🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:42 🚀 Raspberry Pi 5 offers 2 to 3 times speed improvement over the Pi 4, with a new quad-core 64-bit ARM CPU running at 2.4 GHz and a 16nm manufacturing process. 01:36 🎮 New features include a VideoCore 7 GPU, support for two 4K monitors at 60fps, built-in hardware H.265 decoding, and LPDDR4x RAM with options for 4GB or 8GB. 03:19 ⚡ Improved I/O capabilities with full-speed USB 3.0 ports, gigabit Ethernet, two 4-lane MIPI camera/display transceivers, and exposed PCI Express via ribbon cable. 05:09 🧩 A custom chip called the "rp1" acts as a Southbridge, supporting USB 3.0, gigabit Ethernet, GPIO, and more, enhancing the Raspberry Pi's I/O capabilities. 07:38 🔌 The Raspberry Pi 5 includes a power management IC (da1991) for efficient power supply management, supporting USB Power Delivery and active cooling is recommended for optimal performance. Made with HARPA AI
Will I buy one? Does the sun come up in the morning? Currently, I have a 1b, 2b, a 4b 4GB, and a zero 2W , along with almost a dozen Pico variations. The Pis go in and out of use as I need them, while the Picos go into real world problem solving- a treadmill fan control, a defrost timer for a 20 year old upright freezer, a controller for a 20 year old dishwasher and a controller in waiting for when the timer on a 24 year old dryer gives up. I could have just bought new appliances but where's the fun in that, along with saving $Ks and the environment. I am interested to see whether the Pi 5 will be able to encode 2 mjpeg streams from cheap HDMI capture devices, something the 4 was not quite up to for a single stream. That would save tens of KWh per month over the old x86 currently assigned to the task. So many ideas, so little time...
Honestly disappointed. Still mini HDMI. No USB-C display. No 2.5 GB Ethernet. No NVMe. Sure you may say those are too lofty! But not really. NVMe is quite cheap these days. 2.5GbE is quickly becoming the norm and USB-C displays been the standard for years.
Who has a 2.5G link to the public internet though? I still think that's niche for the hobbyist. Possible M.2 support is exciting and a step in the right direction. I was a little disappointed to see SD card on the 5, but glad to see bandwidth improvements. I would have preferred to see an actual slot for use as the main disk.
@@arxaaron gone are the days of 5V and 3.3V logic - even SIM cards run on 1.8V these days - you don't really want high voltages for switching transistors at that kind of integration scale...
I think you underestimate the volume of the product they ship. They still sell the original Raspberry Pi in huge numbers. It's used widely in industry in applications that favor stability and long-term support over performance. Another perspective: their customers come from all walks of life. Some are hobbyists. Some are industry professionals. They will have different needs. How is it the end of the road if the foundation is still making and selling the older models?
I hope there will be a Raspberry Pi 500. Currently, I only have a need for one of those. I use the Pi 3 and Pi 4 as servers, and they are fast enough for that purpose. However, the Pi 400 is used as an HTPC, so additional speed and hardware decoding capabilities would be most welcome.
You would think by now there would have been an audio CODEC. Just a really fast CPU and some PCIe . There are better boards than this already. Not that impressed. To be fair, I will educate myself more and may have a direerent opinion.
These used to be cool for $35 years ago. Now it’s more expensive than Intel N CPU (N5105, N95, N100) after cooler, power adapter, case and SSD while having worse performance. Unless you need GPIO or specific use case, these are not that good
Thanks Gary for great update. The fact that you have not received a RPI 5 for testing is only proof that you stand out critically, objectively and honestly and you deserve full trust from YT spectators. I will only buy the RPI 5 after you have tested it. I did this with RPI 4 and I have been very satisfied with it for over 3 years.
Thanks Gary! Sucks to see you could not get access to a board! I know you will drop a great video when you do! Cant wait to see your review and hear your thoughts.
@@GaryExplainsThis is not a dig or anything and I don't know how you interact with them, but sometimes your responses can come off as aggressive. There is a chance you interacted with someone on their team and they didn't take it well or something. I personally don't actually care about this, I reply to your comments all the time here and there, I'm just making a guess based on observations. I also know a lot of it comes from passion about the subject matter etc so I get it
@@AnesuC My interactions with the Raspberry Pi folks has been completely cordial and almost sycophantic on my part. I did a review of a Raspberry Pi board about 8 years ago (on AA) where I said that a different board could decode video faster than the Pi. Eben got in contact and we had a big meeting. I changed the article after they proved that a different video player app would perform better, but I couldn't change the video. Since then they have been cold towards me.
I've heard it's "likely" in the future. I forget where but it's one of the 4-5 reviews out today that actually have a unit to test (no shade to Gary intended). Perhaps it was the Explaining Computers review.
When the Raspberry Pi 5 comes, can you explain how you use the PCIe connector. Do you use a Flexible ribbon cable (15 or 16 pins?) and does it connect to an adapter for memory, or to a display?
When I tried using RPi 4 as a Steam Link, the decoder performance and latency was a bit underwhelming, so that's definitely something I'd like to see compared!
I wish they had Type-C ports as it means a world of dongles to use it, used the be the other way around a few years back but now everyone has adopted Type-C the role is reversed we all have Type-C devices no longer Type-A
as with the RPI Zero, you can probably redirect the PWM audio signals to two GPIO pins, and add your own filter logic to get stereo output. if you want to use the PI5 as a base for your portable gaming machine. And there is also I2S audio on the GPIO, so you can connect a codec for high quality audio input and output
Add on to Martin, there is also HDMI. Since it's an Raspberry, I'm sure there will be a lot of attention and documented solutions/workarounds as this gets out into people's hands.
I just saw a video of network chuck and he was testing it and it seemed like it was struggling with one 4k video running locally. Granted, he was running dual monitors
Really would be interesting to see if the USB PD can use higher than 5V power. Because currently it seems that it requires a 5V 5A power supply which seems excessive and it's hard to come by unless you get their official power supply.
💯 this. I hope the board is designed to tolerate weaker power supplies for those who don't need to pull that much power. If instead the board drops out with a less than ideal supply as previous boards would do, those bricks are fixing to get really expensive.
@@Henfredemars I think Jeff Geerling tested it and told that the previous 5V 3A supply from the Pi4 also works, but there may be some performance impace.
The main thing about the Raspberry PI's are the turnkey working hobby examples with GPIO PWM, I2C, SPI, etc. support. 🥳 Spinoffs have little GPIO examples. 😎 Thank you.
Hi Gary, when your Pi5 arrives, I wonder if you can do a comparison between Intel J4125 (10watt) vs Pi5? Better yet N5105 (10Watt). How is the desktop experience? Power consumption (as a Ubuntu server / Node.js) 24x7x365 days?
I love the concept of the Raspberry Pi 400, integrating a full computer into a keyboard. I hope the Raspberry Pi Foundation considers creating a similar "Pi-500" based on the latest hardware when the time is right. In the meantime, I'm enjoying learning Linux and Amiga stuff with my Pi 400 and the excellent accompanying book!
I want to see a performance comparison with the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, to see how much we have advanced performance-wise, and budget-wise, in the 12 years between the two architectures (Core 2 vs A76 (yeah I know it's kind of apples to oranges, but anyway..), and also in the 16 years since we had PCIe 2.0 for the first time).
I’d like to know if I2C finally works. Yeah yeah bit bang. Specifically features like clock stretching. I have to use my Arduino boards for all my sensors that use stretching.
Why isn't anyone talking about availability? I simple couldn't get my hands on one raspberry pi for ears, and in my country the biggest reseller put a cap limit of one raspberry/person. That means I am not able to buy it anymore and other suppliers just don't have it on stock, or if they do have it, it is gone in a matter of minutes.
I'm doubtful I'll be able to buy one of these for a long time, but in the blog post from the Raspberry Pi foundation It's clear that they're taking this seriously and implementing steps to improve the situation, like getting priority access to some individuals. Of course, one needs to understand that these are not expensive boards by industry standards. There's not a lot of money to be made in their manufacturing, so they must compete for manufacturing time with more profitable products like cell phones.
I look at an RPI because it is cheap, easy to use, does not need a fan, and is fast enought for most applications. The RPI 5 is a departure from this: now the fan is standard, and the price is significantly higher. At the same time some fanless small factor PCs with N4000 processors are below $100 with storage, enclosure and power supply. The specs are better than the RPI 5. I only hope that the RPI 5 will only extend the product line, not replace.
These new A76 cores have cryptographic extensions, it will be interesting to compare hardware accelerated AES and SHA algorithms with the software implementations on the same hardware.
I'm glad that you called them extensions. It's very interesting to hear about the new core, but I'm really curious exactly what instructions they're going to support. The previous ones have been pretty restrictive understandably to keep the costs down. Consider how popular TLS is these days. Using one of these as a small server could see a lot of crypto workload.
@@Henfredemars I experimented with nVidia Jetson - their CPUs support cryptographic extensions. I tested the AES algorithm in assembly (AESE, AESMC, AESD and AESIMC instructions). The encryption and decryption are tens of times faster than the software implementation. I'm sure there will be an image of OpenWRT for Rasberry Pi 5 soon.
Means the Pi 6 after this will then be priced in the triple digits and even more of a non-option after the "foundation" threw its original audience under the bus during the shortage to cater to commercial users.
Simple Question really: Will the beefier cooler fit in the case (when you remove the case fan) and does it still work properly inside the case? The cases are said to be stackable, how does that work and what does that mean for cooling (both with the included case fan and, assuming it works with the case, the board mounted cooler). Pretty stoked about this as I am using Pi 4 in places where it could do with more performance.
A nice surprise and I will start saving up to get my RP5 8GB one as I can see this will be very suitable as a desktop computer running on very low power (8W max).👍😅
Something to test, can you take an existing Pi 4 Raspbian installation on an SD card and stick it straight in the new Pi 5, or is it recommended to install fresh?
I would 100% recommend a fresh install. I would imagine that the boot sequence has been updated to support the new hardware. But that could be an interesting experiment.
Since the LLM projects like llama.cpp only use the CPU in the Raspberry Pi and the Pi 5 doesn't include a NPU, then the LLM will run 2 to 3 times faster, as this is the general bump in CPU performance.
Thanks Gary. I saw a couple of videos yesterday and figured that I'd buy one as soon as they are released. But somehow my finger slipped and I 'accidentally' placed my order ... it happens. Hopefully I'll have mine soon and will be able to play along at home.
I would like to know if they plan on making the Raspberry pi 500, any rumors? I don't think you would be able to swap out the pi 4 in the pi 400 with the pi 5.
I was waiting and expecting this video. Sad to see that Gary is not on the influencers list. Here's me engaging, so Mr. Gary gets more exposure. Regarding what to do with it... well, efficiency benchmarks! I know this isn't Pi Pico, but I'm still curious. Also, how can that power delivery chip be used. Would it be possible to always have the current current draw in the taskbar ? Also, how accurate is it, if compared to what a smart plug/wattmeter shows ? Does it have only reading capabilities, or can it be interacted too ? Like setting a power limit ? Though I guess that if you know the power you're using, you can implement a power limit by simply downclocking when you read you're above the threshold. Also, for tasks that can be done by Pi 4, would this upgrade allow a lower power draw for the same task ? What is the lowest you can go in terms of power use ? Though I guess the last questions are a bit too generic :D Given the improvements, a "Pi 5 500" keyBoard should be an actually decently usable computer. Also, thanks Mr. Gary for the specs breakdown. Neat to see them all at a glance. And the power delivery details.
For testing ideas TH-cam playback would always be interesting (obviously). The H265 decoder hardware looks cool. Also sound quality through the HDMI now that 3.5mm stereo is gone. I am interested in the hardware acceleration, because many Arm boards have struggled with this on Linux.
The only thing that excites me about this is that the camera connectors now use the same cable as the RPi Zero boards. That should mean that the cables will eventually be more readily available. I'm tired of buying cameras and having to throw away the included cables because they don't fit the RPi Zero connector. I only use RPis for battery powered projects so the RPi 5 isn't going to be something I have a lot of use for.
That is great news! Still, 25W max is a big oof to me ( I know this isn't "real world power draw", but for extremely low power enthusiasts like me... that raises a red flag regarding power consumption. Hope I'm wrong.). -EDIT Oh yeah. And also no nvme support for extra oof. "Gus stop being a hate--" nvme lasts "forever", you know.
Yeah I was concerned about this too. Initially, at least in Explaining Computer's review, it seems like the power consumption is somewhat on par with 4, or maybe only slightly higher. Still early too and RPi4 got lots of improvements over time with software updates etc. One thing for sure though, is that RPi5 is more EFFICIENT. Performance per watt is much better according to Jeff Geerling's review.
Currently, I use my Pi 4 as a router running OpenWrt (with a USB Ethernet adapter to give it a second port so it can connect to my modem and my network switch/AP). OpenWrt allows me to have (1) network-wide adblock, (2) SQM for keeping Internet latency consistently low (less lag & jitter for video streaming, video chat, VoIP, multiplayer gaming, etc), (3) WireGuard VPN client with a commercial VPN provider, and (4) site-to-site WireGuard VPN with family. Pi 4 has a lot more compute power than a typical router, while being cheap and energy efficient. Prior to that, I used it for retro game emulation with RetroPie. The Pi 4 can emulate up to PSP, N64, and Dreamcast. Pi 5 emulation performance remains to be seen, because will take time (months) for developers to optimize their software for it. You can also use a Pi as media streaming box, a basic NAS, a cheap infotainment system for your car (Android Auto), digital signage for a business, or a cheap desktop computer for light use, etc. There are many different things you can use them for.
I'd like to see a performance comparison of Pi 5 to Pi 4 with no fan. After four years, I expected more. They moved the ports again, so they could have made a longer board to support M.2 storage without a fragile ribbon cable. They could have put at least one full-sized HDMI port. It has no memory bump at launch, and Gordon Moore would be disappointed with its performance. With the recommended fan, the new power supply, and the HDMI adapter, the 8GB version tops $100 before M.2 adapter and sales tax. I'd rather have an Apple Pi. 😉 In spite of all this, I want one.
i would be shock if no skip video on desktop but noh. same. so not 2 times faster. if 4k 30fps lag rpi4 this should be smoothlessd LOL, but what bout good old 1080 I STILL USE that was that last video format LOL. everything downscale smaller automatic and its faster lol lol 4k? what. you cant play games on 4k 8pixel font is so small even 46inch monitor, but its look good on steam deck. NO its too small i say it allready LOL steam deck is good for nes games
Yes, I was disappointed that they DIDN'T color the GPIO pins! You didn't mention the audio connector. I AM glad they added separate pins for the Fan, rather then using up 2 of the GPIO pins, which means blocking HAT boards to be plugged in! 👍
So, still no native support for booting off of SSD without a bunch of tricks instead of having to use the crappy MicroSD cards that fail all the time? The single biggest gripe I have heard about Rpi since day one was the reliance on those SD cards which have a terrible track record, and here we are at gen 5 and that still has not been addressed.
i always consider raspberry pis but i want one that c an pull a desktop, because... why not gen 4 can, but its choppy and kinda disappointing i will of course watch your video on it, before spending a time, because im somewhat poor
Jeff Gerling and Explaining Computers were both sent pre-production boards to test and plenty of time to make their videos before the embargo date. Unfortunately I have asked the Raspberry Pi Foundation for the same access on multiple occasions, but I have been refused.
This was a mild form of mocking, but Gary already explained his delay to us. He had no secret RP5 board to make his tests, as the other two had and this is cool with me.@@vincentdesjardins1354
the fact they refused to even mention the sound at all leads me to believe the audio IC is still the absolute dogshit it always has been, but nothing a USB interface can't fix :)
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:42 🚀 Raspberry Pi 5 offers 2 to 3 times speed improvement over the Pi 4, with a new quad-core 64-bit ARM CPU running at 2.4 GHz and a 16nm manufacturing process.
01:36 🎮 New features include a VideoCore 7 GPU, support for two 4K monitors at 60fps, built-in hardware H.265 decoding, and LPDDR4x RAM with options for 4GB or 8GB.
03:19 ⚡ Improved I/O capabilities with full-speed USB 3.0 ports, gigabit Ethernet, two 4-lane MIPI camera/display transceivers, and exposed PCI Express via ribbon cable.
05:09 🧩 A custom chip called the "rp1" acts as a Southbridge, supporting USB 3.0, gigabit Ethernet, GPIO, and more, enhancing the Raspberry Pi's I/O capabilities.
07:38 🔌 The Raspberry Pi 5 includes a power management IC (da1991) for efficient power supply management, supporting USB Power Delivery and active cooling is recommended for optimal performance.
Made with HARPA AI
Can you do an episode on MIPI? I know nowt about it.
I can't believe you haven't got a pre-launch sample, they should have sent one to you.
Will I buy one? Does the sun come up in the morning?
Currently, I have a 1b, 2b, a 4b 4GB, and a zero 2W , along with almost a dozen Pico variations. The Pis go in and out of use as I need them, while the Picos go into real world problem solving- a treadmill fan control, a defrost timer for a 20 year old upright freezer, a controller for a 20 year old dishwasher and a controller in waiting for when the timer on a 24 year old dryer gives up. I could have just bought new appliances but where's the fun in that, along with saving $Ks and the environment.
I am interested to see whether the Pi 5 will be able to encode 2 mjpeg streams from cheap HDMI capture devices, something the 4 was not quite up to for a single stream. That would save tens of KWh per month over the old x86 currently assigned to the task.
So many ideas, so little time...
I would like to see the powerconsumtion idle/full power.
Honestly disappointed. Still mini HDMI. No USB-C display. No 2.5 GB Ethernet. No NVMe. Sure you may say those are too lofty! But not really. NVMe is quite cheap these days. 2.5GbE is quickly becoming the norm and USB-C displays been the standard for years.
Who has a 2.5G link to the public internet though? I still think that's niche for the hobbyist.
Possible M.2 support is exciting and a step in the right direction. I was a little disappointed to see SD card on the 5, but glad to see bandwidth improvements. I would have preferred to see an actual slot for use as the main disk.
If you want the Pi to act as a NAS or some kind of home server then better Ethernet is always welcome.
Very disappointing. Get an Orange Pi 5 Plus.
A little confusing... How can the Cortex be getting 20amps from a 5v/5amp power supply?
Lower voltage - input = 5V@5A = 25W so if the Cortex wants 20A, it is likely running at 1.25V if not lower - that’s what the PMIC will be doing
@@Umski Thanks -- that was my assumption, but I didn't think the Cortex voltage could be that low.
@@arxaaron gone are the days of 5V and 3.3V logic - even SIM cards run on 1.8V these days - you don't really want high voltages for switching transistors at that kind of integration scale...
Big failure and end of the road for RPi. If they keep making $35 Rpi4, it will outsell this slightly improved version by a large margin.
I think you underestimate the volume of the product they ship. They still sell the original Raspberry Pi in huge numbers. It's used widely in industry in applications that favor stability and long-term support over performance.
Another perspective: their customers come from all walks of life. Some are hobbyists. Some are industry professionals. They will have different needs.
How is it the end of the road if the foundation is still making and selling the older models?
I hope there will be a Raspberry Pi 500. Currently, I only have a need for one of those. I use the Pi 3 and Pi 4 as servers, and they are fast enough for that purpose. However, the Pi 400 is used as an HTPC, so additional speed and hardware decoding capabilities would be most welcome.
If they do so, I hope it will come with the max DRAM config and not nobbled in that department, like the Pi400 was.
I was worried about the price when I saw all the options, but pleasantly surprised. Now... we just have to see how the Availability works out!
Yea now it's just seeing how the availability works out
What availability lol😂
You would think by now there would have been an audio CODEC. Just a really fast CPU and some PCIe . There are better boards than this already. Not that impressed. To be fair, I will educate myself more and may have a direerent opinion.
@@williammanganaro2022The Pi is already more than capable of encoding and decoding audio wdym
Hopefully made of obtainium this time.
These used to be cool for $35 years ago. Now it’s more expensive than Intel N CPU (N5105, N95, N100) after cooler, power adapter, case and SSD while having worse performance.
Unless you need GPIO or specific use case, these are not that good
Thanks Gary for great update. The fact that you have not received a RPI 5 for testing is only proof that you stand out critically, objectively and honestly and you deserve full trust from YT spectators. I will only buy the RPI 5 after you have tested it. I did this with RPI 4 and I have been very satisfied with it for over 3 years.
That is very kind of you. Much appreciated. 👍
Thanks Gary! Sucks to see you could not get access to a board! I know you will drop a great video when you do! Cant wait to see your review and hear your thoughts.
Thanks @gavinskurrie I don't know what I have done to offend them!
@GaryExplains so strange! You have released so many great RPi videos in the past and would be a great ally!
I know, right! I point that out to them in EVERY email I send!!! 🤷♂️
@@GaryExplainsThis is not a dig or anything and I don't know how you interact with them, but sometimes your responses can come off as aggressive. There is a chance you interacted with someone on their team and they didn't take it well or something. I personally don't actually care about this, I reply to your comments all the time here and there, I'm just making a guess based on observations.
I also know a lot of it comes from passion about the subject matter etc so I get it
@@AnesuC My interactions with the Raspberry Pi folks has been completely cordial and almost sycophantic on my part. I did a review of a Raspberry Pi board about 8 years ago (on AA) where I said that a different board could decode video faster than the Pi. Eben got in contact and we had a big meeting. I changed the article after they proved that a different video player app would perform better, but I couldn't change the video. Since then they have been cold towards me.
wow nice. but it would be superb if they produce 16GB ram :)
I've heard it's "likely" in the future. I forget where but it's one of the 4-5 reviews out today that actually have a unit to test (no shade to Gary intended). Perhaps it was the Explaining Computers review.
When the Raspberry Pi 5 comes, can you explain how you use the PCIe connector. Do you use a Flexible ribbon cable (15 or 16 pins?) and does it connect to an adapter for memory, or to a display?
Excellent video. Definitely getting one. Wasn't aware of RTC and power switch. Simple things like that are great to me.
omg it has a power button
I just want cheap Zero W's.
So, when will they be "out of stock" to buy?
When I tried using RPi 4 as a Steam Link, the decoder performance and latency was a bit underwhelming, so that's definitely something I'd like to see compared!
I wish they had Type-C ports as it means a world of dongles to use it, used the be the other way around a few years back but now everyone has adopted Type-C the role is reversed we all have Type-C devices no longer Type-A
I can imagine a market for Pi 5 cases with built in USB A to C developing.
No audio jack is a real bummer though
as with the RPI Zero, you can probably redirect the PWM audio signals to two GPIO pins, and add your own filter logic to get stereo output. if you want to use the PI5 as a base for your portable gaming machine. And there is also I2S audio on the GPIO, so you can connect a codec for high quality audio input and output
Add on to Martin, there is also HDMI. Since it's an Raspberry, I'm sure there will be a lot of attention and documented solutions/workarounds as this gets out into people's hands.
I just saw a video of network chuck and he was testing it and it seemed like it was struggling with one 4k video running locally. Granted, he was running dual monitors
Really would be interesting to see if the USB PD can use higher than 5V power. Because currently it seems that it requires a 5V 5A power supply which seems excessive and it's hard to come by unless you get their official power supply.
💯 this. I hope the board is designed to tolerate weaker power supplies for those who don't need to pull that much power.
If instead the board drops out with a less than ideal supply as previous boards would do, those bricks are fixing to get really expensive.
@@Henfredemars I think Jeff Geerling tested it and told that the previous 5V 3A supply from the Pi4 also works, but there may be some performance impace.
If what the other youtube content makers say, there will be huge demand.
The main thing about the Raspberry PI's are the turnkey working hobby examples with GPIO PWM, I2C, SPI, etc. support. 🥳 Spinoffs have little GPIO examples. 😎 Thank you.
Hi Gary, when your Pi5 arrives, I wonder if you can do a comparison between Intel J4125 (10watt) vs Pi5? Better yet N5105 (10Watt). How is the desktop experience? Power consumption (as a Ubuntu server / Node.js) 24x7x365 days?
I love the concept of the Raspberry Pi 400, integrating a full computer into a keyboard. I hope the Raspberry Pi Foundation considers creating a similar "Pi-500" based on the latest hardware when the time is right. In the meantime, I'm enjoying learning Linux and Amiga stuff with my Pi 400 and the excellent accompanying book!
I want to see a performance comparison with the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, to see how much we have advanced performance-wise, and budget-wise, in the 12 years between the two architectures (Core 2 vs A76 (yeah I know it's kind of apples to oranges, but anyway..), and also in the 16 years since we had PCIe 2.0 for the first time).
I’d like to know if I2C finally works. Yeah yeah bit bang. Specifically features like clock stretching. I have to use my Arduino boards for all my sensors that use stretching.
Why isn't anyone talking about availability?
I simple couldn't get my hands on one raspberry pi for ears, and in my country the biggest reseller put a cap limit of one raspberry/person. That means I am not able to buy it anymore and other suppliers just don't have it on stock, or if they do have it, it is gone in a matter of minutes.
Everyone has been talking about Pi availability for years now. The situation has improved a lot and will continue to improve.
I'm doubtful I'll be able to buy one of these for a long time, but in the blog post from the Raspberry Pi foundation It's clear that they're taking this seriously and implementing steps to improve the situation, like getting priority access to some individuals.
Of course, one needs to understand that these are not expensive boards by industry standards. There's not a lot of money to be made in their manufacturing, so they must compete for manufacturing time with more profitable products like cell phones.
I look at an RPI because it is cheap, easy to use, does not need a fan, and is fast enought for most applications.
The RPI 5 is a departure from this: now the fan is standard, and the price is significantly higher.
At the same time some fanless small factor PCs with N4000 processors are below $100 with storage, enclosure and power supply. The specs are better than the RPI 5.
I only hope that the RPI 5 will only extend the product line, not replace.
Whats the upgrade on its ISP
Rpi 4B has a maximum camera input of 1080p 30fps
Whats the upgrade on its ISP
Rpi 4B has a maximum camera input of 1080p 30fps
Thanks for the update! Just pre-ordered one too!
Have fun!
I’ve pre-ordered one. I’m mostly curious about retro gaming and NAS.
yes, active cooling is now recommended, when you really want to use the computer. Else it will be at 80°Celsius in a minute and throttle the CPU.
RP1 was a terrible choice in name for that IO chip. I'll be reading that as
Raspberry Pi 1 for a long time.
is it fast enough to run Vs Code with Platform IO so I can program my Arduino. 😅😅
but i just got a 4, 5 is like december in uk, still preorder. im just learning linix and some projects.. hhmm sell the 4 and get the 5.. hhmmm ??
These new A76 cores have cryptographic extensions, it will be interesting to compare hardware accelerated AES and SHA algorithms with the software implementations on the same hardware.
I'm glad that you called them extensions. It's very interesting to hear about the new core, but I'm really curious exactly what instructions they're going to support. The previous ones have been pretty restrictive understandably to keep the costs down.
Consider how popular TLS is these days. Using one of these as a small server could see a lot of crypto workload.
@@Henfredemars I experimented with nVidia Jetson - their CPUs support cryptographic extensions. I tested the AES algorithm in assembly (AESE, AESMC, AESD and AESIMC instructions). The encryption and decryption are tens of times faster than the software implementation. I'm sure there will be an image of OpenWRT for Rasberry Pi 5 soon.
I'd like to upgrade the Rpi2 home server. Care not at all about the video but the CPU is a nice step up.
Means the Pi 6 after this will then be priced in the triple digits and even more of a non-option after the "foundation" threw its original audience under the bus during the shortage to cater to commercial users.
Simple Question really: Will the beefier cooler fit in the case (when you remove the case fan) and does it still work properly inside the case? The cases are said to be stackable, how does that work and what does that mean for cooling (both with the included case fan and, assuming it works with the case, the board mounted cooler). Pretty stoked about this as I am using Pi 4 in places where it could do with more performance.
I just ordered mine! Let’s go. Got board, fan & psu great video
My concern is only about how is critical an active cooling for its normal functionality?
Love it!!, it's going to perform nicely for retrogaming
Looking forward to the Pi5 along with Konstakang's Android Desktop build (XDA Forums - assuming he'll Dev for the Pi5). #AndroidDesktop 👍
Please a link to his project
WTF? Still no storage onboard?
thats great news
A nice surprise and I will start saving up to get my RP5 8GB one as I can see this will be very suitable as a desktop computer running on very low power (8W max).👍😅
You'll save a whole 12 cents on power per year going this route!
This looks very promising
Thanks Gary
Great news Done right this report
I really wish they would have put an eMMC header on it. Then it would have been basically perfect.
Also the lack of 3.5 mm phone jack isn't good. I feel like they could have fit that on. Or at least a tiny header for it.
Something to test, can you take an existing Pi 4 Raspbian installation on an SD card and stick it straight in the new Pi 5, or is it recommended to install fresh?
I would 100% recommend a fresh install. I would imagine that the boot sequence has been updated to support the new hardware. But that could be an interesting experiment.
Still no sleep mode...
No NVM. What a shame.
Do you think these will be able to run LLMs?
I already have a video showing how you can run an LLM on a Pi 4, so obvious the Pi 5 can do it.
@@GaryExplains right, but I’m talking about what could be expected running an LLM on a Pi5 vs Pi4. Sounds like another TH-cam video topic for ya
Since the LLM projects like llama.cpp only use the CPU in the Raspberry Pi and the Pi 5 doesn't include a NPU, then the LLM will run 2 to 3 times faster, as this is the general bump in CPU performance.
@@GaryExplains what is llm?
Large Language Model like ChatGPT, LLAMA, Bard, etc.
Thanks Gary. I saw a couple of videos yesterday and figured that I'd buy one as soon as they are released. But somehow my finger slipped and I 'accidentally' placed my order ... it happens. Hopefully I'll have mine soon and will be able to play along at home.
I would like to know if they plan on making the Raspberry pi 500, any rumors? I don't think you would be able to swap out the pi 4 in the pi 400 with the pi 5.
I was waiting and expecting this video. Sad to see that Gary is not on the influencers list. Here's me engaging, so Mr. Gary gets more exposure.
Regarding what to do with it... well, efficiency benchmarks! I know this isn't Pi Pico, but I'm still curious. Also, how can that power delivery chip be used. Would it be possible to always have the current current draw in the taskbar ? Also, how accurate is it, if compared to what a smart plug/wattmeter shows ? Does it have only reading capabilities, or can it be interacted too ? Like setting a power limit ? Though I guess that if you know the power you're using, you can implement a power limit by simply downclocking when you read you're above the threshold. Also, for tasks that can be done by Pi 4, would this upgrade allow a lower power draw for the same task ? What is the lowest you can go in terms of power use ? Though I guess the last questions are a bit too generic :D
Given the improvements, a "Pi 5 500" keyBoard should be an actually decently usable computer.
Also, thanks Mr. Gary for the specs breakdown. Neat to see them all at a glance. And the power delivery details.
For testing ideas TH-cam playback would always be interesting (obviously). The H265 decoder hardware looks cool. Also sound quality through the HDMI now that 3.5mm stereo is gone.
I am interested in the hardware acceleration, because many Arm boards have struggled with this on Linux.
The only thing that excites me about this is that the camera connectors now use the same cable as the RPi Zero boards. That should mean that the cables will eventually be more readily available. I'm tired of buying cameras and having to throw away the included cables because they don't fit the RPi Zero connector. I only use RPis for battery powered projects so the RPi 5 isn't going to be something I have a lot of use for.
Soon the pi will grow into a mini pc
Indeed, in fact I think some people would consider it a mini PC already.
I can’t wait! Thanks for the video!
make a nice os version of your basic for it d:
That is great news! Still, 25W max is a big oof to me ( I know this isn't "real world power draw", but for extremely low power enthusiasts like me... that raises a red flag regarding power consumption. Hope I'm wrong.).
-EDIT Oh yeah. And also no nvme support for extra oof. "Gus stop being a hate--" nvme lasts "forever", you know.
Yeah I was concerned about this too. Initially, at least in Explaining Computer's review, it seems like the power consumption is somewhat on par with 4, or maybe only slightly higher. Still early too and RPi4 got lots of improvements over time with software updates etc.
One thing for sure though, is that RPi5 is more EFFICIENT. Performance per watt is much better according to Jeff Geerling's review.
finally, new toys to play with
I am too poor to buy a raspberry pi
finally 😂🎉👍👍👍
Pre-ordered mine 😊
Is a Bluetooth headset or speakers an option since there is no audio jack?
Yes, that should work. I have used this before with the previous board.
Nice one
This is great for us nerds but what do you do guys use this for (other than as a tinkering toy)?
Currently, I use my Pi 4 as a router running OpenWrt (with a USB Ethernet adapter to give it a second port so it can connect to my modem and my network switch/AP). OpenWrt allows me to have (1) network-wide adblock, (2) SQM for keeping Internet latency consistently low (less lag & jitter for video streaming, video chat, VoIP, multiplayer gaming, etc), (3) WireGuard VPN client with a commercial VPN provider, and (4) site-to-site WireGuard VPN with family. Pi 4 has a lot more compute power than a typical router, while being cheap and energy efficient.
Prior to that, I used it for retro game emulation with RetroPie. The Pi 4 can emulate up to PSP, N64, and Dreamcast. Pi 5 emulation performance remains to be seen, because will take time (months) for developers to optimize their software for it.
You can also use a Pi as media streaming box, a basic NAS, a cheap infotainment system for your car (Android Auto), digital signage for a business, or a cheap desktop computer for light use, etc. There are many different things you can use them for.
I'd like to see a performance comparison of Pi 5 to Pi 4 with no fan.
After four years, I expected more. They moved the ports again, so they could have made a longer board to support M.2 storage without a fragile ribbon cable. They could have put at least one full-sized HDMI port. It has no memory bump at launch, and Gordon Moore would be disappointed with its performance. With the recommended fan, the new power supply, and the HDMI adapter, the 8GB version tops $100 before M.2 adapter and sales tax. I'd rather have an Apple Pi. 😉
In spite of all this, I want one.
Inferior soc
i would be shock if no skip video on desktop but noh. same. so not 2 times faster. if 4k 30fps lag rpi4 this should be smoothlessd LOL, but what bout good old 1080 I STILL USE that was that last video format LOL. everything downscale smaller automatic and its faster lol lol 4k? what. you cant play games on 4k 8pixel font is so small even 46inch monitor, but its look good on steam deck. NO its too small i say it allready LOL steam deck is good for nes games
Yes, I was disappointed that they DIDN'T color the GPIO pins! You didn't mention the audio connector. I AM glad they added separate pins for the Fan, rather then using up 2 of the GPIO pins, which means blocking HAT boards to be plugged in! 👍
So, still no native support for booting off of SSD without a bunch of tricks instead of having to use the crappy MicroSD cards that fail all the time? The single biggest gripe I have heard about Rpi since day one was the reliance on those SD cards which have a terrible track record, and here we are at gen 5 and that still has not been addressed.
What bunch of tricks? Enabling USB boot mode is extremely easy. It can be done with a single command.
Yeah and just use a USB stick instead
You can boot FROM a SSD without a lot of hassle.
i always consider raspberry pis
but i want one that c an pull a desktop, because... why not
gen 4 can, but its choppy and kinda disappointing
i will of course watch your video on it, before spending a time, because im somewhat poor
A dime
Jeff Gerling and Explaining Computers were a little bit faster with their presentation of the RSPI 5.
Jeff Gerling and Explaining Computers were both sent pre-production boards to test and plenty of time to make their videos before the embargo date. Unfortunately I have asked the Raspberry Pi Foundation for the same access on multiple occasions, but I have been refused.
@suki4410 Seriously man what is the actual point of a comment like that ? What do you hope to achieve ?
This was a mild form of mocking, but Gary already explained his delay to us. He had no secret RP5 board to make his tests, as the other two had and this is cool with me.@@vincentdesjardins1354
@@vincentdesjardins1354LOL, ffs, i dont know if i prefer this comment of "you uploaded in 3rd place" or a dude that just says "first comment"
the fact they refused to even mention the sound at all leads me to believe the audio IC is still the absolute dogshit it always has been, but nothing a USB interface can't fix :)
The Pi 5 doesn't have a 3.5 mm jack, so you have to use HDMI, Bluetooth, or a USB DAC.