The 5 BEST Chaos Dwarf Units! - Warhammer 3
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- My choices for the top 5 units in the Chaos Dwarfs army, coming with the Forge of the Chaos Dwarfs DLC for Total War: Warhammer 3!
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That's a weird way to spell Orc Labourers
Hey, Okoii! Did this video gave you some nice ideas? Like you know... "19 Dreadquake Mortars" for example *wink* *wink*
Edit: 1 week later and indeed you did. You never fail us.
@@Indolthir I did that one, 17 mortars pulled by iron deamons, lord and spellcasters of fire and Hashut. Absolutely deeeesgusting. Neither infantry nor cav did even get anywhere and any big units got basically vaporized as soon as they got into iron dreamon range.
I see that the blunderbusses appear to have a reload animation, maybe they will bring that back for other gunpowder units and crossbows? It's awesome that Chorfs have clearly had a ton of work put into them!
@@Grima-From-Putinistan We shouldn't need a mod for something so simple, that's the issue
@@snakeoo7ca Yeah well there's a lot of stuff missing in the game anyways that you can only fix with mods because CA doesn't get to them. Like inactive traits.
@@snakeoo7ca demagogy. Steam Workshop has been created for moments like this,when creators forget\dont give a shit to create animations)()()()()()(
@@snakeoo7ca Then please feel free to spend the time yourself to make those "simple" parts of the game. Wanting them in is fine, but acting like the arbiter of what is or isn't simple in game development is dumb. Stick to back seat gaming streamers instead of being a back seat game dev.
@@hollow8136 a bit agro but fair
Fun fact: the Ironsworn are the Chorf equivalent to Slayers, and there helmets are melded onto there faces, the twist is that they can redeem themselves unlike Slayers and have the helmet removed recealing a very scared face, but there now seen as honored members of Chorf society.
All in all, maybe Hashut isnt that bad lmao (besides the whole slavery and demonic engineering thing)
hashut is a great dude, man and slavery is awesome.. cant wait to play some chorfs, babeh! :D
what slavery man ?? they are obviously paid labourers . hashut and chorfs brought us a new age of industrialization. STOP SPREADING LIES
@@JamesBond-ux1it real gamer moment
Every chaos god has an upside, Hashut has the quirk of being extremely goddamn racist which means that upside is maginified for his chosen people.
GREAT if you're a Chorf and BAD if you're anyone else
What do you mean "besides"...thats what makes them the best
So, from what I've seen, the dread quake mortor is a mini doom rocket, being it can delete whole blobs of infantry.
That's it. In lore it's the mightiest classic artillery in entire universe, more power than even queen bess, middenheim big cannons and all other stuff. They named dreakquake because, u know... Earth quakes after each shot))
The shots made of very secretly-secret shit like demons souls, thirdy-cursed black powder and other things. Shell made by glass, of course magic glass. Have a detonation trigger like in real mortars (real innovation for medieval world) and, most interesting, shooting power is not powder gases, but steam. So it's on f0king train and reloading my muscle power of ogre slave lol))
It might do the highest damage out of all artillery in the game but it’s also got the worst accuracy.
@Count Plokoon the doom rocket, doesn't have what I would call the best accuracy, but it is still way fun to use.
@@countplokoon Not a terribly big deal since even nearby shots can shred almost a 1/4 of a units health and it leaves behind a slowing mortis effect for a few seconds that has a decent AoE range.
@@countplokoon that's why you just use several of them and send off a whole volley of bullshit for the enemy to deal with
The Chaos Dwarf blasting charge explosions look kind of like the shots from the Apocalypse Atomic Tank from Red Alert 2.
The Instrument of DOOM...
@@vladislavivanov2334 It will soon be a wasteland...
Die Waffen, legt an!!
The blunderbusses kind of remind me of the shimazu heavy gunners from shogun two
They remind me of donderbuss cav from shogun 2. Although i would argue that donderbuss damage output is even crazier.
you mean shimazu heavy gunners?
@@kyrnti1075 I swear I thought they were called satsuma. Fixed after looking it up.
@@NP3GA lol no worries
blunderbusses are probably the best value unit in the entire game. Just having 1 of them in my garrison means I don't really have to worry about defending. They are so damn strong that I've yet to have a unit of blunderbusses run out of ammo because everything dies before they even reach halfway point
Interesting contrast to what the pvp streamers have been saying. Apparently dreadquakes are awful against human opponents, but the opponents have to essentially build around magma cannons because they decimate all infantry units. Blunderbusses also seem more like a campaign thing, short range missile units are tricky to use against humans assuming it's not skaven globadiers that deal most of the damage through the contact effect.
it rlly is crazy how different multiplayer and campaign videos are. So many differences in game style
@Malignard I'd argue that globadiers are different because they do a lot more damage on a single volley compared to most other ranged units because of the contact effect. And they can fire in arc unlike say Cathay's blunderbuss unit.
I would say the unit from 5-3 still hold that position in multiplayer. They are very effective at what they are meant for.
dreadquakes aren't "awful against humans", they are just obviously a big slow mortar round that is easily dodgeable in some situations. But in other situations they will wreck face and not every human has spare APM to spend dodging your mortar rounds.
Blunderbusses are a bit weak in Land Battles, but they're MVP in domination in the reserve army.
That's it, this video is the drop that filled the cup, gobos need to form a union. Their lives matter too.
A kommittee maybe
Funny man likes jokes
Blasting charges waste much of their potential if thrown at a charging infantry unit.
"Supporting" a front line of hobgoblins that bunch the AI infantry up gives you optimal performance.
Hobgoblins are plentiful, blasting charges finite.
I was expecting Fireglaives here if I'm honest! Very much looking forward to trying these out myself.
From my brief experience with them, they don’t do nearly as much raw damage. However, they seem to be more accurate than most handgunners, and are pretty competent in melee.
Blunderbusses outdo them for damage output, but Fireglaives will hold up way better without support because of their solid melee + anti large. Against AI, they're kind of irrelevant, but against players, I can see a much bigger case for Fireglaives taking up at least some of the same role to handle being counterattacked better.
As a Vampirate enthusiast those blobby Dreadquake shots are looking downright pornographic. I can't wait to have an army running around with 4 of em
every time dreadquake shot lands into a blob its better than sex
The community: oh the destroyer has to be here
Zerk: C O W
i mean, the bull is cute
Hey Zerkovich, Enjoyed the work you put into the video as usual. Did you even think about continuing your "Tactics of...." videos? You started with Karl Franz and then IE dropped. Im a TWWH veteran but i actually really enjoyed watching that video and was actually looking forward to more in the series although i understand it would be a mammoth task doing all 80+ lords. I just thought for new comers and old it was a very detailed and useful video which went a long way in terms of learning the game from a battlefield perspective.
The Blunderbuses remind me of ow they worked in Call to Warhammer mod for Medieval 2: great for mincing the enemy.
Reminded me of that as well! I think the devs probably gave them a good look see!
Every time I hear about best Cav, I wait for the Grail Knight buffs to make them the best anti large cav without question... One day
your whole life questing for a sip that will make you at best mediocre.
@@MusMasi Good, Bretonnian lore is absolutely packed with the boring trope of "this young guy just got the sip and will now kill the bad guy of the story". I loathe it.
Tbf, vampirism seems to make you at least as powerful. So I wouldn't be disappointed if the Blood Knights remained above Grail Knights.
AFAIK grail knights got some buffs in 3.0, check the patch notes!
Ok there is one weakness of armor piercing blasting charges I dont see talked about much, You cant throw it at your own troops.... Somthing I did in a dwarf game was my ironbreakers were covered in greenskins so I had a second unit of ironbreakers clean them off using blasting charges and they took like no damage because of their armor.... I dont think the same strat would work as clean wiht chorfs
Just replace the ironbreaker with goblins. Or a small lord. Will still work a treat.
@@jrgenaarvik7671that's what I was about to say. The Chaos Dwarfs roasters have cheap meatsheilds, flying monsters and cavalry options and that diversity gives them a serious edge over their non chaos cousins.
im already imagining okoii making a dreadquake stack video xD
th-cam.com/video/Ajx4-k1XqR0/w-d-xo.html
Literally right as you posted this
Please stop I can only get so hyped.
No… BALE TAURUS STACK
Honestly I'm glad to see the dreadquake make the list. I sort of figured they would be deemed too cost inefficient.
Magma Cannon deserves a place in this list.. at least until it get nerfed (inevitably)
Yeah, before CA inevitably ruins the unit.
Each time i see a video about the Chorfs, i become even more convinced that the regular Dwarfs (and the Order Tide in general) need a substantial upgrade
I’m so ready for an empire update
@@gabrielchovan-spence4215 We all are, brother.
...aaaaaand while we are at it, maybe Kislev could use some updates given how it get steamrolled by Archaon each playthrough
Something I rarely see get mentioned about the Chaos Dwarf flying units (like Bale Taurus) is just how damn hard it is for missile and artillery to actually hit them. Their hitbox is tiny and they have such erratic animations (both flying, and in combat) that 90% of missiles just seem to miss them completely, and those that do actually hit have their damage reduced by the 25% missile resistance. Which is really powerful, considering that missile-spam is the typical hard counter to large, flying single entities.
Their major weakness seems to be that their defense stats (melee defense, armour and HP) pretty mediocre, and they can get easily bogged down by infantry blobs - infantry with good melee attack and anti-large can delete their health pretty quickly. Even then, because of the Blazing Body ability, any unit stuck in melee will take some damage in return. But they're still pretty amazing for tying down the enemy back line in a missile-heavy army while your slower units have a chance to catch up.
Thank you for another great video
Very nice Zerk!
Lol that lone goblin running for his life at 1:30
Bull Centaur Renders 10000% getting nerfed, there is no way they should be able to hang in there with Crushers With Great Weapons.
2:00 It seems to me that minotaurs should run in fear at the sight of this bull-like monster.
what do you think about the hobgobs? In my campaigns they tend do deal absolute nasty dmg for their cost sometimes even exceeding my blunderbusses in dmg done and value destroyed
That’s one shady looking Goblin in the thumbnail 😂
bring back the 100 second videos!! loved that series
I’ve had the most fun in a long time playing as the chorfs!
What are people saying now that the Chorfs have come out and have everything people said would make Dwarves too over powered?
Clearly the Gobbo laborers are the strongest 💪
You know the chaos dwarf is OP when the infernal iron swarn starts starts at the bottom of the top 5 list😂😂
What is up with the sound effects on the gunpower weapons? The Dreadquake Mortar's explosion sounds like Dio stopping time rather than an actual explosion and it's like the Blunderbusses are silenced. It stands out compared to stuff like Queen Bess or literally any other Musket unit we already have in the game which sound completely fine.
7:32 SHORT!?
Dread quake doom stacks are coming, I can sense it
I have to agree about the blunderbuss' raw power, they deserve that top spot.
55:15 I didn't know dread quakw morters caused a ground trimmer effect!?!
The chaos dwarves feel like the regular dwarves on steroids mixed with freakin cocaine
That's chaos anything tbh
anyone got problems with control keys in warhammer 3? manually controlling artillery by holding alt does not work, targeting ground etc.
Laserglavies though can shoot and stand their ground in melee though! Coupled with a mod that has them fire thrice (which is lore-friendly), and they’re a Doomstack! But yeah, the shotgunners are good too. Just wish they could be better at not dying in melee.
First DL =O looking forward!
Practical question: for the artillery units like the dreadquake mortar, to get an iron daemon to pull it, does it take up an extra army slot? Do you need a separate iron daemon to sorta "fuse" with the mortar to turn 2 units into 1 or is it like a mount and the mortar + daemon combo takes up only 1 slot?
You can’t currently combine an iron demon with an artillery piece - it’s unique to Dreadquakes and they are a single unit you get at the last tier of artillery building
It's not friendly fire if you are firing at gobbos
The magma cannon leaving fire on the ground makes it a huge winner in my book, it abuses a particular quirk of infantry. Namely, when a normal cannon punches a hole through an infantry unit, the remaining infantry collapse into the hole to reform ranks. The magma cannon leaves fire on the ground... and infantry will throw themselves in it and die trying to reform ranks.
SHORT!?
im so hyped for them, the first dlc that i preorderd. i wanted to see as least as possible from them but i couldntz pass on this video
Is it only me but the tourose lookes so wierd. When i get the dlc, i don't know if i'm gonna use it so often
still think blunderbusses having shields AND ap attacks AND charge def large is kinda nutto tbh
Chaos Dwarfs just pushed Vampirates from the stairs in my eyes. Dedicated "gunpowder" faction my a**. DQ mortar seems to do more then Queen Bess, do it on the move, do it in numbers and do it accurately. And no 3rd tier artillery if I remember correctly (Collosus is a monster). I hope they'll get some lovin in near future.
@Malignard I like me some copium and hopium so I disagree. Right now vampirates are fine-ish in compasrsion. There are factions that require rework/dlc far more (Lizards, Counts, Empire, Dwarfs, Norsca) but, furthering my analogy, after those factions will receive their buffs they will send pirates tumbling down the stairs even more. And if those reworks will be on par of Beastmen's pirates will stick out too much with their lackluster mechanics.
There is a vid from Great Book of Grudges on the topic of dlv for pirates. Mostly about Varngheist as possible LL (he would most likely come with some units and small rework)
They are in a pretty good spot rn.
I the hands of the player they will be unstoppable in the hands of the A.I the will spam laborers
I expected magma cannon to appear on this list.
It 100% should have in every battle I have done they outperform the dreadquake morter by a reasonable margin. Not to mention so cheap.
Amazing thumbnail 😂
What's the biggest difference between iron hail gunners and blunderbusses? i've been using iron hail gunners and they've been performing pretty much the same lol
Blunderbusses are dwarves. Meaning if you get attacked by hounds, the hounds will route before you take casualties, while iron hails will spontaneously combust if it gets within 200 feet of a single skavenslave.
Also dwaves are short, so it's much easier to hit targets they are fighting from the backline. Also, this may or may not be true, but they don't seem to care for friendly fire, so they will always be shooting without obstruction. Even if that means your frontline tanks half the shots.
How are you even playing it. Why does it seem like everyone but me can play it early. I already pre ordered it as well.
love chorfs!
Great to see Chaos Dwarfs being so powerful here. It just shows how strong industry and magic are when combined together.
I'm so happy the dreadquake is good. would've been a major let down if such an iconic unit was trash
7:21 Jeesh, gotta find new pants now 😳
God, I so hope that GW will give us Chaos Dwarves for Warhammer the Old World and AoS.
Never made sense that they dropped them. I remember them being incredibly popular last time they had metal minis
Ikr
Not putting the magma cannon here is kinda ridiculous considering that for a far cheaper price you can achieve similar results to a Dreadquake.
FoR tHe AlGoRiThM
Blunderbusses? Those things feel like railguns.
So I got a new PC and Total Warhammer 3 wont install on steam, it keeps verifying the files for the update and failing saying update is corrupt. I have done DOZENS of things to try and fix this. Anyone ever had this on steam?
I have had updates that fail to download, but that is always fixed by reinstalling the game.
I imagine you've likely tried most of these but here's a shortlist of solutions I've run into over the years
1. Uninstall and reinstall the game. You have no doubt already tried this
2. After uninstalling the game, go hunting around in your install and C: save folders and see if anything got left behind
3. Reinstall steam itself
4. Make sure your drivers are up to date, and try uninstalling and reinstalling the relevant ones. (Doubt this has anything to do with it but drivers are funny)
5. Restart your computer. Not shut down and turn back on, an actual restart from the menu. There is a difference.
6. Check your internet connection, see if it jumps a lot or find an online tester for packet loss. Game is large and if your connection is super unstable it might be losing too much.
All pretty baseline stuff but maybe one slipped by you, hope this helps.
@@NuclearNacho13 Done all 6 and more :(
Wait the Chaos dwarfs are still not out? I've been seeing content for weeks at this point.
Content creators get early access
Content creators get the d$#@ sucking treatment
4 weeks of prerelease teases for a campaign pack instead of the usual 2 weeks for a lord pack
Love how Chorf blunderbusses have reloading animations. But fucking Empire handgunners don’t 😂😂😂
Blunderbuss barely belong in top 5 let alone number one, you dropped the ball on this one Zerk
Femir warriors kinda chunk bull centaurs
why do the building icons not progress CA??? its ridiculous we have to download a mod (an excellent mod though better then anything CA does) but its a matter of principle!
The earthquake morters, imo, are the best artillery in the game. I remember using Queen Bess and thinking "Just imagine if I had more of these!" well now you can. These fuckers are absurd.
I've honestly seen way more mileage on rocket pod style arty. Grand Cathay's Fire Rain Rocket Battery and the lesser Imperial's Helstorm Rocket Battery. Along with the area covered the shear scaling with multiple favors the rockets way more. As much as the quake destroys an circle area, the rockets can cover similar if less uniform damage to a much wider area. The lack of armour piercing on any of them also favors the rockets due to the sheer quantity of damage sources, obviously scaling with increased unit number. For unit cost value, dreadquake wins hand over fist, for actual in combat usage and damage over it's lifetime, any rocket arty beats it into the ground with a flaccid stick. So, with any half capable player, dreadquake is rather soft. A group of 3 of these guys destroys a very specific medium circle every once in a while, a comparative group of, say; Cathay's rocket pods would have blanketed the entire army in withering fire in similar time, probably even routing a good portion before forces even meet.
The NAAGP will have a field day with this video.
Why not fire glaives instead of blunder buss?
the whole faction looks OP
Most of the MP casters would disagree
@@silverhost9782 right, statistics tells a different story, enough chorf losses out there...
Agree!
best units for singleplayer right? if not the mortar is not that good in multiplayer
bull centaur renderers dual axes have +18 bonus vs infantry, so no, great weapons are nowhere near them in effectiveness vs infantry. +18 bonus vs infantry is huge, making their total melee attack difference vs infantry 20 entire points. massive difference. realistically chorfs have lots of anti infantry options between blasting charges and artillery, but still, claiming that renderers with great weapons are "about the same" as the other variants vs infantry is massively wrong.
honestly, who didn't expect the chaos dorfs to have some dumbo broken op units
Woooo
7:30 SHORT?! SHORT!?
Will there also be a „5 worst chaos dwarfs units“-Video an will it feature the destroyer? 😉
The desyrpyer needs forward facing horns.
Will be interessting to compare these with the live version. I suspect some of it will be nerfed
I hope not. its not needed the only thing that really needs tuning is old iron hand other then that the statics show they are pretty well balanced.
@@ogretyrant8531 this!...
@@ogretyrant8531 how is deleting supposedly tanky single entities within 5 seconds with minimal investment balanced ?
@@Attondel actually all the chaos dwarf units are super expensive you can only field so many of them and they are supposed to be strong and it’s balanced becuse of cost and becuse if you know what your doing you can still easy win chaos dwarfs have a low win rate even with sweaty players playing them and when the chaos dwarfs get these strong units they normally have to sacrifice something else and field weaker chaff.
@@ogretyrant8531 Bullcentaurs among other things looks way way overtuned though especially with the Hellforge I think they will receive a significant nerf in stats and/or upgrades and probably magma canon and dreadquake mortar too. That artillery looks comparable to magic which would basically make them auto casting mages thats not reliant on winds. The centaurs when upgraded looks like they are unbeatable even against anti large. Extremly tanky, perfect vigour, regen and massive damage. It remains to be seen if they really are as broken as the content on youtube suggests but the way things look right now is just ridiculous and wont be fun for more than a few battles it would be detrimental to the game.
Dreadquake over magma cannon ?!
Magmacannon?
No magma cannon!?
I just had 50k damage each with 2 units of blunderbusses on turn 6 against some green skins, absolutely disgusting
will there be fun left, when they realese OP Overdwarves?
short... SHORT!?
SHORT?!
SHORT?!?!?!?
The chaos dwarf army is from 1915
Anyone else think the Bale Taurus looks kind of bad? It looks like a mod.
i love how people say they are not op best inf best Monster cav and like the best arty from what i can see
Bussies win again
I wish that you had said 5 best units for campaign not on the roster, because not having the magma canon on here at all just invalidates the list. Its literally the best unit on the roster in MP.
It does unholy damage to infantry, like taking off 1/3-1/2 hp per shot, wrecks crewed artillery by outranging almost everything so gets 2-3 shots in before you can respond and again killing the inf crews stupidly quick and you get all of this for just 900 gold. No one can bring decent infantry against CD because its so oppresive.
Chorfs are very, very fun. However, their economy system, while a great concept, is kinda ruining them for me rn
Does this DLC help with some Total war fatique?
Play older Titles like Shogun 2.
Worked for me.
Ford Taurus😂
They should give dwarfs goat cavalry
might have called this list "5 OP units chaos dwarfs have" seriously some of these are incredibly OP
Hey Zerkovich, a reccomendation I thought you may find interesting is "Duke's Damned Nations." It is an overhaul mod that shifts the balance of the game around "realism in fantasy."
You have always struck as someone who enjoys the more realism oriented tactics and this mod does a good job of displacing the "rock paper scissors" orientation of normal Total war Warhammer, with a more tactical resource management balance.
It is balanced around multiplayer, so I thought I should at least spread the word as something you might find interesting.
Predicting it now, Magma cannons are gonna be #1 followed by infernal ironsworn followed by bull centaurs
Edit: Oh, Zerkovich, my poor, innocent naïf. You have not experienced the complete and utter feeling of disbelief as a magma cannon half-healths a unit of dwarven hammerers in a single shot from 480 range, winning the infantry fight by itself.
You got Bull centaurs right
I feel like Zerkovich goes a lot into reliability and utility above high damage. We see this in him putting the Bale Taurus over the K'daai Destroyer on these grounds, as the Bale Taurus has much more maneouverability, and is therefore more able to be where the action needs it to be.
The Magma canon has huge destructive potential, but how often will it score a hit like that? It's also a much more expensive unit.
The Blunderbusses are much cheaper, and presumably deliver on their potential much more consistently. They're easier to maneouver, and to put into positions were every single one of their shot, and therefire every little bit of their damage potential, is delivered.
@@Papadragon18 I agree with most of what you said. However, the accuracy on the magma cannons is CRAZY. I have yet to see one miss more than 2 or 3 times in a video. The existence of a magma cannon basically removes your ability to bring elite infantry, which is, how you say, BROKEN AF. It may be more expensive than blunderbusses, (Which are probably my number 3, higher than bull centaurs and lower than ironsworn), but its ability to completely change the game before the battle has even started is wack.
@@Papadragon18 "Hmm today I will play my favorite faction, the greenskins. I will bring a few units of black orcs as they are one of my core uni- "BONK magma cannon shot rails them in the face, leaving behind a miniature pit of shades, halving it instantly
@@gigabirb Fair point, funnily made. :)