@@redshift912 if OH doesnt have Wipe . mmo end game grind u can horde stuff OH only the Weapon/armor Blueprint stuff like Building crafting matrial just rot in Eternalland, to bring that stuff to new scenario is very limited its like i know i got like tons of acid in eternalland but can only bring some to new Scenario,i need to redo whole stuff again and i know i got plenty of this stuff and cannot use cuz DEV doesnt know what game they trying to make .only major Update just Lightforge after Lightforge after Lightforge.
@@redshift912 other MMO you have reason to do it. you get new gear/mount/crafting items that you can keep or sell, also they drop new content every 2 to 3 months until their next expansion. here you will lose everything and start over again, it takes away the reason for grinding.
I was very excited, but it feels bad now. I truly was looking forward to the next updates...but if I am being honest, it feels like they were talking about different games at certain points. They took what people wanted and put up more paywalls. Even in places that doesn't make since. This shows how the devs are thinking and It makes me concerned for the game long-term. There are multiple things that really just...honestly feel disrespectful to the players. It's odd to even say it like that, but it's true. They have something great here and they need to be careful not to make it pander to so many groups all at once. Even EA started taking notes on charging people for achievements.
I agree with your opinion about the overzealous monetization. I have spent about $250 on this game and I am willing to spend more to support development. I have waited on investing in loot crate cosmetics to see what direction they go. They really do have a gem on their hands with this game. All they have to do is give us content with free attainable rewards which provides us with value for our time spent. Do this in parallel wtih the cosmetic shop and we will spend to support the game we love. DO NOT lock content behind a pay wall as it is definitely a "feels bad moment" that I do not want to feel in this game. Are things overpriced, yes? Do we buy anyway because we love this game, yes? Give us more entertaining content and it will continue. I really do love this game as it scratches so many itches at once with an innovative atmosphere. Cruising with a side of fries is something I want to continue to be able to do for a long time to come.
00:25 Stellar Stairway 04:15 Collection Level 05:45 Phantom Cube Explanation 12:43 Meta Bounty (he's mad the dev paywalled everything LOL I agree with him wholeheartedly) 19:30 Quick Recap of OH Live Stream
The bounties suck. Tbh, ALL the microtransactions are insanely expensive. The new TV head skin pack? It costs like $75 dollars!! WtAf?! The building sets costing $50 dollars is BS. A normal skin costing $20 dollars is absurd. And especially when there isn't any new content. This sucks super bad because I was 100% behind this developer/game studio. Because they aren't pay to win, and they USED to NOT be gouging the player base for so much cash. Honestly, if they just did what you said and let us earn small amounts of Crystogens in game, then it wouldn't be so bad. And it would be greatly appreciated if they lowered the prices of the shop items. It's actually insane how much it all costs. Also they REALLY need to fix the lag. I have really good internet and I get so much lag it's ridiculous. Sometimes I actually just have to close the game fully and stop playing because of how bad the server lag is. Literally makes the game unplayable.
Its a free game, and not pay to win. The cosmetics are purely optional. I paid for the glass house pack months ago, and thats it. No one is making me buy hyper expensive cosmetics, and im ok with that. Just dont buy them
This game has been in development for like 10 yrs.. people just dont know. and NetEase is known for money grab. milk their games and create the next game. They are actually known to abandon the games.. The only difference this time around, is that they are doing it to PC gamers and no mobile gamers.. And thats where a lot of us hope that they would change their ways.
Skins and cosmetic being expensive is not a problem, as long as they didnt add status effect bonus on them, since in the end of the day "it's just cosmetic", "I look cool coz i have money" and that is still a fine line.
I've just started playing and already totally overwhelmed with all the currencies , boxes , navigation screens, just everything. I know I'm missing a lot of content by just not knowing and not being able to find it. Then you have this seasonal timer which might be a game breaker for me.
I’ve bin playing for months and I’m still overwhelmed when I need to open my menu to go find where I need to go 😭 especially with the winter event it’s even more tabs n I’m like trying to find where to go all the time n remember it 😮 they gotta do something with the tabs too for sure
Yeah i definitely have to agree with you on the "scammy" feeling with everything being a cash grab opportunity. I play a lot of different games and almost every one of them offer a "F2P" aspect where you can earn the premium currency, even if it is at a VERY slow rate. I whole heartedly agree with making cosmetics a paid thing on a F2P game but to charge people for trophies and bounties is a bit over the acceptable line. Reason being, these trophies aren't just something you can purchase and set in your territory, you actually have to go out and complete challenging tasks.... looking forward to the rest of the stuff they mentioned in the live stream though.
I’ve had tons of fun playing I think the trophies should just be part of the monthly sub if you get it done in a month boom! It is a free to play so they have to make some $$ the loot crates are ridiculous expensive tho
i wish they would just charge us for the game and make their other content as dlc. if there were no micrtransactions the game wouldnt need the antihack software and it would run better.
I have to agree the Pay Wall is getting dumb. I will admit I have spent $300+ to look pretty but it is stuff that I liked and it didn't hinder me playing the game in anyway so that is why I paid for for it. But locking content behind pay wall that is dumb.
As long us its not pay to win. No cosmetics or furniture will affect the gameplay itself. Im still ok with the game. As far as I know, no one is forcing us to buy those paywall stuff.
I am actually fine with them taking the time they need to deploy new scenarios at or above Manibus quality. They rushed out Way of Winter, which is why the first half is great, the second half was empty and unfinished / untested. I would rather they finish WoW interim so it’s as good as Manibus, because for me it feels like a downgrade right now. Amazing game, I still love its quirky blend of everything, but hard to see how I’ll have a reason to keep playing after this third season of Manibus and will probably have to take a break.
Some people in the comments keep forgeting that this game is a free to play, with a HUGE work behind, work that COST money, so yes, might seems a bit weird that they put microtransactions everywhere BUT I can understand that when this is one of the few games that IS NOT a pay to win, especially with all the work they have done, in LESS THAN HALF A YEAR!
they also made the cw a lot harder to kill. the torso weakspot is only a weakspot after u break the armor and that only happens towards the end of the 1/6 hp threshold. no weakspot from 2/6 until it's nearly died means even wildfire can't trigger ws hit. so much for making killing cw easier. oh about the status dmg on cw... tested a couple of weapons. little jaws bombs still immune most of the time. only occasionally see dmg numbers and most of the time it says "immune". abyss glance gives 15k frost ticks which is ok when theres no weakspot. i don't have power surge built so I didnt test that.
I am so glad I am not the only one who kept miss pronouncing the Asterism word LOL. I'm glad I watched this, when doing my Christmas special video, I completely missed the Collection Level Weapon Renaming Card screen. And for the part about the Miracle of Joy under the Meta Bounty, I too am not very pleased with this. My main character went out and did whatever to get the trophy. However, I did not get it, my alt character got it, and that character didn't do anything but log in. But the PAY for it?! Not cool. Wow! WOW!!!! Also, I was talking to Troygamingtv and I had asked him what happen to the Band? Remember we did all those quests for the Band and then when we got to The Way of Winter there was nothing. It's like they try to add new stuff for us to enjoy but then drop the ball. Personally, I think Scenario 2: TWOW was an unfinished rushed Scenario. I mean don't get me wrong, I freaking LOVE this game like you. If I didn't, I wouldn't have a main and three alts that have all played Manibus 3x's and TWOW once. But anyway, thanks for the video and the news update. Come join me in POE2.
It costs a lot of money to run servers. It's a free game. I understand being upset that things costs money, and I do agree, some things look to cost way too much, especially locking content behind having to pay for it, but that's effectively what DLCs do all the time, heh. The company is spending a lot of money to make the game for people to play, and, unfortunately, they have to get money somehow. It sucks sometimes when things seem outrageously priced, but also sucks when a game you like disappears because they can't afford the upkeep.
I do agree that cosmetics are a bit expensive, but a necessary evil and something that doesn't affect gameplay, awesome. BUT to pay to unlock achievements is a HUGE bs and you know it. That's in no way, shape or form acceptable. And I'm sorry but the whole purpose of DLC is to get more content, which we will only get in 6 months (at the earliest) or so, until then? I hope you enjoy Way of Winter and Manibus. You know what, I would rather pay for a new good scenario as DLC at this point.
This is not a good way to monetize a f2p game. I constantly say that every free game should look at warframe as a model on how to monetize a free game and keep your players happy. If you like gacha games then Genshin is a good model as well. This model is complete garbage. $50 US for a glass building pack?! Ridiculous
I disagree with your thought process, why would you want a smaller player base to sell to? Why wouldn't you make pricing reasonable and make it more accessible to others. A larger pool of consumers equals more income. Especially when you are talking about a game. The pricing is higher than most other cosmetics in other games, that is just a fact. I have participated in the loot crates because I can afford to, that does not mean I have to agree with it. Just an observation half the players leaving felt it was looking like a cash grab, while others wanted more content. Both camps have valid points and there are better ways than gambling to monetize a game. I have no issue continuing to play the game. I just wish they wanted more players.
@@JohnnyJordan-z3y I agree with this. Lots of people are what make MICRO-transactions work. Having fewer people is what makes them have to make things expensive. Much more lucrative to have 30 people spend $3 than to have 10 spend $6. Also, the way they make and run servers, they could decrease the amount of servers they have if they needed to, easily. They choose to have this many open and running and purposefully lock/close them after a short time period.
The weapon collection system goes up by unlocking weapon and gear blue prints and their star levels. I upgraded most my lower level guns and gear so I’m past level 130.
Thank you for covering the update I was worried they would give me too much to do and it would take time from path of exile 2 early access. Poe 2 is so fun.
Considering everything you pay for is just for looks... I don't have a problem with it, it just needs more balance. The game is free, zero pay to win or even pay to play. They should add more medals that are just free play unlocks. As long as there is balance, I dont mind considering the game is completely free.
im begging everyone to criticize the quality of microtransactions and not the microtransactions themselves. the game is free to play and not pay to win. as long as they want to keep it that way they can only get money through cosmetic transactions.
That is a silly thing because you can play this game without Crystgin. It is like in real Life. You cannot buy all you see. You see an expensive car and cannot buy it. Hey, what's new? In this game is the same, you cannot buy a luxury Badge. No problem. So don't look in this shop. It is like you go in a luxury shop without money. Why do you go there? Go to a shop where you can use the money you have and the currency you have. As I said, just as in the real life. Stay clear and Merry Xmas, every one!
Hey thanks for all the free information, except for the ads. I really hated the ads. I don’t see why u need to have ads when u could just tell all this for free. The video had a time limit and I didn’t plan for the ad time. Really big let down.
I get the annoyance of playing Manibus multiple times, but they have 4 scenarios now. Theres way of winter, prismverse, and they did release another one at the start of this season. All you have to do is just look at the new scenarios. Dont get me wrong, I've played Manibus three times now. I did play way of winter once, but i joined late and didn't get to finish. The only reason why I'm back on manibus now is because I've introduced a friend to this game and I wanted to start them out on Manibus and help them work through the game. Otherwise, I'd be on way of winter again.
4 scenarioes if you like or don't mind PVP, but still only 2 if you're a player that doesn't want to PVP (or vice versa as a player that is just interested in the PVP). A good amount of the player base isn't really interested in the PVP side of the game so it's not a matter of not looking and noticing there are 4 options. It's about 2 of those 4 options not being a playstyle that the player wants to get into.
The ability to get the premium currency free has been in all games i played u dont get alot but it builds up over time. So i was surprised this game didnt do that. Even if u give like 50-100 a week It will make alot of fp2 play everyday to do whatever they need to collect it.
The blob kinda looks like the things from cargo conquest. The purple skin for vortex is just yellow(yellow snow) XD Bounty price is definitely disgusting. It's P2P which is technically P2W. It's actual game content you can't play unless you pay. this goes against the promise of no P2W content. if they released the missions for free with smaller rewards then locked the trophy itself behind a paywall i could have accepted that. The backpacks are cool. Anyway i'm looking forward to the new scenarios. Hopefully we don't have to worry about all of our stuff getting stolen in them. i wouldn't mind a small fraction but not all of it.
Ngl I don't care much of what they did as long as they didn't put any cash item that would impact the game directly, such as "buying" guns or a pack where u got a legendary weapons and armor. and as long as the cometic didn't give additional effect on combat I'm fine with how much they cost me for.
yeah i loved this game, played it since release, bored of it in more ways than i can list on an A4 sheet of paper, and as soon as you shown them having a release for it on mobile i instantly lost all hope i had left for it
Yeah they need to make the challenges free. It could’ve been the content that keeps players engaged. It’s a shame because everything else seems like a win
I love this game as well but not being able to get a house spot in blackfell made me quit, just too much grinding for end game if you cant get a base in blackfell. Poor design...But ill keep checking on news to see if it ever changes :)
Paywalling Achievements is a big new low what the heck! The achievement bounties are a perfect way to create some endgame content because we are getting scenarios at a much slower rate (they promised 3~4 scenario each year) but we get our new scenario in JULY 2025! THATS WAY TOO LATE! I agree with you they should've added a way to get some premium currency if they wanna do this MACRO (not micro cosmetics on this game is frickin expensive) transactions ,it would've mitigate some of the criticism but OH WELL. I would probably quit after my current scenario ends :L, sucks that I do enjoy this game but I can't continue supporting it.
kudos for pointing out the bounty. But if we can get it for free, we can ignore that paywall & let the whales that have less time to play to either do it or buy it.
If amongst the various logins and rewards systems they have like battle pass or the seasonal content it had the option to earn 1-5 crysign a week or even an absurdly horrible exchange rate of starcrom to crysign it would be palatable. I get they need to put alot of the extraneous content behind these blockades for server upkeep to keep the game free to play it does hurt their retention rate that end gamers or game lovers who can't drop $30-$60 on premium currency to do those events. It would absolutely drive up the player count if people could see what saving their free earned currency could get them from watching channels like yours or other game streamers who either have the financial freedom to showcase or their polls rabidly endorsed the necessary expense to see whats behind the gilded walls.
By waiting until Q3 they have officially killed this game for PC. Just going off the player base metrics there is zero chance on this game surviving that long. They are clearly hoping that mobile picks up a lot of new people to hold them over and could care less about PC.
Broo.. no the medals are not paid.. the money is just a faster and instant way of unlocking the trophies.. do the underlying task to get the trophy. See u have done some of the task in 1 of the trophy. 😂😂
Are you sure about that? Because if that was the case wouldn't using the 1 Crystgin for the discounted trophies mean they should be instantly peaceable? They're not. Even after unlocking them you need to do the tasks in order to be able to place them.
@@MsDarkness1313 Yah bro.. I just tested "The Meaning of Family" exploration bounty.. I did all the task but didn't recieve the medal.. I have to buy it with 60 crystgin even after doing all the task....A big L😢
No fr my bf cant buy stuff and we were both excited looking at the new trophy’s n then saw we had to pay for the cool ones and got upset like why?!?! Not everyone has money like that, more people need to speak up against them with this making us pay to have fun for a free game! 🥺 I love the game because it’s different but it’s starting to be not a game I wanna play everyday anymore because they are greedy asf, reminding me of EA fr
Once human devs don't want to sell power, so to please their overlords with some form of monetization, specially to justify all of these server costs, they have to become a skins factory and paywall stupid things. I like the dev, but they'll always be stuck between a rock and a hard place, under NetEase.
stop huffing and puffing about microtransactions, once human is one of the rare games where actual progress(i.e. starchrom), can NOT be bought for money, everything you pay money for is purely cosmetic and bragging rights, will NOT boost you.
I don’t really understand why this game has so much negative reviews because no one is forcing you to pay to play. It’s still a free game and really they have to make money to continue developing the game and also earn money somehow to pay their staff! EVERYTHING is so expensive nowadays so we need to be more respectful and understand that end of the day this is not just a game but people’s job behind the scenes. 🤷🏻♀️ Still, you can play and enjoy the game with a tons of free stuff if you haven’t got the money to pay for cosmetics, bounty, etc. Also, they are ppl who can do mistakes but luckily they have the ability to correct it if they want :) that’s just my opinion.
...player since day 1, here. currently playing my 4th manibus & 2nd winter... multiple characters, multiple accounts... 6 star weapons & armor... had 50k starchrom going into S04 on my original character, now 100k+ and it's only good for the wish machine. starchrom has lost all value for me. the pay-wall for content challenges, the rushed winter scenario... if they put as much time into making content as they did events, it might have had some lasting interest - but, at this point i think i'm done with this game for a while - maybe for good.
I stopped playing after the first 6 weeks. It was a great game. But I realized that the game would be a pay pay pay type of game. In the first week I pushed 100 hours then over the rest of the time I just up kept my acid farm but never logged back in after reset. The problem with non pay to win games is they always throw in here by this for these guys. Or the glass walls which was my favorite thing but 80 bucks bruh for real?? The trophy thing for a few bucks here and there isn't really a big deal. I think the issue comes in when you have to spend countless hours having to grind the kills. That's where my issue is. But they also said the game isn't a pay to win game. And it isn't. There is no where that I know of where you can pay money to get farther or advance farther than someone else in the game. But they make 0 money from us without introducing ways for us to spend money so I also understand why they're doing it. It's a free game 100% and I will not complain for what they've given us. The game is great. At least for what I've played im about to log on now. See the changes.
The game is fun on the first run through everything, becomes tedious and boring afterwards, but don't worry because "everyone loves the overpriced cosmetics, server resets, the ability to not be able to delete unused characters, etc...", we also "love" that the deviants become useless and pointless mid to end game.
Unistall this game was the best thing i ever did in my life, greedy devs, and i'm sorry but stupid are those who pay anything to this guys cause they know how to manipulate people and i feel sorry for this people.
so they added a currency to get a currency i was already getting, yeah we get more but what's the point of an entire new currency to get what we were already getting it lol, they just needed to increase the starchrom no need for all these extra steps to get what we were already getting and now a new menu on top of all the others lol
While I totally agree on having yet another currency and another menu on top of all the other already existing ones being silly. The new starchrom earning way works in a way where anything you do in the game basically will work toward getting your starchrom. Before specific activities were the way and if you're a player that is behind due to real-life or just playing at a slower pace it can make earning some of that starchrom either very difficult or not doable. For example my friend was busy with real-life that hit them mid season. So when Nightmare Prime Wars opened up on Manibus they couldn't get involved in them. By the time they were able to get back to the game nobody in the server was running them at any of the times he could play even when asking in world chat. Meaning he was automatically blocked out of getting all of the nightmare PW first clear starchrom. Now with the new system he can still catch up with earning starchrom even if he gets busy so long as he can get back to play before the reset time happens. I have no idea why it required a whole extra middle step and yet another currency to do, but I do think the new method of earning them is better for players overall.
@@MsDarkness1313 you missed my point they could have just added the new system to starchrom without adding a new currency and menu lol it's a pointless step. so my way the asterisms you now earn doing any content just have it reward starchrom to the point of 66k per month 12k per week there's zero reason to add a new currency lol
for example i now have to open crates to get asterisms to then get starchrom can you see the stupidity of it, i used to open crates to get starchrom lol. just increase the starchrom from the same events that give atserisms . They just added extra steps to get to the same point and to what end it's not an improvement it's an added complication to get to the exact same point. madness wrapped in more madness from them.
What the game actually is, is anti-pay to win. Absolutely nothing you can spend money on will impact your performance. No build times you can pay to skip or OP gear you can buy absolutely nothing progression based locked behind a pay-wall. You can even get the achievements checked off without buying the actual trophy itself. You’re just paying for optional cosmetics. It is f2p, but people forget what sets it apart from other f2p games is it is anti-p2w.
If a game is free, then it will be the most expensive game you have played.. idk why it just always like that. most free to play games are heavily monetized for items you actually need or the good cosmetics. nothing really new tbh..
I have the exact same reaction to the bounties i screenshot it to all my friedns and was soooooo excited just to know it was paid like plz!! I did not relog after checking the update 😢 so disappointed eventho i can buy all the bounties but this is just not acceptable
Once human is starting to become just a store, with every new update is just a storefront, I know they need to make money, but that doesn't excuse them from being greedy. Everything is too expensive and had little to offer to make the game fun. I would say "I love the game" but no its just "I just like the game" and with every lightforge they release, I'm starting to dislike and ignore the game entirely. I really like the game but with every update is just a monetization update, I just can't.
they have a opportunity to get people back playing that repetetive game but they try to force them to play a hard challenge there no ineterest to pay for a challenge to tryhard for a challenge they need us to play their game to make it interesting not force me to pay to do a challenge :'( i realy love this game and hope play it for a long time but after this update and this stupid marketing movement .......... have no word :/
Agreed. Pay for everything. I will buy Stalker 2, cheaper then NOT getting a loot box skin .... Is it still 300 dollars for 1? Agree with others, time to take a break from this game. Low server population will send a message.
Locking content challenges behind a premium currency is ... gross. Thanks for covering this,
I loved this game but i am taking a break from it until we get some REAL new content. I am so sick of doing the same things over and over and over.
So the end game in any mmo …
Well this one wipes so there's that @@redshift912
yeah thats the best you can do when your burnt out or bored
@@redshift912 if OH doesnt have Wipe . mmo end game grind u can horde stuff OH only the Weapon/armor Blueprint stuff like Building crafting matrial just rot in Eternalland, to bring that stuff to new scenario is very limited its like i know i got like tons of acid in eternalland but can only bring some to new Scenario,i need to redo whole stuff again and i know i got plenty of this stuff and cannot use cuz DEV doesnt know what game they trying to make .only major Update just Lightforge after Lightforge after Lightforge.
@@redshift912 other MMO you have reason to do it. you get new gear/mount/crafting items that you can keep or sell, also they drop new content every 2 to 3 months until their next expansion. here you will lose everything and start over again, it takes away the reason for grinding.
I was very excited, but it feels bad now. I truly was looking forward to the next updates...but if I am being honest, it feels like they were talking about different games at certain points. They took what people wanted and put up more paywalls. Even in places that doesn't make since. This shows how the devs are thinking and It makes me concerned for the game long-term. There are multiple things that really just...honestly feel disrespectful to the players. It's odd to even say it like that, but it's true. They have something great here and they need to be careful not to make it pander to so many groups all at once. Even EA started taking notes on charging people for achievements.
I agree with your opinion about the overzealous monetization. I have spent about $250 on this game and I am willing to spend more to support development. I have waited on investing in loot crate cosmetics to see what direction they go. They really do have a gem on their hands with this game. All they have to do is give us content with free attainable rewards which provides us with value for our time spent. Do this in parallel wtih the cosmetic shop and we will spend to support the game we love. DO NOT lock content behind a pay wall as it is definitely a
"feels bad moment" that I do not want to feel in this game. Are things overpriced, yes? Do we buy anyway because we love this game, yes? Give us more entertaining content and it will continue. I really do love this game as it scratches so many itches at once with an innovative atmosphere. Cruising with a side of fries is something I want to continue to be able to do for a long time to come.
00:25 Stellar Stairway
04:15 Collection Level
05:45 Phantom Cube Explanation
12:43 Meta Bounty (he's mad the dev paywalled everything LOL I agree with him wholeheartedly)
19:30 Quick Recap of OH Live Stream
The bounties suck. Tbh, ALL the microtransactions are insanely expensive. The new TV head skin pack? It costs like $75 dollars!! WtAf?! The building sets costing $50 dollars is BS. A normal skin costing $20 dollars is absurd.
And especially when there isn't any new content.
This sucks super bad because I was 100% behind this developer/game studio. Because they aren't pay to win, and they USED to NOT be gouging the player base for so much cash. Honestly, if they just did what you said and let us earn small amounts of Crystogens in game, then it wouldn't be so bad. And it would be greatly appreciated if they lowered the prices of the shop items. It's actually insane how much it all costs.
Also they REALLY need to fix the lag. I have really good internet and I get so much lag it's ridiculous. Sometimes I actually just have to close the game fully and stop playing because of how bad the server lag is. Literally makes the game unplayable.
Its a free game, and not pay to win. The cosmetics are purely optional. I paid for the glass house pack months ago, and thats it. No one is making me buy hyper expensive cosmetics, and im ok with that. Just dont buy them
This game has been in development for like 10 yrs.. people just dont know. and NetEase is known for money grab. milk their games and create the next game. They are actually known to abandon the games.. The only difference this time around, is that they are doing it to PC gamers and no mobile gamers.. And thats where a lot of us hope that they would change their ways.
Skins and cosmetic being expensive is not a problem, as long as they didnt add status effect bonus on them, since in the end of the day "it's just cosmetic", "I look cool coz i have money" and that is still a fine line.
lagging?? then pay to them so they can buy better server stop complaining
Why are you complaining about a fyp game having expensive micro transactions? Do you just want them to make no money you dont need to buy them lol
Pay to unlock achievements, now THAT'S a new low
EA taking notes: "I didn't know we could do that."
I've just started playing and already totally overwhelmed with all the currencies , boxes , navigation screens, just everything. I know I'm missing a lot of content by just not knowing and not being able to find it. Then you have this seasonal timer which might be a game breaker for me.
I just got the game myself. played for about 2 hours. i think 90% of that time i was looking at all the sub menus & was like totally overwhelmed.
it’s really not that bad at all honestly resets that is
I’ve bin playing for months and I’m still overwhelmed when I need to open my menu to go find where I need to go 😭 especially with the winter event it’s even more tabs n I’m like trying to find where to go all the time n remember it 😮 they gotta do something with the tabs too for sure
Yeah i definitely have to agree with you on the "scammy" feeling with everything being a cash grab opportunity. I play a lot of different games and almost every one of them offer a "F2P" aspect where you can earn the premium currency, even if it is at a VERY slow rate. I whole heartedly agree with making cosmetics a paid thing on a F2P game but to charge people for trophies and bounties is a bit over the acceptable line. Reason being, these trophies aren't just something you can purchase and set in your territory, you actually have to go out and complete challenging tasks.... looking forward to the rest of the stuff they mentioned in the live stream though.
One step closer to becoming the mobile game it dreams of being.
its not a mobile game, it's aa cross platform game. same as genshit impact
@@0Createsa mobile game. the sub menus to the menus of the sub menus should tell you that
@@0Createsit's a mobile game pretending to be more.
@@A_damn.000 how is this a mobile game if you can currently play it on pc and consoles atm?
I can sense someones getting a break 😅 come join the club
I’ve had tons of fun playing I think the trophies should just be part of the monthly sub if you get it done in a month boom! It is a free to play so they have to make some $$ the loot crates are ridiculous expensive tho
i wish they would just charge us for the game and make their other content as dlc. if there were no micrtransactions the game wouldnt need the antihack software and it would run better.
I have to agree the Pay Wall is getting dumb. I will admit I have spent $300+ to look pretty but it is stuff that I liked and it didn't hinder me playing the game in anyway so that is why I paid for for it. But locking content behind pay wall that is dumb.
As long us its not pay to win. No cosmetics or furniture will affect the gameplay itself. Im still ok with the game.
As far as I know, no one is forcing us to buy those paywall stuff.
after the mobile version is released, i'm sure this will be lifeafter part 2
I am actually fine with them taking the time they need to deploy new scenarios at or above Manibus quality. They rushed out Way of Winter, which is why the first half is great, the second half was empty and unfinished / untested. I would rather they finish WoW interim so it’s as good as Manibus, because for me it feels like a downgrade right now.
Amazing game, I still love its quirky blend of everything, but hard to see how I’ll have a reason to keep playing after this third season of Manibus and will probably have to take a break.
Some people in the comments keep forgeting that this game is a free to play, with a HUGE work behind, work that COST money, so yes, might seems a bit weird that they put microtransactions everywhere BUT I can understand that when this is one of the few games that IS NOT a pay to win, especially with all the work they have done, in LESS THAN HALF A YEAR!
this game has been in the works since 2022
You have to pay for achievements bud
uh "bounty", you're supposed to be paid not the other way around 😭
they also made the cw a lot harder to kill. the torso weakspot is only a weakspot after u break the armor and that only happens towards the end of the 1/6 hp threshold. no weakspot from 2/6 until it's nearly died means even wildfire can't trigger ws hit. so much for making killing cw easier.
oh about the status dmg on cw... tested a couple of weapons. little jaws bombs still immune most of the time. only occasionally see dmg numbers and most of the time it says "immune". abyss glance gives 15k frost ticks which is ok when theres no weakspot. i don't have power surge built so I didnt test that.
I bump into you while you were doing this video lol, I was trying to figure out what you were shooting lol.
The collection level comes from upgrading your blueprints themselves
I am so glad I am not the only one who kept miss pronouncing the Asterism word LOL. I'm glad I watched this, when doing my Christmas special video, I completely missed the Collection Level Weapon Renaming Card screen.
And for the part about the Miracle of Joy under the Meta Bounty, I too am not very pleased with this. My main character went out and did whatever to get the trophy. However, I did not get it, my alt character got it, and that character didn't do anything but log in. But the PAY for it?! Not cool. Wow! WOW!!!!
Also, I was talking to Troygamingtv and I had asked him what happen to the Band? Remember we did all those quests for the Band and then when we got to The Way of Winter there was nothing. It's like they try to add new stuff for us to enjoy but then drop the ball. Personally, I think Scenario 2: TWOW was an unfinished rushed Scenario.
I mean don't get me wrong, I freaking LOVE this game like you. If I didn't, I wouldn't have a main and three alts that have all played Manibus 3x's and TWOW once.
But anyway, thanks for the video and the news update.
Come join me in POE2.
dude , I just wish they open more of the map, cool video bro thanks 4 the info.⚡👍
That bounty is a me$$
It costs a lot of money to run servers. It's a free game. I understand being upset that things costs money, and I do agree, some things look to cost way too much, especially locking content behind having to pay for it, but that's effectively what DLCs do all the time, heh. The company is spending a lot of money to make the game for people to play, and, unfortunately, they have to get money somehow. It sucks sometimes when things seem outrageously priced, but also sucks when a game you like disappears because they can't afford the upkeep.
Yup true but people love to complain alot
I do agree that cosmetics are a bit expensive, but a necessary evil and something that doesn't affect gameplay, awesome.
BUT to pay to unlock achievements is a HUGE bs and you know it. That's in no way, shape or form acceptable.
And I'm sorry but the whole purpose of DLC is to get more content, which we will only get in 6 months (at the earliest) or so, until then? I hope you enjoy Way of Winter and Manibus. You know what, I would rather pay for a new good scenario as DLC at this point.
This is not a good way to monetize a f2p game. I constantly say that every free game should look at warframe as a model on how to monetize a free game and keep your players happy. If you like gacha games then Genshin is a good model as well. This model is complete garbage. $50 US for a glass building pack?! Ridiculous
I disagree with your thought process, why would you want a smaller player base to sell to? Why wouldn't you make pricing reasonable and make it more accessible to others. A larger pool of consumers equals more income. Especially when you are talking about a game. The pricing is higher than most other cosmetics in other games, that is just a fact. I have participated in the loot crates because I can afford to, that does not mean I have to agree with it. Just an observation half the players leaving felt it was looking like a cash grab, while others wanted more content. Both camps have valid points and there are better ways than gambling to monetize a game. I have no issue continuing to play the game. I just wish they wanted more players.
@@JohnnyJordan-z3y I agree with this. Lots of people are what make MICRO-transactions work. Having fewer people is what makes them have to make things expensive. Much more lucrative to have 30 people spend $3 than to have 10 spend $6. Also, the way they make and run servers, they could decrease the amount of servers they have if they needed to, easily. They choose to have this many open and running and purposefully lock/close them after a short time period.
The weapon collection system goes up by unlocking weapon and gear blue prints and their star levels. I upgraded most my lower level guns and gear so I’m past level 130.
Me just fishing with peeps and got 2400 starcrom at the process. 10/10 update. 🤣👍
I'm 100% with your opinion
Confusing is a good way to describe a few of the new things indeed 😁
Is ther coming more from Heat Death: Survival Train?
When they announced the parch, i thought they mentioned we could earn Crystgin, maybe for this purpose. But u havent heard where do we earn it.
LOL I thought the bounties at first was unlock crystgin amount as reward... How foolish of me
I agree the pay wall is exhausting
collection level exp can be gained when you upgrade blueprints.
Thank you for covering the update I was worried they would give me too much to do and it would take time from path of exile 2 early access. Poe 2 is so fun.
Considering everything you pay for is just for looks... I don't have a problem with it, it just needs more balance. The game is free, zero pay to win or even pay to play. They should add more medals that are just free play unlocks. As long as there is balance, I dont mind considering the game is completely free.
One step forward, three steps back.
im begging everyone to criticize the quality of microtransactions and not the microtransactions themselves. the game is free to play and not pay to win. as long as they want to keep it that way they can only get money through cosmetic transactions.
That is a silly thing because you can play this game without Crystgin. It is like in real Life. You cannot buy all you see. You see an expensive car and cannot buy it. Hey, what's new? In this game is the same, you cannot buy a luxury Badge. No problem. So don't look in this shop. It is like you go in a luxury shop without money. Why do you go there? Go to a shop where you can use the money you have and the currency you have. As I said, just as in the real life. Stay clear and Merry Xmas, every one!
Hey thanks for all the free information, except for the ads. I really hated the ads. I don’t see why u need to have ads when u could just tell all this for free. The video had a time limit and I didn’t plan for the ad time. Really big let down.
I get the annoyance of playing Manibus multiple times, but they have 4 scenarios now. Theres way of winter, prismverse, and they did release another one at the start of this season. All you have to do is just look at the new scenarios.
Dont get me wrong, I've played Manibus three times now. I did play way of winter once, but i joined late and didn't get to finish.
The only reason why I'm back on manibus now is because I've introduced a friend to this game and I wanted to start them out on Manibus and help them work through the game. Otherwise, I'd be on way of winter again.
4 scenarioes if you like or don't mind PVP, but still only 2 if you're a player that doesn't want to PVP (or vice versa as a player that is just interested in the PVP). A good amount of the player base isn't really interested in the PVP side of the game so it's not a matter of not looking and noticing there are 4 options. It's about 2 of those 4 options not being a playstyle that the player wants to get into.
The ability to get the premium currency free has been in all games i played u dont get alot but it builds up over time. So i was surprised this game didnt do that.
Even if u give like 50-100 a week
It will make alot of fp2 play everyday to do whatever they need to collect it.
I sort of predict this game is going to need a monthly sub to stay sustainable to get us the game we want.
The blob kinda looks like the things from cargo conquest. The purple skin for vortex is just yellow(yellow snow) XD
Bounty price is definitely disgusting. It's P2P which is technically P2W. It's actual game content you can't play unless you pay. this goes against the promise of no P2W content.
if they released the missions for free with smaller rewards then locked the trophy itself behind a paywall i could have accepted that.
The backpacks are cool.
Anyway i'm looking forward to the new scenarios. Hopefully we don't have to worry about all of our stuff getting stolen in them. i wouldn't mind a small fraction but not all of it.
it's mine and my wife's second time on Manibus and we are feeling the same way about the micro transactions
Most of us pvers want scenarios we know its a lot of work on development costs
as time goes on part of me is feeling the publisher is getting a little too involved in the background
Ngl I don't care much of what they did as long as they didn't put any cash item that would impact the game directly, such as "buying" guns or a pack where u got a legendary weapons and armor.
and as long as the cometic didn't give additional effect on combat I'm fine with how much they cost me for.
This game waaayyy too much menus and systems.
The new stuff is confusing with no explanation. I just ignore it.
yeah i loved this game, played it since release, bored of it in more ways than i can list on an A4 sheet of paper, and as soon as you shown them having a release for it on mobile i instantly lost all hope i had left for it
Yeah they need to make the challenges free. It could’ve been the content that keeps players engaged. It’s a shame because everything else seems like a win
The stellar Vortex kinda looks like the blobs from the Cargo Run event....
For the bounty I bought one in error since i thought it was something else regret it so much. Hopefully if people don't buy them they change it.
Asterism is like asterisk but with an m instead of k.
collection level, level will increase fast if you upgrade guns
Even if lets say I have lots of extra cash, i wouldnt be spending consistently into one game just coz fomo. Like no thanks.
I love this game as well but not being able to get a house spot in blackfell made me quit, just too much grinding for end game if you cant get a base in blackfell. Poor design...But ill keep checking on news to see if it ever changes :)
Paywalling Achievements is a big new low what the heck!
The achievement bounties are a perfect way to create some endgame content because we are getting scenarios at a much slower rate (they promised 3~4 scenario each year) but we get our new scenario in JULY 2025! THATS WAY TOO LATE!
I agree with you they should've added a way to get some premium currency if they wanna do this MACRO (not micro cosmetics on this game is frickin expensive) transactions ,it would've mitigate some of the criticism but OH WELL.
I would probably quit after my current scenario ends :L, sucks that I do enjoy this game but I can't continue supporting it.
il be doing rest of battle pass then shelfing the game i think
The paid bounties are BS, that needs to be changed.
kudos for pointing out the bounty. But if we can get it for free, we can ignore that paywall & let the whales that have less time to play to either do it or buy it.
there's a button for claim all
Good game, but I've already left due to the high cost of cosmetics, and this definitely won't bring me back.
If amongst the various logins and rewards systems they have like battle pass or the seasonal content it had the option to earn 1-5 crysign a week or even an absurdly horrible exchange rate of starcrom to crysign it would be palatable.
I get they need to put alot of the extraneous content behind these blockades for server upkeep to keep the game free to play it does hurt their retention rate that end gamers or game lovers who can't drop $30-$60 on premium currency to do those events.
It would absolutely drive up the player count if people could see what saving their free earned currency could get them from watching channels like yours or other game streamers who either have the financial freedom to showcase or their polls rabidly endorsed the necessary expense to see whats behind the gilded walls.
I forget. How much did you pay for the game?
How did you think they would get paid?
I absolutely will not be doing deviation pokemon. That sounds stupid af.
Truly.
By waiting until Q3 they have officially killed this game for PC. Just going off the player base metrics there is zero chance on this game surviving that long. They are clearly hoping that mobile picks up a lot of new people to hold them over and could care less about PC.
@ 12:00 its probably just taken from Valve and their love of stat tracking on items nothing more.
Broo.. no the medals are not paid.. the money is just a faster and instant way of unlocking the trophies.. do the underlying task to get the trophy. See u have done some of the task in 1 of the trophy. 😂😂
Are you sure about that? Because if that was the case wouldn't using the 1 Crystgin for the discounted trophies mean they should be instantly peaceable? They're not. Even after unlocking them you need to do the tasks in order to be able to place them.
@@MsDarkness1313 Yah bro.. I just tested "The Meaning of Family" exploration bounty.. I did all the task but didn't recieve the medal.. I have to buy it with 60 crystgin even after doing all the task....A big L😢
No fr my bf cant buy stuff and we were both excited looking at the new trophy’s n then saw we had to pay for the cool ones and got upset like why?!?! Not everyone has money like that, more people need to speak up against them with this making us pay to have fun for a free game! 🥺 I love the game because it’s different but it’s starting to be not a game I wanna play everyday anymore because they are greedy asf, reminding me of EA fr
Absurd that you have to pay for a trophy for something you earn. They are focusing more on putting out things to buy versus giving us new content.
it was 75k before, not sure what's so "crazy" about earning less.
Once human devs don't want to sell power, so to please their overlords with some form of monetization, specially to justify all of these server costs, they have to become a skins factory and paywall stupid things. I like the dev, but they'll always be stuck between a rock and a hard place, under NetEase.
I'm still waiting for the mobile launch
stop huffing and puffing about microtransactions, once human is one of the rare games where actual progress(i.e. starchrom), can NOT be bought for money, everything you pay money for is purely cosmetic and bragging rights, will NOT boost you.
I don’t really understand why this game has so much negative reviews because no one is forcing you to pay to play. It’s still a free game and really they have to make money to continue developing the game and also earn money somehow to pay their staff!
EVERYTHING is so expensive nowadays so we need to be more respectful and understand that end of the day this is not just a game but people’s job behind the scenes. 🤷🏻♀️
Still, you can play and enjoy the game with a tons of free stuff if you haven’t got the money to pay for cosmetics, bounty, etc. Also, they are ppl who can do mistakes but luckily they have the ability to correct it if they want :) that’s just my opinion.
Haven't played in months due to a loss of interest. Might fire it back up for the neck of it.
...player since day 1, here. currently playing my 4th manibus & 2nd winter... multiple characters, multiple accounts... 6 star weapons & armor... had 50k starchrom going into S04 on my original character, now 100k+ and it's only good for the wish machine. starchrom has lost all value for me. the pay-wall for content challenges, the rushed winter scenario... if they put as much time into making content as they did events, it might have had some lasting interest - but, at this point i think i'm done with this game for a while - maybe for good.
Im glad im invested my time and money on holiday with PoE2 instead looking back playing this a$$crap of macrotransactions 🤦🏻♂️
I stopped playing after the first 6 weeks. It was a great game. But I realized that the game would be a pay pay pay type of game. In the first week I pushed 100 hours then over the rest of the time I just up kept my acid farm but never logged back in after reset. The problem with non pay to win games is they always throw in here by this for these guys. Or the glass walls which was my favorite thing but 80 bucks bruh for real?? The trophy thing for a few bucks here and there isn't really a big deal. I think the issue comes in when you have to spend countless hours having to grind the kills. That's where my issue is. But they also said the game isn't a pay to win game. And it isn't. There is no where that I know of where you can pay money to get farther or advance farther than someone else in the game. But they make 0 money from us without introducing ways for us to spend money so I also understand why they're doing it. It's a free game 100% and I will not complain for what they've given us. The game is great. At least for what I've played im about to log on now. See the changes.
The game is fun on the first run through everything, becomes tedious and boring afterwards, but don't worry because "everyone loves the overpriced cosmetics, server resets, the ability to not be able to delete unused characters, etc...", we also "love" that the deviants become useless and pointless mid to end game.
Lvl from unlocking weapen and lvl bp
Unistall this game was the best thing i ever did in my life, greedy devs, and i'm sorry but stupid are those who pay anything to this guys cause they know how to manipulate people and i feel sorry for this people.
seriously can not belive people are willing to defend the bounties, these are just straight GROSSSSSSS
Pls friend do u have a hive?
so they added a currency to get a currency i was already getting, yeah we get more but what's the point of an entire new currency to get what we were already getting it lol, they just needed to increase the starchrom no need for all these extra steps to get what we were already getting and now a new menu on top of all the others lol
While I totally agree on having yet another currency and another menu on top of all the other already existing ones being silly. The new starchrom earning way works in a way where anything you do in the game basically will work toward getting your starchrom. Before specific activities were the way and if you're a player that is behind due to real-life or just playing at a slower pace it can make earning some of that starchrom either very difficult or not doable. For example my friend was busy with real-life that hit them mid season. So when Nightmare Prime Wars opened up on Manibus they couldn't get involved in them. By the time they were able to get back to the game nobody in the server was running them at any of the times he could play even when asking in world chat. Meaning he was automatically blocked out of getting all of the nightmare PW first clear starchrom. Now with the new system he can still catch up with earning starchrom even if he gets busy so long as he can get back to play before the reset time happens. I have no idea why it required a whole extra middle step and yet another currency to do, but I do think the new method of earning them is better for players overall.
@@MsDarkness1313 you missed my point they could have just added the new system to starchrom without adding a new currency and menu lol it's a pointless step. so my way the asterisms you now earn doing any content just have it reward starchrom to the point of 66k per month 12k per week there's zero reason to add a new currency lol
for example i now have to open crates to get asterisms to then get starchrom can you see the stupidity of it, i used to open crates to get starchrom lol. just increase the starchrom from the same events that give atserisms . They just added extra steps to get to the same point and to what end it's not an improvement it's an added complication to get to the exact same point. madness wrapped in more madness from them.
What the game actually is, is anti-pay to win. Absolutely nothing you can spend money on will impact your performance. No build times you can pay to skip or OP gear you can buy absolutely nothing progression based locked behind a pay-wall. You can even get the achievements checked off without buying the actual trophy itself. You’re just paying for optional cosmetics. It is f2p, but people forget what sets it apart from other f2p games is it is anti-p2w.
If a game is free, then it will be the most expensive game you have played.. idk why it just always like that.
most free to play games are heavily monetized for items you actually need or the good cosmetics. nothing really new tbh..
my favourite game is turning into my least favorite game the devs are killing this game with the micro transactions & no NEW content
i wish there a way to preview all the effects before i buy it
I have the exact same reaction to the bounties i screenshot it to all my friedns and was soooooo excited just to know it was paid like plz!! I did not relog after checking the update 😢 so disappointed eventho i can buy all the bounties but this is just not acceptable
Aster-ism. Aster-ism. Aster-ism. Aster-ism.
i have 159 k starcrom
stupid to release like two new and two optimized szennarios in the same quarter, should have spread that
Cool
Once human is starting to become just a store, with every new update is just a storefront, I know they need to make money, but that doesn't excuse them from being greedy. Everything is too expensive and had little to offer to make the game fun. I would say "I love the game" but no its just "I just like the game" and with every lightforge they release, I'm starting to dislike and ignore the game entirely.
I really like the game but with every update is just a monetization update, I just can't.
they have a opportunity to get people back playing that repetetive game but they try to force them to play a hard challenge there no ineterest to pay for a challenge to tryhard for a challenge they need us to play their game to make it interesting not force me to pay to do a challenge :'( i realy love this game and hope play it for a long time but after this update and this stupid marketing movement .......... have no word :/
so much starchrom
Agreed. Pay for everything.
I will buy Stalker 2, cheaper then NOT getting a loot box skin .... Is it still 300 dollars for 1?
Agree with others, time to take a break from this game.
Low server population will send a message.