The Dutch ones have canons. Believe our F35 the only ones they fitted a canon on. No idea why they would want to add that weight and where they are thinking to use those. Shoot an incoming missile out of the air?
@@RobertoEarnywho Internal weapons bays make for either a bigger airframe or less onboard fuel. F-16 was built to be as minimalistic as possible. There is still something to be said for that.
@@Nickjustdabs These days it has a lot less weapons that the other aircraft it competes with. That puts it at a disadvantage. So not having to give up a hardpoint for a countermeasure pod is a very nice mod. For the counter missile roll that they are flying at the moment, more hardpoints would really help. It has the least of F15/18 and SU27/35 or any European fighter.
I mean, that's exactly what everyone sending weapons to Ukraine is doing. The cost of aid must be very healthily offset by the data they're collecting, not to mention the very convincing results that manufacturers can use to sell their products.
I guess the active countermeasure system that is installed on the Danish C-130 and I suspect also EH-101 (I noticed we have 82 systems, but fleet of F-16 + C-130 + EH-101 is less than 82) cna be tested but all the Danish F-16s have a recipient - either Ukraine, or Argentine. We are not keeping any once the F-35s are delivered, so testing F-16 exclusive components make little sense for RDAF.
Am I the only one who sees a problem with Ukraine posting on the internet exactly what the US gave them? Or are all the commenters on here Russians that are thanking this guy for the technical information?
@@michaeljorgensen790 western democracies required transparency so Russia would know anyway But if they don’t show their weapons being used, the Ukraine could get less in the future
@@avus-kw2f213 So the Biden/Harris Administration is subservient to what other "wesern democracies" want? It shouldn't be about Ukraine getting more stuff. It should be about ending the conflict. have lived through the weakness of the Carter years and this feels the same. I have the feeling that if Harris gets elected then these conflicts will continue. China will attack Taiwan. Cats will attack dogs. The whole world will be in pandamonium.
The ALQ-162 is a track breaker, it mostly focuses on disrupting a fire control radar or missile seeker. The Danish air force has used this family of Jammers since the F-35 Draken WDNS update which gave them ALQ-162 jammers with integrated dispenser buckets.
The F-16 was always meant to be a multi-role all-weather fighter. It quickly morphed into a multi-role fighter - bomber, simply because it could. It has plenty of hard points. I am by no means an expert, but I was a USAF F-16 Crew Chief way back in 1980. The single engine made it comparatively inexpensive, the first fly by wire ... made it handle like a dream. The thing to remember is multi-role doesn't mean multi role on each sortie. It means it is capable of being set up for different roles according to each mission. It was never meant to be the best at any of them, but it did so good at so many of them, that everyone snaps them up, right up to today. It's a great airframe. Pound for pound the best jet, maybe ever. You used to get a 9 G pin when you flew in one and hit 9 G's, I have one. It may not win the war... but used right, it will put on a pretty good show, wait and see. And remember, if we are seeing it, it's because Russia and everyone else already knows about it.
@keirfarnum6811 ha...I was multi-tasking. I hope the emails I was sending to my corporate office were better than that. I got it right once out of the 3 attempts at using the phrase. That would be a great average if this was baseball.
Thanks for this coverage... I was somewhat aware of this "pod" system, but you gave a nice explanation of the highlights, and I especially appreciated the notes about the UV sensors. Always worth watching, you do good work 👍.
This has to be the most relevant and fucking awesome upgrade to be added to Ukraine's F16 props on covering all of this, amazing presentation and work !
@@JarrodFrates Thanks, didn't know that. All threaded fastners on the F-16 are actually metric, dispite it being a '70s design. 1/32" is 0.8mm, which is excelent. F-16 are built tough.
I'm glad you made this video. So many people seem to think that bombs and missiles are just things you connect and then release, not considering the power, cooling, targetting, etc requirements.
Great technobable update on the pods. Clever development integrating weapons pylons with active electronics. Black box space is at a premium in military aircraft. I was a USMC avionics tech supporting A4E/F Skyhawks in the 1960s. Finding space to add ECM and missile warning systems was difficult. Back then avionics was not nearly as sophisticated but this was the tail end of vacuum tube (valves on the other side of the pond) era so gear was pretty bulky and power hungry.
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@@benvandermerwe4934 Don’t try to insult me and then say “peace to you”. Most creators like their long time subscribers to give input. When/if you grow up you’ll understand.
As a non tech person (although ex RAAF) I found the information interesting and now understand why the f16 is being so effective. The information was also delivered in a why that I could comprehend and understand why it was useful! 👍
Outstanding presentation of a very dense amount of information in a format that the widest range of viewers would be able to consume it without choking on it. Very well done. You managed to maintain my interest for the entire 8 minutes and 21 seconds of your presentation. I enjoy when I'm spoken to in a focused, serious, informative, and adult-like manner.Thank you.
We know Ukraine has IRIS-T Missiles for it's SAM systems and the F-16 MLU is capable of carrying those because the Norwegians used them. It's the exact same missiles they just need a software update going from one to the other which is done in minutes. SAAB makes chaff/flare dispensers that are built into the launch rails of air to air missiles. so with each Amraam or Sidewinder the jet carries you can also carry 120 flares.
IRIS-T are very limited in availability currently, so there would be a conflict between SLS ground-based and air-launched versions. Also even though an excellent missile, it has no data link (on the SLS and air-launched version at least) and has a small rocket motor. Therefore their range is limited, even compared to older AIM-120 AMRAAMs (think A/B and early C variants). Given those limitations, AIM-9(X) would be the better option (specially for downing drones and cruise missiles in the rear of the country).
@@stephanvelines7006 IRIS-T is better then AIM-9X datalink don't matter as IRIS-T has lock on after launch since inception. It's a short range missile so a datalink isn't needed anyway especially since it's only one way on the Sidewinder.
@@stephanvelines7006 Comparing the IRIS-T to the AIM-120B/C AMRAAM is not really a valid comparison as the IRIS-T is a short-range AAM while AIM-120B/C is a medium-range AAM (The AIM-120D is a long-range AAM).
@@Br1cht If you're referring the F-16 the Ukrainians lost the other day it would appear to be due to the Patriot missile batteries not receiving the F-16s current IFF codes.
I started following when you had several thousand subscribers. I’m very happy to see you surpass that 100K milestone. Your technically informative videos are increasingly appreciated. Thank you for providing more insightful details on these Ukrainian F-16 than others have to date.
The TERMA Pod is a missile warning system designed for the F-16 fighter aircraft. It provides passive infrared detection and tracking of incoming missiles, giving the pilot advanced warning of potential threats. The TERMA Pod's key features include: 1. Passive infrared detection: No radiation is emitted, making it difficult for enemies to detect. 2. 360-degree coverage: The pod provides complete spherical coverage around the aircraft. 3. Advanced algorithms: Sophisticated software analyzes sensor data to detect and track missiles. 4. High-speed processing: Rapid detection and tracking enable timely warnings. 5. Integration with aircraft systems: The pod interfaces with the F-16's avionics and countermeasures systems. The TERMA Pod enhances the F-16's survivability by: 1. Providing early warning of missile threats 2. Enabling timely deployment of countermeasures 3. Increasing pilot situational awareness This advanced missile warning system significantly improves the F-16's self-defense capabilities.
The f-16 will give Ukraine the ability to use so much more western weapons and electrical warfare technology than their older Soviet fleet regardless of them being an older variant.
Well, almost two months have gone by, and Ukraine is still not using those their F16s. Either they don't want the risk of being shot down, or they already have been shot down.
@@hokroegerno indication of them having been shot down, but 2 may have been destroyed in a hangar hit by a cruise missile last week. It's doubtful that they have all arrived anyway.
This is so smart it makes me wonder why it wasnt done before, pylons have always veen a part of the aircraft i saw as some kind of "unnecessary weight" aside ofcourse from being able to attach armaments to it. With all the different pylons there have been trough history its not like they werent thought thru, especially for the bigger ones, im surprised nothing like this really gained popularity till now. Awesome video!
@@milangacik994 lmao, it wouldn't have guidance if there was a plasma shield at terminal phase and there's a lot of warning time when the MIG-31K take off from its home airbase, please try not to talk about things you have no Idea about.
Appreciate the unbiased in depth technical reviews on hot button items :). As a current USAF F16 crew chief it is fascinating to see what is being developed for these aircraft
Only problem with UKR F16 defensive measures is Range. If the F16s plan on basing from the Western Airfields then they will need to carry external fuel tanks.
The whole war is a massive money laundering operation by politicians in Washington. The US taxpayer will *never* see those 250+ billion back, but Lockheed Martin, Raytheos et al. Did get their sales
"Front line all mission platform"?????? Are you joking?? That's like saying the Mig 21 with up-grades is a front line all mission platform. Seriously, get your head out of your USA arse.
@@Kysushanz it is you that has to pull his head out of his arse. Take a look around the world and see how many of these old jets are still the main stay of many air forces. Used correctly, within a full air plan, by properly trained pilots, it is still an airframe that is hard to beat. Take a look at the win loss record, it isn't perfect, but it's still pretty Fn good. We know where you're from, and the whole military system there is simply second rate, from the top to the bottom, from one service to the next. Seeing that must be hurting your feelings. Wake TFU and join the 21st century. Migs barley make it from the factory before they become obsolete, they will never enjoy the longevity of a F-16, or a F-15, an A-10, or a AC-130... I could go on and on. The reason for that is because the whole country is as backward and corrupt as the military.
Way back in the mid 90s, I was doing some instructional work for the USAF and it became clear to me that the F16 that was in our inventory was VERY different than the EXPORT model sold to other countries. The version sold to Japan, for example, was different than ours and had some capabilities that exceeded ours. But that makes sense because each importing country has its own geographical and political situation to consider. After all, high-end engineering is a process of balancing numerous tradeoffs to render an optimal design.
yes its called F2 and has maritime painting for anti ship missions. I also think they are bigger, they for sure can carry more weapons than the F16, again its meant for ship hunting.
I am not from Ukrainian air force myself, but my friends say that our F-16's is a wierd mix of very old airframes with alot of faulty circuitry and hidraulics. At the same time we have ALOT of unpublicly donated sci-fi-ish pre-serial prototype modules some countries developed as and upgrade to their fleet but they did not go to mass production because of switch to F-35. So basically we operate old and worn platforms that barely hold it together with animesque futuristic gear strapped on them. God help our pilots and technicians to handle all of that.
@@givemeabreak8784 Too early to say if rubbish, game-breaker or just meh. It could be our maintenance guys will do the impossible and fix those airframes back to the top shape. Also could be they fail and Ukrainian F-16 will be inoperable because of too much non-combat losses. Or too many runways will get wrecked by Russian missles. Also I'm a war veteran so please think first write later.
@@ThaidoryI think you get what the west can afford to give without compromising entirely our own defence. I think the state of them is a reflection on the underspending of most of NATO over the last 3 decades rather than intentionally giving you old worn out gear. Same with us Aussies offering you F18s, we only had old planes to give, we need the others and more for when it becomes a global war and China. Slava Ukraine! And if I had my way the Aussie Air Force would be training for that war by defending your skies..
Hi M7! Yes ,Ukr. AF F-16AM got German-made AN/AAR-60 as UV not IR band MAWS , part of that PIDS+ pods. Very interestingly 'cause UV detectors have some advantages over IR detectors. One of the main advantages is that the UV detector has a longer detection/tracking range of incoming AAM/SAM which fly in the passive/inertion (after acceleration or rocket engine burn ) stage.From the tactical/technical point of view, it is very innovative for one 4 gen fighter. For comparison ,only RuA&SF operational fighter which has UV band MAWS is the Su-57 with that 101KS-U ( Ultraviolet) detectors ,two besides the cockpit for lateral angles and two blocks ,one under the fuselage ( below the cockpit) for lower front and rear hemisphere and another one on the upper side of the tail boom for upper front and rear hemisphere. What we can see at 5:30 are IRST/combat self-defence laser blocks known as 101KS-O ( Oborona or defence). Both of them have MWIR band IRST sensor with generator of monopulse laser beam for blinding not only IR guided head of AAM ( during WVR aerial combat/dogfight) but for blinding laser proximity fuses of incoming AAM/SAM and for blinding all optics on enemy fighter during WVR combat ( IRST/LR block, HMD/JHMCS set etc). Another combat aircraft with UV-band MAWS in RuA&SF inventory is assault aircraft Su-25SM3 and Su-35S from the new series which got UV-band MAWS called 'Zakhvat' from the Su-25SM3! If we talk about real possibilities of that UV MAWS on PIDS+ pods against Russian AAM, it is very questionable because Russians have one very innovative solution against them with very simple 'color' detail on their new AAM like R-37M , R-77-1 and R-74(L, M and ML). Another detail about that ECIPS+ pods /AN/ALQ-162(V)6/ is that new Russian AAM ( R-37M and R-77-1 ) have dual-band radar seekers where Ku-band ( 12-18GHz) ARH mode and X-band( 8-12GHz) SARH mode can work either simultaneously or separately. It is very hard ,practically impossible to jam a radar seeker when it works in dual-band mode at the same time.For me another technical detail is also very interesting ,it is the passive ( radio-goniometry ) antenna which we can see at 0:05 on the wing leading edge ( wing slat) . It is very similar to the passive radio-pelengation antenna of the RWR/ESM system SPO-32 Pastel ( L150-35) on the Su-35S . I suppose that it is capable of detecting/registering and processing radar signals sent from AESA radars like N036 Byelka on Su-57 which have very big frequency agility.
Great content here! I appreciate this thoughtful description and analysis. It’s becoming rare in videos discussing the Russo-Ukrainian war where a priori ideological pabulum typically transcends reason, logic, knowledge & experience. Unfortunately the TH-cam algo rarely rewards what we most need. But I will try to reward your efforts with a financial contribution so you can feed your starving Roomba. You good sir may stay clear of the dirt, muck and mire, but the little guy thrives on it. Thusly I will refer to him as CNN from now on.
Amazing video . Quite frankly I’m lost 😂 The level of information is very high and clearly explained . It makes me aware of how complex these systems are . Fascinating .
F-16 has massive pods for electronic warfare, ground radars, counter measures but ofc in a squadron only few planes carry them while others carry payload. The problem with Ukrainian F-16s they didn't even receive enough planes to form a single squadron..
The Belgian F-16s are also equipped with these pods! It's a nice addition to the F16 MLU, if you take in mind that these aircraft where originally F-16 A&B models, constantly upgraded thru the years so it's still a capable combat aircraft.
One reason why you don’t see many around, besides it being a Danish product for Danish f-16’s, it’s probably that they become significantly more expensive. And since pylons are still subject to ejection, it’d be an existing pylon to eject. As for amraam B’s, that might be an export restriction. Not all weapons make it to all countries. Whereas many airframes may be exported to friendly nations, some of their ammunition may not.
So.. Blinding it (and I guess all other missile warning systems, since UV is the only spectrum they seem to be able to operate in?) would take a rangefinder, a UV laser with a lens allowing for targeting and another used to spread the beam according to target distance. And if you upgrade the laser to have a dot blacked out and accelerate the dots' movement across the beam diameter as it's simulating the missile coming closer, you might even manage to trigger the warning system. And if that is accurate, release flares or trigger other countermeasures it may be hooked up to.
This is the first of your videos I've seen, and I think you did an excellent job. Also, I was unaware these pylons even existed before now, so I've already learned something from you. I've subscribed!
Adding the feature as a pass-through pylon adapter is nice work - I guess apart from 'false noses' there aren't that many opportunities on faster airframes to add more stuff.
What I hear there a lot of surprises in these planes. The Russian trills thought they where gonna be off-the-rack as we stay. The SU-35 better be careful, as well as the 2 functioning SU-57
Seems like that system didn't help the pilot which apparently got shot down by a friendly patriot system. If that system can't survive a patriot, I'm not sure it can fare any better against better Russian A/D and air force.
there isnt any proof it was shot down by a patriot nor a statement from the ukrainian side, so its just a conjecture lol. What most likely happened is that it flew to close to the drone to get a gun kill. Something similar happened to a MIG-29 like 1 or 2 years ago. Although in that case pilot ejected. Basically the issue is lack of missiles
I wonder if 60 GHz radar is used for close distances. 60Gigs is quickly attenuated in atmosphere which would prevent jamming from a distance and eliminate distant radar reflections for better signal to noise. Also 60Gig radar could be used without revealing the aircraft emission to distant antenna detectors
But will it work in actual combat? How much more weight will be added to the airframe? Being former military all the cool stuff works great until you are being shot back at. I wonder how this pod works against multiple missiles coming from ground launched and air launched to a targeted aircraft? It’s not like the Russians do not know about these pods it will be no surprise to them.
Biggest threat the Ukranian jets are Gona face in their job is Manpads. One of the strengths of that system is it's used so close the pilot has little chance to react. This means he doesn't have too wry. The pilots can afford to be a bit reactionary instead of having to play it too safe.
Man pads are only effective if the target is low and slow.. They'll have little to no warning that an F-16 is coming, and even less time to shoot at it
MAWS is usually IR based, for 1st time hearing as UV based. IR based counter measure also 1st time hearing. I thought sensor as laser detection and reconnasance pod substitute😅
Those uv sensors would be handy for short range ir guided missiles, but not so much for radar guided which have usually burned out and are coasting by the time they get into detection range.
A good edition the Demark made pylon gives a good all around defensive stat to all of Ukraine's planes. it was necessary to use this pylon to have a fast way to use the more advanced European weaponry. KEPD 350 and the Meteor missile is an good example. The F16 radar has a maximum range of 80 km but the Meteor missile has an engagement range of 200 km +. Sweden has already given two ASC 890 (Airborne Surveillance and Control) to maximize these planes offensive capability.
A youtuber thanking for our time at the end of the video... That's new. Thank you for preparing the video for us. A true gentleman!
This is going to get him a lot of subs. He definitely got one from me !
@@KlausEichmann45 subs are not gonna save them from crashing. sad !
Clever upgrade for an aircraft that in this day and age finds itself a little short on hardpoints.
The Dutch ones have canons. Believe our F35 the only ones they fitted a canon on. No idea why they would want to add that weight and where they are thinking to use those. Shoot an incoming missile out of the air?
and internal fuselage space .
@@RobertoEarnywho Internal weapons bays make for either a bigger airframe or less onboard fuel. F-16 was built to be as minimalistic as possible. There is still something to be said for that.
It has just enough by design any more would be inefficient
@@Nickjustdabs These days it has a lot less weapons that the other aircraft it competes with. That puts it at a disadvantage. So not having to give up a hardpoint for a countermeasure pod is a very nice mod. For the counter missile roll that they are flying at the moment, more hardpoints would really help. It has the least of F15/18 and SU27/35 or any European fighter.
Including these systems was a smart move by the Danes & Dutch. They get to test their system against the very weapons Russia would be using.
Testing grounds is the best way to describe it.
"Active battlefield laboratory."
Scandinavian
I mean, that's exactly what everyone sending weapons to Ukraine is doing. The cost of aid must be very healthily offset by the data they're collecting, not to mention the very convincing results that manufacturers can use to sell their products.
I guess the active countermeasure system that is installed on the Danish C-130 and I suspect also EH-101 (I noticed we have 82 systems, but fleet of F-16 + C-130 + EH-101 is less than 82) cna be tested but all the Danish F-16s have a recipient - either Ukraine, or Argentine. We are not keeping any once the F-35s are delivered, so testing F-16 exclusive components make little sense for RDAF.
They are on the Danish F-16:s, I have photos from 2017 I took myself of these. Same stores...
Please share the photos, if you can.
And also on Dutch and Belgium F-16's.
You will be in the market for air-raid sirens then
@@des_smith7658 Don’t worry, we’ve had them for the last century
You're really slow - And this is not the only thing that is special about these birds.@@Millennium7HistoryTech
Thanks Otis for your hard work researching this.
This is the only place that regularly covers in depth technical information on seemingly minor stuff on TH-cam
(That I can’t find)
nothing is minor when you are a flying target.....best video on F16 yet. Keep up the good work. Subscribed.
@@750suzuki “seemingly”
Am I the only one who sees a problem with Ukraine posting on the internet exactly what the US gave them?
Or are all the commenters on here Russians that are thanking this guy for the technical information?
@@michaeljorgensen790 western democracies required transparency so Russia would know anyway
But if they don’t show their weapons being used, the Ukraine could get less in the future
@@avus-kw2f213 So the Biden/Harris Administration is subservient to what other "wesern democracies" want? It shouldn't be about Ukraine getting more stuff. It should be about ending the conflict. have lived through the weakness of the Carter years and this feels the same. I have the feeling that if Harris gets elected then these conflicts will continue. China will attack Taiwan. Cats will attack dogs. The whole world will be in pandamonium.
The ALQ-162 is a track breaker, it mostly focuses on disrupting a fire control radar or missile seeker.
The Danish air force has used this family of Jammers since the F-35 Draken WDNS update which gave them ALQ-162 jammers with integrated dispenser buckets.
Du glaubst dsa die Ukraine die neueste Technik bekommt? Träum weiter, dort wird altes Gerät verschenkt was der Vorbesitzer los werden wollte.
you mean Saab 35 Draken? :)
@@PunaJussi Known as F-35 in Danish service
@@Anfros.Didn't know that.. cool:)
What happened with the f-16 that was hit by a friendly misil?
For the lay person, like myself, you are an extraordinary teacher! Seriously!
The F-16 was always meant to be a multi-role all-weather fighter. It quickly morphed into a multi-role fighter - bomber, simply because it could. It has plenty of hard points. I am by no means an expert, but I was a USAF F-16 Crew Chief way back in 1980. The single engine made it comparatively inexpensive, the first fly by wire ... made it handle like a dream. The thing to remember is multi-role doesn't mean multi role on each sortie. It means it is capable of being set up for different roles according to each mission. It was never meant to be the best at any of them, but it did so good at so many of them, that everyone snaps them up, right up to today. It's a great airframe. Pound for pound the best jet, maybe ever. You used to get a 9 G pin when you flew in one and hit 9 G's, I have one. It may not win the war... but used right, it will put on a pretty good show, wait and see. And remember, if we are seeing it, it's because Russia and everyone else already knows about it.
'role'
“Multi-roll?” You mean it can do barrel rolls over and over again? 😁
“Multi-role”.
@keirfarnum6811 ha...I was multi-tasking. I hope the emails I was sending to my corporate office were better than that. I got it right once out of the 3 attempts at using the phrase. That would be a great average if this was baseball.
@abrogard142 Thanks for the correction. I can use all the help I can get.
The F-8 was the first American fly-by-wire jet. The F-16 was the first American relaxed-stability jet.
I like this channel. It has a very simple yet informative format. No flashy attention grabbing stuff. Just straight to the point.
😊 thank you for covering this development on the
F 16s sent to Ukraine.
Bravo, short, very informative and very interesting. These snippets make my mornings. Anything to make these capable but old aircraft more survivable
Thanks for this coverage... I was somewhat aware of this "pod" system, but you gave a nice explanation of the highlights, and I especially appreciated the notes about the UV sensors.
Always worth watching, you do good work 👍.
"Look at this. Do you notice anything strange?" Ok, I think it's a little weird you outline all of your furniture in blue LEDS strips.🤣
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🤣🤣 Might give his studio room more usable light with minimal camera effect.
Ha ha !!
This has to be the most relevant and fucking awesome upgrade to be added to Ukraine's F16
props on covering all of this, amazing presentation and work !
F-16s are not unlike a LEGO kit. Bolt on. Bolt off.
It's built to millimeter precision.
@@trespire They're a mid-1970s design. That means they're built to 1/32" precision.
@@JarrodFrates Thanks, didn't know that. All threaded fastners on the F-16 are actually metric, dispite it being a '70s design. 1/32" is 0.8mm, which is excelent. F-16 are built tough.
Using profanity to Express oneself shows lack of education.
@@Morpheus187 Not able to cope with unappologetic harsh words shows lack of maturity.
The older sidewinders are still useful for destroying cruise missles and drones from a safe distance. That pod is cool for survival.
I'm glad you made this video. So many people seem to think that bombs and missiles are just things you connect and then release, not considering the power, cooling, targetting, etc requirements.
Great technobable update on the pods. Clever development integrating weapons pylons with active electronics. Black box space is at a premium in military aircraft. I was a USMC avionics tech supporting A4E/F Skyhawks in the 1960s. Finding space to add ECM and missile warning systems was difficult. Back then avionics was not nearly as sophisticated but this was the tail end of vacuum tube (valves on the other side of the pond) era so gear was pretty bulky and power hungry.
I wish you’d let the graphics and charts stay up just a little longer. I know I can always rewind and then pause but that gets tedious.
Space bar will pause
Your laziness is not the thousands of subscriber's problem. Download video and re-edit to suit your needs.
This is his style and method and we respect that. Peace to you. 🥃🖖🏻
@@jgarbo3541 I’m watching on TV.
@@benvandermerwe4934 Don’t try to insult me and then say “peace to you”. Most creators like their long time subscribers to give input. When/if you grow up you’ll understand.
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As a non tech person (although ex RAAF) I found the information interesting and now understand why the f16 is being so effective. The information was also delivered in a why that I could comprehend and understand why it was useful! 👍
Outstanding presentation of a very dense amount of information in a format that the widest range of viewers would be able to consume it without choking on it. Very well done. You managed to maintain my interest for the entire 8 minutes and 21 seconds of your presentation. I enjoy when I'm spoken to in a focused, serious, informative, and adult-like manner.Thank you.
A correction, when talking about 1760 standard, the "fibre channel" is coax and NOT fibre optics despite the terminology.
We know Ukraine has IRIS-T Missiles for it's SAM systems and the F-16 MLU is capable of carrying those because the Norwegians used them.
It's the exact same missiles they just need a software update going from one to the other which is done in minutes.
SAAB makes chaff/flare dispensers that are built into the launch rails of air to air missiles. so with each Amraam or Sidewinder the jet carries you can also carry 120 flares.
IRIS-T are very limited in availability currently, so there would be a conflict between SLS ground-based and air-launched versions.
Also even though an excellent missile, it has no data link (on the SLS and air-launched version at least) and has a small rocket motor. Therefore their range is limited, even compared to older AIM-120 AMRAAMs (think A/B and early C variants).
Given those limitations, AIM-9(X) would be the better option (specially for downing drones and cruise missiles in the rear of the country).
@@stephanvelines7006 IRIS-T is better then AIM-9X datalink don't matter as IRIS-T has lock on after launch since inception.
It's a short range missile so a datalink isn't needed anyway especially since it's only one way on the Sidewinder.
@@stephanvelines7006 Comparing the IRIS-T to the AIM-120B/C AMRAAM is not really a valid comparison as the IRIS-T is a short-range AAM while AIM-120B/C is a medium-range AAM (The AIM-120D is a long-range AAM).
And still it get shot down easily, too old.
@@Br1cht If you're referring the F-16 the Ukrainians lost the other day it would appear to be due to the Patriot missile batteries not receiving the F-16s current IFF codes.
I read about these systems a few weeks ago I think on The Military Channel. I just hope that it makes the Falcons even more survivable in combat.
Does, statistically. WOuldn't use the word "even" though. They were never used against a competent force armed with contemporary designs.
not for UA air force as they are nit likely to seek out a close range engagements.
Those dudes are lying to you
@@Remix2366who are lying?
@@Remix2366Russians always lie. We are used to it and take it into account. 👍🤷
I started following when you had several thousand subscribers. I’m very happy to see you surpass that 100K milestone. Your technically informative videos are increasingly appreciated. Thank you for providing more insightful details on these Ukrainian F-16 than others have to date.
Thanks for this! You provide those interesting insights and details that it's not easy to find otherwise. I'm happy I found your channel!
Very interesting, thank you.
The TERMA Pod is a missile warning system designed for the F-16 fighter aircraft. It provides passive infrared detection and tracking of incoming missiles, giving the pilot advanced warning of potential threats.
The TERMA Pod's key features include:
1. Passive infrared detection: No radiation is emitted, making it difficult for enemies to detect.
2. 360-degree coverage: The pod provides complete spherical coverage around the aircraft.
3. Advanced algorithms: Sophisticated software analyzes sensor data to detect and track missiles.
4. High-speed processing: Rapid detection and tracking enable timely warnings.
5. Integration with aircraft systems: The pod interfaces with the F-16's avionics and countermeasures systems.
The TERMA Pod enhances the F-16's survivability by:
1. Providing early warning of missile threats
2. Enabling timely deployment of countermeasures
3. Increasing pilot situational awareness
This advanced missile warning system significantly improves the F-16's self-defense capabilities.
The f-16 will give Ukraine the ability to use so much more western weapons and electrical warfare technology than their older Soviet fleet regardless of them being an older variant.
Well, almost two months have gone by, and Ukraine is still not using those their F16s. Either they don't want the risk of being shot down, or they already have been shot down.
@@hokroegerno indication of them having been shot down, but 2 may have been destroyed in a hangar hit by a cruise missile last week. It's doubtful that they have all arrived anyway.
@@hokroeger they are using them, you can look it up
@@hokroegerThey are they shot down a host of Cruise missiles the last week
@@ulrichkristensen4087 That's what Kiev cliams, but no evidence, no proof.
First time viewing your channel. I'm very impressed, thanks! I'm not sure we needed the voltage stats but overall 5/5 !
This is so smart it makes me wonder why it wasnt done before, pylons have always veen a part of the aircraft i saw as some kind of "unnecessary weight" aside ofcourse from being able to attach armaments to it. With all the different pylons there have been trough history its not like they werent thought thru, especially for the bigger ones, im surprised nothing like this really gained popularity till now.
Awesome video!
Update: This F-16 was destroyed on the airfield
that's crazy, obviously didn't expect that in a war😂
lmao at least check your sources
it was an F-16 on Belgian airfield.
@@ashblythe9598 Last thing pilot saw was warning of incoming missile... Wait, he didn´t see anything. Kinzhal flies in plasma shield.
@@milangacik994 lmao, it wouldn't have guidance if there was a plasma shield at terminal phase and there's a lot of warning time when the MIG-31K take off from its home airbase, please try not to talk about things you have no Idea about.
1:27 In that case, somebody should make a targeting pod pylon. Save a station from being used up on a t-pod
That has already existed for decades. Who told you otherwise?
@@sorincaladera936
Nobody, What's it called?
I've only ever seen regular t-pods that use up a pylon
The F-16 uses the “chin” pylons for the targeting pods, ie, 2 pylons left/right on the intake that cannot carry weapons.
@@jsva8661
Really?
Why can't they carry weapons though?
@@MostlyPennyCat structural reasons. Those 2 stations have structural limitations. Not sure if those old ones have them to be fair.
The title is somewhat click-bait-ish but the content is great. Thanks.
Thank you. Nice info.
Appreciate the unbiased in depth technical reviews on hot button items :). As a current USAF F16 crew chief it is fascinating to see what is being developed for these aircraft
Only problem with UKR F16 defensive measures is Range. If the F16s plan on basing from the Western Airfields then they will need to carry external fuel tanks.
Would you call me a idiot for saying that these F-16 are too late and pointless? This smells to me like a weapons test.
The whole war is a massive money laundering operation by politicians in Washington. The US taxpayer will *never* see those 250+ billion back, but Lockheed Martin, Raytheos et al. Did get their sales
That acts like a MAW system with full 360° horizontal FOV if its on both sides, with increased amount of countermeasures.
Nice to see a USA airplane designed 50 years ago is still upgraded to be a modern front line all-mission platform.
USA!🇺🇲 👍🫡
"Front line all mission platform"?????? Are you joking?? That's like saying the Mig 21 with up-grades is a front line all mission platform. Seriously, get your head out of your USA arse.
@Kysushanz you sound mean and I'd reckon you suck too. 😮🤷
@@Kysushanz it is you that has to pull his head out of his arse. Take a look around the world and see how many of these old jets are still the main stay of many air forces. Used correctly, within a full air plan, by properly trained pilots, it is still an airframe that is hard to beat. Take a look at the win loss record, it isn't perfect, but it's still pretty Fn good. We know where you're from, and the whole military system there is simply second rate, from the top to the bottom, from one service to the next. Seeing that must be hurting your feelings. Wake TFU and join the 21st century. Migs barley make it from the factory before they become obsolete, they will never enjoy the longevity of a F-16, or a F-15, an A-10, or a AC-130... I could go on and on. The reason for that is because the whole country is as backward and corrupt as the military.
@@Kysushanzyes the F16 is capable of serving on the frontlines. It has for decades.
1:05. the station used us probably wrong. The aim9 blocks the dispensers
Way back in the mid 90s, I was doing some instructional work for the USAF and it became clear to me that the F16 that was in our inventory was VERY different than the EXPORT model sold to other countries. The version sold to Japan, for example, was different than ours and had some capabilities that exceeded ours. But that makes sense because each importing country has its own geographical and political situation to consider. After all, high-end engineering is a process of balancing numerous tradeoffs to render an optimal design.
What Japan has aren't F-16s those are Mitsubishi F-2s it's like a 16 but way different.
Japan doesn’t have F-16s.
yes its called F2 and has maritime painting for anti ship missions. I also think they are bigger, they for sure can carry more weapons than the F16, again its meant for ship hunting.
@@Jesus_was_God Thank you. I have been repeatedly corrected for my error. Maybe it was South Korea, I was focused on other things...
Thank you for this unique perspective. ECIPS+ sounds like wizardry to me.
I am not from Ukrainian air force myself, but my friends say that our F-16's is a wierd mix of very old airframes with alot of faulty circuitry and hidraulics. At the same time we have ALOT of unpublicly donated sci-fi-ish pre-serial prototype modules some countries developed as and upgrade to their fleet but they did not go to mass production because of switch to F-35.
So basically we operate old and worn platforms that barely hold it together with animesque futuristic gear strapped on them. God help our pilots and technicians to handle all of that.
Sounds like a nightmare to repair/maintain
And you are the keyboard warrior telling us that Danish stuff is rubbish 😁😁
My cousins sisters brothers uncle said it was true…..
@@givemeabreak8784 Too early to say if rubbish, game-breaker or just meh. It could be our maintenance guys will do the impossible and fix those airframes back to the top shape. Also could be they fail and Ukrainian F-16 will be inoperable because of too much non-combat losses. Or too many runways will get wrecked by Russian missles.
Also I'm a war veteran so please think first write later.
@@ThaidoryI think you get what the west can afford to give without compromising entirely our own defence. I think the state of them is a reflection on the underspending of most of NATO over the last 3 decades rather than intentionally giving you old worn out gear. Same with us Aussies offering you F18s, we only had old planes to give, we need the others and more for when it becomes a global war and China.
Slava Ukraine! And if I had my way the Aussie Air Force would be training for that war by defending your skies..
The sidewinder is very old and doesn't need any changes..it works fine.
Remember that the F16's supplied to Ukraine are the older models. The current F16's are radically updated and almost a different type of aircraft.
That’s not true they said the same thing about the Abram’s tanks and that was debunk o most immediately
@@Rusia564 Believe whatever nonsense you like. It doesn't alter the facts🤦♂️🤣
@@Rusia564they were block 30, the newst block is 70? They are older versions nomatter how you twist it.
Dude - you look really good. You just keep getting better at this and I for one appreciate the content. Thank you again.
Thank you for the story and technical data.
I hope the supply chain system is reliable too.
Glory to Ukraine.
Hi M7!
Yes ,Ukr. AF F-16AM got German-made AN/AAR-60 as UV not IR band MAWS , part of that PIDS+ pods. Very interestingly 'cause UV detectors have some advantages over IR detectors. One of the main advantages is that the UV detector has a longer detection/tracking range of incoming AAM/SAM which fly in the passive/inertion (after acceleration or rocket engine burn ) stage.From the tactical/technical point of view, it is very innovative for one 4 gen fighter. For comparison ,only RuA&SF operational fighter which has UV band MAWS is the Su-57 with that 101KS-U ( Ultraviolet) detectors ,two besides the cockpit for lateral angles and two blocks ,one under the fuselage ( below the cockpit) for lower front and rear hemisphere and another one on the upper side of the tail boom for upper front and rear hemisphere. What we can see at 5:30 are IRST/combat self-defence laser blocks known as 101KS-O ( Oborona or defence).
Both of them have MWIR band IRST sensor with generator of monopulse laser beam for blinding not only IR guided head of AAM ( during WVR aerial combat/dogfight) but for blinding laser proximity fuses of incoming AAM/SAM and for blinding all optics on enemy fighter during WVR combat ( IRST/LR block, HMD/JHMCS set etc). Another combat aircraft with UV-band MAWS in RuA&SF inventory is assault aircraft Su-25SM3 and Su-35S from the new series which got UV-band MAWS called 'Zakhvat' from the Su-25SM3! If we talk about real possibilities of that UV MAWS on PIDS+ pods against Russian AAM, it is very questionable because Russians have one very innovative solution against them with very simple 'color' detail on their new AAM like R-37M , R-77-1 and R-74(L, M and ML). Another detail about that ECIPS+ pods /AN/ALQ-162(V)6/ is that new Russian AAM ( R-37M and R-77-1 ) have dual-band radar seekers where Ku-band ( 12-18GHz) ARH mode and X-band( 8-12GHz) SARH mode can work either simultaneously or separately.
It is very hard ,practically impossible to jam a radar seeker when it works in dual-band mode at the same time.For me another technical detail is also very interesting ,it is the passive ( radio-goniometry ) antenna which we can see at 0:05 on the wing leading edge ( wing slat) . It is very similar to the passive radio-pelengation antenna of the RWR/ESM system SPO-32 Pastel ( L150-35) on the Su-35S . I suppose that it is capable of detecting/registering and processing radar signals sent from AESA radars like N036 Byelka on Su-57 which have very big frequency agility.
Great content here! I appreciate this thoughtful description and analysis. It’s becoming rare in videos discussing the Russo-Ukrainian war where a priori ideological pabulum typically transcends reason, logic, knowledge & experience. Unfortunately the TH-cam algo rarely rewards what we most need. But I will try to reward your efforts with a financial contribution so you can feed your starving Roomba. You good sir may stay clear of the dirt, muck and mire, but the little guy thrives on it. Thusly I will refer to him as CNN from now on.
Amazing video . Quite frankly I’m lost 😂 The level of information is very high and clearly explained . It makes me aware of how complex these systems are . Fascinating .
F-16 has massive pods for electronic warfare, ground radars, counter measures but ofc in a squadron only few planes carry them while others carry payload. The problem with Ukrainian F-16s they didn't even receive enough planes to form a single squadron..
I mean I recall you straight said they weren't coming, so in comparison I'll take strange.
I didn’t. Watch that video
The Belgian F-16s are also equipped with these pods! It's a nice addition to the F16 MLU, if you take in mind that these aircraft where originally F-16 A&B models, constantly upgraded thru the years so it's still a capable combat aircraft.
Interesting device, we should expect that on the Argentinian F-16, right?
in the Argentine specialized forums say that they're included, it was also mounted in the F-16 exhibited on the purchase press announcement
A lot of great information that I was not aware of. Thank you. Great show.
One reason why you don’t see many around, besides it being a Danish product for Danish f-16’s, it’s probably that they become significantly more expensive. And since pylons are still subject to ejection, it’d be an existing pylon to eject.
As for amraam B’s, that might be an export restriction. Not all weapons make it to all countries. Whereas many airframes may be exported to friendly nations, some of their ammunition may not.
I first found out about these pylons when the Dutch F-16 was added to WT
Love seeing an F-16 with a Ukrainian shield on the horizontal stabilizer. Beautiful!
So why can't they do all of these updates and bring back the F-4?
I'm biased. It's my favorite fighter plane.
Good luck with your book man!! I hope I will be able to contribute soon. You more than deserve it.
I really hope that these aircraft and systems make a difference for Ukraine. Very informative video.
I actually got it! Thanks for that, excellent explanation!
This is a great explaination, for those of us who are interested.
Aegentina bought F16 from Denmark and they have the same therma pilons installed, i think they all have.
So.. Blinding it (and I guess all other missile warning systems, since UV is the only spectrum they seem to be able to operate in?) would take a rangefinder, a UV laser with a lens allowing for targeting and another used to spread the beam according to target distance. And if you upgrade the laser to have a dot blacked out and accelerate the dots' movement across the beam diameter as it's simulating the missile coming closer, you might even manage to trigger the warning system. And if that is accurate, release flares or trigger other countermeasures it may be hooked up to.
That's one hell of a self defense upgrade doubling as a pylon rather that using one up.
This is the first of your videos I've seen, and I think you did an excellent job. Also, I was unaware these pylons even existed before now, so I've already learned something from you. I've subscribed!
I had no idea su-57 had ability to blind heat seakers!
Heat sneakers? 😂😂😂
@@Vladimirthetiny heat stickers
As in sandals.
The small bulge between the two engine facing the rear has the hardware
@@Vladimirthetiny? Tf are those
Annnnd it just crashed.
Thanks, Millennium 7.
Adding the feature as a pass-through pylon adapter is nice work - I guess apart from 'false noses' there aren't that many opportunities on faster airframes to add more stuff.
Excellent video!
What I hear there a lot of surprises in these planes. The Russian trills thought they where gonna be off-the-rack as we stay. The SU-35 better be careful, as well as the 2 functioning SU-57
surely indeed , they could fly !
Seems like that system didn't help the pilot which apparently got shot down by a friendly patriot system.
If that system can't survive a patriot, I'm not sure it can fare any better against better Russian A/D and air force.
there isnt any proof it was shot down by a patriot nor a statement from the ukrainian side, so its just a conjecture lol.
What most likely happened is that it flew to close to the drone to get a gun kill. Something similar happened to a MIG-29 like 1 or 2 years ago. Although in that case pilot ejected.
Basically the issue is lack of missiles
The f16 they use is very old. But it's till years ahead of anything they originally had!
Great video, thank you for the information keep up the great work 👍
thank you
And to be snarky didnt help at all when they apparently shot the first down :P
Even though this is the grandfather of the world of aircraft, this grandfather is more technologically advanced than any "modern" russian aircraft
Absolute genius. It makes the F16 a modern and dangerous platform.
I wonder if 60 GHz radar is used for close distances. 60Gigs is quickly attenuated in atmosphere which would prevent jamming from a distance and eliminate distant radar reflections for better signal to noise. Also 60Gig radar could be used without revealing the aircraft emission to distant antenna detectors
But will it work in actual combat? How much more weight will be added to the airframe? Being former military all the cool stuff works great until you are being shot back at. I wonder how this pod works against multiple missiles coming from ground launched and air launched to a targeted aircraft? It’s not like the Russians do not know about these pods it will be no surprise to them.
Fabulous explanation, both technical but explained in a manner we can understand. Thank you for sharing your experience and expertise 👍
Biggest threat the Ukranian jets are Gona face in their job is Manpads. One of the strengths of that system is it's used so close the pilot has little chance to react. This means he doesn't have too wry. The pilots can afford to be a bit reactionary instead of having to play it too safe.
Man pads are only effective if the target is low and slow..
They'll have little to no warning that an F-16 is coming, and even less time to shoot at it
Very informative, thanks!
It's been 2 years we're waiting for the F-16 to make an appearance over the battlefield 😂
you must have blinked; the Russians were the first to know
And for a reason. It doesn't help to give planes if the pilots aren't schooled to fly and operate them, and that takes time.
since its the danish f-16 that got send first it should be ECIPS+/CJS system *just a small corection*
Thank you for your video.
MAWS is usually IR based, for 1st time hearing as UV based.
IR based counter measure also 1st time hearing.
I thought sensor as laser detection and reconnasance pod substitute😅
Those uv sensors would be handy for short range ir guided missiles, but not so much for radar guided which have usually burned out and are coasting by the time they get into detection range.
Thanks!
Thank you!
I'd like to see you do a video on the Mil-Std-1776 interface.
F-16's look absolutely lethal and gorgeous, like a tiger shark or cheetah hunting its prey.
Do they come with Kenny Logins music installed?
I've read in a few places that an su 57 shot one down over Odessa. Anyone else heard the same?
A good edition the Demark made pylon gives a good all around defensive stat to all of Ukraine's planes. it was necessary to use this pylon to have a fast way to use the more advanced European weaponry.
KEPD 350 and the Meteor missile is an good example.
The F16 radar has a maximum range of 80 km but the Meteor missile has an engagement range of 200 km +.
Sweden has already given two ASC 890 (Airborne Surveillance and Control) to maximize these planes offensive capability.
I thought I was already subscribed to you. I watch so many of your videos. Well, now I've taken that step.
Welcome aboard!
Those are the same countermeasure system the Argentine f-16s have.