recon units, I would go m4.
When its show and tell in Afghanistan between MURICA and RULE BRITANIA
Well it's "RUE" Britannia lol. I'm from Alabama and even I know that.
John Doe umm, no it’s “Rule”.....
John im from england. And lemme tell u. I wish i wasnt
"Every Marine a Rifleman"
Respect to our British allies!
one of the most wholesome things ive seen this year
Love how the UK and USA are good Alli's
My man at 1:50 has put in time to know what he is doing.
That's not his weapon though, he's a Brit with an American weapon
@@ruzziasht349 yeah mate it's pointed out by the uniform. This video is cut together, we haven't seen how much time they've had with the weapon. As clean as he is, he may have practiced with the weapon more than the others, may be more naturally able to switch weapons. Either way he is smooth.
@@staticjump the others were awful with the Bullpups - I'm assuming everyone had the same amount of time.
It’s not a very complicated rifle so not that much time lol
Which is weird cause you don't really need to smack the bolt release like that you can just give it a press.
1:28
"So it's like an AK"
"Eeeeehhhhh"
I assume they were talking about how the l85 is gas operated
The two best forces in the world
Amazing to think less than 500 years ago our nations fought a fierce war with one another and now we fight on the same side of the battle field.
American soldier: okay very funny now where's your actual rifles?
nobody :
America : THE BRITISH ARE COMING THE BRITISH ARE COMING, lets show them how to use our guns
It’s crazy how history has flip flopped
Girl at show and tell: *Brings their favorite stuff*
Boys:
US hands them a phone
British: “what’s this for?”
US: “air strike’s, their basically our primary weapon”
U.S Marine: So how do you use this?
U.K Soldier: that's the neat thing, You don't
2:30 what kind of damn ballerina stance is that 😂
I said the same shit. Lol
Its how you turn during drill
i imagine a DS roasting his ass
That means the British can dance and fight at the same time, no problem !
That is the stance of a man who almost monged it and turned the wrong way 😂
Brothers in arms..
AngloSaxon ancestry?
This is really wholesome. Just armies of two different countries sharing their massive toys.
As soon as they handed the l85s over the british troops grabbed the US rifles and ran as fast as they could. knowing full well even if they managed to figure the gun out itd malfunction
The l85 is superior to the m4
Non-masturbating Tyrannosaurus Rex 🧢
@@non-masturbatingtyrannosau3476 Doubt
@@carolusrex8488 I would not say that, but it is no where near as bad as people make out, not since the A2 was introduced. The A1 was terrible, but the A2 sorted almost all the issues. The two biggest ones the rifle has remaining is its weight (its a fat boy for a service rifle), and the fact that in urban environments it is impossible to switch shoulders unless you want your teeth caved in.....
A lot of people hate it because they hate bullpups, and because they have heard the stories of the A1 and have it in their head that the A2 has not really changed much. I would not call it the best service rifle out there, but it is a long way from being the worst now.
@@alganhar1 The m16 model is way superior in everything the L85 has, and the M16 is not a stupid bullpup. Why do bullpups exist? Cause people cannot fire guns do they need to modefy them
This is golden! You never remember how quirky the L85 is the first time until you see someone fumbling with the cocking lever and dust cover lock switch!
I recall finding the hold-open on the L1A1 pretty awkward, and that's almost universally called a better rifle.
The gas plug seems to defeat civilian firers though, based on vids on youtube.
The Brit with the sleight of hand pro was loving the m4 lmaooo
Together we’re united 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
It was already united states
Everyone looked so confused trying to figure out each other's guns
Looked like it was only the bullpup that caused confusuon
kinda surprised that the comment section's still active, even more so that the uploader still responds. thanks for the footage lad, it's definitely appreciated!
M4's jam exposed to ice.
AK's jam exposed to mud.
L85's jam exposed to ammo.
"Why'd you need the goddurn magazine at the back red coats?"
"Oi mate, we had to get 'eckler and koch to make this weapon because the first time we made it, it were shit weren't it?"
@dustisdeadbodies85 British own at the time yes but regardless the Brits still needed german engineers to fix the stupid thing.
@@Predator42ID The engineers at the time were actually British as well. They were former Enfield engineers.
@dustisdeadbodies85 well owned by a british company, but it's sad we couldn't make a (at least) competent rifle the first time.
The Alright Tank Historian we did, accuracy international (and for that matter the Parker-Hale equivalent) are some of the best sharpshooter/ sniper rifles arround even the US uses them!
Yep, and the M16 famously had no issues at all when it was first brought into service
Miss the days when Brits brought the best infantry rifle created to exchange events: 7.62 SLR
Be all like pewpewpewpew
Zippitty22 more like PEW PEW PEW
Definitely shows the difference in combat mentality between our boys, too. Slower, heavier and more deliberate 7.62 rounds (fewer shots fired but greater stopping power) vs the quick, lightweight and aggressive 5.56 (overwhelming show of force via a rain of bullets). The 5.56 is cheaper to produce, too.
FN FAL, semi auto developed by FN in Belgium and made under licence in Birmingham for the British army, Designated the L1A1 and just called SLR by squaddies. Argentina used the full auto version of the same rifle in the Falklands
@@MiaogisTeas SA 80 is also a 5.56 NATO round
I’ve held the British AR when I was in Afghanistan and boy are they heavy compared to the M4
It's like you and the boys bringing your best toys and exchange with the boys from other schools while having a vacation.
Can we all appreciate how quickly at the end the instructor undid the safety so the student could fire dialed in instead of going "you dummy". And it was so quick
Thank you all for your service. Thank you to our Allies too.
My favorite foreign military is definitely the Brits. Mainly because we speak the same language so we can fuck around together most effectively! Real talk though, it actually makes a lot of sense for allies to learn the ins and outs of each others weapon systems for effective combined operations.
brings me great joy hearing a belfast accent in a british uniform
He's in the uk armed forces so it's common to hear. Not like he can join Irelands military, maybe if they had one hahaha
@koolcat420 NI ain't Ireland so no he's no traitor. The two are separate by choice of northern Ireland
I like this video. It's short, to the point, with no narration or anything. I wish more youtube videos were like this
This must be like taking your Fisher Price toys next door to play with the neighbour's kid and finding out you're an 18 year old man and they have a PS5.
Would be interesting to see the feedback from these marines.
Simple:
US: *guys can we have our rifles back?*
UK: *F**K off!*
🤣
Difference is, you can go home and get a Gun like your Service Rifle in the US, in the UK, that is kind of frowned upon!
It is as much cultural, the British as a whole do not feel the need to own weapons. However, it is far from impossible to do so. I personally shoot WWI and WWII rifles and own a fair few, including 2 SMLE no 1Mk III, a Lee Enfield No 4 mk I, a K98k, Enfield 1917 and a Greek mannlicher-schoenour. Not to mention the obligatory .22 LR target rifle and a .243 that my daughter uses.
Yes, guns are regulated in the UK, and yes there are restrictions, but this idea they are illegal to own is not in fact the case. Anything up to .50 cal is legally ownable.
@@alganhar1 ye it’s just real hard to be allowed to own them as we can not get them for personal protection unlike America
I too enjoy the 2nd amendment
@@alganhar1 Can you explain something to me? Do you have to be in a gun club to own rifles bigger than .22? I'm a firearm owner from NI, and I want bigger calibre guns but I still don't know much about the gun laws/regulations. Want a handgun too, in NI that's legal but not in Britain.
Always found it weird the British military would settle on a bullpup that’s not ambidextrous. It would’ve been really cool for the left handed Americans to try out
I’m glad we line up on the same side.
I was a at this training exercise. I clicked on the video cause the mountains looked familiar. And this was on my birthday. Good times.
The two best militarys in the world
Girls in Europe: "omg I cant wait to visit the big ben"
Boys in europe:
Cant even tell whos who if they’d dint have the uniform on .
Americans are the 16 year olds.
@@merlyn2121 16 year olds with mustaches?
The Guards showing off our military might. Blue red blue, through and through. 💂
respect to that guy that gave all his mags away
what a kind soul
M4 is the best gift the US has given into this planet.
And Aiding Europe After WW2 without it half of it would be in poverty
CRAZY Monkey1x1 okay
CRAZY Monkey1x1 okay
1:50 was quick since he was used to having to do curls to reload the POS he is is used to.
Good Point
Less of a learning curve
Would have been interesting to get personal opinions on who thought of what for each service. Regardless I’m sure the beer and barbecue was flowing right after...more beer than bbq
The muzzle awareness is an itch I can't scratch in this video.
Sounds like some serious wind in the background. Its good that they do this.
It's like if you give a bunch of kids cool knifes and they all are curious
Oddly specific
London in a nutshell
@David Rogers Sure! Would you like to view my extensive Swiss Army knife collection?
I really though that Marine was going to break the British rifle in the first 30 seconds lol
Can't break what's broken
Look at these guys just swinging the rifles around in eachothers faces holy crap lol
also maybe its just because the magazine is out. unsure.
Loaded or unloaded you dont swing guns around in someone's face common sense and respect for those around you. Especially in the military
@TheDoonzman ....every military man I know is big on gun safety not swinging it around
To all the people bashing the L85 rifle keep in mind this the L85A3. Without a doubt the best version of the L85 rifles.
The A3 could be the best performing rifle ever made and people would still assume it sucked because of the failure of the A1.
@@cyberbird451 because for some reason even though one version sucked apparently that doesn’t mean it can get better.
@@crippledbox1162 it says a lot the British will continue to use it until 2030, if it was as bad as people say they would have scrapped it long ago..
@@cyberbird451if you get the chance you should get a few magazines through it. See how good they are.
honestly Americans dont hate bullpups as much as people say, we do use the P90 in law enforcement and the Secret Services. the british rifles just get hate thanks to the A1 variant. i guess some people just forgot how bad the original M16 was!
I love the sibling like friendship and rivalry the us and Ik have! 🇺🇸 🤜🤛🇬🇧
The UK doesn't really rival with the U.S.
Not rivals.
1:50
Why does the Brit look so American, and the Yank look so British?
The shades, man.
Cousins, I guess.
Eh, they look like normal people. A country doesn’t have a certain face
Well um us Americans were British before so.
@@Vune_GG
A country doesn't have a face, but a Nation often does.
Soldiers swapping weapons: how i do dis?
Hardcore gamers: haha. Hold my doritos and dew
why is this so wholesome to me
That sweet muzzle discipline at the beginning is why there are way too many friendly fire incidents.