What a coincidence, I am from Zagreb and I just played my class your Sheriff documentary yesterday since we were learning about unrecognised countries in geography. Finally some representation on this channel as well :)
Holy shit this is such quality content Alf, you even managed to get the non related fiascos such as Tomislav Horvatinčić and Milan Bandič. Living in Zagreb my whole life I can tell you nailed the facts and stories of our clowns
Great vid Alfie! As a Slovenian with a Croatian father, I really appreciate the effort you put into your pronunciations, and to help you getting even better at it, here's a tip, in slavic languages, the J is pronounced like an english Y (like in yellow), that should smooth out the most common problem english speakers have with pronouncing slavic words (like Dejan Lovren, imagine the name being written as Deyan). Looking forward to more from you, thanks for all the research and effort you put into your content!
Still hoping for a "What on Earth is Going on at Sunderland?" Or maybe a "Fall and Fall of Sunderland" Sunderland til I die showed our relegation to league one and failed attempt to get promoted back to the Championship, but a detailed look at the Premier League years before our relegation would be great, also looking at how things went after STID. The amount of bad luck and awful decisions and from board level down to the pitch is staggering. In the Ellis Short era, and then the Stewart Donald era. -England losing against Iceland essentially resulting in us losing Allardyce, a great manager for us at the time, only for him to be sacked by England after 1 game. -At one point having the 6th highest wage bill in the Premier League with nothing really to show for it. -The purchase of Ricky Alvarez, not playing him, trying to back out of signing him, losing a lawsuit to Inter Milan and still suffering financial implications to this day. -Signing the appalling Jack Rodwell and being financially crippled for years again -Signing a completely past it Emmanuel Eboue who was then released 3 weeks later as he was banned from football for unpaid agent debts -Playing Adam Johnson when the execs knew he was under investigation for sexual activity with a child. -Well known drinking culture among players, general poor professionalism. -Darron Gibson getting arrested for drink driving after a car crash. Gibson also filmed on social media off his tits bad mouthing the team and manager whilst still a player. -Letting our top scorer leave in January in our Championship relegation season -Selling our top scorer in January in our first League 1 promotion push -Replacing him with Will Grigg for 3 million quid on a league 1 budget because our owner at the time wanted to be a big shot. Grigg was a failure since and never even wanted to come. -Losing twice at Wembley in League 1 including in the playoff final in the 95th minute. -Missing out on the playoffs after the season was cancelled due to COVID -Losing again in the playoffs last season -Losing last season's top scorer with 30 goals (Wyke) and our Captain (Power) to Wigan for free in the summer. We've made a solid start to this season and made some decent signings under our new owner, but the whole story of the last 10 years is an absolute car crash worth a deep dive.
Absolutely correct and precise overview, one thing though that could be more pointed out is that Mamic had and still have an opposition in a majority of the fans and those fans are going through hell just for being against him and its been going on like that for years. That, together with the state of the stadium is the main reason why Dinamos home games have such low attendance.
I feel sorry for football fans in Croatia (and really the rest of Eastern Europe) for having to put up with all the corruption in the game. Football in Western Europe obviously isn't squeaky clean, but the problem seems much more extensive and blatant on the eastern side of the continent.
As a guy who has a tradition cheering for Dinamo since they were established, only problem are the Mamić brothers, yes they were great scouts and creation of Modrić, Mandžukić etc. is great, but they stole so much money from the club, that is the only problem which is gone. Now they need to pay back the debt.
@@syauqirashadSR Have you watched the video? Alfie referred to them as manager and director. He didn't refer to them as owner. Why? Because they never owned Dinamo Zagreb, no one can. It is legally a nonprofit organisation that doesn't issue shares and is owned by its members. Not these two gangsters.
Brilliant vid Alfie, cheers and greetings from Zagreb! Also, should mention that Horvatincic actually has recently started serving his sentence - but with so many provisions that he may as well still be free 🙄
I looked up that Horvatincic story and he sounds like an awful person. He wanted the families of the two people he killed to pay for the damage done to his boat when he hit their sailboat.
Wasn't Obilić like the strongest side in the Serbian league when Ceca was the owner and then went into a complete debacle when she was arrested due to malversations?
As an avid Dinamo Zagreb supporter and Zdravko Mamić hater I have to say you have made fantastic video and even better analysis of the club and Mamić brothers! Very very well researched, accurate and objective facts given. You have outdone yourself, this is your best video yet. Fun fact: you have mentioned Tomislav Horvatinčić in the video, as the man who killed several people either by car or boat. He is former director at Dinamo and was charged for money laundering and tax evasion while working at the club. But of course, charges were dropped in 2012. Him and Zdravko Mamić are also very good friends. Overall this is movie material right here! And a reason for constant headache among Dinamo supporters.
While Dinamo is without a doubt the best club in Croatia it isn’t the most supported. Hnk Hajduk Split is the most supported club in the country, you can check average attendances from any era of croatian football history and see how big the gap is between Hajduk’s home and away support compared not just to Dinamo but to the rest of the league. Even without stadium attendance, Hajduk is supported throughout the whole region of Dalmatia and even parts of Slavonia while Dinamo’s support is mostly based in the capital of Zagreb. I’m not shitting on Dinamo but saying that they’re the most supported club in the country is just an assumption based upon the fact that they’ve been dominating the league for the last 15 years.
Great video. I m from Zagreb a Dinamo supporter since before I could remember. Pretty much 95 precent is spot on. Probably the best video on anything Croatian I have ever seen. Really great work your research is amazing.
Here is some latest news about this story. Zdravko Mamic is still in Bosnia and said he corrupted the judges who sentenced him to 6 years. He posted pictures and conversations where they can be seen celebrating and having fun together. He said he paid them all. Those judges are now in pre-trial detention, and the one who admitted to bribing them is still free in Bosnia. An even more bizarre situation in this story.
Latvian Football could be an interesting topic to do a video like this on, since 2 of the clubs in the top flight cannot play or have been banned. Ventspil have been banned for 7 years from football for match fixing and Noah were banned from registering new players due to unpaid fees and no longer have 11 players to field, so they have forfeited every game but 1 this season. I don't know everything because I don't really follow Latvian Football, but I would love more information on topic, because it seems juicy
And today former Latvian national team player and director of one of Top flight clubs has been banned for 10 years by UEFA. Not to mention killing of one of football agents early this year.
Love these videos. What On earth is going on at Saint-Etienne? The fans had a banner saying the chairman must leave tomorrow and now have gotten their match delayed tonight
I think the banner was directed against manager Claude Puel not the chairman. I also think Alfie could do a whole video on fan misbehavior in Ligue 1 this season. Groups of rival supporters fighting have delayed multiple games and it seems there's an issue with fans throwing things at players every weekend. Nice fans actually came onto the field to attack Marseille's players after Dmitri Payet threw a bottle back into the crowd. It sure looks like some French fans have lost their damn minds.
@@BiggieTrismegistus interesting can’t really find any info on it as it’s all in french. But yea that would be great there’s been so many incidents and it’s only the start of the season.
Hope he does a video on it , up untill this season (probably) the big dog of french football...after this season PSG overtakes them while they are relegating to League 2 probably sadly
@@AdamCanavan12 I don't know where you're from but I'm an American. The US is violent place with too many damned guns but one thing we don't have is the kind of sports-related violence I see in Europe. You'd almost never see a group of American fans go out onto the field and try to attack players like those Nice supporters did for example and the kind of hooliganism that used to exist in England and elsewhere would simply be unthinkable here. I've always wondered why the fan cultures are so different from one side of the Atlantic to the other.
@@BiggieTrismegistus dunno, every time the Broncos won the Super Bowl Denver ended up being a mess the next day. As for fan culture, the franchise system of US sports mean that very few teams have a rooted support in a location (eg the NY Yankees) and even less with an already established rival (eg NY Mets). As any Dodgers or Nets or Bobcats fan will tell you, there are plenty of fans who have no club thanks to franchises moving and closing. Hence there are few ties to large fanbases compared to European football since the clubs are mostly transient. On a NBA,NHL,MLB etc level there are pretty much no organized hooligan groups based on clubs. Who would they fight? In the USA a sports team is normally something people like to support and watch but not embody. In Croatia teams can have associations with the military, far-right groups, crooked politicians, the mafia and the devil Himself. I don't think Americans would pick up rifles in support of the LA Lakers or the Detroit Red Wings because sports is supposed to entertain in the USA, it's been largely divorced from politics. A literal game.
Hats down to this channel for being very good at presenting clubs and football histories form other lesser known parts of Europe and not just the top 5 leagues.
Excellent video. I would like to point out that although Mamic is undoubtedly corrupt, he is one of many of the peas in the same pod. I’m Croatian, and although I am supportive of the fact that we gained independence, it left a massive opportunity for corruption via crony capitalism. The country stinks of it, and football is no different. Dinamo is the most infamous case, because the Mamic brothers were/are at the top of the pile, but almost all football clubs are run by guys cut from the same cloth, proclaiming they don’t want corruption, yet would commit such acts if they had the power to. One story in particular would be NK Zadar president holding a gun to Subasic’s head forcing him to sign a contract extension to ensure he wouldn’t leave the club for free, just as an example. Thank you for the content, this is the first video I’ve watched of yours and will be taking a deep dive into your channel regardless of what club/country your videos are centred around 👍🏻
Great video! Dinamo is definitely one of the most corrupt football clubs in the world. Hopefully there will be considerable change soon but I highly doubt it
@Nutty I think its different because 1. Bayern is still majority fan owned, and 2. neither club has the same dominance and control over their countries football and youth systems that Dinamo has. Additionally, Dinamo has money too, but the fans don't see any of it. While Man U and Bayern still complete big money moves for players like Sancho. Dinamo can't even renovate their own stadium properly.
@Nutty they had the money to improve the stadium and the cities approval to do so. It has nothing to do with the cities funds. they are a private entity with their own money to expand and renovate their stadium which they did not do because the money most likely went to someone's pockets. And regardless, I don't know what your argument is. We shouldn't pay attention to Dinamo because other clubs have the same problem? Just because others are doing the same thing doesnt mean the topic shouldn't be covered.
@Nutty I never said this only happens in the balkans. I just know as a balkan myself that the region is one of the most corrupt. And yeah they need approval from the city, but they received that approval already. They had plans for a much larger project, it just never reached its potential because of corruption.
@Nutty I have also been around the world, and yea there's corruption everywhere, that goes without saying. If you have money you have power in 90% of the world. There's no need to compare. I'm not saying the Balkans are the most corrupt. But one of the most corrupt, you cant deny that, this video proves that. Corruption is always more present and influential in smaller, poorer countries. Also, Zagreb have also been accused of match fixing so
Do red star belgrade next, they are also a very corrupt club and i am sure you will find some pretty intresting information especially about Zvezdan Terzic
hitcsevens love your work especially the fact that you covered the entire world and not just top league can you please do TP Mazembe 2010 World Cup please I’m sure people would love that story
Can you make a video on if you think a 48 team WC every 2 years would actually help the growth of the game in Africa and Asia , as FIFA claims it would ?( regardless of whether you like the idea or not)
Can you do a documentary on the afc Wimbledon on the nine promotions in eleven years, how they’re a fan own club and how they have a stadium in plough lane now.
@@SantomPh they are Wimbledon. They have the original FA cup they won. They had to start from the bottom and now they’re in league one which is good for the club.
I love this concept of content. Alfie, why don’t you also start to look into what is going wrong for specific players? (Ie Dele Alli) as well as crisis clubs
When you were talking about rich people getting away with crimes, I was also thinking about Robert Durst. And that other guy from the staircase who got away with it.
They're also one of the most hated clubs in Croatia for the same reason. A lot of its success is down to Mamic's total hegemony over Croatian football. With his hold over the national team as well as syphoning tons of public money in and out of the club, it was next to impossible for any player not to sign up to his agency and Dinamo. There are only a handful of player who tried their luck without signing for Mamic/Dinamo and succeeded. With all the best talent being amassed by Dinamo, the league was dominated by them and their satellite clubs to which they would loan out their surplus players, thus making the league uncompetitive. As a result, people lost all interest and the stadiums were largely empty. Dissatisfaction also escalated with the rise of right-wing groups whose antics supposedly aimed to hurt the corruption in croatian football, but just hurt the reputation of the whole country.
Yes, Croatian president (at the time) Franjo Tuđman didn't want a team from Zagreb to have communist name so he changed it to "Croatia Zagreb" because he wanted to spread name of Croatia who just came out of their war of independence. Fans were against club name and they wanted to bring back "Dinamo Zagreb" and they did it on Valentines day in 2000.
At a certain point in this series, you gotta ask if there are any hegemonic clubs of minor nations that aren’t super corrupt and run essentially as either criminal enterprises or 3rd world dictatorships?
Do a story on Velez Mostar and how they no longer play in their home stadium since the Bosnian war and how Zrinjski Mostar (the Croat club) now plays at their ground in a divided Mostar
Bro, this with wealthy people dont get arrested only in corrupt countries like on the Balkans, happens everywhere. You dont know that just because there are people in UK, us, france... who are much wealthier so they cover things up to the public. This is the reality of the world we live in...
TBH, seeing Croatian football being featured on this channel didn't surprise me much, however seeing my home town of 4000 people, where the largest Croatian prison is located, at 12:17 and almost being able to see my house on the photo is something I never expected :D
I remember when Gattuso joined Sion (wasn't he a player first, then manager? I'm sure he played for the club at the end of his career) - think he lasted about three months as coach! Then again, he's not the best example, I don't think he can go much longer than three months without getting himself in some kind of trouble, but still, 40 coaches in 13 years is a heck of a record!
@@danielkarmy4893 yes he played one season at Sion when the manager was demoted to scout (!) and became the manager for the rest of the season where he was released
THANK YOU! I have, for the better half of 4 years, been SO curious about the corruption of the Croatian league, considering the fan protests at Euro 2016, and the "11 in a row" consecutive league titles from 2006-2017, frequent European group stage appearances, and then subsequent 2nd golden age of the Croatian national team. I had gotten the gist of Dinamo Zagreb's leaders being in major roles to the Croatian football federation itself (yikes). But I had no idea it was THIS bad, and that they're actually pretty fucked at the moment.
You like making videos on more obscure clubs. And Bodø-glimt kind of just put themselves on the map with their crushing of Roma. So how about a video on them. As it is a pretty cool story. Club almost went bankrupt in 2006, after already being relegated from the first division due to financial issues, but through a loan, smart transfer dealings and sales. The club eventually won their first ever league title last year. And is in their first ever european competition this year. Where they battered Romas bench team
Pretty good insight but of course not complete. I'm Dinamo supporter and very critical of Mamić but let's start: 1. Dinamo is Croatian football powerhouse, majority of players when Croatia was 2nd and 3rd at World cup came from Dinamo 2. Mamić is very intelligent, capable, cunning and understands football. Self made man. 3. Dinamo is the most stable club with the largest budget in this part of Europe and is the envy of the region (neighbouring countries often praise Mamić and Dinamo and "invite" Mamić to come to their country and do the same thing in one of their clubs as he did in Dinamo 4. City of Zagreb financing Dinamo is not crucial since at least 2007. They give couple of million euros for Dinamo youth football academy (this is customary in Croatia as development of youth sportsmen is considered beneficial to society) and this is about 5% of the budget 5. Dinamo youth academy is at various lists among top 3 or top 5 football academies in Europe for development of young players 6. Bad Blue Boys are among the most loyal and fanatical supporters group in Europe and they do a lot of good and charitable work 7. You cannot understand Croatian history without going deeper in the subject. A lot of lies was manufactured in the past 70 years because of Yugoslav communist regime that oppressed Croats in Yugoslavia (one of the reasons for war and dissolution of country). But that understandable. Majority of what you said is correct though.
Have you ever considered linking your sources? Or maybe making footnotes or some form of bibliography? I find the information interesting, and I would love to see where you found it!
the reason Mamić is still free is cuz he have double citizenship , both croatian and bosnian, and he fled to bosnia. they can arrest him n send him back to croatia but they just dont do it, cuz bosnian politicians are being payd off by him also.
There's another club from the Balkans that could have a video from the "What on Earth is Going on at..." series - Levski Sofia. Once one of the most decorated clubs in Bulgarian football, is now on the verge of dropping off from the elite after years upon years of lots of manager turnovers, terrible transfers, huge debts and ownership turmoil (as well as political meddling). And considering that the CSKA's "seeing double" saga and the rise of Ludogorets from obscure small club in Razgrad to the undisputed king of the Bulgarian football (and the enemies this club has made) were already covered by HITC Sevens, I think there's enough material for Levski Sofia video as well. Speaking of the Bulgarian football in general, there's the recent controversial re-election of Borislav Mihaylov (GK from that Bulgarian team that finished 4th at the 1994 FIFA World Cup) as president of the Bulgarian Football Union (a position he has held since 2005) over Dimitar Berbatov. The entire tenure of Mihaylov at the helm of Bulgarian football could make an interesting video here as well.
@@ivanjegdic588 Not quite similar - long story short, the original CSKA Sofia was sent down to the third tier of Bulgarian football in 2015, but for the following season there were reforms of the top tier and one of the clubs in the new top division was CSKA-Sofia, which took the licence of Litex Lovech. Later, CSKA 1948 was formed as a fan-owned club in protest of the Grisha Ganchev-owned CSKA-Sofia, participating in the regional amatuer division (the 4th tier). The original CSKA Sofia is de facto no longer existing and there was a huge mess on who actually can claim the trophies, won by the original CSKA prior to 2016 (the Bulgarian Football Union recognizes CSKA-Sofia as continuation of the original club after Ganchev bought the assets of the defunct original club) as well as all the mumbo-jumbo surrounding CSKA-Sofia's status in UEFA and FIFA regarding payment issues with former players
Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia were members of UEFA from the Soviet times as sub-federations of the USSR, so naturally they joined UEFA afterwards. Kazakhstan is a transcontinental country like Turkey and therefore is eligible to join UEFA. It's thought that the former president Nursultan Nazabayev advocated for the switch to better ties with Russia and the rest of Europe and likely his ego.
Alfie again explaining a club's crisis which I didn't even know was happening
this channel is the university of football. loving it!!
@Ben B Artist agreed
What a coincidence, I am from Zagreb and I just played my class your Sheriff documentary yesterday since we were learning about unrecognised countries in geography. Finally some representation on this channel as well :)
I was at legia-zagreb so upset you guys won
GOATED TEACHER!
This was the only reason I was interested in geography lol.
Wetr sheriff video
@@logiic8835 I was at Dinamo-Legia, so upset you managed to equalize ;)
I never thought I’d see the day Alfie does a video on my hometown club holy shit
Early Christmas present haha
Sretan božic!
Thanks for Jakic lol fighter
when the british dude makes a what on earth happened to your club you know you’re about to get bodied
Holy shit this is such quality content Alf, you even managed to get the non related fiascos such as Tomislav Horvatinčić and Milan Bandič. Living in Zagreb my whole life I can tell you nailed the facts and stories of our clowns
Great vid Alfie! As a Slovenian with a Croatian father, I really appreciate the effort you put into your pronunciations, and to help you getting even better at it, here's a tip, in slavic languages, the J is pronounced like an english Y (like in yellow), that should smooth out the most common problem english speakers have with pronouncing slavic words (like Dejan Lovren, imagine the name being written as Deyan). Looking forward to more from you, thanks for all the research and effort you put into your content!
The j/y thing also applies to at least German, Dutch, the Scandinavian languages, the Baltic languages, Finnish, Hungarian and Albanian.
If your father is Croatian then you‘re Croatian
If your father is Croatian so are you.
Tebi je Stari poštar ako si Slovenac ili ? 😂😂😂
As a Croatian and Dinamo fan, this is fairly well done and well researched video. Good job
Still hoping for a "What on Earth is Going on at Sunderland?" Or maybe a "Fall and Fall of Sunderland"
Sunderland til I die showed our relegation to league one and failed attempt to get promoted back to the Championship, but a detailed look at the Premier League years before our relegation would be great, also looking at how things went after STID. The amount of bad luck and awful decisions and from board level down to the pitch is staggering. In the Ellis Short era, and then the Stewart Donald era.
-England losing against Iceland essentially resulting in us losing Allardyce, a great manager for us at the time, only for him to be sacked by England after 1 game.
-At one point having the 6th highest wage bill in the Premier League with nothing really to show for it.
-The purchase of Ricky Alvarez, not playing him, trying to back out of signing him, losing a lawsuit to Inter Milan and still suffering financial implications to this day.
-Signing the appalling Jack Rodwell and being financially crippled for years again
-Signing a completely past it Emmanuel Eboue who was then released 3 weeks later as he was banned from football for unpaid agent debts
-Playing Adam Johnson when the execs knew he was under investigation for sexual activity with a child.
-Well known drinking culture among players, general poor professionalism.
-Darron Gibson getting arrested for drink driving after a car crash. Gibson also filmed on social media off his tits bad mouthing the team and manager whilst still a player.
-Letting our top scorer leave in January in our Championship relegation season
-Selling our top scorer in January in our first League 1 promotion push
-Replacing him with Will Grigg for 3 million quid on a league 1 budget because our owner at the time wanted to be a big shot. Grigg was a failure since and never even wanted to come.
-Losing twice at Wembley in League 1 including in the playoff final in the 95th minute.
-Missing out on the playoffs after the season was cancelled due to COVID
-Losing again in the playoffs last season
-Losing last season's top scorer with 30 goals (Wyke) and our Captain (Power) to Wigan for free in the summer.
We've made a solid start to this season and made some decent signings under our new owner, but the whole story of the last 10 years is an absolute car crash worth a deep dive.
Must suck to be you rn due to.... various things.
What the level of debt at the club now. Don't you have a young new rich owner with a family background in football?
Am hoping the Saudis buy sunderland and then turn them into our B team
@@archstanton6102 Would guarantee us promotion to the PL
@@pbh81 The heir to a billionaires fortune apparently. His dad owned Marseille iirc imo
Absolutely correct and precise overview, one thing though that could be more pointed out is that Mamic had and still have an opposition in a majority of the fans and those fans are going through hell just for being against him and its been going on like that for years. That, together with the state of the stadium is the main reason why Dinamos home games have such low attendance.
I feel sorry for football fans in Croatia (and really the rest of Eastern Europe) for having to put up with all the corruption in the game. Football in Western Europe obviously isn't squeaky clean, but the problem seems much more extensive and blatant on the eastern side of the continent.
The only opposition to Mamic‘s mafia network are Hajduk Split and Torcida Split
As a guy who has a tradition cheering for Dinamo since they were established, only problem are the Mamić brothers, yes they were great scouts and creation of Modrić, Mandžukić etc. is great, but they stole so much money from the club, that is the only problem which is gone. Now they need to pay back the debt.
You cant really steal something from a place that you own :D
@@user-mb3dx5fl9f explain the 200 MILLION pound transfer earnings in the last 5/6 years yet a little amount spent?
@@tukok6296 again, just like what he said, u can't steal anything from something that u own
@@syauqirashadSR Have you watched the video? Alfie referred to them as manager and director. He didn't refer to them as owner. Why?
Because they never owned Dinamo Zagreb, no one can. It is legally a nonprofit organisation that doesn't issue shares and is owned by its members. Not these two gangsters.
@@user-mb3dx5fl9f You cant really say you own something when no one can :D
Brilliant vid Alfie, cheers and greetings from Zagreb! Also, should mention that Horvatincic actually has recently started serving his sentence - but with so many provisions that he may as well still be free 🙄
I looked up that Horvatincic story and he sounds like an awful person. He wanted the families of the two people he killed to pay for the damage done to his boat when he hit their sailboat.
Treba napraviti priču o svima i svemu ko krade i radi u javnim institucijama smišlja i zajebava građane.
I na čijem računu živite i Koste jeste komunistički podanici.
I encourage everyone to go watch Zdravko Mamic press conference compilations, they are hilarious
Not just Croatia.
Its literally the Balkans.
You could basically kill whoever you want, unless they are more powerful than you, you will walk free.
It's the same everywhere in the world.
@@Bioterorist not really like that though is it?
@@Bioterorist yea no in usa they will find you in minutes😂😂
@@Bioterorist In more "normal" country it's clearly not to that extend.
Welcome to Croatia, we have been expecting you.
Do more Balkan teams , there is so much material here xd You should do a video about FK Obilic , its a crazy story.
I remember Ceca being involved in the whole debacle, but I may be mistaken
@@mrsd8401 yes she was , really crazy and sad story of serbian football
Wasn't Obilić like the strongest side in the Serbian league when Ceca was the owner and then went into a complete debacle when she was arrested due to malversations?
@@mrmiranche they won the league in 98, but yeah, it was won by dubious means
@@mrmiranche nah not when ceca was the owner but when Arkan was xd
As an avid Dinamo Zagreb supporter and Zdravko Mamić hater I have to say you have made fantastic video and even better analysis of the club and Mamić brothers! Very very well researched, accurate and objective facts given. You have outdone yourself, this is your best video yet.
Fun fact: you have mentioned Tomislav Horvatinčić in the video, as the man who killed several people either by car or boat. He is former director at Dinamo and was charged for money laundering and tax evasion while working at the club. But of course, charges were dropped in 2012. Him and Zdravko Mamić are also very good friends.
Overall this is movie material right here! And a reason for constant headache among Dinamo supporters.
The phrase "Welcome to the Balkans" is 100% accurate. I can relate as a Balkan myself
Make a stand
While Dinamo is without a doubt the best club in Croatia it isn’t the most supported. Hnk Hajduk Split is the most supported club in the country, you can check average attendances from any era of croatian football history and see how big the gap is between Hajduk’s home and away support compared not just to Dinamo but to the rest of the league. Even without stadium attendance, Hajduk is supported throughout the whole region of Dalmatia and even parts of Slavonia while Dinamo’s support is mostly based in the capital of Zagreb.
I’m not shitting on Dinamo but saying that they’re the most supported club in the country is just an assumption based upon the fact that they’ve been dominating the league for the last 15 years.
Dinamo is not supported just in Zagreb. Big parts of Hercegovina, Slavonia and Croats from other forgein countries are supporting Dinamo.
maybe it's the number of paid up memberships, as well as international diaspora in countries like Germany, Bosnia Herzegovina and Australia.
Dinamo are not even the biggest in Croatia 😂😂😂
DINAMO ZAGREB
@@Maestro-le8gh you can say the same thing for Hajduk...
Fantastic video, and perfectly executed. Really enjoyed watching!
Great video. I m from Zagreb a Dinamo supporter since before I could remember. Pretty much 95 precent is spot on. Probably the best video on anything Croatian I have ever seen. Really great work your research is amazing.
Thank you for this video, God bless you!
Great Video , as a half german half croatian , its just saddening to see what is happening to my second home club down there.
Here is some latest news about this story. Zdravko Mamic is still in Bosnia and said he corrupted the judges who sentenced him to 6 years. He posted pictures and conversations where they can be seen celebrating and having fun together. He said he paid them all. Those judges are now in pre-trial detention, and the one who admitted to bribing them is still free in Bosnia. An even more bizarre situation in this story.
Latvian Football could be an interesting topic to do a video like this on, since 2 of the clubs in the top flight cannot play or have been banned. Ventspil have been banned for 7 years from football for match fixing and Noah were banned from registering new players due to unpaid fees and no longer have 11 players to field, so they have forfeited every game but 1 this season. I don't know everything because I don't really follow Latvian Football, but I would love more information on topic, because it seems juicy
And today former Latvian national team player and director of one of Top flight clubs has been banned for 10 years by UEFA.
Not to mention killing of one of football agents early this year.
Love these videos.
What On earth is going on at Saint-Etienne?
The fans had a banner saying the chairman must leave tomorrow and now have gotten their match delayed tonight
I think the banner was directed against manager Claude Puel not the chairman.
I also think Alfie could do a whole video on fan misbehavior in Ligue 1 this season. Groups of rival supporters fighting have delayed multiple games and it seems there's an issue with fans throwing things at players every weekend. Nice fans actually came onto the field to attack Marseille's players after Dmitri Payet threw a bottle back into the crowd. It sure looks like some French fans have lost their damn minds.
@@BiggieTrismegistus interesting can’t really find any info on it as it’s all in french. But yea that would be great there’s been so many incidents and it’s only the start of the season.
Hope he does a video on it , up untill this season (probably) the big dog of french football...after this season PSG overtakes them while they are relegating to League 2 probably sadly
@@AdamCanavan12 I don't know where you're from but I'm an American. The US is violent place with too many damned guns but one thing we don't have is the kind of sports-related violence I see in Europe. You'd almost never see a group of American fans go out onto the field and try to attack players like those Nice supporters did for example and the kind of hooliganism that used to exist in England and elsewhere would simply be unthinkable here. I've always wondered why the fan cultures are so different from one side of the Atlantic to the other.
@@BiggieTrismegistus dunno, every time the Broncos won the Super Bowl Denver ended up being a mess the next day.
As for fan culture, the franchise system of US sports mean that very few teams have a rooted support in a location (eg the NY Yankees) and even less with an already established rival (eg NY Mets). As any Dodgers or Nets or Bobcats fan will tell you, there are plenty of fans who have no club thanks to franchises moving and closing. Hence there are few ties to large fanbases compared to European football since the clubs are mostly transient. On a NBA,NHL,MLB etc level there are pretty much no organized hooligan groups based on clubs. Who would they fight?
In the USA a sports team is normally something people like to support and watch but not embody. In Croatia teams can have associations with the military, far-right groups, crooked politicians, the mafia and the devil Himself. I don't think Americans would pick up rifles in support of the LA Lakers or the Detroit Red Wings because sports is supposed to entertain in the USA, it's been largely divorced from politics. A literal game.
Luka "i can't remember" Modrić
As a Zagreb fan, i realy need to know the reason
Hey Alfie, cheers from Zagreb on this foggy Friday morning
It's crazy that with all this going on Dynamo Zagreb is still producing pure gold season after season regarding success and new young talents.
Hats down to this channel for being very good at presenting clubs and football histories form other lesser known parts of Europe and not just the top 5 leagues.
Fantastic video as always
Just finished Modric’s biography and he talks about the Mamic brothers alot., very interesting! Good video 🇭🇷
"Welcome to the Balkans." Alfie did not miss 🤣🤣🤣
Great video Alfie!! We need a ‘who the hell are Sherif FC’ video
If you're talking about sheriff tiraspol, he already made a video on them
@@nazifahmed7693 that’s true, well done to sheriff tiraspol on winning two matches in champions league already 😊
You know your team’s in bad place when Alfie makes an HITC Sevens ‘What On Earth Is Going On’ video on them
Excellent video.
I would like to point out that although Mamic is undoubtedly corrupt, he is one of many of the peas in the same pod.
I’m Croatian, and although I am supportive of the fact that we gained independence, it left a massive opportunity for corruption via crony capitalism. The country stinks of it, and football is no different.
Dinamo is the most infamous case, because the Mamic brothers were/are at the top of the pile, but almost all football clubs are run by guys cut from the same cloth, proclaiming they don’t want corruption, yet would commit such acts if they had the power to.
One story in particular would be NK Zadar president holding a gun to Subasic’s head forcing him to sign a contract extension to ensure he wouldn’t leave the club for free, just as an example.
Thank you for the content, this is the first video I’ve watched of yours and will be taking a deep dive into your channel regardless of what club/country your videos are centred around 👍🏻
Thank you so much for the upload!!!!!
You have a gift for answering the questions we weren’t asking until we were
Great video! Dinamo is definitely one of the most corrupt football clubs in the world. Hopefully there will be considerable change soon but I highly doubt it
@Nutty I think its different because 1. Bayern is still majority fan owned, and 2. neither club has the same dominance and control over their countries football and youth systems that Dinamo has. Additionally, Dinamo has money too, but the fans don't see any of it. While Man U and Bayern still complete big money moves for players like Sancho. Dinamo can't even renovate their own stadium properly.
@Nutty they had the money to improve the stadium and the cities approval to do so. It has nothing to do with the cities funds. they are a private entity with their own money to expand and renovate their stadium which they did not do because the money most likely went to someone's pockets. And regardless, I don't know what your argument is. We shouldn't pay attention to Dinamo because other clubs have the same problem? Just because others are doing the same thing doesnt mean the topic shouldn't be covered.
@Nutty I never said this only happens in the balkans. I just know as a balkan myself that the region is one of the most corrupt. And yeah they need approval from the city, but they received that approval already. They had plans for a much larger project, it just never reached its potential because of corruption.
@Nutty I have also been around the world, and yea there's corruption everywhere, that goes without saying. If you have money you have power in 90% of the world. There's no need to compare. I'm not saying the Balkans are the most corrupt. But one of the most corrupt, you cant deny that, this video proves that. Corruption is always more present and influential in smaller, poorer countries. Also, Zagreb have also been accused of match fixing so
Kme kmee tovare
Spot on. Glad that foreigners see what is really going on here in Croatia.
I hope this video gets millions of views... Finally someone speaks out!!!
HITC Sevens: Made a Video about Bodo/Glimt please!
Literally the Norwegian Ajax
The irony! Look at that username 😂
Who?
Why does that deserve a video from the UK...dont they have youtube in Norway.
0:00 - 0:04 correction 2nd Best supported team in croatia, first is their rivals, HNK Hajduk Split
Šta reći papcima koji NIKADA NISU NABILI NAŠU GRUPU?
16:04 - 16:14 out of context sounds like alfie has lost his mind and is coming for us all.
in croatian it makes more sense
SOMEONE CLIP IT!!! 🤣
As a person from Zagreb this is a very nice video.
This channel is such underrated...
fact check, Hajduk is best supported club in Croatia
Don’t even have to watch the whole video to know this will be a great documentary
as a Croatian myself I can assure you that Zdravko Mamić is the most influential and most recognized figure in Croatia
Completely on the spot! Good job mate!
Do red star belgrade next, they are also a very corrupt club and i am sure you will find some pretty intresting information especially about Zvezdan Terzic
Bi isto rekao. Gazde od svih velikih klubova na Balkanu su kriminalci
@@lukasnikolic2923 I mali klubovi su puni kriminalaca, npr. RNK Split i Žužul.
@@zeep5838 Ma cjeli nogomet na Balkanu je u rukama kriminalaca
hitcsevens love your work especially the fact that you covered the entire world and not just top league can you please do TP Mazembe 2010 World Cup please I’m sure people would love that story
Can you make a video on if you think a 48 team WC every 2 years would actually help the growth of the game in Africa and Asia , as FIFA claims it would ?( regardless of whether you like the idea or not)
No because they'll pay a fortune to get there to play three group games only to be knocked out.
Growth of the game in africa and asia? Look at how many top talented players who are playing at the top level, hail from an African or Asian country
@@espben360 Still very few compared to European and Latin American players (even Canada and the USA have produced some top level talent lately)
These are the videos where you really shine Alfie. Great job.
Very good job on the research
Another HITC Sevens classic
Great video, Hi from Dalmatia
Can you do a documentary on the afc Wimbledon on the nine promotions in eleven years, how they’re a fan own club and how they have a stadium in plough lane now.
as far as I'm concerned, they ARE Wimbledon. Didn't they apply for a name change at one point to just be Wimbledon?
@@SantomPh they are Wimbledon.
They have the original FA cup they won.
They had to start from the bottom and now they’re in league one which is good for the club.
I love this concept of content. Alfie, why don’t you also start to look into what is going wrong for specific players? (Ie Dele Alli) as well as crisis clubs
When you were talking about rich people getting away with crimes, I was also thinking about Robert Durst. And that other guy from the staircase who got away with it.
Day 10: Best non-FIFA affiliated national teams eg Catalonia and Martinique
Yea I'm from croatia and this is a good depiction of everything what happened 👏
Good work with the research for the topic. Keep it up!
I get excited when I see new Alfie videos in my Feed
They're also one of the most hated clubs in Croatia for the same reason. A lot of its success is down to Mamic's total hegemony over Croatian football. With his hold over the national team as well as syphoning tons of public money in and out of the club, it was next to impossible for any player not to sign up to his agency and Dinamo. There are only a handful of player who tried their luck without signing for Mamic/Dinamo and succeeded. With all the best talent being amassed by Dinamo, the league was dominated by them and their satellite clubs to which they would loan out their surplus players, thus making the league uncompetitive. As a result, people lost all interest and the stadiums were largely empty. Dissatisfaction also escalated with the rise of right-wing groups whose antics supposedly aimed to hurt the corruption in croatian football, but just hurt the reputation of the whole country.
Croatia is a great country to visit, I absolutely love that place 🇭🇷
Is it easy to get match tickets for a Dynamo game
@@breenirwin2356 Dinamo * , yes
@@plavideckozg277
One day I will go
@@breenirwin2356 my man their stadium is a ruin
@@ratniveteran7556 kme kme tovare
Anybody old enough to remember when they were called Croatia Zagreb?
Yes
Have the jersey 😗
Like these videos, great work.
Another excellent video
I remember when we played them in a CL qualifier when they were called Croatia Zagreb
Croasia
that's a different club from Zagreb, Dinamo never had a name change afaik
@@Occupiedfall They had 3 names. Gradanski, Croatia and Dinamo. They did it to avoid depth.
Yes, Croatian president (at the time) Franjo Tuđman didn't want a team from Zagreb to have communist name so he changed it to "Croatia Zagreb" because he wanted to spread name of Croatia who just came out of their war of independence. Fans were against club name and they wanted to bring back "Dinamo Zagreb" and they did it on Valentines day in 2000.
@@hellothere9763 it's written "debt", not "depht", and name changes had nothing to do with that.
The best channel,bar none. Criminals beware! ( if they ever come after you Alfie ,you can stay in my shed for a bit)
At a certain point in this series, you gotta ask if there are any hegemonic clubs of minor nations that aren’t super corrupt and run essentially as either criminal enterprises or 3rd world dictatorships?
like PSG?
@@SantomPh France isnt exactly a minor nation but I bet if you scratch the surface you'll find some shady shit going on at PSG
@@Kyle-mw3bo no need to scrape the surface, they were bought to white-wash Qatari atrocities
@@JoseDoesntGetHistory Newcastle has joined the chat 😆
I view Scottish football as being shambolically run, until I hear anything about Balkan leagues.
Do a story on Velez Mostar and how they no longer play in their home stadium since the Bosnian war and how Zrinjski Mostar (the Croat club) now plays at their ground in a divided Mostar
Velez je nebitan svima izvan bih...
Bro, this with wealthy people dont get arrested only in corrupt countries like on the Balkans, happens everywhere. You dont know that just because there are people in UK, us, france... who are much wealthier so they cover things up to the public. This is the reality of the world we live in...
TBH, seeing Croatian football being featured on this channel didn't surprise me much, however seeing my home town of 4000 people, where the largest Croatian prison is located, at 12:17 and almost being able to see my house on the photo is something I never expected :D
Do what the hell od going on at Hajduk split
Politics then the mob. Same results.
18:39 FC Sion: Amateurs.
(They have had about 40 Coaches since 2008)
I remember when Gattuso joined Sion (wasn't he a player first, then manager? I'm sure he played for the club at the end of his career) - think he lasted about three months as coach! Then again, he's not the best example, I don't think he can go much longer than three months without getting himself in some kind of trouble, but still, 40 coaches in 13 years is a heck of a record!
Tramezzani is a great manager. I hope he will return to Hajduk Split
@@ratniveteran7556 Well it's his third time since 2017 in this job so maby
@@danielkarmy4893 yes he played one season at Sion when the manager was demoted to scout (!) and became the manager for the rest of the season where he was released
Love the background videos on the mental owners of football clubs and dodgy dealings
Can you do what on earth going on at AS St Etienne please
we need a video for red star and their controversial owners, great video btw
3 unskippable 30 second ads, dude wtf 😐
16:04 whenever anyone unsubs from HITC Sevens 👀
Great video, everything is true.. 👍👍
THANK YOU!
I have, for the better half of 4 years, been SO curious about the corruption of the Croatian league, considering the fan protests at Euro 2016, and the "11 in a row" consecutive league titles from 2006-2017, frequent European group stage appearances, and then subsequent 2nd golden age of the Croatian national team.
I had gotten the gist of Dinamo Zagreb's leaders being in major roles to the Croatian football federation itself (yikes).
But I had no idea it was THIS bad, and that they're actually pretty fucked at the moment.
You like making videos on more obscure clubs. And Bodø-glimt kind of just put themselves on the map with their crushing of Roma. So how about a video on them. As it is a pretty cool story. Club almost went bankrupt in 2006, after already being relegated from the first division due to financial issues, but through a loan, smart transfer dealings and sales. The club eventually won their first ever league title last year. And is in their first ever european competition this year. Where they battered Romas bench team
Robert Durst was charged with murder legit 3 hours after you dropped this video lmao. The HITC sevens curse is real
Pretty good insight but of course not complete. I'm Dinamo supporter and very critical of Mamić but let's start: 1. Dinamo is Croatian football powerhouse, majority of players when Croatia was 2nd and 3rd at World cup came from Dinamo 2. Mamić is very intelligent, capable, cunning and understands football. Self made man. 3. Dinamo is the most stable club with the largest budget in this part of Europe and is the envy of the region (neighbouring countries often praise Mamić and Dinamo and "invite" Mamić to come to their country and do the same thing in one of their clubs as he did in Dinamo 4. City of Zagreb financing Dinamo is not crucial since at least 2007. They give couple of million euros for Dinamo youth football academy (this is customary in Croatia as development of youth sportsmen is considered beneficial to society) and this is about 5% of the budget 5. Dinamo youth academy is at various lists among top 3 or top 5 football academies in Europe for development of young players 6. Bad Blue Boys are among the most loyal and fanatical supporters group in Europe and they do a lot of good and charitable work 7. You cannot understand Croatian history without going deeper in the subject. A lot of lies was manufactured in the past 70 years because of Yugoslav communist regime that oppressed Croats in Yugoslavia (one of the reasons for war and dissolution of country). But that understandable. Majority of what you said is correct though.
Have you ever considered linking your sources? Or maybe making footnotes or some form of bibliography? I find the information interesting, and I would love to see where you found it!
15:36 IRL 2balkan4you meme "the least corrupt club in Croatian football"
Great and very true story from the neutral point of view! Well done m8
the reason Mamić is still free is cuz he have double citizenship , both croatian and bosnian, and he fled to bosnia. they can arrest him n send him back to croatia but they just dont do it, cuz bosnian politicians are being payd off by him also.
What. A.Video! 🙌🏽
Mamić was literally like "I'm playing both sides so that I'm always ahead" from *Always Sunny* 😂😂
There's another club from the Balkans that could have a video from the "What on Earth is Going on at..." series - Levski Sofia. Once one of the most decorated clubs in Bulgarian football, is now on the verge of dropping off from the elite after years upon years of lots of manager turnovers, terrible transfers, huge debts and ownership turmoil (as well as political meddling). And considering that the CSKA's "seeing double" saga and the rise of Ludogorets from obscure small club in Razgrad to the undisputed king of the Bulgarian football (and the enemies this club has made) were already covered by HITC Sevens, I think there's enough material for Levski Sofia video as well.
Speaking of the Bulgarian football in general, there's the recent controversial re-election of Borislav Mihaylov (GK from that Bulgarian team that finished 4th at the 1994 FIFA World Cup) as president of the Bulgarian Football Union (a position he has held since 2005) over Dimitar Berbatov. The entire tenure of Mihaylov at the helm of Bulgarian football could make an interesting video here as well.
What's the deal with CSKA and 1948 CSKA? Is it something simmilar to Steaua Bucharest and FCSB?
@@ivanjegdic588 Not quite similar - long story short, the original CSKA Sofia was sent down to the third tier of Bulgarian football in 2015, but for the following season there were reforms of the top tier and one of the clubs in the new top division was CSKA-Sofia, which took the licence of Litex Lovech. Later, CSKA 1948 was formed as a fan-owned club in protest of the Grisha Ganchev-owned CSKA-Sofia, participating in the regional amatuer division (the 4th tier). The original CSKA Sofia is de facto no longer existing and there was a huge mess on who actually can claim the trophies, won by the original CSKA prior to 2016 (the Bulgarian Football Union recognizes CSKA-Sofia as continuation of the original club after Ganchev bought the assets of the defunct original club) as well as all the mumbo-jumbo surrounding CSKA-Sofia's status in UEFA and FIFA regarding payment issues with former players
@@ivaneurope Damn, that's a mess. Thanks for the info, hope someone will end Ludogorets' reign soon.
Great video. Can you please do a video explaining why Asian countries like Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan are members of UEFA?
Israel too
@@damjanp7920 pretty sure they let Israel join because most Arab countries refused to play against them
@@Mark-uh3un aww poor Israel
@@Mark-uh3un The AFC has a strong Arab bloc which would never allow Israel to join it, so Israel joined UEFA instead
Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia were members of UEFA from the Soviet times as sub-federations of the USSR, so naturally they joined UEFA afterwards. Kazakhstan is a transcontinental country like Turkey and therefore is eligible to join UEFA. It's thought that the former president Nursultan Nazabayev advocated for the switch to better ties with Russia and the rest of Europe and likely his ego.
Sad thing is that is just tip of the iceberg of the whole debacle of the club.
for instance: Under Zdravko Mamić at one point Dinamo played with HDZ u
Would you ever consider doing a video on John Delaney and the complete financial mess he left the Football Association of Ireland in?
Zdravko Mamić is a kind of guy that would successfully sell his prison cellmate to Besiktas for 5 million euros
Hahahahaha true
That cellmate have more talent than Bosko Balaban.
Damn, Dinamo Zagreb sounds like a mafia
It is mafia pura!!!
Its all true