Guys, my knowlodge on MBTI isn't that extent, so maybe I'm putting this on the wrong terms, but I guess you'll get the message: OPS needs to work on its Te. It seems to me like Shannon and maybe even both of you have Te, but the channel DOES NOT. You guys are great and you bring great content, but PLEASE make it easier for the tribe to navigate through the videos. There's no organization and no patterns to find the videos, so it's very complicated to make an ordered and profound study of the complexities of MBTI. I'm not sure if I was able to clearly express the issue, but here are some solutions: 1- Playlists: at first, a very simple way of organizing an youtube channel. Just subcategorize the videos using whatsoever criteria would be really helpful. Now it'll be a little harder for you but we'd be really happy :) 2- Titles: this one is just something to use in the future. I love the titles making fun of the function etc, but maybe try to put them on the thumb. It makes it harder for someone who's looking for a video on that specif subject to find it. Well, that's it. I don't know why I made a list if there were only two topics. Maybe it's because it'll be easier for you guys to read it... ps sorry for my bad english etc etc
Te is basically about just getting the job done, right? I think that's what they've been doing. I agree they'd benefit from what you pointed out, but that sounds more like Si - labelling, organizing, sequencing, etc. As an INTP lead consume, I can appreciate the need for more Si, but my Ne is also happy to consume their chaotically arranged tidbits XD
De = The "Senders' Dilemma = "you need to go inward & stop bugging me all the time!" Di = The 'Receivers' Dilemma = "stop keeping things to yourself, you need to communicate w/ us!" Moral: Start early! becoz either way, we are all screwed! 😂
Is it in any way shape or form possible for me (I am someone who's really introverted, trying to work on myself bla bla bla) to be De savior? I just feel like what other ppl think of me has such a HUGE impact on my confidence that it's impossible for me to be IxxP. Like literally, I would irl tell you that I started working out to "push limits of my body", to finally live healthier etc etc, but like the reality is that I just wanted that girl to like me. That's it. All there is to my motivation. I feel like idk 60-70% of my motivation towards self improvement comes from other ppl making me feel like I'm not good enough. And idk if I am ExxJ or IxxP when I care about other ppls opinions of me like soooo much. I don't know if I'm on the right path. Rn I am trying to change behavior of other ppl towards me by closing in and working on myself and trying to become more "worthy". But like I don't know if this is my savior or demon state.. scince I was like 10 I've spent almost all my time playing videogames and watching yt etc, so my social skills are quite fucked up, and it really messed with me when I screw up in front or with other people which makes me think that I am De, but at the same time, for the past 7 years I am isolated (not literally but like super not social) bc I like to spend time this way. Like I really do care what other ppl think of me but am not willing to even spend time with them. I really don't know how would I do that either, I'm probably missing so many opportunities but this is the "you don't know what you don't know" kind of thing so I really don't know. I don't even know why I wrote this comment, altho it seem quite horribly written do I guess my De is my demon? Also does this sound like me venting out ideas or emotions? (Fe or Te?) I can't really tell 😅
@@richeeg3271 I can see a. 'single observer' quality on the way you look at yourself. I suggest try watching more of OPs videos relating to 'double deciding' and 'single observing'. Both terms are the same but mean differently from another perspective. Im thinking you are more of an ISFJ. Just a hunch though. 👍
@@johnniedilangcruz9287 @Johnnie Dilang Cruz Hmm ok. I mean when I say I am definitely Decider type, it's a sign of a possibility of being an observer type. But I feel like I only care about ppl, not things. Like I don't think I rly care much about chaos/someone controlling me. Idk, what I wrote was 100% from a demon function, so idk if it was too messy or something like that. Altho there is some stress of me not being able to organize my thoughts, maybe I might have demon Ne idk, but I feel like I've listed like a million "concepts" so idk if Ne would really be a demon. Yeah I'll watch some more of those, thx for the reply
If he’s asking too many questions, give him books, tell him nursery rhymes, tell him stories and poems, then YOU ask him questions, so he’ll have to be busy thinking.
I'm now basically 100% certain I have Te, the very first description of the olive situation is basically how I am with any single thing I am doing for someone else, sometimes I don't even want to make it perfect out of kindness, I just don't want the other person to change their mind and say they would have preferred it differently. I know this video is 3 years old, but thank you for all of the help you have provided me, currently trying to figure out whether I'm an ENTJ or INTJ and this channel is very helpful.
I don’t think anyone is saying it’s “not normal”, but for example, I grew up nextdoor to my INFJ cousin. I’m an INTP. I asked A LOT of questions - and she rarely did.
If you really Fe want to please someone and think olives are Fe valuable, then you put the olives in a little side dish. That way they can silently Fi/Ti add /eat them, or not. Fe harmony = buffet style. I guess the ‘fuss’ becomes something Se physical that way, which might still annoy some people? Do Si users dislike buffet style pick-n-choose meals? I can imagine some might think it’s sloppy to not offer a complete meal in one...
I have Si last, and I'm prolly most comfortable with the Taco Tuesday kind of setup, if the dish has those variables. Dislike buffets, tho. Quantity has pretty much compromised quality at that point.
I’m an INTP and I love having control over my food. Sometimes I like to eat things in a certain order. Sometimes I want more of one thing and less of the other. But what I don’t like is having to assemble my own wraps and sandwiches because they’re always messy and falling apart, and I hate when Subway makes me pick literally everything on my sandwich if they already made their sandwich...number things. Like if I say a number 7, why do you have to ask me how it’s made? You gave me numbers, I chose a number. Make my sandwich please. I shouldn’t be responsible for telling you how to build this sandwich. Anyways, I chose a number 7 because I want to try a number 7. That doesn’t count if the number 7 is a variable item. Because then if I like it I can’t get the same number 7 when I come back. Also - I didn’t research this. I’m not an educated sandwich maker. You are the person with the skills and experience. It’s your responsibility to produce a finished product and if I like it I’ll, once again, order, and pay for your sandwich. But no. I go to Subway and I get a cheap Wordpress template delivered by some high school student they pulled out of class that doesn’t know where he is or why he is there, and I’m in charge of ordering him around to make my sandwich like he’s the sandwich slave. Okay. So you can tell I have issues with subway. But what I would like is if Subway just put all their food items out and let me make my own sandwich. Then I don’t have to try to Fe navigate a conversation with you while I conceptualize the right way to complete this task. I don’t like my sandwiches seasoned with social interactions. It ruins the experience 😂
For the record, my brother, who is a sensory dom that loves to cook, usually lets us choose our food items buffet style now. Every once in a while though he gets this thing where we all get the same plate of food. I much prefer the buffet style thing. When we get the same plate of food I feel like if I don’t eat it all I’ll hurt his feelings, and I know he worked hard to make that food, but there’s certain things I’m less keen on than other things and I wasn’t that hungry. So eating a whole chicken breast, for instance, is out. Yet if I eat half a chicken breast - I now wasted that foot item by half eating it. So good job for me - I suck 👏 Of course I never think this critically when people offer me delicious free food. Ever. I’m always just pleased to be fed. I am a simple creature. There’s no way I would ever go through this much effort to produce such a glorious product, but I can absolutely appreciate the end result when someone else does it for me. Honestly just the fact that it required no effort on my part makes the food taste good. It’s like a free pass to not have to worry about a whole bunch of things related to feeding myself. Also it makes me feel special when someone goes out of their way to feed me nice food. Like...I would never do this - but here you are doing this with your time and energy to show your affection - and I appreciate that deeply. One of my favorite things about my ex-boyfriend was that he fed me. I put up with a lot of his bs because he actually hand made real food like biscuits and gravy. I also gained like 80 lbs, and am steadily losing weight now that I’m single and on self-feed. 😂 You probably forgot about this comment but in case you didn’t - that’s my thought process regarding this topic.
I love how he said algorithm like people are just on different wave lengths ,accomplishing a different goal and like you guys say sometimes speaking a different language. Lol for the self esteem thing Idk I’ve just been blessed I guess.
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo funny u mention music! well in my eyes there’s many reasons why people listen and how they define GOOD MUSIC. I think of it in deciders popular music(fe) awarded (te) ,(ti)beats while I’m studying (fi)music for my mood. why people listen to music is completely different. And like the guy above he can see it but “so what” lol and I would say that kinda applies to the tones like if someone like “so what” how much effect can it have on them really?
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo oh I get what you’re saying! As far as “NF stuff”! Gender identity! Like when people argue gender and sex. Ones NF ones ST. So they’re talking about two different things and on two completely different topics!
Really working on validating myself these days. Sounds corny, but I didn’t understand loving or even liking myself up until recently. Like Lisa, I have to tell myself things that other people may regard as super basic like “my opinion is valid”. My opinion is so easily swayed & drowned out by the tribe due to my need for validation. Grrr. So many times I’m like “wait, I was actually right all along.”
If I ask if you want something, and you answer incorrectly and I go off of your incorrect answer, that’s on you. I did my best. I didn’t have to do anything for you. I could have ignored you. So when I offer to do something for you, it’s up to you to get the most out of my offer.
That's so messed up. When I was dating my ENFJ Girlfriend, she was like that all the time. She was such a food snob I thought. I found her to ask such indirect questions, that would constantly cause me to justify myself, and it was usually in regards to things that were so petty.
I’m saviour Ti, but I do do this a lot where I do something that I feel great about, but then I need the validation from everyone else just to solidify what I already feel I know lol
Lol! I am Fi/Ne, and when I was a kid I would always say a statement and then go, "Right?" I wanted that validation. As an adult I see myself doing it by saying a fact, but saying it in a way that it sounds like I don't know, which is kind of bizarre. Like I will know listeria (a bacteria) grows in dirt. And then I will say, "But doesn't listeria grow in dirt?" And they will go, "I don't know." And then it is kind of just left like that with them thinking I don't know, but I know for a fact that it does. But it is so hard for me to just say, "But listeria grows in dirt." I am not sure why I do that.
koi fin omg why do I see so much of myself in what u wrote? A lot of points you make like ur past and their potential reactions. You literally have 0 control over those things here and now. Even robbing yourself of potential human connection.Let your trickster throw a ball into the universe and see what u get back.
This is the "typology" validation I've always been looking for, this right here. I am Fe dominant, which has a very Christ-like flavor, so I've always been overly concerned that I'm playing the victim too much. Added with a lifetime of being "the scapegoat" in a narassistic family of domestic abuse (cops, go figure), I now have the thin string of fringe science validation that I was correct all along by loving myself anyway and living in complete defiance of my wonderfully successful/ carefully abusive family. My whole life I wasn't being a victim, I was being tortured. In a life of being invalidated, this has given me some of the most useful validation. I'm so thankful to have objective theory and to see the frequency of a truth fine-tuned from Jung to science- it is a comfort and hope going into this new generation of collective understanding.
this made me realise my ni and fe are both fine, and its my ti that concludes the negative thoughts, and its what stops me from movement, because its negative. thank you as well for helping me realise i have such a natural fe. alot of it is probably unconcious, since its so natural to me. youre helping me make the fe moments concious, and that is so helpful!
@@lilyluna4155 Same, but I've learned maladaptive coping mechanisms to cope. Ignore my Fe in groups and use my Ne with confidence rather than shut down and go into a Ti Si loop in the corner. It works, but I annoy people and ramble, 1 on 1, i'm solid. In a group everyone dislikes it. Thus making my insecure Fe get more validation and it gets worse. At this point I can talk people's ears off and actively listen, but as soon as I even think about Fe, or look at body language I'm convinced people hate me and shut down. If i'm in a Ti-Si loop I'd rather be by myself. And if something happens that actually shows I'm rejected during that my Ti turns to demon Fi and I am incredibly triggered and sensitive to just being there, and will go off at people. I'm socially ambiverted too so I don't want to stay in a Ti-Si loop forever unless i'm sick of people. Makes me think the INTP stereotype is actually a damaged INTP who literally never uses any Extroverted Functions and is in a Ti-Si loop and that is their comfort zone, worse, when they're always thinking inwards the Ne becomes Ni and they reject Fe, so Fi is what they use when triggered. Thus they create an Ni-Fi loop too
"What I value is not fussing" -- Yes! As Consume/Sleep, others trying to rope me into their fussing is very irritating. I'm an Ne-dom, you're telling me it would be even worse if my Di was my dominant function?
It does get tiring. Once you've come up with an answer, you're almost always already sure of it and done with it, so when someone with De keeps asking along the same line of inquiry like it's supposed to change your mind and make you think about it more, it begins to feel like an unnecessarily overextended exercise. It's helpful learning about different personalities 'cause it's teaching me to become more understanding with how everyone's mind is operating in its own way.
@@adielwilson8749 Yeah Fi/Ti in dom and auxillary hate having to make decisions that they're not in control of like, we don't force others to get invested in what we're doing don't get us dragged into your chaotic world of pointless decisions hahha
Yes, but when it comes to a new food (e.g. I'm trying Turkish cuisine for the first time), I have no prior knowledge or palette memory, my basis from Northern African/Greek food could be totally off. How can I tell you what I want/expect?
@@BrockMak ya like it would help to know what is in stuff. I dislike ppl asking me to taste something while refusing to answer any questions i have about the dish. I hate the haha i made u swallow feeling.
I'm an INTP, and honestly I don't care about food. Unless I randomly feel like cooking for fun, I just cram the most calorie-dense thing I can find into my mouth. The less time I spend thinking about keeping my body alive, the more time I can spend trying to figure out the things that could help humanity, like how you could theoretically create an insulated pocket of spacetime to encapsulate something (like a ship or a person or whatever), and because distortions in spacetime can move faster than the speed of light, it would allow us to create warp drives, teleportation, maybe even time travel. Anyway, whatever's easiest for the person preparing the meal is fine. I'm rarely paying attention when I'm eating anyway. Edit: I just realized I went on one of those weird INTP rants, and almost cut some of it out. But maybe it can be a case study for someone who wants to practice typing.
Its not that, its the underlying needy feelings of always trying to get validation from other people, even in things like cooking. It gets annoying because it looks like youre insecure and can't make a decision yourself. Manners/trying to be considerate (which is what you're describing) vs neediness gives off different vibes
This was great! *dances a jig* It's tough not to feel that De need... like something will be wrong if you don't 'make sure'. Make sure what? I don't know. Just make sure. *screams in existential angst*
Jesus Christ... So, this is my husband and me (I'm the INFJ, he's the ISTP), and we play these "games" on the daily. I like to sew, and he needs a good mask (because he's the one who braves the apocalyptic world we live in now), and I've gone through four different patterns trying to find the "perfect" mask for him. Last night I finished what I considered my BEST attempt. It not only looked amazing, I thought it would fit really well and was super excited. I walk into where he's gaming and wait for him to die in game before speaking (I don't want to be the cause of him dying, so I don't speak, but I DO want him to die so I CAN speak). I'm like, "Here it is!" He tries it on, says, "Yeah, it's great. Thanks." And I stand there, waiting for more.... Always. Like a fucking neurotic idiot. As if suddenly he's going to change and be like, "Holy crap honey... NO ONE has ever done anything so thoughtful and amazing for me before in my entire life!!" As usual, I started to find flaws in the stupid mask. It's utterly ridiculous. I see it after the fact, but in the moment I'm like, "Does he really like it? Does it really fit? Will this finally be my undoing?!"
Oh God, I pray to live in a world where no one asks me detailed questions about the food I want nor hands me objects. Even worse is when they say, “I noticed you didn’t eat breakfast yet, aren’t you hungry? I can make you something?” WHY are you Spying on me!!!!!! WHY do you not remember I don’t eat breakfast and haven’t for the 25 years you’ve known me!!!!
When my kids went through their question asking phase, I would answer a few and when I got tired of it, I would start shrugging my shoulders and telling them I didn’t know. They both got me back. Now they do it to me! 😂😂
Ti/Fi LOVE being asked because they have a unique perspective on what's important. What they hate is being asked anything that the other person could decide for *themselves* (or like in this case, something they had already defined their stance on). Fe/Te types will NOT consult others when they feel confident that they can fulfil the necessities of others.
No.. Infj here. Depending on the question, I love questions. I’m not the type to offer up information blindly so I ALWAYS appreciate others putting in the effort to get to know me on a deeper level. Please check your facts and stop spreading misinformation.
It is interesting to see how functions work in relationships! And I love that you put the functions on the screen next to them to help show how each savior function works with the video example. Loved the video! Side note: I am savior Fi, so would love to see an Fi/Ti video next! Thank you!
Omg!! 😂 I find that so hurtful! Yes! Stop what you’re doing and take this cup and plate and say thank you and tell me how pretty the food is and point out at least one detail of the presentation! Or I will resent you! Understanding this helps.
I just noticed I don't often like your videos because they are so interesting I don't even rember about it. Guess I'm going back in my chronology to like all of them
IxxP- I'm too confident in myself to ask others what they think about out it, but I'm still scared of the answer (or reaction), so in fact, that is the reason I don't ask others for opinions.
3:01 I'm INTP-T, but when it comes to food, I must eat first and reason later. I'll still write a review before I leave if you want, but not after I'm done.
I get very annoyed when I get a haircut and the hairdresser asks if it's ok after every snip and asks a thousand different ways how I want it. My usual answer "You're the professional. Hair grows back so don't overthink it. Have fun." I don't feel so bad now for never returning to see these hairstylists.
I hate when my family is compelled to talk to me for no reason when I don't want to talk to them. just leave me alone to think about whatever it is I am focusing on, the voices in the background kill me mentally.
Wow, I hate being handed things too. I thought I was just warped from childhood or something! Like in Vegas, they use to try to hand you brochures on the street. It’s so amazing that people just take them! I’m not taking it because I thought about it and I don’t want it. And if I did accept it then I an morally responsible to dispose of it properly. And I have also contributed to flagrant waste of resources. Or unpacking groceries, Let me pick what needs to be put away next. If you hand it to me, I’m having to make decisions on the fly with each item. In my natural state, my brain will organized the items and I’ll put them away without having to think about it.
I hate being handed things too! I get annoyed by the obligation of it. Like now there is an item in my hand that I have to focus on and process. I’m an INTP and I spend virtually all day, every day, in my head. When I get handed things it interrupts my train of thought
That's exactly like me and my parents. Me:"No, I don't want that" Parents:"But... Uh why not. We also have salmon" Me:" You and your perfectionist culture" Me 30 seconds later: " Hmm 🤔 . Hadn't thought about that. I'll take the salmon as well as the blue cheese I saw I your fridge earlier" Parents:" But they don't go well together on the same plate. Cheese comes after salmon " Me: "I. Know. "
im infp, but I feel like I'm De? insecure about what others think of me, always bombard people asking their opinions on topics I am interested in, and lots of time my goal is to let those opinions get validated in the tribe. Mistyped?
My spouse hands me things that I don’t ask for. This is a pet peeve of mine. I will be cooking and my spouse will come in and hand me the hammer that they were using, like I asked for the hammer or something. WTH?? Same with handing me something that they could put down on a desk that is the same distance from each of us. I always ask, “Why are you handing me this to me?” & “I didn’t ask for this so why are you giving it to me?” Makes NO SENSE AT ALL!!
This may be trivial, but the focus of your camera is aimed on the background causing you, the subject, to be slightly blurred. (That is all.) Great video. 👍
@@princessonuoha79 I can see why you'd say that. That was a very "thing/logic" comment. In Myer's Briggs I've tested as ISFP. I've yet to be typed in OPS.
i honestly despise the validation game Fe people play. I respect it in the sense that it's effective, but I absolutely despise it in a feeling/moral sense. I just. I don't like the fact that they do it and it's effective. It genuinely pisses me off. Worse fact is, it actually does work. They end up getting their pity compliments, and they feel satisfied with that. It just pisses me off. I don't get why other people can't see the game that hey buddy, you're getting milked for validation. I'm starting to just think they don't actually care. I can't tell if I envy it or not. I hate the fact that if you call it out people will accuse you of being envious. It just. Why. Why are people willing to do that? I don't fucking get it. I don't get it at all.
As a person with high Fe, I see this a lot in other high Fe users and it pisses me off as well but what you need to recognize is that because they have Fe and aren’t even conscious of their Fi at all (at first), they just don’t know any other way to interact with people.
I wish the title of this video was different. The word "connect" makes me think of just general conversations and trying to grow closer to others, and not what the video's actual topic is about (insecurity, cohesion).
@@biapicf1717 indeed. There is a cultural bias that favors cold logic over empathy - but it is, in and of itself, inherently illogical. The thing about human intelligence is that half of it stems from our ability to relate to other humans. Some of the more cognitively handicapped humans in society are the psychopaths, because they lack the ability to empathize. I was about to go on a major rant but I stopped myself. You’re welcome! At any rate, Fe is actually highly intelligent in a way that Ti is not. Fe is grounded in reality - understanding the fabric of society and the way that the human brain gears grind. They are your chameleons of social situations, in my experience. Extraordinary social and emotional intelligence. Those abilities give them deep insights into humanity that others lack. I’ve found personally that nature Fe doms also have an impressive degree of resiliency despite being sensitive by nature. They can’t cope with everything, obviously, but they can cope with things the other types can’t seem to handle. I’m an INTP and I like to seek out intellectuals who I can share my thoughts with. I’ve befriended them, dated them, hunted them down online and engaged in debates - and what I came to realize was that one of the most intelligent, if not the most intelligent person I had ever met was the girl that grew up to me right nextdoor…and she’s an INFJ. She never claimed to be intelligent, or tried to be intelligent, but there are massive flaws in these intellectuals I’ve met - flaws I share myself - that she has immunity to. She sees the world for what it actually is, and she’s not fooled by the superficial pissing contest that is “facts” and “evidence”. The truth is - we know next to nothing. We think we know so much, but the field of science, and even math (if you can believe it) are critically flawed and often lead to inaccuracy. However what never changes is that the world we live in is Human first and foremost - and that’s where my INFJ lives too. I can’t pretend I’m not a little bit jealous. Not only that - but she knows things about me before I know them myself. She sees straight through emotions, social manipulation, complex relationships…man. It’s off-putting! 😂
@@biapicf1717 Sooo…there was a point to that. Oh. I would say - get your head out of the sand and realize the strengths of Fe so you can start correcting the idiots who have inaccurate perceptions about the functions. Because, clearly, they have no idea what they’re talking about and someone needs to help them see reason.
@@AK-jt7kh first of all, sorry for the late response! So, I always get confused to which type I actually am. Sometimes I see myself as an INTP, just like you! Because there are some cognitive aspects that I relate too much. But other times, I think I might be an INFJ. It's so weird because it's a mix of emotions. I always get tested as some type of Fi dom or, at least, a very high Fi. But, to be honest, I can't see myself as a Fi user. I don't know my emotions, wether I am happy or sad, sometimes I watch a video that makes me happy and I start laughing and I cry, not because it was very funny, but I think I activate the tear mechanism and I end up using as a way to liberate emotions, the reason for the tears is usually unknown lmao and at the same time, for me to relate to what a person is going through I have to have been through the same thing or feel some sympathy towards them. Let's use characters as examples, if it is someone that I don't like that much who is sad, I feel nothing, but if it is my favorite or one that I like, I suffer with them 😪 Also, I can't help but feel the need to help people. Even if I don't know them. I might see someone asking questions on twitter, I feel the urge to answer. Some friends take advantage of that and don't google some basic stuff, they ask me because they KNOW I will google it or at least know part of the answer to their problem. That's why I said I related to what she said a lot. I don't know if I am high Fe user or not, but I might have it on my top 4 functions. I am very introverted at first but I was so different as a kid and even a bit wild when I get to know the person, like, doing things out of the blue. This is what gets me so confused because I can be very private, not wanting to demonstrate emotions but being clingy and just wanting a friend to spend the whole day together. I guess traumas can really get into our personality. Oh, and please, don't stop yourself, I also love to have debates.
Struggle is real for us double deciders. It had became so bad for me that I had to start making a dossier on what everyone in my family wants just so I can get started on dinner. I'm sorry but having do that it's just sooo fucking stupid because these are the same people that will complain when their food isn't right even though they do nothing to communicate that fact. If they want treated like a bunch of goddamn feral cats then fine I'll put their publix subs on the floor in a nice silver bowl with their fucking names on it. And seriously, if I am in the middle of making dinner, I seriously do not want to hear any opinion because it's obviously past of no return. Dave, on the behalf on everyone that has to deal with your egoistical ass, get your shit together when it comes to food.
Dear Dave & Shan, I do not think the approach of restricting your kids to ask many questions for them to look inward was a good approach. Kids by default ask many questions and are too young to look inward them to find the answers as they do not have sufficient data. So please next time encourage them to ask questions whether dumb or smart
Jessica C Expect criticisms if you're going to be putting your personal life out there. Otherwise don't if you're too sensitive to genuine criticism that can benefit you if you consider it and forgo your bias. You sound like a dimwitted ESFP mother. Grow Up.
Silent Seeker yeah how about if you stfu. Robby is right, not ur kids so what the fuck do you know. Gtfo for you is the best advice. Or how about you just stay silent... especially when it comes to other people’s children.
What's up with when you ask for an honest preference, get a polite but insincere "Anything's OK," follow that lead, and then learn later it wasn't OK! I don't take it as I failed, but that you had a less than satisfying meal experience because you were being pseudo-accommodating and noble (!) and didn't speak up! Grrrr! Just tell me what the chicken fricassee you real want , and then I can authentically either satisfy your desire or disappoint you. Either way, it will be real!
Moral of the story, don't listen to any Fe or Te's. They'll just tell you the standard deviation from normal, which everyone can already obviously see. The movement beyond normal is what will help you. If you're a Ti or Fi, ignore this comfortable position at the top. Fools gold rush in like a shallow stream unaware of the current consequences. .
Hmmmm.... So, have you typed her as isfp? And, I can totally see why you'd type Tom as isTp.. That said, I've seen most of his content & met him at a conference; he appears *way* more EstJ.
aop Thomas Aylott Oh sh!t!!! *DUH!* I was so busy tripping out on how you guy's typed Tom, I didn't even look/see your assessment for her 😂😳 Edit: Thanks Thomas!
@aop Thomas Aylott Peace. Please hear me out here. You guys might want to reconsider Tom. I'm telling you man... He's not an istp. He has Demon Fem Fi. *NOT* Fe. Check this video out to the end: th-cam.com/video/NCsbPG8krfE/w-d-xo.html Notice how he reacts when his interlocutor (edit: Rich Roll) mentions the word: "Techni??" Dude. I call EstJ. Watch his interview with Tony Hawk.. You'll see "wanna be" IstP alllll day. The IT thing, I submit, is an ENFJ super ego thing... Why he got burnt out on that study path in College... His opening came when? *When he found something of VALUE to grind on..* The guy frickin went to work on the day he became *RICH.* What we see now, is the well balanced version of a Man, standing in the center of his "Spectrum." Think not in terms of a lined &/nor curved spectrum. Think: Circle. Or, Mandala. He can jump in the mirror.. Tap into his super ego.. Whatever.... Whenever... his *Values* call for it. Also... I met him at a conference... He listened to me with his entire presence. Answered wholeheartedly & concisely.. Then, got a bit of an excited look in his eyes when he saw I was stoked... Shook my hand.. Then, boom. Chill vibe & to the next person. I'm certain he's Consume, Play, Blast, Sleep... Observer first (always paying attention.. With lazer like precision).. But, *Staunch* Decider. If I'm using the terms right(?). Please Objectively consider what I'm saying... Then.. See for yourself. Thanks Thomas! And, I look forward to your response!
Guys, my knowlodge on MBTI isn't that extent, so maybe I'm putting this on the wrong terms, but I guess you'll get the message: OPS needs to work on its Te. It seems to me like Shannon and maybe even both of you have Te, but the channel DOES NOT. You guys are great and you bring great content, but PLEASE make it easier for the tribe to navigate through the videos. There's no organization and no patterns to find the videos, so it's very complicated to make an ordered and profound study of the complexities of MBTI.
I'm not sure if I was able to clearly express the issue, but here are some solutions:
1- Playlists: at first, a very simple way of organizing an youtube channel. Just subcategorize the videos using whatsoever criteria would be really helpful. Now it'll be a little harder for you but we'd be really happy :)
2- Titles: this one is just something to use in the future. I love the titles making fun of the function etc, but maybe try to put them on the thumb. It makes it harder for someone who's looking for a video on that specif subject to find it.
Well, that's it. I don't know why I made a list if there were only two topics. Maybe it's because it'll be easier for you guys to read it...
ps sorry for my bad english etc etc
Marina Pereira haha, but then you wouldn’t be curious and entertained and want to buy their added content.
@moon dust uP
Te is basically about just getting the job done, right? I think that's what they've been doing. I agree they'd benefit from what you pointed out, but that sounds more like Si - labelling, organizing, sequencing, etc. As an INTP lead consume, I can appreciate the need for more Si, but my Ne is also happy to consume their chaotically arranged tidbits XD
You can pay usd $19/month to consume their very well labelled content on their website :)
They are using their Te too much. For marketing purposes, not for organizing their videos lol
De = The "Senders' Dilemma = "you need to go inward & stop bugging me all the time!"
Di = The 'Receivers' Dilemma = "stop keeping things to yourself, you need to communicate w/ us!"
Moral: Start early! becoz either way, we are all screwed! 😂
I'm savior De and I now have all the right information I need to go forward.
Is it in any way shape or form possible for me (I am someone who's really introverted, trying to work on myself bla bla bla) to be De savior? I just feel like what other ppl think of me has such a HUGE impact on my confidence that it's impossible for me to be IxxP. Like literally, I would irl tell you that I started working out to "push limits of my body", to finally live healthier etc etc, but like the reality is that I just wanted that girl to like me. That's it. All there is to my motivation. I feel like idk 60-70% of my motivation towards self improvement comes from other ppl making me feel like I'm not good enough. And idk if I am ExxJ or IxxP when I care about other ppls opinions of me like soooo much. I don't know if I'm on the right path. Rn I am trying to change behavior of other ppl towards me by closing in and working on myself and trying to become more "worthy". But like I don't know if this is my savior or demon state.. scince I was like 10 I've spent almost all my time playing videogames and watching yt etc, so my social skills are quite fucked up, and it really messed with me when I screw up in front or with other people which makes me think that I am De, but at the same time, for the past 7 years I am isolated (not literally but like super not social) bc I like to spend time this way. Like I really do care what other ppl think of me but am not willing to even spend time with them. I really don't know how would I do that either, I'm probably missing so many opportunities but this is the "you don't know what you don't know" kind of thing so I really don't know. I don't even know why I wrote this comment, altho it seem quite horribly written do I guess my De is my demon? Also does this sound like me venting out ideas or emotions? (Fe or Te?) I can't really tell 😅
@@richeeg3271 I can see a. 'single observer' quality on the way you look at yourself. I suggest try watching more of OPs videos relating to 'double deciding' and 'single observing'. Both terms are the same but mean differently from another perspective. Im thinking you are more of an ISFJ. Just a hunch though. 👍
@@johnniedilangcruz9287 @Johnnie Dilang Cruz Hmm ok. I mean when I say I am definitely Decider type, it's a sign of a possibility of being an observer type. But I feel like I only care about ppl, not things. Like I don't think I rly care much about chaos/someone controlling me. Idk, what I wrote was 100% from a demon function, so idk if it was too messy or something like that. Altho there is some stress of me not being able to organize my thoughts, maybe I might have demon Ne idk, but I feel like I've listed like a million "concepts" so idk if Ne would really be a demon. Yeah I'll watch some more of those, thx for the reply
@@richeeg3271 np.
That ending is 10/10 😂😂😂😂
If he’s asking too many questions, give him books, tell him nursery rhymes, tell him stories and poems, then YOU ask him questions, so he’ll have to be busy thinking.
I'm now basically 100% certain I have Te, the very first description of the olive situation is basically how I am with any single thing I am doing for someone else, sometimes I don't even want to make it perfect out of kindness, I just don't want the other person to change their mind and say they would have preferred it differently. I know this video is 3 years old, but thank you for all of the help you have provided me, currently trying to figure out whether I'm an ENTJ or INTJ and this channel is very helpful.
It’s normal for kids to ask a lot of questions, they’re learning. I used to ask “why“ constantly.
I don’t think anyone is saying it’s “not normal”, but for example, I grew up nextdoor to my INFJ cousin. I’m an INTP. I asked A LOT of questions - and she rarely did.
If you really Fe want to please someone and think olives are Fe valuable, then you put the olives in a little side dish. That way they can silently Fi/Ti add /eat them, or not. Fe harmony = buffet style. I guess the ‘fuss’ becomes something Se physical that way, which might still annoy some people? Do Si users dislike buffet style pick-n-choose meals? I can imagine some might think it’s sloppy to not offer a complete meal in one...
I have Si last, and I'm prolly most comfortable with the Taco Tuesday kind of setup, if the dish has those variables. Dislike buffets, tho. Quantity has pretty much compromised quality at that point.
I’m an INTP and I love having control over my food. Sometimes I like to eat things in a certain order. Sometimes I want more of one thing and less of the other.
But what I don’t like is having to assemble my own wraps and sandwiches because they’re always messy and falling apart, and I hate when Subway makes me pick literally everything on my sandwich if they already made their sandwich...number things.
Like if I say a number 7, why do you have to ask me how it’s made? You gave me numbers, I chose a number. Make my sandwich please. I shouldn’t be responsible for telling you how to build this sandwich. Anyways, I chose a number 7 because I want to try a number 7. That doesn’t count if the number 7 is a variable item. Because then if I like it I can’t get the same number 7 when I come back. Also - I didn’t research this. I’m not an educated sandwich maker. You are the person with the skills and experience. It’s your responsibility to produce a finished product and if I like it I’ll, once again, order, and pay for your sandwich.
But no. I go to Subway and I get a cheap Wordpress template delivered by some high school student they pulled out of class that doesn’t know where he is or why he is there, and I’m in charge of ordering him around to make my sandwich like he’s the sandwich slave.
Okay. So you can tell I have issues with subway. But what I would like is if Subway just put all their food items out and let me make my own sandwich. Then I don’t have to try to Fe navigate a conversation with you while I conceptualize the right way to complete this task.
I don’t like my sandwiches seasoned with social interactions. It ruins the experience 😂
For the record, my brother, who is a sensory dom that loves to cook, usually lets us choose our food items buffet style now. Every once in a while though he gets this thing where we all get the same plate of food. I much prefer the buffet style thing. When we get the same plate of food I feel like if I don’t eat it all I’ll hurt his feelings, and I know he worked hard to make that food, but there’s certain things I’m less keen on than other things and I wasn’t that hungry. So eating a whole chicken breast, for instance, is out. Yet if I eat half a chicken breast - I now wasted that foot item by half eating it. So good job for me - I suck 👏
Of course I never think this critically when people offer me delicious free food. Ever. I’m always just pleased to be fed. I am a simple creature. There’s no way I would ever go through this much effort to produce such a glorious product, but I can absolutely appreciate the end result when someone else does it for me.
Honestly just the fact that it required no effort on my part makes the food taste good. It’s like a free pass to not have to worry about a whole bunch of things related to feeding myself.
Also it makes me feel special when someone goes out of their way to feed me nice food. Like...I would never do this - but here you are doing this with your time and energy to show your affection - and I appreciate that deeply.
One of my favorite things about my ex-boyfriend was that he fed me. I put up with a lot of his bs because he actually hand made real food like biscuits and gravy. I also gained like 80 lbs, and am steadily losing weight now that I’m single and on self-feed. 😂
You probably forgot about this comment but in case you didn’t - that’s my thought process regarding this topic.
Sounds great to me, hope someone could finish the food I dont like.
I am Si/Fi (ISTJ Jumper) (to my knowledge) and i dont care how food is presented. buffet styled meals are fine, they Te work for everyone.
I love how he said algorithm like people are just on different wave lengths ,accomplishing a different goal and like you guys say sometimes speaking a different language. Lol for the self esteem thing Idk I’ve just been blessed I guess.
@a h I felt the same.
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo funny u mention music! well in my eyes there’s many reasons why people listen and how they define GOOD MUSIC. I think of it in deciders popular music(fe) awarded (te) ,(ti)beats while I’m studying (fi)music for my mood. why people listen to music is completely different. And like the guy above he can see it but “so what” lol and I would say that kinda applies to the tones like if someone like “so what” how much effect can it have on them really?
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo oh I get what you’re saying! As far as “NF stuff”! Gender identity! Like when people argue gender and sex. Ones NF ones ST. So they’re talking about two different things and on two completely different topics!
Really working on validating myself these days. Sounds corny, but I didn’t understand loving or even liking myself up until recently. Like Lisa, I have to tell myself things that other people may regard as super basic like “my opinion is valid”. My opinion is so easily swayed & drowned out by the tribe due to my need for validation. Grrr. So many times I’m like “wait, I was actually right all along.”
If I ask if you want something, and you answer incorrectly and I go off of your incorrect answer, that’s on you. I did my best.
I didn’t have to do anything for you. I could have ignored you. So when I offer to do something for you, it’s up to you to get the most out of my offer.
@Banane Wane
2 thing's I flip dual middles at:
1. Basically what you said.
2. Tangly snaggly sh!t.
Great, I'll say "Do what you want" next time.
My ENFJ wife does this to me all the time.
And in terms of food: living to eat vs eating to live
That's so messed up. When I was dating my ENFJ Girlfriend, she was like that all the time. She was such a food snob I thought. I found her to ask such indirect questions, that would constantly cause me to justify myself, and it was usually in regards to things that were so petty.
I’m saviour Ti, but I do do this a lot where I do something that I feel great about, but then I need the validation from everyone else just to solidify what I already feel I know lol
Lol! I am Fi/Ne, and when I was a kid I would always say a statement and then go, "Right?" I wanted that validation. As an adult I see myself doing it by saying a fact, but saying it in a way that it sounds like I don't know, which is kind of bizarre. Like I will know listeria (a bacteria) grows in dirt. And then I will say, "But doesn't listeria grow in dirt?" And they will go, "I don't know." And then it is kind of just left like that with them thinking I don't know, but I know for a fact that it does. But it is so hard for me to just say, "But listeria grows in dirt." I am not sure why I do that.
koi fin omg why do I see so much of myself in what u wrote? A lot of points you make like ur past and their potential reactions. You literally have 0 control over those things here and now. Even robbing yourself of potential human connection.Let your trickster throw a ball into the universe and see what u get back.
This is the "typology" validation I've always been looking for, this right here. I am Fe dominant, which has a very Christ-like flavor, so I've always been overly concerned that I'm playing the victim too much. Added with a lifetime of being "the scapegoat" in a narassistic family of domestic abuse (cops, go figure), I now have the thin string of fringe science validation that I was correct all along by loving myself anyway and living in complete defiance of my wonderfully successful/ carefully abusive family. My whole life I wasn't being a victim, I was being tortured. In a life of being invalidated, this has given me some of the most useful validation. I'm so thankful to have objective theory and to see the frequency of a truth fine-tuned from Jung to science- it is a comfort and hope going into this new generation of collective understanding.
this made me realise my ni and fe are both fine, and its my ti that concludes the negative thoughts, and its what stops me from movement, because its negative.
thank you as well for helping me realise i have such a natural fe. alot of it is probably unconcious, since its so natural to me. youre helping me make the fe moments concious, and that is so helpful!
Infj progress WHOOO ...
Yea bitch! 🤣
im intp and my fe is just inflicting so much pain to me. wayy too negative and pessimistic and needy
@@lilyluna4155 Same, but I've learned maladaptive coping mechanisms to cope. Ignore my Fe in groups and use my Ne with confidence rather than shut down and go into a Ti Si loop in the corner. It works, but I annoy people and ramble, 1 on 1, i'm solid. In a group everyone dislikes it. Thus making my insecure Fe get more validation and it gets worse. At this point I can talk people's ears off and actively listen, but as soon as I even think about Fe, or look at body language I'm convinced people hate me and shut down. If i'm in a Ti-Si loop I'd rather be by myself. And if something happens that actually shows I'm rejected during that my Ti turns to demon Fi and I am incredibly triggered and sensitive to just being there, and will go off at people. I'm socially ambiverted too so I don't want to stay in a Ti-Si loop forever unless i'm sick of people.
Makes me think the INTP stereotype is actually a damaged INTP who literally never uses any Extroverted Functions and is in a Ti-Si loop and that is their comfort zone, worse, when they're always thinking inwards the Ne becomes Ni and they reject Fe, so Fi is what they use when triggered. Thus they create an Ni-Fi loop too
Lol you guys get the best clips at the end 😂
"What I value is not fussing" -- Yes! As Consume/Sleep, others trying to rope me into their fussing is very irritating. I'm an Ne-dom, you're telling me it would be even worse if my Di was my dominant function?
As a lead Ti it is worse
It does get tiring. Once you've come up with an answer, you're almost always already sure of it and done with it, so when someone with De keeps asking along the same line of inquiry like it's supposed to change your mind and make you think about it more, it begins to feel like an unnecessarily overextended exercise. It's helpful learning about different personalities 'cause it's teaching me to become more understanding with how everyone's mind is operating in its own way.
@@ruthielalastor2209 so true
@@adielwilson8749 Yeah Fi/Ti in dom and auxillary hate having to make decisions that they're not in control of like, we don't force others to get invested in what we're doing don't get us dragged into your chaotic world of pointless decisions hahha
@@PersonalityTurtle TRUEEE
Yeah, I hate it when people cook meals for me and then ask specifics to ensure that I enjoy the meal. So inconsiderate.
... ... ...wait, what?
Yes, but when it comes to a new food (e.g. I'm trying Turkish cuisine for the first time), I have no prior knowledge or palette memory, my basis from Northern African/Greek food could be totally off. How can I tell you what I want/expect?
@@BrockMak ya like it would help to know what is in stuff. I dislike ppl asking me to taste something while refusing to answer any questions i have about the dish. I hate the haha i made u swallow feeling.
I'm an INTP, and honestly I don't care about food. Unless I randomly feel like cooking for fun, I just cram the most calorie-dense thing I can find into my mouth. The less time I spend thinking about keeping my body alive, the more time I can spend trying to figure out the things that could help humanity, like how you could theoretically create an insulated pocket of spacetime to encapsulate something (like a ship or a person or whatever), and because distortions in spacetime can move faster than the speed of light, it would allow us to create warp drives, teleportation, maybe even time travel.
Anyway, whatever's easiest for the person preparing the meal is fine. I'm rarely paying attention when I'm eating anyway.
Edit: I just realized I went on one of those weird INTP rants, and almost cut some of it out. But maybe it can be a case study for someone who wants to practice typing.
Its not that, its the underlying needy feelings of always trying to get validation from other people, even in things like cooking. It gets annoying because it looks like youre insecure and can't make a decision yourself. Manners/trying to be considerate (which is what you're describing) vs neediness gives off different vibes
@@BeinIan No INTP rant here... More like an xNTP RANT.
ENTP over here deleting half of my Blaster comments since 2013
This was great! *dances a jig* It's tough not to feel that De need... like something will be wrong if you don't 'make sure'. Make sure what? I don't know. Just make sure. *screams in existential angst*
Jesus Christ... So, this is my husband and me (I'm the INFJ, he's the ISTP), and we play these "games" on the daily. I like to sew, and he needs a good mask (because he's the one who braves the apocalyptic world we live in now), and I've gone through four different patterns trying to find the "perfect" mask for him. Last night I finished what I considered my BEST attempt. It not only looked amazing, I thought it would fit really well and was super excited. I walk into where he's gaming and wait for him to die in game before speaking (I don't want to be the cause of him dying, so I don't speak, but I DO want him to die so I CAN speak). I'm like, "Here it is!" He tries it on, says, "Yeah, it's great. Thanks." And I stand there, waiting for more.... Always. Like a fucking neurotic idiot. As if suddenly he's going to change and be like, "Holy crap honey... NO ONE has ever done anything so thoughtful and amazing for me before in my entire life!!" As usual, I started to find flaws in the stupid mask. It's utterly ridiculous. I see it after the fact, but in the moment I'm like, "Does he really like it? Does it really fit? Will this finally be my undoing?!"
Oh God, I pray to live in a world where no one asks me detailed questions about the food I want nor hands me objects.
Even worse is when they say, “I noticed you didn’t eat breakfast yet, aren’t you hungry?
I can make you something?”
WHY are you Spying on me!!!!!!
WHY do you not remember I don’t eat breakfast and haven’t for the 25 years you’ve known me!!!!
When my kids went through their question asking phase, I would answer a few and when I got tired of it, I would start shrugging my shoulders and telling them I didn’t know.
They both got me back. Now they do it to me! 😂😂
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo ENFJ with Fe/Se.
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo She's me! FF-Fe/Se-PB/C(S)
"I don't like being asked" - that's textbook Ti, maybe even Fi... but betrays a strong internal deciding function
Ti/Fi LOVE being asked because they have a unique perspective on what's important. What they hate is being asked anything that the other person could decide for *themselves* (or like in this case, something they had already defined their stance on).
Fe/Te types will NOT consult others when they feel confident that they can fulfil the necessities of others.
What are your credentials?
Devinette well said
@@hugoclarke3284 on point
No.. Infj here. Depending on the question, I love questions. I’m not the type to offer up information blindly so I ALWAYS appreciate others putting in the effort to get to know me on a deeper level. Please check your facts and stop spreading misinformation.
My mentors that still alive, even they can feel the heat. U dont even want to know what happen to freedom in thought
"Could I ask that myself"
I wish more people applied that.
Ok.. Just gotta go and dump all my De reputation into the dumpster. 😅😂😂
It is interesting to see how functions work in relationships! And I love that you put the functions on the screen next to them to help show how each savior function works with the video example. Loved the video!
Side note: I am savior Fi, so would love to see an Fi/Ti video next! Thank you!
This is really good
I feel like I don't do this, but I'm sure that I do it in some way without even realizing it
Is organizing a social event an Fe/Si thing?
It's an everyone thing, although the theoretical best functions might be Fe/Si. Really you just want hero Oe/De and you'll be popular and fine
Don’t hand me things! That’s Soo true!
Omg!! 😂 I find that so hurtful! Yes! Stop what you’re doing and take this cup and plate and say thank you and tell me how pretty the food is and point out at least one detail of the presentation! Or I will resent you! Understanding this helps.
Joke's on you cause we wouldn't want to consort with people who would resent us for that anyway.😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I just noticed I don't often like your videos because they are so interesting I don't even rember about it. Guess I'm going back in my chronology to like all of them
This is me and my mother
IxxP- I'm too confident in myself to ask others what they think about out it, but I'm still scared of the answer (or reaction), so in fact, that is the reason I don't ask others for opinions.
3:01 I'm INTP-T, but when it comes to food, I must eat first and reason later. I'll still write a review before I leave if you want, but not after I'm done.
I get very annoyed when I get a haircut and the hairdresser asks if it's ok after every snip and asks a thousand different ways how I want it. My usual answer "You're the professional. Hair grows back so don't overthink it. Have fun." I don't feel so bad now for never returning to see these hairstylists.
Value is money, validation, love, etc.
Di/e getting blurry. Can I go on?
I hate when my family is compelled to talk to me for no reason when I don't want to talk to them. just leave me alone to think about whatever it is I am focusing on, the voices in the background kill me mentally.
I’m INFJ and I seek validation of myself as a person, whereas my ENTJ boyfriend seeks validation of his work (music)
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo This indeed seems like Ne you're doing here (spotting patterns in external world)
ST report masking as intuition spotted
Haha this really helps explain Fe doms.
Wow, I hate being handed things too. I thought I was just warped from childhood or something! Like in Vegas, they use to try to hand you brochures on the street. It’s so amazing that people just take them! I’m not taking it because I thought about it and I don’t want it. And if I did accept it then I an morally responsible to dispose of it properly. And I have also contributed to flagrant waste of resources. Or unpacking groceries, Let me pick what needs to be put away next. If you hand it to me, I’m having to make decisions on the fly with each item. In my natural state, my brain will organized the items and I’ll put them away without having to think about it.
I hate being handed things too! I get annoyed by the obligation of it. Like now there is an item in my hand that I have to focus on and process. I’m an INTP and I spend virtually all day, every day, in my head. When I get handed things it interrupts my train of thought
Haha fussing breaks my spirit. If I don't like it you will know
We all have needs, and her FE needs the tribes validation, so she needs to go out with her friends to get validation.
That's exactly like me and my parents. Me:"No, I don't want that" Parents:"But... Uh why not. We also have salmon"
Me:" You and your perfectionist culture"
Me 30 seconds later: " Hmm 🤔 . Hadn't thought about that. I'll take the salmon as well as the blue cheese I saw I your fridge earlier"
Parents:" But they don't go well together on the same plate. Cheese comes after salmon "
Me: "I. Know. "
Thank you, come again.
Omg this is me and my man!! I’m definitely Ni/fe always asking wtf he’s like idk 😂
There's the kitchen just over there..
im infp, but I feel like I'm De? insecure about what others think of me, always bombard people asking their opinions on topics I am interested in, and lots of time my goal is to let those opinions get validated in the tribe. Mistyped?
My spouse hands me things that I don’t ask for. This is a pet peeve of mine. I will be cooking and my spouse will come in and hand me the hammer that they were using, like I asked for the hammer or something. WTH?? Same with handing me something that they could put down on a desk that is the same distance from each of us. I always ask, “Why are you handing me this to me?” & “I didn’t ask for this so why are you giving it to me?” Makes NO SENSE AT ALL!!
This is great.
What type have you guys given Chris D'Elia?
Where do I find this information about Saviour, Demon etc.???
What personality types are the two people talking right now?
Dave is an INTJ and Shan is an ENTJ, I think.
Good stuff!
One day these two will fix the focus. One day! lol
Constantly seeking reassurance is De? Hmm
Hey, what are your personality types? :)
lisa seems more enfj too
This may be trivial, but the focus of your camera is aimed on the background causing you, the subject, to be slightly blurred. (That is all.)
Great video. 👍
U sound STP?
@@princessonuoha79 I can see why you'd say that. That was a very "thing/logic" comment. In Myer's Briggs I've tested as ISFP. I've yet to be typed in OPS.
What's your kid type If I may ask. and if they're old enough to be typed
i honestly despise the validation game Fe people play. I respect it in the sense that it's effective, but I absolutely despise it in a feeling/moral sense. I just. I don't like the fact that they do it and it's effective. It genuinely pisses me off. Worse fact is, it actually does work. They end up getting their pity compliments, and they feel satisfied with that.
It just pisses me off. I don't get why other people can't see the game that hey buddy, you're getting milked for validation. I'm starting to just think they don't actually care.
I can't tell if I envy it or not. I hate the fact that if you call it out people will accuse you of being envious. It just. Why. Why are people willing to do that? I don't fucking get it. I don't get it at all.
As a person with high Fe, I see this a lot in other high Fe users and it pisses me off as well but what you need to recognize is that because they have Fe and aren’t even conscious of their Fi at all (at first), they just don’t know any other way to interact with people.
Sooo that's why all my friends say that I'm annoying. IT'S NOT MY FAULT I HAVE SAVIOR MASCULINE TE😂
Nico Di Angelo
It is 100% your fault and you’re 200% and ass if you use type as an excuse
iSTP and food god don't u know not to ask me anything 😂😂😂😂😂
HOLY SHIT THIS BLEW MY MIND 🤯
I have no idea what they are talking about. It’s like Greek to me. What is De?
I wish the title of this video was different. The word "connect" makes me think of just general conversations and trying to grow closer to others, and not what the video's actual topic is about (insecurity, cohesion).
lmao i always thought i was self above tribe but i related to everything she said ☠
I keep running into people who are Fe doms that think they’re Ti doms. 🤔 Especially men. I think it’s a hard thing for men to see?
@@AK-jt7kh maybe because some people perceive being a Fe dom as less than other ones :/
@@biapicf1717 indeed. There is a cultural bias that favors cold logic over empathy - but it is, in and of itself, inherently illogical.
The thing about human intelligence is that half of it stems from our ability to relate to other humans. Some of the more cognitively handicapped humans in society are the psychopaths, because they lack the ability to empathize.
I was about to go on a major rant but I stopped myself. You’re welcome!
At any rate, Fe is actually highly intelligent in a way that Ti is not. Fe is grounded in reality - understanding the fabric of society and the way that the human brain gears grind.
They are your chameleons of social situations, in my experience. Extraordinary social and emotional intelligence. Those abilities give them deep insights into humanity that others lack.
I’ve found personally that nature Fe doms also have an impressive degree of resiliency despite being sensitive by nature. They can’t cope with everything, obviously, but they can cope with things the other types can’t seem to handle.
I’m an INTP and I like to seek out intellectuals who I can share my thoughts with. I’ve befriended them, dated them, hunted them down online and engaged in debates - and what I came to realize was that one of the most intelligent, if not the most intelligent person I had ever met was the girl that grew up to me right nextdoor…and she’s an INFJ.
She never claimed to be intelligent, or tried to be intelligent, but there are massive flaws in these intellectuals I’ve met - flaws I share myself - that she has immunity to.
She sees the world for what it actually is, and she’s not fooled by the superficial pissing contest that is “facts” and “evidence”.
The truth is - we know next to nothing. We think we know so much, but the field of science, and even math (if you can believe it) are critically flawed and often lead to inaccuracy.
However what never changes is that the world we live in is Human first and foremost - and that’s where my INFJ lives too.
I can’t pretend I’m not a little bit jealous.
Not only that - but she knows things about me before I know them myself. She sees straight through emotions, social manipulation, complex relationships…man. It’s off-putting! 😂
@@biapicf1717 Sooo…there was a point to that. Oh.
I would say - get your head out of the sand and realize the strengths of Fe so you can start correcting the idiots who have inaccurate perceptions about the functions. Because, clearly, they have no idea what they’re talking about and someone needs to help them see reason.
@@AK-jt7kh first of all, sorry for the late response! So, I always get confused to which type I actually am. Sometimes I see myself as an INTP, just like you! Because there are some cognitive aspects that I relate too much. But other times, I think I might be an INFJ.
It's so weird because it's a mix of emotions. I always get tested as some type of Fi dom or, at least, a very high Fi. But, to be honest, I can't see myself as a Fi user. I don't know my emotions, wether I am happy or sad, sometimes I watch a video that makes me happy and I start laughing and I cry, not because it was very funny, but I think I activate the tear mechanism and I end up using as a way to liberate emotions, the reason for the tears is usually unknown lmao and at the same time, for me to relate to what a person is going through I have to have been through the same thing or feel some sympathy towards them. Let's use characters as examples, if it is someone that I don't like that much who is sad, I feel nothing, but if it is my favorite or one that I like, I suffer with them 😪
Also, I can't help but feel the need to help people. Even if I don't know them. I might see someone asking questions on twitter, I feel the urge to answer. Some friends take advantage of that and don't google some basic stuff, they ask me because they KNOW I will google it or at least know part of the answer to their problem. That's why I said I related to what she said a lot. I don't know if I am high Fe user or not, but I might have it on my top 4 functions. I am very introverted at first but I was so different as a kid and even a bit wild when I get to know the person, like, doing things out of the blue. This is what gets me so confused because I can be very private, not wanting to demonstrate emotions but being clingy and just wanting a friend to spend the whole day together. I guess traumas can really get into our personality.
Oh, and please, don't stop yourself, I also love to have debates.
What's the thing on her hand?
Struggle is real for us double deciders. It had became so bad for me that I had to start making a dossier on what everyone in my family wants just so I can get started on dinner.
I'm sorry but having do that it's just sooo fucking stupid because these are the same people that will complain when their food isn't right even though they do nothing to communicate that fact.
If they want treated like a bunch of goddamn feral cats then fine I'll put their publix subs on the floor in a nice silver bowl with their fucking names on it.
And seriously, if I am in the middle of making dinner, I seriously do not want to hear any opinion because it's obviously past of no return.
Dave, on the behalf on everyone that has to deal with your egoistical ass, get your shit together when it comes to food.
i thought tom was more enfj
I paid Shannon $89 for an hour long phone call so I could get all my questions answered. I'm so savior De it hurts.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 so relatable
Dear Dave & Shan, I do not think the approach of restricting your kids to ask many questions for them to look inward was a good approach. Kids by default ask many questions and are too young to look inward them to find the answers as they do not have sufficient data. So please next time encourage them to ask questions whether dumb or smart
Sabrina Islam you’re not his parent and you don’t get a say-so in the matter. You have no clue what happens in their home so mind your own family.
Jessica C Expect criticisms if you're going to be putting your personal life out there. Otherwise don't if you're too sensitive to genuine criticism that can benefit you if you consider it and forgo your bias. You sound like a dimwitted ESFP mother. Grow Up.
Silent Seeker yeah how about if you stfu. Robby is right, not ur kids so what the fuck do you know. Gtfo for you is the best advice. Or how about you just stay silent... especially when it comes to other people’s children.
Silent Seeker who do you think you are? SMH
They should encourage him to ask but also ask him what he thinks the answer is first.
What's up with when you ask for an honest preference, get a polite but insincere "Anything's OK," follow that lead, and then learn later it wasn't OK! I don't take it as I failed, but that you had a less than satisfying meal experience because you were being pseudo-accommodating and noble (!) and didn't speak up! Grrrr! Just tell me what the chicken fricassee you real want , and then I can authentically either satisfy your desire or disappoint you. Either way, it will be real!
Won’t it be easier for her because she has Ti In the middle.
can you guys tell us what the fuck you're talking about in the first place
I despise you for including that last Simpson's clip. Totally unnecessary.
Si sensors, dont seem to reach this point though...
Reach what point?
@@Timonsaylor lol.
Seriously, elaborate.
First time watching you guys and my first guess is that the guy is ESTP and the girl is obviously ESTJ
Moral of the story, don't listen to any Fe or Te's. They'll just tell you the standard deviation from normal, which everyone can already obviously see. The movement beyond normal is what will help you. If you're a Ti or Fi, ignore this comfortable position at the top. Fools gold rush in like a shallow stream unaware of the current consequences. .
Hmmmm....
So, have you typed her as isfp?
And, I can totally see why you'd type Tom as isTp..
That said, I've seen most of his content & met him at a conference; he appears *way* more EstJ.
0:47 Ni/Fe-BS/P(C) INFJ
aop Thomas Aylott
Oh sh!t!!!
*DUH!*
I was so busy tripping out on how you guy's typed Tom, I didn't even look/see your assessment for her 😂😳
Edit: Thanks Thomas!
@aop Thomas Aylott
Peace.
Please hear me out here.
You guys might want to reconsider Tom.
I'm telling you man...
He's not an istp.
He has Demon Fem Fi.
*NOT* Fe.
Check this video out to the end:
th-cam.com/video/NCsbPG8krfE/w-d-xo.html
Notice how he reacts when his interlocutor (edit: Rich Roll) mentions the word:
"Techni??"
Dude.
I call EstJ.
Watch his interview with Tony Hawk..
You'll see "wanna be" IstP alllll day.
The IT thing, I submit, is an ENFJ super ego thing...
Why he got burnt out on that study path in College...
His opening came when?
*When he found something of VALUE to grind on..*
The guy frickin went to work on the day he became *RICH.*
What we see now, is the well balanced version of a Man, standing in the center of his "Spectrum."
Think not in terms of a lined &/nor curved spectrum.
Think:
Circle.
Or, Mandala.
He can jump in the mirror..
Tap into his super ego..
Whatever....
Whenever... his *Values* call for it.
Also...
I met him at a conference...
He listened to me with his entire presence.
Answered wholeheartedly & concisely..
Then, got a bit of an excited look in his eyes when he saw I was stoked...
Shook my hand..
Then, boom.
Chill vibe & to the next person.
I'm certain he's Consume, Play, Blast, Sleep...
Observer first (always paying attention.. With lazer like precision)..
But, *Staunch* Decider.
If I'm using the terms right(?).
Please Objectively consider what I'm saying...
Then..
See for yourself.
Thanks Thomas!
And, I look forward to your response!
@@dolfdervish8495 but...no response!
just make the food woman
Funny you refer to her as INFJ because this is the most ISFJ-like behaviour I've ever seen. Drives me nuts.
Do u know who the president is?
So disrespectful
U systems in place to prevent ur kids to be smart?
Sounds like god🤣
Why do you pick the most annoying shows to use for examples? Ugghh. You two should act it out. These people are beyond irritating. Come on, TE.
Lol... “Relationship THEORY” - something u have zero time for once u have kids
Are you okay Shannon? Your voice sounds a bit croaky. Take care of yourself.