You're saving me from doing loot crates by doing this videos Dovaz, so, thank you soo much for preventing me from gambling in the first place. Whenever you did a pull, I went through all the emotions you did, and i even felt the immense wave of disappointment when you didnt get what you wanted from it. I think most of the players agree with you on direct purchase products, many would buy the cosmetics on the spot if they sell them individually and not through forced gambling. The gambling part is malicious, especially for those who'd never gamble before yet wants the cosmetics soo bad, they're willing to give it a try, get frustrated in not getting what they wanted, then gamble again until they did. If this goes unchecked, it will be an "Okey habbit" to do in life. Again, thank you for saving me from gambling on these things Dovaz, and i hope the effect reaches out to other viewers as well.
100% - I’ve learned to play the system, and so have only gone all in on two sets (Pyro Glide and the techno one recently), and then otherwise only done a half price pull on some others and sparingly spent lightforge relics on the odd legendary item I really want. That has kept it ok for me, because if I want the biggest items I assume it’ll cost the max (and it does). The system screws over most players which is why we need time limited store access so players can buy what they want.
This is the first game I’ve played that has gambling like this and I was a victim in the start n now watching your videos ic it’s so not worth it 😢 I try to do only the discount 10 only and save for things I can buy direct
just wanted to add that the try harder emote is incorrect. the preview on the crate is the emote from the pyro glide light forge crate. the real emote is mehhh at best. i rolled my 10 and got the basic stuff and the buddy emote.
I thought that preview looked familiar. Another bug to add to the list. I'll have to make sure to showcase the emotes in game or at least double check them from now on. Thanks for pointing that out.
@ any time! I missed the pyro glide crate cause I had just started playing and it was going away. So when I saw the emote I was like “pleeeee be broken so I can enjoy the emote before they fix it” nope! Unfortunately it worked fine in the emote menu and once your toon does the emote. So it’s only a bug on the loot crate menu. Annnnd the real emote is almost like calling a dog over.
I want to educate whoever makes these pricing decisions or Once Human. I even filled out their surveys with as much as I could in that short form format. They are missing out on so much revenue with these insanely priced cosmetics. Considering how massive the userbase is, they could increase their digital asset sales revenue exponentially by charging $3.00 - $10.00 for individual items as well as a few bundle deals instead of these loot crates. They must know this because they have similar options throughout the season shop. Maybe they intend for these items to be rare. That would be the only thing that makes sense but I think it's a bad business model, personally.
Edit: I pulled the Unicorn Head on my first attempt whjen I first started this game and have not/will not buy anything else. I was lucky because I like to gamble so that could've ended badly.,
The unicorn head is so underrated. The fact that thing flops around with physics and will bounce around in the wind while you drive a car is hilarious. But ya I agree with everything you said on the monetization. I don't know if they have statistics saying otherwise. But if they do Im confident it's old data from before Covid. Gamer's are exhausted with the gacha, loot box, and other random cosmetic models. This sales model now relies on the whales to buy out every loot crate. But these crates don't even have enough value to whale on. So I definitely believe that the market has shifted and more players will only open the wallet for direct purchase.
You definitely got unlucky today. I did the half price roll and got the garage, cradle charm and some clothes, plus just enough relic lightforge to then buy the crossbow for 160. I had those from deciding to go all in on the purple techno set with the kitty ears cradle. As I buy in $100 batches of crystgin from the US I get the bonus plus no tax, so the discount roll is about $11 for me, which is all I spent to get what I want. The problem is definitely the random chance can fk you over like this unfortunately. I totally agree with you they should move to time limited sales for a month in the store for all lightforge contents: you get a window to buy and it’s a fixed price, or you can buy crates to gamble for the items and might get duplicates or something bigger for less like we do with the in game cosmetics with Mitsuko marks etc. Case in point: I bought the new pink bike skin the moment it came out. I didn’t want the rest and got what I wanted for a fair price. I hope the developers see this, nobody should spend this much to not get what they want.
Ouch man. They really have to look at all the duplicates. I did the 1st loot crate set and on my first pull got 3 unique items the rest were all duplicates. It sucked bad enough, I've never bought another nor will I. Thanks for suffering and buying them to show us how bad it is. Don't get me wrong a lot of the items are cool and would love to get, but my budget doesn't allow for flushing money down the drain.
I'm part of their target audience with loot crates as someone who only spends there money on pixels. But every crate that goes by I'm getting more and more distaste for the system. Especially since the expectation was that they'd be changed for the better by now. If the January crates aren't improved I'm probably going to have a lot to say about it haha
I bought it with direct purchase so basically i got 1.2k of the lightforge relic? Ddnt have to spend anything on this lootcrate next fortnight i gonna have to pay for it. The furniture stuff is actually pretty good.
@DovazX yeah if u get in to the base building it is actually quite fulfilling. I have a really nc base and ppl tend to have reactions and go check out my base. I got all light forge costume and i put it on the hall way all my photo shots looks mad bro
Ty sir for your sacrifice was hoping for crossbow on first 30 pull i would have went in on that. Funny how you thought you was gonna get that skin on your 60 pull when we all know that not gonna happen
RNG is a cruel mistress. It's possible to have happened. I've had legendaries drop earlier than pity. I've had them not be the last guaranteed etc. it's the lowest chance but it does happen now and then. My desire to pull on crates gets less and less with every one of them. I just want to straight buy items from a shop and not gamble anymore
i would say around 300+ needed for get all . I already spend 140 , and missing the bow and the big home cosmetic . So thats why i stop and dont spend anymore . The price going to high already !
Yeah $300 USD is the max until full pity. But it's still a crazy price to force a guarantee. Hoping these change for the better in January and their announcement months ago wasn't just a lie or misrepresentation for the rest of the store
Me and all my friends are at that point. I've got at least a dozen people that drop money on cosmetics in other games but won't touch the loot crates. Theres a lot of things we want but the random gambling for stuff we don't want isn't enjoyable.
I think most of us would prefer if the game leaned into the dark horror theme it had going for it at the start. Sadly they went full fortnite for so long that I've just embraced the goofy. Otherwise I'd lose a lot of enjoyment
I haven't been keeping a running tally but it's now over $1000 CDN after this round. Kinda makes ya sick to think about it as a lump sum that could have been spent elsewhere. But I also value money spent against time played/enjoyed and I'm coming up on 2000 hours of mostly all enjoyed time. Also made a lot of new friends through the game that I'm playing other games with as well now.
I explain this on every one of my videos that I spend. Yes, I am part of the problem, I shouldn't spend because I don't like the system. It's understandable to be upset with me for that. However, I am a bigger support to the solution by showcasing my bad experience and not pretending it's good just to try to be a partner with them. This causes a lot of viewers to see how bad it can get. Even on the videos that I get what I want I am sure to explain the risks and the costs. Also the item showcase at the end helps inform viewers what the items actually do and look like because the game fails pretty hard at that with the in game animations etc. If even a few people save themselves money and heartache from checking my video before buying. Then there is more positive than negative for the total outcome. That said, even I've reached my limits on these crates. If they don't follow through on the "changes by January" statement I'm not sure how I'm going to react.
Nope. It's been a couple days and the urge to do so has completely gone. Filled with dread that in January they might not be better. I'm definitely spending my Xmas money elsewhere. Steam holiday sale likely haha
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You're saving me from doing loot crates by doing this videos Dovaz, so, thank you soo much for preventing me from gambling in the first place. Whenever you did a pull, I went through all the emotions you did, and i even felt the immense wave of disappointment when you didnt get what you wanted from it. I think most of the players agree with you on direct purchase products, many would buy the cosmetics on the spot if they sell them individually and not through forced gambling. The gambling part is malicious, especially for those who'd never gamble before yet wants the cosmetics soo bad, they're willing to give it a try, get frustrated in not getting what they wanted, then gamble again until they did. If this goes unchecked, it will be an "Okey habbit" to do in life. Again, thank you for saving me from gambling on these things Dovaz, and i hope the effect reaches out to other viewers as well.
This makes me feel a bit better. Knowing my videos are helping others takes the bite away from the pulls and helps validate all the editing time haha
100% - I’ve learned to play the system, and so have only gone all in on two sets (Pyro Glide and the techno one recently), and then otherwise only done a half price pull on some others and sparingly spent lightforge relics on the odd legendary item I really want. That has kept it ok for me, because if I want the biggest items I assume it’ll cost the max (and it does). The system screws over most players which is why we need time limited store access so players can buy what they want.
This is the first game I’ve played that has gambling like this and I was a victim in the start n now watching your videos ic it’s so not worth it 😢 I try to do only the discount 10 only and save for things I can buy direct
Not all hero’s wear capes stating strong waiting on the that car skin event again 12:24
You singlehandly save this community from dropping $250 for loot crates. Your sacrifice will never go unnoticed. Thank you Dovaz
Hopefully they start to change for the better in January
just wanted to add that the try harder emote is incorrect. the preview on the crate is the emote from the pyro glide light forge crate. the real emote is mehhh at best. i rolled my 10 and got the basic stuff and the buddy emote.
I thought that preview looked familiar. Another bug to add to the list. I'll have to make sure to showcase the emotes in game or at least double check them from now on. Thanks for pointing that out.
@ any time! I missed the pyro glide crate cause I had just started playing and it was going away. So when I saw the emote I was like “pleeeee be broken so I can enjoy the emote before they fix it” nope! Unfortunately it worked fine in the emote menu and once your toon does the emote. So it’s only a bug on the loot crate menu. Annnnd the real emote is almost like calling a dog over.
Territory bundles should only be sold in shop.
Yeah ideally territory stuff would be main shop but also each piece seperate with the option for a bundle price.
I want to educate whoever makes these pricing decisions or Once Human. I even filled out their surveys with as much as I could in that short form format. They are missing out on so much revenue with these insanely priced cosmetics. Considering how massive the userbase is, they could increase their digital asset sales revenue exponentially by charging $3.00 - $10.00 for individual items as well as a few bundle deals instead of these loot crates. They must know this because they have similar options throughout the season shop. Maybe they intend for these items to be rare. That would be the only thing that makes sense but I think it's a bad business model, personally.
Edit: I pulled the Unicorn Head on my first attempt whjen I first started this game and have not/will not buy anything else. I was lucky because I like to gamble so that could've ended badly.,
The unicorn head is so underrated. The fact that thing flops around with physics and will bounce around in the wind while you drive a car is hilarious. But ya I agree with everything you said on the monetization. I don't know if they have statistics saying otherwise. But if they do Im confident it's old data from before Covid. Gamer's are exhausted with the gacha, loot box, and other random cosmetic models. This sales model now relies on the whales to buy out every loot crate. But these crates don't even have enough value to whale on. So I definitely believe that the market has shifted and more players will only open the wallet for direct purchase.
You definitely got unlucky today. I did the half price roll and got the garage, cradle charm and some clothes, plus just enough relic lightforge to then buy the crossbow for 160. I had those from deciding to go all in on the purple techno set with the kitty ears cradle. As I buy in $100 batches of crystgin from the US I get the bonus plus no tax, so the discount roll is about $11 for me, which is all I spent to get what I want. The problem is definitely the random chance can fk you over like this unfortunately.
I totally agree with you they should move to time limited sales for a month in the store for all lightforge contents: you get a window to buy and it’s a fixed price, or you can buy crates to gamble for the items and might get duplicates or something bigger for less like we do with the in game cosmetics with Mitsuko marks etc.
Case in point: I bought the new pink bike skin the moment it came out. I didn’t want the rest and got what I wanted for a fair price. I hope the developers see this, nobody should spend this much to not get what they want.
Waiting til January I did a 30 pull on this one got cross bow. No reason for the fluff purples need to stick to 90 pulls
At least the anabasis skin had plasma effects on the bullets, reload, sound effects etc. the crossbow feels bad comparatively
Ouch man. They really have to look at all the duplicates. I did the 1st loot crate set and on my first pull got 3 unique items the rest were all duplicates. It sucked bad enough, I've never bought another nor will I. Thanks for suffering and buying them to show us how bad it is. Don't get me wrong a lot of the items are cool and would love to get, but my budget doesn't allow for flushing money down the drain.
I'm part of their target audience with loot crates as someone who only spends there money on pixels. But every crate that goes by I'm getting more and more distaste for the system. Especially since the expectation was that they'd be changed for the better by now. If the January crates aren't improved I'm probably going to have a lot to say about it haha
I bought it with direct purchase so basically i got 1.2k of the lightforge relic? Ddnt have to spend anything on this lootcrate next fortnight i gonna have to pay for it.
The furniture stuff is actually pretty good.
I like the furniture when visiting people who have it. Im not as skilled at making PvE homes as others haha
@DovazX yeah if u get in to the base building it is actually quite fulfilling. I have a really nc base and ppl tend to have reactions and go check out my base. I got all light forge costume and i put it on the hall way all my photo shots looks mad bro
Ty sir for your sacrifice was hoping for crossbow on first 30 pull i would have went in on that. Funny how you thought you was gonna get that skin on your 60 pull when we all know that not gonna happen
RNG is a cruel mistress. It's possible to have happened. I've had legendaries drop earlier than pity. I've had them not be the last guaranteed etc. it's the lowest chance but it does happen now and then. My desire to pull on crates gets less and less with every one of them. I just want to straight buy items from a shop and not gamble anymore
I did my 10 pull and I got 2 things I wanted but I reallyyyy want the sword skin 😭 but I also love my money 😢
i would say around 300+ needed for get all . I already spend 140 , and missing the bow and the big home cosmetic . So thats why i stop and dont spend anymore . The price going to high already !
Yeah $300 USD is the max until full pity. But it's still a crazy price to force a guarantee. Hoping these change for the better in January and their announcement months ago wasn't just a lie or misrepresentation for the rest of the store
They would probably make more money is they just sold everything separately and kept it for sale
Me and all my friends are at that point. I've got at least a dozen people that drop money on cosmetics in other games but won't touch the loot crates. Theres a lot of things we want but the random gambling for stuff we don't want isn't enjoyable.
@ yeah, honestly the gambling needs to go. It’s actually a pretty big problem for some people.
Rip the pull 😢😢😢😢😢
Your almost to the gold dont stop dovaz keep pulling your next ten your getting skin only quiters lose
But... I'm tired boss
im the only one who is tired of this neon,k-pop looks......this game should be dark and bloody.....
I think most of us would prefer if the game leaned into the dark horror theme it had going for it at the start. Sadly they went full fortnite for so long that I've just embraced the goofy. Otherwise I'd lose a lot of enjoyment
This is a highway robbery system lol. Just sale cosmetics and get rid of the gambling system.
Once Human - NFT simulator .. xD
Not that I like them either but, NFT's are unique to give them value. These loot crates are pixels that everyone can own. For $300+ xD
how much have you spent on crates in total?
I haven't been keeping a running tally but it's now over $1000 CDN after this round. Kinda makes ya sick to think about it as a lump sum that could have been spent elsewhere. But I also value money spent against time played/enjoyed and I'm coming up on 2000 hours of mostly all enjoyed time. Also made a lot of new friends through the game that I'm playing other games with as well now.
i hope u see someday that ur part of the problem theyre continue with this stupid gacha system.
I explain this on every one of my videos that I spend. Yes, I am part of the problem, I shouldn't spend because I don't like the system. It's understandable to be upset with me for that. However, I am a bigger support to the solution by showcasing my bad experience and not pretending it's good just to try to be a partner with them. This causes a lot of viewers to see how bad it can get. Even on the videos that I get what I want I am sure to explain the risks and the costs. Also the item showcase at the end helps inform viewers what the items actually do and look like because the game fails pretty hard at that with the in game animations etc. If even a few people save themselves money and heartache from checking my video before buying. Then there is more positive than negative for the total outcome. That said, even I've reached my limits on these crates. If they don't follow through on the "changes by January" statement I'm not sure how I'm going to react.
i bet ul buy more rolls to get skin u want
Nope. It's been a couple days and the urge to do so has completely gone. Filled with dread that in January they might not be better. I'm definitely spending my Xmas money elsewhere. Steam holiday sale likely haha
That outfit for me was mid 😢
Yeah I doubt many people will want this one. I'm just weird haha