"Now, this card has quite a lot going for it. It has a very nice artwork, I quite like the design. It also has a good amount of hp for a Basic, and in the expanded format, it can put in a decent amount of work. Unfortunately, this card is a bit underpowered, as it: - Sucks Ass - Gets no Bitches - Is clunky to play - 's Attack Sucks - 's Ability Sucks - 's Defense(?) Sucks - Is a horrid abomination - Falls to the Meta And those are just a few pitfalls. It's not a bad card, just a terrible one.
i have a great sentiment towards Ho-Oh as it blessed me with fortune when i bought a booster pack with said legendary bird on the cover and inside of it there was a Darkrai GX waiting for me
Secret Wonders Ho-oh was a sleeper threat in the 07-08 Gardevoir-centric format. Psychic lock was a two-shot and didn't disable Ho-oh's 50% survival ability, it resisted Gallade, and only sporadically needed to utilize Togekiss's ability for energy acceleration. Most at the time doubted it or dismissed it as a joke outright, and while it never saw wide enough play to make a ripple in the format, it DID manage to win a 2008 regional championship in masters- I could send you the list if you like ;) Love your videos!
Ho-Oh EX was also good in expanded around Celestial Storm. You could revive it with the basic energy which would pump Rayquaza GX’s attack very quickly. A buddy of mine got top 16 at a regional with it!
As someone who knows nothing about the TCG and just barely understands the game mechanics, I really love these videos. I've watched a few vids that recap eras of the game but I find I prefer videos that recap specific pokemon through the eras. Great stuff man
My favorite Ho-oh was the GX. Maybe a little bit overlooked in the video but it shared a little bit of standard play with volcanion EX and baby volcanion. The baby accelerated energy and the EX powered your attackers by discarding energy. Turtonator was also played and kiawe was a must play. Steam siege rotated and firebox continued to see play having a really good matchup vs metagross. Probably my favorite deck ever when competing in standard. Thanks for the great content.
Another fun way to play Ho-oh EX in Expanded is with Alcremie from Brilliant Stars. The idea is that you turbo Ho-oh and energies into the discard pile with compressor ultra balls while you set up your board, using rebirth as often as you have 3 energy in your discard. Then you can power up alcreamie for a single double colorless to hit for crazy amounts of damage, all on a single prizer. While not meta defining or anything, it's a fun deck to pull out at locals or with friends that I find decently powerful.
Loved the video. Hooh v is my fav deck and second fav pokemon behind braviary. It's not unplayable in standard. Squawk and the new double energy search make it decently consistent to power up turn 1.
4:28 This Ho-Oh was actually used in competitive play alongside Togekiss which (at the time) had a Poke-Power that said "When you play this from your hand to evolve one of your Pokemon, look at the top 10 cards of your deck. Take any Basic Energy you find there and attach them to your Pokemon in any way you like. Put the rest back on top of your deck. Shuffle your deck afterwards." The deck also ran 3 copies of each Basic Energy for a total of 24 Energy Cards, along with 4x Holon Lass to help find them.
This series is a joy. For me, it gets really fun when cards from the BW-SM era comes up cause I just remember all the games I played in paper/online and remembering the talk or deck theory on some of those cards at the time. Dragons Exaulted Ho-Oh EX brought back memories of the bad deck monday streams from Pooka. Ahhhh its so much fun! I'm really looking forward to a possible Scizor or Rayquaza video!
As someone who has over 300 decks for the legacy format built and loves it dearly, I gotta say, Ho-oh Legend is not good. Ho-oh EX on the other hand is good enough in the legacy format, but Ho-oh Legend's biggest issue isn't even getting it into play, it's getting all 4 energy attached to make using it worthwhile. The only decks that reliably set up 4 energy on 1 Mon have other mons they'd rather charge for that cost
With GLC being too luck based to ever take seriously as a competitive format, and Expanded being too broken to take seriously as a competitive format, what we need is a middleground. What about Expanded but with all multiple prize Pokémon banned? I wouldn't say ban all Rule Box Pokémon - Breaks and Radiants are fine. It's the multi-prizers that are problematic.
Ho-oh EX DRX was actually best played in Expanded with Rayquaza GX, and then later saw some small success with Reshiram & Zekrom GX. The Amazing Rares are cool, but without access to turn 1 going 1st supporters, Ninja Boy decks took too much of a hit
Sadly there is not a deck on this list that should be there, Ho-oh EX + Dragonite EX. 2015 Houston Regionals; with the help of my teammates from team Mad Pullz (the minds behind Big Tex) we cooked up this deck, but I just missed top cut at 5/1/3 due to the brutal time rules that year. If you get the chance to play older formats, I recommend giving this deck a shot. Its a perfect storm of aggression backed up by solid defensive options. Its ease of putting out turn 1 attacks of 80 to 140 damage is impressive. It has access to Virizion EX to make it much harder to lock, and its lack of special energy with an ability to continually recur attackers makes it hard disrupt. The card that brough this deck together is actually Ariados from Ancient Origins which gave the deck that extra bit of ceiling to hit the critical 170 benchmark and apply pressure from the residual damage from poison backed by Virbank City Gym. Overall, its my biggest regret from my time playing the Pokemon TCG that I bubbled that day. This deck was insane and I just wish I was more practiced piloting so as to not run so close to the time limits in those games. I really wish this awesome got to see more play.
I’d love for you to do one with the 3 Legendary Beasts - Entei Raikou and Suicune. Either in separate videos or one video since there’s not a huge heap of cards with them
Cool stuff! I want to throw a couple of points towards two of the earlier Ho-Oh's that are slightly better than given credit for: The Secret Wonders Ho-Oh actually was a fairly strong threat alongside the Togekiss from Great Encounters, which frequently managed to accelerate anywhere from 3 to 6 different energy types to it. As a rare Basic-based attacker at the time its relative speed compared to the meta actually let it top some events at the time! Whilst it never saw play at its release (to my knowledge), the original Ho-Oh actually DID have some energy acceleration it could use upon the release of Expedition - Venusaur. Its Harvest Bounty Power let you attach 2 Basic Energy instead of 1 for your turn attach, so you could Rainbow Burn as early as Turn 3 in the Neo-Skyridge format. Once again this format was lacking in Basic attackers (there were like, 2 others at best), so having one that could hit 70-90 damage was actually really powerful. Venusaur was more famously paired with the Expedition Charizard in the e-card format, but I had a blast using it with Rainbow Burn in our draft series.
what are you smoking dude nobody ever played ho-oh legend with eelektrik lmao. skittles was mildly viable in 08 but pretty much every ho-oh printed has been unviable.
Was enjoying the video until it got to the point you talked about hooh legend in the legacy format. Hooh legend has never been good in legacy. It is an utterly atrocious card. Please do better research as completely false info ruins ones ability to enjoy the video.
you really FSG'd us with the "unfortunately"
"Now, this card has quite a lot going for it. It has a very nice artwork, I quite like the design. It also has a good amount of hp for a Basic, and in the expanded format, it can put in a decent amount of work. Unfortunately, this card is a bit underpowered, as it:
- Sucks Ass
- Gets no Bitches
- Is clunky to play
- 's Attack Sucks
- 's Ability Sucks
- 's Defense(?) Sucks
- Is a horrid abomination
- Falls to the Meta
And those are just a few pitfalls. It's not a bad card, just a terrible one.
What does FSG mean here? Lol
@@KilljoysDrummer17False Swipe Gaming
Imagine the Charizard video, that build up to base set Charizard and hitting with the "unfortunately" would be glorious
As someone who got into CCGs with Magic, Ho-Oh generally reminds me of “5 color good stuff decks”
along with the tradition of tcgs printing lots of garbage firebirds in the early years. Lotta bad phoenixes in Magic lol
i have a great sentiment towards Ho-Oh as it blessed me with fortune when i bought a booster pack with said legendary bird on the cover and inside of it there was a Darkrai GX waiting for me
Babe, wake up, Weaboolin uploaded another Legacy in the Poke TCG vid
Man HGSS is one of my childhood games. Rough to see Ho-oh not getting that GOATED card he deserved
Secret Wonders Ho-oh was a sleeper threat in the 07-08 Gardevoir-centric format. Psychic lock was a two-shot and didn't disable Ho-oh's 50% survival ability, it resisted Gallade, and only sporadically needed to utilize Togekiss's ability for energy acceleration. Most at the time doubted it or dismissed it as a joke outright, and while it never saw wide enough play to make a ripple in the format, it DID manage to win a 2008 regional championship in masters- I could send you the list if you like ;) Love your videos!
goated upload, promise you one of these video essays are gonna hit the algorithm and you'll get tons of attention keep at it bro
Man still my favorite ost and every remix is so good when it comes to gen 2 music
Also great vod!
Ho-Oh EX was also good in expanded around Celestial Storm. You could revive it with the basic energy which would pump Rayquaza GX’s attack very quickly. A buddy of mine got top 16 at a regional with it!
going straight to the "high quality youtube" playlist. keep up the great work
Don’t stop! These videos are the highlight of every day that they drop!!
love these videos! One of my fav series on youtube right now! Keep it going you´re doing a great job
Those Legends Cards have a amazing art thanks for reminding me about those❤
these videos are so interesting, please keep up the excellent research and insights
As someone who knows nothing about the TCG and just barely understands the game mechanics, I really love these videos. I've watched a few vids that recap eras of the game but I find I prefer videos that recap specific pokemon through the eras. Great stuff man
Idk a thing about the TCG, but still loved the video just for the artwork and a bit of history. Good work man.
Now I’m realizing crystal Pokémon are like Tera 💀
Always LOVE these videos. In a year or two I'll be able to say "i knew that guy before he hit 1 Billion subscribers"
My favorite Ho-oh was the GX. Maybe a little bit overlooked in the video but it shared a little bit of standard play with volcanion EX and baby volcanion. The baby accelerated energy and the EX powered your attackers by discarding energy. Turtonator was also played and kiawe was a must play. Steam siege rotated and firebox continued to see play having a really good matchup vs metagross.
Probably my favorite deck ever when competing in standard.
Thanks for the great content.
This is a great series, hope to see you gain more traction in the Poketubing community
This is an amazing video. Really good job. Love seeing TCG history videos pop up in my feed.
Keep it up my friend, these videos are some of my new favorites!
I adore ho-oh cause energy decks are so fun to try to make go off!!! Great vid
I found your channel thanks to this video, what a great content you provide, thank you.
Amazing channel man, so glad it got recommended to me
Another fun way to play Ho-oh EX in Expanded is with Alcremie from Brilliant Stars.
The idea is that you turbo Ho-oh and energies into the discard pile with compressor ultra balls while you set up your board, using rebirth as often as you have 3 energy in your discard. Then you can power up alcreamie for a single double colorless to hit for crazy amounts of damage, all on a single prizer.
While not meta defining or anything, it's a fun deck to pull out at locals or with friends that I find decently powerful.
10:46 my favorite card of all time. It's so much fun in Expanded the possibilities are endless
This is A+ content man, keep it up!! False swipe gaming for tcg, love it lol
Loved the video. Hooh v is my fav deck and second fav pokemon behind braviary.
It's not unplayable in standard. Squawk and the new double energy search make it decently consistent to power up turn 1.
4:28 This Ho-Oh was actually used in competitive play alongside Togekiss which (at the time) had a Poke-Power that said "When you play this from your hand to evolve one of your Pokemon, look at the top 10 cards of your deck. Take any Basic Energy you find there and attach them to your Pokemon in any way you like. Put the rest back on top of your deck. Shuffle your deck afterwards." The deck also ran 3 copies of each Basic Energy for a total of 24 Energy Cards, along with 4x Holon Lass to help find them.
This series is a joy. For me, it gets really fun when cards from the BW-SM era comes up cause I just remember all the games I played in paper/online and remembering the talk or deck theory on some of those cards at the time. Dragons Exaulted Ho-Oh EX brought back memories of the bad deck monday streams from Pooka. Ahhhh its so much fun! I'm really looking forward to a possible Scizor or Rayquaza video!
Love the work and dedication behind this type of videos! 👏
Your content rules, dude. Keep it up
I love your work thank you and keep it up brotha!
I wish they made more ho oh cards, i really wanna play a deck with him as i started playing around silver tempest
Awesome videos! I really enjoy your work, is very original the way you talk about pokemon tcg, don't give up!
This was incredibly interesting to watch. Keep it up man. This was a joy.
Let’s gooooooo another one love this vids man keep up the good work bro love your vids 🎉🎉🎉
Great video! I look forward to more!!
Looking forward to a regigigas video. Me and my UN UN UN UN ::::::.:.:.:.:.::::..
As someone who has over 300 decks for the legacy format built and loves it dearly, I gotta say, Ho-oh Legend is not good. Ho-oh EX on the other hand is good enough in the legacy format, but Ho-oh Legend's biggest issue isn't even getting it into play, it's getting all 4 energy attached to make using it worthwhile. The only decks that reliably set up 4 energy on 1 Mon have other mons they'd rather charge for that cost
Ah yes, my favorite chicken
How do you choose the next Pokémon for your deep dives??
Wake up babe new Weaboolin dropped
The legacy of arceus please
With GLC being too luck based to ever take seriously as a competitive format, and Expanded being too broken to take seriously as a competitive format, what we need is a middleground.
What about Expanded but with all multiple prize Pokémon banned? I wouldn't say ban all Rule Box Pokémon - Breaks and Radiants are fine. It's the multi-prizers that are problematic.
Ho-Oh secret wonders was actually a popular rogue deck in 2008 called Skittles.
Ho-oh EX DRX was actually best played in Expanded with Rayquaza GX, and then later saw some small success with Reshiram & Zekrom GX. The Amazing Rares are cool, but without access to turn 1 going 1st supporters, Ninja Boy decks took too much of a hit
im a little sad you didnt mention rainbow road in expanded! that was my favorite deck!
I did get a Top 8 spot in a Régional tournament with Ho-oh EX / Super scoop up
Sadly there is not a deck on this list that should be there, Ho-oh EX + Dragonite EX.
2015 Houston Regionals; with the help of my teammates from team Mad Pullz (the minds behind Big Tex) we cooked up this deck, but I just missed top cut at 5/1/3 due to the brutal time rules that year.
If you get the chance to play older formats, I recommend giving this deck a shot. Its a perfect storm of aggression backed up by solid defensive options. Its ease of putting out turn 1 attacks of 80 to 140 damage is impressive. It has access to Virizion EX to make it much harder to lock, and its lack of special energy with an ability to continually recur attackers makes it hard disrupt. The card that brough this deck together is actually Ariados from Ancient Origins which gave the deck that extra bit of ceiling to hit the critical 170 benchmark and apply pressure from the residual damage from poison backed by Virbank City Gym.
Overall, its my biggest regret from my time playing the Pokemon TCG that I bubbled that day. This deck was insane and I just wish I was more practiced piloting so as to not run so close to the time limits in those games. I really wish this awesome got to see more play.
Man I'd love to see you make a video on Snorlax of the tcg
I’d love for you to do one with the 3 Legendary Beasts - Entei Raikou and Suicune. Either in separate videos or one video since there’s not a huge heap of cards with them
Great vid !
One day they'll let ho oh break the meta 😔
Always partial to Ho-Oh, so I'm glad to hear about its TCG Representation.
EDIT: SON OF A- This is a Thanksgiving special isn't it?!
The only deck I have used ho-oh in was ho-oh V in my darkrai vstar. 4 energys into play in 1 turn is really good for darkrai vstar.
Greedent next?
Cool stuff! I want to throw a couple of points towards two of the earlier Ho-Oh's that are slightly better than given credit for:
The Secret Wonders Ho-Oh actually was a fairly strong threat alongside the Togekiss from Great Encounters, which frequently managed to accelerate anywhere from 3 to 6 different energy types to it. As a rare Basic-based attacker at the time its relative speed compared to the meta actually let it top some events at the time!
Whilst it never saw play at its release (to my knowledge), the original Ho-Oh actually DID have some energy acceleration it could use upon the release of Expedition - Venusaur. Its Harvest Bounty Power let you attach 2 Basic Energy instead of 1 for your turn attach, so you could Rainbow Burn as early as Turn 3 in the Neo-Skyridge format. Once again this format was lacking in Basic attackers (there were like, 2 others at best), so having one that could hit 70-90 damage was actually really powerful. Venusaur was more famously paired with the Expedition Charizard in the e-card format, but I had a blast using it with Rainbow Burn in our draft series.
lmao TheDexLogs yoinked this format for their recent vid
So crystal type was actually Terra
2:50 wtf that's litteraly terrastalisation
what are you smoking dude nobody ever played ho-oh legend with eelektrik lmao. skittles was mildly viable in 08 but pretty much every ho-oh printed has been unviable.
:D
Completely skipped POP Ho-oh, unsubscribed (just kidding these videos are too perfect for me to hate ever)
Was enjoying the video until it got to the point you talked about hooh legend in the legacy format. Hooh legend has never been good in legacy. It is an utterly atrocious card. Please do better research as completely false info ruins ones ability to enjoy the video.
ho-oh always lived in the shadow of lugia.
Sad because Ho-Oh is the better design of the two (although XD001 is pretty cool and should be what Lugia actually looks like)