The most astounding about his remains are, for me, his teeth. They link us directly to the past. They’re the same teeth people saw hundreds of years ago. Every time he spoke, shouted, wept, screamed, laughed, those around him saw the exact same teeth we get to see today. It’s amazing.
How cool and gratifying it must be to find out you are so directly descended from a historical figure like that, even if it's quite possible they weren't the greatest. We are so much more than individuals alone, we are links in a never-ending chain who carry fascinating stories in our cells, waiting to be discovered and told.
I find it interesting that despite his apparent back problems he happened to have been a military leader who led troops in battle, which is probably why he was more or less hacked to pieces. On one show despite losing the battle he refused to retreat which say something about the man himself.
Credible accounts have him charging forward in the midst of the battle with his contingent in a decapitation-type strike to take out the enemy commander and thus end the battle early. He became isolated, was dismounted from his horse, and then, stuck in mud, surrounded and overkilled.
@@Peirithous Good question, but it was his enemies who buried him there. They weren't going to be interested in giving him him a distinguished burial especially since Henry Tudor was overthrowing him. It was even supposed they threw him in a river if I heard correctly.
Not true. Everyone knew he was likely buried in the grounds of the old church, and where the church was. Just most of it was built over and whether he'd been moved or disturbed by other building works over the centuries was also unknown. Philipa persuaded everyone to have a go, and that it was worthwhile even if they didn't find him as other artifacts and historical information would be found. So she deserves credit for him being found, but not for knowing where to dig. She didn't pinpoint him.
@@stickerino a prince who was to be king of England. He spent the night at the Tower of London with his brother. Both little boys were murdered. Only recently found the boys bodies.
Hope I’m correct in saying, tricky dickie was the last King of England to lead his army into battle. From thereafter the royals took a backseat, allowing others fight their battles for them. This might be because Richard III was the last of the Plantagenets.👑
Can you imaging being the pathologist who gets to fiddle with the King's teeth and skull? I would be frightened to drop the thing. Nerves of steel. And you can tell your grand kids...."I touched Richard III jaw bone"
zenoist2 He was indeed, Brave " _Richard led a cavalry charge deep into the enemy ranks in an attempt to end the battle quickly by striking at Henry Tudor himself.Accounts note that King Richard fought bravely and ably during this manoeuvre, unhorsing Sir John Cheyne, a well-known jousting champion, killing Henry's standard bearer Sir William Brandon and coming within a sword's length of Henry Tudor before being surrounded by Sir William Stanley's men and killed_ " Within a sword's length - that's around 40 inches. He very nearly got him. Bet old henry tudor needed a change of underwear before his men brought Richard down.
+Kha sab "Old" Henry Tudor was five years younger than Richard III; at Battle of Bosworth, age 26 to Richard's 32. You project your own juniority upon Richard.
@@JudgeJulieLit nonsense in English we use 'old' as a sort of term of endearment, old bean. old chap, old thing nothing to do with their age. Also I could claim that he's 'old' in the sense that this was all a long time ago. " _in days of old, when knights were bold_ " So you are doubly wrong, soss p.s. my 'juniority' ?? I'm older than both of them mate
There's always something eerie about seeing the teeth of historical figures, those are the only parts of their skeleton that would have been visible in life.
May you now rest in peace. Personally I would like to have seen your eternal burial site at Yorkminster but the amazing work done by those in Leicester. I wonder if the actors playing Richard 111 will change their look?
I fell in love with Laurence Olivier and Richard when I was 11 and went to see Richard III. I was enthralled, bewitched and completely fascinated by it. This was the start of a 70 year old obsession of love and indignation. I wanted to know all about Richard III. There is certainly no shortage of material to be found in writing , concerning Richard. He is the most written about king in the whole history of England’s kings. (and queens ). Richard is NOT the monster he is made out to be, or rather not as Tudor historians, namely Holinshed and Hall, and of course Bishop Morton. It was Morton who passed on his biased and distorted opinion to his pupil a certain Thomas More. Shakespeare also had a part to play in the distorted picture we have of Richard Richard was a man of his time and we should not project nor put your moral and social conscience to a man of the 15th century. Life was more brutal, and the king and the lords surrounding him, they were both brutal and cruel. That was their world. And of course during the war of the roses, called in their time the war of the cousins, this was even more true. Civil war is the most violent and heinous of conflicts far more savage than fighting an outside enemy Anyway it is not before time that historians are now presenting a more balanced picture of him, and rightly so. A particularly good account of the man and his times was the series of books by Paul Murray Kendall dealing with the events and personalities in at mid 1400s. I relished and avidly devoured them. I recommend them. R.I.P. Richard
No offence, but you cannot assume that he was a nice character, these were brutal times and to be king was highly the top job and the most power, so it was highly likely he killed his nephews and had them hidden at the tower, he had nothing to lose and everything to gain
I agree, there were several parties intent on removing the House of York. of course what happened during the Tudor dynasty was that virtually all the remaining descendants of the Plantagenet dynasty were executed. This facilitated the Stuart claim to the throne when the Tudors died out in 1603. And we all know what a total disaster that was. Short-sightedness always leads to problems down the line.
He wouldnt have even gone into a battle if he was a coward. Can you imagine any king or president, prime minister or whatever doing that today in a war thay have declared and begun? Nor can I. He was the last english king killed in battle. No doubt he was a brave man ready to die for his beleifs and fully worthy of my respect.
Philippa Jayne Langley is the name of the woman who started this entire project. She is the one who believed he was there, she is the one who fought tooth and nail to get the site excavated, she is the one behind it all. Yet she was never mentioned, and these people make it sound like their own glory. Philippa Jayne Langley -- remember her name
I remember the paintings of him showing him as having a very pronounced and squared-off chin. Like many people I always wondered just how accurate those old paintings were and whether the real person actually looked like their paintings. And then we finally got to see Richard III's actual skull... and there was the same pronounced and squared-off chin from his paintings. Amazing.
It's fascinating how we can identify remains now. Richard died like a warrior king. Fighting and refusing to back down. He was ruined by the Tudor propaganda machine.
As an American, my only knowledge about Richard was Shakespeare, but thanks to Horrible Histories, I became aware of other opinions, he appears to have been a good king, but since the Tudor claim to the throne, was tenuous, at best, they set out to quash any other claims.
I hope Richard resides within the heavens drinking from the purest waters of the fountains of life and enjoying the bountiful sun rays free from the Earth which has been deceived by centuries of propaganda into believing this GREAT and HEROIC man was evil. God bless him.
Didn't he have the 2 true young heirs to the throne murdered ?After THEY were placed under his protection &trusted into his care?That if true doesnt sound very noble or just.And they were merely young boys.So if true why would he be considered a good king or a righteous person &deserve a place in heaven at all?
@@devilafaewelch4621 Highly contested. Since Parliament declared them ineligible for rule based on lineage, it's an open question who had to gain most by their deaths. Possibly the answer is Margaret Beaufort, Henry VII's mother.
Impressive. And what is really mind boggling is, that proving this was Richard III ,could just have happened in a short window of time - not 50 years later. Neither of the living descendants of Richard, needed for the proof, have children. Or, as far as I know- the female descendant a daughter , essential for the mitochondrial DNA. And of course earlier DNA research had not reached the level it has now. Finding Richard - in the first place - would not have happened without the initiative of Philippa Langley and her and John Ashdown Hills passionate work and dedication.
I remember the program shown on PBS (Secrets of the Dead, I think) about finding the King's remains under a car park. How the scientists were able to identify the skeleton from hundreds of years ago. Makes me stop and think about who or what remains am I walking on? Creepy! And so fascinating.
The biggest surprise to me was that he actually had a skeletal deformity since it was long suspected that was an exaggeration by the Tudors to make him more villainous.
My deceased husband was a direct descendant of George Neville, the one who was the Archbishop of York and President of Oxford University, and sometimes king, and once who had his current king in prison, but allowed him to escape.. His banquet that went for weeks when he was placed into the position of York of Archbishop was the largest in recorded history. King Richard III and his wife of the time were at the banquet. ---Myreen Moore Nicholson
Was there preexisting knowledge with regard to the general whereabouts of the body or was this truly an unintentional, lucky find by construction workers resurfacing or tearing up an old parking lot? Fascinating story.
They had a few possible locations for the burial, that was one of the rough areas. They knew that land was once an important graveyard, and being close to the battle thought it was a strong candidate for the location. So they looked for him knowing there was a slim chance and got lucky.
The area of this parking lot used to be a friary that dated back to the medieval period. Contemporary accounts of the Battle of Bosworth said that his body, after some public abuse, was taken to the friary and buried there. So researches had a pretty good idea that he was likely somewhere under the parking lot, but pinpointing the particular location was a bit of artistry and luck.
Those shallower wounds could have been solid hits that occurred while Richard was wearing a helmet. Those suits of armour were pretty sophisticated and could take one hell of a pounding.
@@alanthomas2064 Read a modern history book ffs, the two princes were seen as illegitimate in the eyes of the government so it would’ve made no sense for Richard to then murder them unless it was to put them on spikes and show he destroyed the illegitimate line. It was most likely the mother of Henry Tudor, who defeated and then succeeded Richard III which ordered the death of the princes. Mainly because the Tudor claim to the throne was strenuous at best and the Tudors historically wiped out any claimants who had better claims than themselves.
@@GuacJuan Richard WAS the government. He betrayed his brother by declaring his brother’s marriage illegal and his children illegitimate. But in those days people could be declared illegitimate one day and be re-legitimised the next. (See John of Gaunt and his complicated descendants). So the boys could still be a threat to Richard’s rule. He killed those he thought would support the boys, dismissed the boys servants and they were never seen again. But Richard under-estimated his sister-in-law, Elizabeth Woodville, and Margaret Beaufort, great grand-daughter of John of Gaunt and mother to Henry Tudor.
One of the most intriguing stories of the past decade! I hope some day, the mystery of the Two Princes will be solved. How about some DNA research on the remains (claimed to be the Princes) in Westminster Abbey?
The Queen is deeply religious and that may be the basis of her decision to avoid disturbance of the bones. She may also think it's too "trivial" a reason to disturb them. She's not into history to that extent. There's also the question of setting a precedent. If you allow the bones of previous monarchs to be disturbed, historians might want to dig more of them up and maybe she thinks her own bones might be disturbed at some future date also. Maybe another monarch in future might give consent.
Thanks, I found the article. In a related article about one of the princes, Edward, it says that two skeletons were found and re-buried in Westminster Abbey, but the identities have not been conclusively proven, and no one really knows what happened to the princes. They could do DNA tests now, if they wanted, but it would require permission from the queen, since nothing can be done with a royal grave or royal remains without royal permission (said the article).
The heir-apparent, uncrowned at death King Edward V was age 12 ... likely not a "small" skeleton, as his father King Edward IV was 6 feet 4 inches tall.
Yes, they now have the male Plantagenet DNA, donated by the Beaufort family (who are directly descended in the male line from John of Gaunt). So if permission were given they could try and match this with the bones in the Abbey. But it won't happen. It would be opening a huge can of worms.
I saw the entire documentary on television. It was interesting to see how a person untrained in history or archeology could do what the experts had failed to do, find Richard’s resting place.and Shakespeare had it right all along, he did suffer from a severe curvature of the spine.
It wasnt until he was in his teens that the curvature started. He would also have learned to work through the pain of it. Often a non untrained person go at research in a different way. The experts often have tunnel vision and dont look around but only straight at without accepting anything else. I am a genealogist and often run into a brick wall so I then have to spread the research out into different searches.
It was in the Tudor period that people living in England had access to raw sugar for the first time *correction - slave labour in the Tudor period actually made sugar much more affordable*.You see a massive increase in chronic tooth decay and deaths attributed to rotting teeth in the Tudor Middle class and Nobility (as they now had a massive proportion of sugar in their diets) they actually used to eat more sugar treats in the hopes to stop their bad breath caused by tooth decay from eating so much sugar. I thought it was only a recent issue for humans.
No she didn't. While Langley played an indispensable role in making the dig happen, she lacked the expertise to make the discovery. A professional ULAS employee named Matthew Morris rediscovered Richard.
She states that you grind up the powder and put it into a tube, and while you are doing this you also place two (2) blank tubes, either side and back. And then she says that what you are hoping for is to find DNA in the tube, and not in the two blanks. And then she says that is exactly what happened, as the blanks were empty and the only DNA we had came from the tube. It seems rather intuitive that one would only get DNA from the tube where you put the powdered bone, and not from the blank tubes. And one can also add that when centrifuging samples, controls and counterweighting tubes are added. It seems that her explanation of this is rather redundant.
so....there appears to be a new fracture of the skull above the left eye at or between the frontal and parietal. especially as they don't mention it as an injury to the skull at or before death. my first thought was that someone (digging) messed up a bit.....just a guess. hope I'm wrong. if so wouldn't you hate to be the person that put a trowel thru Richard III's skull? but accidents do happen.
thanks for your reply. two skeletons were found. it's in wikipedia and here is part of it, "In 1674, some workmen remodelling the Tower of London dug up a wooden box containing two small human skeletons"
The first archeologist is being totally disingenuous. It was the lady from the Richard III society who identified the burial location. The archeologist didn't believe her, and dismissed her. Watch the TV documentary. It is absolutely fascinating. The archeologist was patronising and arrogant until she was proved wrong.
Totally wrong. Everyone knew he was buried in Greyfriars and where that was in modern day Leicester. The society lady raised the money and got people interested. There was never any secret that he was possibly in that area, just the odds of him being under the buildings or mashed by other works over the centuries meant it wasn't considered worthwhile looking You need to watch it again as you have your facts very mixed up.
She didn't identify any spot. Everyone knew that the old church was where he probably was, unless he'd been moved afterwards, and that he was probably under the choir. But most of the site was built over and it was considered highly unlikely they'd find him...Philippa persuaded them that enough was there to be worthwhile digging and they just got ridiculously lucky. She was scoffed at for many reasons, but not for thinking he was there somewhere...that was generally agreed
Your comments are too stark. I worked with a cardiac consultant at the Royal Free in London many years ago who had scoliosis. During morning ward rounds he was upright and bright. Toward the end of the day he was tipping over to his left and breathless. I imagine Richard 111 was much the same.
I have severe scolliosis and thrpugh the years it has gotten bad enough to the point that i could not sit for long periods of time could not stand for long periods of time and gradually started walking leaning to the right side and constantly out of breath. It caused some other physical health that has forced me to get disability. It is not a fun yhing to have.
The University of Leicester should give express credit to Phillipa who researched the location of the late King. This is only academic etiquette and is shabby if not done.
The most astounding about his remains are, for me, his teeth. They link us directly to the past.
They’re the same teeth people saw hundreds of years ago. Every time he spoke, shouted, wept, screamed, laughed, those around him saw the exact same teeth we get to see today. It’s amazing.
I always think this too!
@@disgruntledunicorn007 It’s extraordinary right!
WOW! what a thought, something I had never considered but yeah I totally get it
quite no sugar at that time... so, healty teeth!
I think this way too! Same with the Moon and Sun, people 600 years ago saw the same celestial objects.
How cool and gratifying it must be to find out you are so directly descended from a historical figure like that, even if it's quite possible they weren't the greatest. We are so much more than individuals alone, we are links in a never-ending chain who carry fascinating stories in our cells, waiting to be discovered and told.
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RIchard 3rd left no known descendants.
@@annpardue4669 his descendants are nieces and nephews from his sister.
@@annpardue4669 He didn't leave a paternal line. But there are descendants.
@@squirleyspitmonkey3926 technically they would be descendants of Richard IIIs sister not Richard himself.
I find it interesting that despite his apparent back problems he happened to have been a military leader who led troops in battle, which is probably why he was more or less hacked to pieces. On one show despite losing the battle he refused to retreat which say something about the man himself.
Credible accounts have him charging forward in the midst of the battle with his contingent in a decapitation-type strike to take out the enemy commander and thus end the battle early. He became isolated, was dismounted from his horse, and then, stuck in mud, surrounded and overkilled.
He had bent back
Henry the 7th Earl of Richmond final blow he gave Richard the3rd
Uh huh ….. and so why then was he buried in that particular graveyard??🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@Peirithous Good question, but it was his enemies who buried him there. They weren't going to be interested in giving him him a distinguished burial especially since Henry Tudor was overthrowing him. It was even supposed they threw him in a river if I heard correctly.
Philippa Langley is the one who pinpointed where Richard was buried and deserves ALL the credit for finding him.
Not true. Everyone knew he was likely buried in the grounds of the old church, and where the church was. Just most of it was built over and whether he'd been moved or disturbed by other building works over the centuries was also unknown. Philipa persuaded everyone to have a go, and that it was worthwhile even if they didn't find him as other artifacts and historical information would be found. So she deserves credit for him being found, but not for knowing where to dig. She didn't pinpoint him.
This video was far better without the drama queen.
@@kevinskipp2762 bullshit. She was the driving force to have him exhumed! And found! Don’t make up lies!
Just saw the movie, seems like the head poncho at Leicester Uni was a bit of a cretin!
Bravo Philippa!
The last English king to die in battle. And found so bravely with such a deformity. He came so close to Henry Tudor.
Who replaced richard 3rd as king?
@@adolflenin4973 Henry Tudor?
@@adolflenin4973 henry the eighths dad
Richard fought to the death. A true warrior. I’m so glad that he’s finally been laid to rest with the respect and care he’s due. May he rest In peace.
Didn't he murder some children at one point?
@@stickerino a prince who was to be king of England. He spent the night at the Tower of London with his brother. Both little boys were murdered. Only recently found the boys bodies.
@@ccbarr58False. The bodies have never been found.
@@stickerinoNot proven, but likely.
Hope I’m correct in saying, tricky dickie was the last King of England to lead his army into battle. From thereafter the royals took a backseat, allowing others fight their battles for them.
This might be because Richard III was the last of the Plantagenets.👑
Can't wait to see "The Lost King". Props to the dedication it took to locate him.
Now I think it would be interesting to do a computerised facial and body reconstruction from the bones.
They did, one of the most handsome men to ever roam this darkened Earth. God bless Richard III.
well, i think they have done that now.
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Absolutely agree!!!
@@billybatts1261 haha yeah
Can you imaging being the pathologist who gets to fiddle with the King's teeth and skull? I would be frightened to drop the thing. Nerves of steel.
And you can tell your grand kids...."I touched Richard III jaw bone"
Yes, these brave band of sisters who dared and did.
They can't bow or genuflect but most handle with the utmost of care. They seemed to do so.
I,d smash it to smithereens and stick him in the trash can where he and the rest of ALL so called royal freeloaders belong.
zenoist2 He was indeed, Brave " _Richard led a cavalry charge deep into the enemy ranks in an attempt to end the battle quickly by striking at Henry Tudor himself.Accounts note that King Richard fought bravely and ably during this manoeuvre, unhorsing Sir John Cheyne, a well-known jousting champion, killing Henry's standard bearer Sir William Brandon and coming within a sword's length of Henry Tudor before being surrounded by Sir William Stanley's men and killed_ "
Within a sword's length - that's around 40 inches. He very nearly got him. Bet old henry tudor needed a change of underwear before his men brought Richard down.
Good one. I too favor Richard III over Tudor and always have. He got a bad wrap because of Shakespeare
Yusuf Reyes I don't favour either of them. I'm just recounting historical accounts of what happened.
I respect that
+Kha sab "Old" Henry Tudor was five years younger than Richard III; at Battle of Bosworth, age 26 to Richard's 32. You project your own juniority upon Richard.
@@JudgeJulieLit nonsense in English we use 'old' as a sort of term of endearment, old bean. old chap, old thing nothing to do with their age. Also I could claim that he's 'old' in the sense that this was all a long time ago. " _in days of old, when knights were bold_ " So you are doubly wrong, soss
p.s. my 'juniority' ?? I'm older than both of them mate
There's always something eerie about seeing the teeth of historical figures, those are the only parts of their skeleton that would have been visible in life.
May you now rest in peace. Personally I would like to have seen your eternal burial site at Yorkminster but the amazing work done by those in Leicester. I wonder if the actors playing Richard 111 will change their look?
I fell in love with Laurence Olivier and Richard when I was 11 and went to see Richard III. I was enthralled, bewitched and completely fascinated by it. This was the start of a 70 year old obsession of love and indignation. I wanted to know all about Richard III. There is certainly no shortage of material to be found in writing , concerning Richard. He is the most written about king in the whole history of England’s kings. (and queens ).
Richard is NOT the monster he is made out to be, or rather not as Tudor historians, namely Holinshed and Hall, and of course Bishop Morton. It was Morton who passed on his biased and distorted opinion to his pupil a certain Thomas More. Shakespeare also had a part to play in the distorted picture we have of Richard
Richard was a man of his time and we should not project nor put your moral and social conscience to a man of the 15th century. Life was more brutal, and the king and the lords surrounding him, they were both brutal and cruel. That was their world. And of course during the war of the roses, called in their time the war of the cousins, this was even more true. Civil war is the most violent and heinous of conflicts far more savage than fighting an outside enemy
Anyway it is not before time that historians are now presenting a more balanced picture of him, and rightly so.
A particularly good account of the man and his times was the series of books by Paul Murray Kendall dealing with the events and personalities in at mid 1400s. I relished and avidly devoured them. I recommend them.
R.I.P. Richard
No offence, but you cannot assume that he was a nice character, these were brutal times and to be king was highly the top job and the most power, so it was highly likely he killed his nephews and had them hidden at the tower, he had nothing to lose and everything to gain
I agree, there were several parties intent on removing the House of York. of course what happened during the Tudor dynasty was that virtually all the remaining descendants of the Plantagenet dynasty were executed. This facilitated the Stuart claim to the throne when the Tudors died out in 1603. And we all know what a total disaster that was. Short-sightedness always leads to problems down the line.
The resemblance of Michael and Richard the III is uncanny. I noticed that in Michaels facial features as he was submitting the DNA sample. Great work.
He wouldnt have even gone into a battle if he was a coward.
Can you imagine any king or president, prime minister or whatever doing that today in a war thay have declared and begun?
Nor can I.
He was the last english king killed in battle.
No doubt he was a brave man ready to die for his beleifs and fully worthy of my respect.
I agree. Why did they defile his grave?
Dale Val my guy this comment was 7 years ago
@@daleval2182 At first, they didn't know it was his grave. The only US president to command as president was Madison, against the English.
@@daleval2182 Don’t get emotional about it.
@@jm329 stfu
This is just so fascinating! A true piece of history right there!
Brilliant work, congratulations to all the people involved in this project.
Pretty amazing how they found him.
Every time i hear her describe a wound i just start to think how the battle would have been and the scars he would've had if he'd lived through it
dude got shanked thru the pelvis by Tudor.. holy hell 😨
Fantastic documentary ! thanks for keeping the public up to date with this wonderful discovery.
Philippa Jayne Langley is the name of the woman who started this entire project. She is the one who believed he was there, she is the one who fought tooth and nail to get the site excavated, she is the one behind it all. Yet she was never mentioned, and these people make it sound like their own glory.
Philippa Jayne Langley -- remember her name
I truly believe that she's in love with Richard!
Watching all of your videos on the find, it's incredible!
What an amazing and historic discovery.
Congratulations to everyone envolved.
👏👏👏👏👏
I remember the paintings of him showing him as having a very pronounced and squared-off chin. Like many people I always wondered just how accurate those old paintings were and whether the real person actually looked like their paintings. And then we finally got to see Richard III's actual skull... and there was the same pronounced and squared-off chin from his paintings. Amazing.
It's fascinating how we can identify remains now. Richard died like a warrior king. Fighting and refusing to back down. He was ruined by the Tudor propaganda machine.
Read a little history......... quo bono will do for a start!
As an American, my only knowledge about Richard was Shakespeare, but thanks to Horrible Histories, I became aware of other opinions, he appears to have been a good king, but since the Tudor claim to the throne, was tenuous, at best, they set out to quash any other claims.
I hope Richard resides within the heavens drinking from the purest waters of the fountains of life and enjoying the bountiful sun rays free from the Earth which has been deceived by centuries of propaganda into believing this GREAT and HEROIC man was evil. God bless him.
Didn't he have the 2 true young heirs to the throne murdered ?After THEY were placed under his protection &trusted into his care?That if true doesnt sound very noble or just.And they were merely young boys.So if true why would he be considered a good king or a righteous person &deserve a place in heaven at all?
@@devilafaewelch4621 Highly contested. Since Parliament declared them ineligible for rule based on lineage, it's an open question who had to gain most by their deaths. Possibly the answer is Margaret Beaufort, Henry VII's mother.
Exceptional work in all the disciplines....Bravo...!!!
I'm so glad they found him 💗
They didn’t. An English woman called Philippa something did. No acknowledgement of her I notice!
Impressive. And what is really mind boggling is, that proving this was Richard III ,could just have happened in a short window of time - not 50 years later. Neither of the living descendants of Richard, needed for the proof, have children. Or, as far as I know- the female descendant a daughter , essential for the mitochondrial DNA. And of course earlier DNA research had not reached the level it has now. Finding Richard - in the first place - would not have happened without the initiative of Philippa Langley and her and John Ashdown Hills passionate work and dedication.
I remember the program shown on PBS (Secrets of the Dead, I think) about finding the King's remains under a car park. How the scientists were able to identify the skeleton from hundreds of years ago.
Makes me stop and think about who or what remains am I walking on? Creepy! And so fascinating.
Tari was very informative & clear & knowlegable and then to hear she is from here in Vancouver Canada.. veryinteresting 👍🫠
Thank you Philippa for your tenacity that gave U.K. a piece of historical truth. I hope one day to visit king's Richard tomb in Leicester.
The biggest surprise to me was that he actually had a skeletal deformity since it was long suspected that was an exaggeration by the Tudors to make him more villainous.
My deceased husband was a direct descendant of George Neville, the one who was the Archbishop of York and President of Oxford University, and sometimes king, and once who had his current king in prison, but allowed him to escape.. His banquet that went for weeks when he was placed into the position of York of Archbishop was the largest in recorded history. King Richard III and his wife of the time were at the banquet. ---Myreen Moore Nicholson
Was there preexisting knowledge with regard to the general whereabouts of the body or was this truly an unintentional, lucky find by construction workers resurfacing or tearing up an old parking lot? Fascinating story.
They had a few possible locations for the burial, that was one of the rough areas. They knew that land was once an important graveyard, and being close to the battle thought it was a strong candidate for the location. So they looked for him knowing there was a slim chance and got lucky.
The area of this parking lot used to be a friary that dated back to the medieval period. Contemporary accounts of the Battle of Bosworth said that his body, after some public abuse, was taken to the friary and buried there. So researches had a pretty good idea that he was likely somewhere under the parking lot, but pinpointing the particular location was a bit of artistry and luck.
Not at all. An untrained woman was obsessed with finding him, followed all the historical references, and located him.
Those shallower wounds could have been solid hits that occurred while Richard was wearing a helmet. Those suits of armour were pretty sophisticated and could take one hell of a pounding.
I honour his brave and valiant fight to the death.
He was a monster and a child killer!
@@alanthomas2064 Read a modern history book ffs, the two princes were seen as illegitimate in the eyes of the government so it would’ve made no sense for Richard to then murder them unless it was to put them on spikes and show he destroyed the illegitimate line. It was most likely the mother of Henry Tudor, who defeated and then succeeded Richard III which ordered the death of the princes. Mainly because the Tudor claim to the throne was strenuous at best and the Tudors historically wiped out any claimants who had better claims than themselves.
@@GuacJuan Richard WAS the government. He betrayed his brother by declaring his brother’s marriage illegal and his children illegitimate. But in those days people could be declared illegitimate one day and be re-legitimised the next. (See John of Gaunt and his complicated descendants). So the boys could still be a threat to Richard’s rule. He killed those he thought would support the boys, dismissed the boys servants and they were never seen again. But Richard under-estimated his sister-in-law, Elizabeth Woodville, and Margaret Beaufort, great grand-daughter of John of Gaunt and mother to Henry Tudor.
He like all royals past and present was a greedy freeloading thug scumbag.
What an impressive video reflecting research of the highest caliber!!!!
6:07. She kind of talks around it, but the injury to the pelvis was from a dagger up the caboose.
Thank you so much, this is good work well presented. Brilliant!
One of the most intriguing stories of the past decade! I hope some day, the mystery of the Two Princes will be solved. How about some DNA research on the remains (claimed to be the Princes) in Westminster Abbey?
Oh God no, a long standing fraud may be revealed. It must be done in total secret then the next course debated.
Madeleine Hague I read some time ago that the Queen would not give permission for those to be dug up.
Bizarrely enough. Why can't they be tested? Their bones are owned by her? If so, how ridiculous.
The Queen is deeply religious and that may be the basis of her decision to avoid disturbance of the bones. She may also think it's too "trivial" a reason to disturb them. She's not into history to that extent. There's also the question of setting a precedent. If you allow the bones of previous monarchs to be disturbed, historians might want to dig more of them up and maybe she thinks her own bones might be disturbed at some future date also. Maybe another monarch in future might give consent.
Very good points!
Thanks, I found the article. In a related article about one of the princes, Edward, it says that two skeletons were found and re-buried in Westminster Abbey, but the identities have not been conclusively proven, and no one really knows what happened to the princes. They could do DNA tests now, if they wanted, but it would require permission from the queen, since nothing can be done with a royal grave or royal remains without royal permission (said the article).
The heir-apparent, uncrowned at death King Edward V was age 12 ... likely not a "small" skeleton, as his father King Edward IV was 6 feet 4 inches tall.
I am obsessed with this!
Obviously Richard was a brave man
burymedeep 2093 yes a brave child killer
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Tbf, to be willing to murder children - your own nephews - does require a certain amount of courage
It would have been nice to acknowledge Philippa Langley who actually located him, despite ridicule from all and sundry.
It’s amazing how they found only one body and that was the King’s remains.
I love that one of the leaders of the dig, upon hearing that the first skeleton they’d found had a curved spine, said, “… I need to sit down.”
Yes, they now have the male Plantagenet DNA, donated by the Beaufort family (who are directly descended in the male line from John of Gaunt). So if permission were given they could try and match this with the bones in the Abbey. But it won't happen. It would be opening a huge can of worms.
Absolutely fascinating.
Brilliant work folks.
I saw the entire documentary on television. It was interesting to see how a person untrained in history or archeology could do what the experts had failed to do, find Richard’s resting place.and Shakespeare had it right all along, he did suffer from a severe curvature of the spine.
I would love to see this document. Do you remeber it 's name ?
It wasnt until he was in his teens that the curvature started. He would also have learned to work through the pain of it.
Often a non untrained person go at research in a different way. The experts often have tunnel vision and dont look around but only straight at without accepting anything else. I am a genealogist and often run into a brick wall so I then have to spread the research out into different searches.
Those teeth are 560 years old and still look better than alot of people i see today.
He had really nice teeth
Can't deny that haha
That's what I thought, he was from ages ago, I assumed they all had bad teeth, his corpse's teeth are better then a lot of people's. 😂
the boar showed his tusks!
It was in the Tudor period that people living in England had access to raw sugar for the first time *correction - slave labour in the Tudor period actually made sugar much more affordable*.You see a massive increase in chronic tooth decay and deaths attributed to rotting teeth in the Tudor Middle class and Nobility (as they now had a massive proportion of sugar in their diets) they actually used to eat more sugar treats in the hopes to stop their bad breath caused by tooth decay from eating so much sugar. I thought it was only a recent issue for humans.
That was what I was thinking
Simply extraordinary
FASCINATING!!🌹🌹
I'LL BET KING RICHARD IS HONORED BY YOUR TREATMENT AND SERVICE YOU HELD FOR HIM..
What is really persuasive are the cuts on the bones.
Where is Phillipa Langley the woman who actually FOUND Richard the third?
No she didn't. While Langley played an indispensable role in making the dig happen, she lacked the expertise to make the discovery. A professional ULAS employee named Matthew Morris rediscovered Richard.
He absorbed a terrible series of blows. I wonder what the sequence of wounds was. A brave warrior.
That's the way it is living in those times by the sword. The fittest remain alive and those lessor die by the sword!!
Très passionnant 😍
Were these the bones that were found about 1-2 yrs ago in an area that wss being dug up for a parking lot. Seems like i read an article about it.
I just find it amazing that these people are actually touching and pulling out teeth of an ancient king
He is not considered ancient. 2 or 3 thousand tears old would be ancient.
To paraphrase Shakespeare's Hamlet, "Alas, poor York!"
Not to mention the big letter R painted over the spot.
Oooommmm... Oh Richard is talking to me, the premonition is strong... he is directing me toward the grave...
+Sandra Boyer A big letter R painted over the spot in 1485, which lasted 530 years ... without attracting anyone's notice? Curiousest.
+Silicondos His kingdom for a nosegay to snuff out the modern petrol odor !
Sandra Boyer the letter “R” in the car park stood to marked a reserved spot. That was a coincidence but I don’t believe in coincidences.
She states that you grind up the powder and put it into a tube, and while you are doing this you also place two (2) blank tubes, either side and back. And then she says that what you are hoping for is to find DNA in the tube, and not in the two blanks. And then she says that is exactly what happened, as the blanks were empty and the only DNA we had came from the tube. It seems rather intuitive that one would only get DNA from the tube where you put the powdered bone, and not from the blank tubes. And one can also add that when centrifuging samples, controls and counterweighting tubes are added. It seems that her explanation of this is rather redundant.
It's a cross-check to ensure lack of contamination in the process. I would have thought this was obvious.
Im in the US and having problems finding the episode to watch over here. Do you have any ideas where I can watch this at?
Same with me and our public library is closed due to covid . I would really like to tead more about this.
That's interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for your thoughtful reply.
So exciting!
Which wikipedia article contains this information? I'll go and read it. Thanks.
so....there appears to be a new fracture of the skull above the left eye at or between the frontal and parietal. especially as they don't mention it as an injury to the skull at or before death. my first thought was that someone (digging) messed up a bit.....just a guess. hope I'm wrong. if so wouldn't you hate to be the person that put a trowel thru Richard III's skull? but accidents do happen.
thanks for your reply. two skeletons were found. it's in wikipedia and here is part of it, "In 1674, some workmen remodelling the Tower of London dug up a wooden box containing two small human skeletons"
Thanks. It's all quite fascinating.
He had very healthy teeth!
This is so amazing.
The first archeologist is being totally disingenuous. It was the lady from the Richard III society who identified the burial location.
The archeologist didn't believe her, and dismissed her.
Watch the TV documentary. It is absolutely fascinating.
The archeologist was patronising and arrogant until she was proved wrong.
Totally wrong. Everyone knew he was buried in Greyfriars and where that was in modern day Leicester. The society lady raised the money and got people interested. There was never any secret that he was possibly in that area, just the odds of him being under the buildings or mashed by other works over the centuries meant it wasn't considered worthwhile looking
You need to watch it again as you have your facts very mixed up.
What is the nsme of the documentary
Yes
Amazing !
Fascinating!
I'm not disagreeing with anybody or anything, all i was saying is that it's really nice something interesting has happened here, that's all.
Amazing
So we can confirm then that he really did have a hunched back and a slender figure. Interesting.
Richard should never be buried here he should have gone to York he was our true last English King
The lady who identified the spot where his skeleton might be was scoffed at...the tweed jackets don’t always know it all folks.
She didn't identify any spot. Everyone knew that the old church was where he probably was, unless he'd been moved afterwards, and that he was probably under the choir. But most of the site was built over and it was considered highly unlikely they'd find him...Philippa persuaded them that enough was there to be worthwhile digging and they just got ridiculously lucky. She was scoffed at for many reasons, but not for thinking he was there somewhere...that was generally agreed
How they found Michael?
People saying Richard died a honest death yet he was the one Incharged of the boys in the tower who mysteriously disappeared.
Wonderful!
Now, if only we could find DB Cooper.... 😉
Oh! And Jimmy Hoffa!
Saw this comment after watching *killing Jimmy Hoffa*
You never know, they still could be found, doubtful but you never know.
SO INTERESTING!
Who else was shuddering while she was messing with the tooth?
I am related to this King!
Ok thank you :) I will do that! I appreciate that information!!
I'm here because 23andMe says that in my maternal haplogroup, I share a common ancestor with King Richard III
Thanks to Philippa Langley!
Whose idea was it to start the dig in the first case?
Awesome...!
Your comments are too stark. I worked with a cardiac consultant at the Royal Free in London many years ago who had scoliosis. During morning ward rounds he was upright and bright. Toward the end of the day he was tipping over to his left and breathless. I imagine Richard 111 was much the same.
+ted carter Indeed, most people start each day a little taller than they will be after a day of gravity pull.
I have severe scolliosis and thrpugh the years it has gotten bad enough to the point that i could not sit for long periods of time could not stand for long periods of time and gradually started walking leaning to the right side and constantly out of breath. It caused some other physical health that has forced me to get disability. It is not a fun yhing to have.
Interesting. I did get to the Tower in my trip to England.
I am not sure if he was responsible for “if murdered Princess”.
Finally! Something to make me proud of living in Leicester!
Interesting video. I am glad he didn’t end up in the river after all.
Absolutely
Richard the III rd in Shakespeare's drama is a fascinating character. I love this villain.
an interprative view by Shakespheare, certainly.
That love would NOT have been reciprocated.
The University of Leicester should give express credit to Phillipa who researched the location of the late King. This is only academic etiquette and is shabby if not done.