After 2 years of suicidal depression and several ketamine infusions without accompaning therapy, i had little improvement, but after one shot of ketamine combined with therapy (having preset intentions repeated to me while under) I was 110% healed! Its been over a year since and I am more motivated and excited to be alive!
Hello, my depression was caused by a health issue with my eyes and the loss of a best friend that all happened at the same time. Here is the exact intentions the therapist repeated to me several times while I was under the Ketamine. It was a single session for me, but I was told it could take a few sessions. - You can accept the eye floaters existence - It is ok for you to accept the loss of friendship - You are able to find radical acceptance and accept this as your new normal @@carlosm9111
@@carlosm9111 ... I have had a number of ketamine sessions. Some were "wonderful" and some felt like I was falling in on myself. I found two things that changed sessions for the best: The first has been that for me, spending the day before choosing positive things to read. for me, that included getting on Pintrest and looking at Impressionist paintings, or other works of art that I find beautiful. The second has been to enter it with inner prayer... just repeating that I trust God and turn the time over. For me, this really made a difference. I am 70, and have had what seems like more than my share of difficulties. I was having lots of anxiety and nothing was helping. I heard about Ketamine, and decided to try it. It has been a wonderful help. I hope this helps you.
I just had my first session on Thursday. I used a journal after immediately and also took a few days after to meditate, did yoga, use the playlist of music played at the time, had a therapy integration session the next day. I wrote down as much detail as I could. Everything keeps making me cry because it’s so beautiful.. like music, nature etc are so so beautiful to me now. They were before, but now it’s so much more beautiful. I had such a spiritual experience during my session. On the other hand even with things being more beautiful….things like sound are more intense. Like I went to a kids birthday part two days after and it was just so loud and intense so I went home early. It wasn’t bad, but I just feel so much more relaxed, calm now that life like a grocery store or something seems like chaotic energy to me now
@@sparkely1122 I just did my 1st infusion on Thursday and got my 2nd tomorrow.. I was awake but closed my eyes and listened to binaural beats... I was aware and then I turned into this vibration noise and saw colors that I never knew existed.. then I was ripped out this reality and had an out of body experience... no words can describe it.. that's was only one session and my anxiety is hardly there.. I enjoyed going out and doing things.. life looked brighter and the birds chirping were more noticeable.. hope I'm making sense
@@ammasophia4663 hmmmm definitely never heard of it keeping someone from sleeping. There might be other issues underlining that. I hope you get some sleep soon!!
@@sparkely1122 Thanks... normally I have no problem. For me Ketamine alters me, but doesn't cause sleep, but I know people for whom K seems to help them sleep.
I am currently taking oral Ketamine for my treatment resistant depression and PTSD,,, It has been an amazing experience... I am open and available to answer any questions about my experiences with the Ketamine therapy I am using... Thank you for getting the message out there!!! Bear...
Was it hard to find a place in your area that provided oral ketamine? I am in Michigan, and it seems that the places in my state seem to be only providing IV infusions or the nasal spray, both of which are very expensive without prescription coverage.
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i believe having a trusted therapist can help navigate upcoming thoughts and feelings is paramount. I have complex PISD and i have two Spravato treatments and it has been ver helpful. I can say i've had a nice reduction in anxiety but not a break in the depression as of yet.
"I agree having a trusted therapist can be helpful. Ketamine is an opportunity to also invite our internal wisdom to be a guide and a resource." - Lana S.
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I had my first infusion 5 hrs ago. I don't think I feel any different. During the infusion I felt myself trying to push any negative thoughts away like I was trying to make myself have happy thoughts. I think I tried to hard to control my thoughts that it didn't work for me. is this possible.
Try going toward and confronting those feelings. One at a time. Dip your toe in. You may be able to “get over” those traumas one at a time. Worth a shot
"In my opinion, yes. Generally, my understanding of any altered state assisted therapy is that there is an invitation to go with whatever is coming up. However, ketamine for PTSD has not been sufficiently studied so I can only offer opinion based on my education. I highly suggest staying engaged with your treatment team and bringing these issues to them for further guidance. This is meant to be informational only so locating a provider is important." - Lana
So should ketamine be administered before rtms? I did rtms, which is what was recommended to be done first, but it didn't help. Now am undergoing ketamine. I wonder if the order of treatment matters.
I get using the anxiety ketamine can induce as part of the therapeutic experience, particularly if the person struggles with anxiety. But unless someone is experiencing idiopathic nausea in their everyday life I'm not sure of the point of encouraging someone to tolerate the nausea that's purely a physical side effect?
"We can and do pretreat nausea with Zofran. For some psychedelics, there is an argument that the nausea and at times vomiting is part of the catharsis, but I have not heard this very often for Ketamine in particular." - Lana
We may also experience nausea as a somatic sensation that isn’t a physiological symptom. The benefit of a trained guide would be to determine the difference and assist accordingly. For Many people, nausea might be a normal anxiety feeling that could be explored during therapy especially if it’s a “signal” for processsing.
I think there needs to be more focus on therapy sessions with the ketamine treatment. Especially when someone is suicidal. What happens when the patient has withdrawals? My son never did drugs. He didn't know what being high felt like. It was a holiday weekend. It was 4 days since his last treatment. His anxiety was high. I believe he was having withdrawals. His appointment was the next day. Well he never made it. He committed suicide.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm also finding it very sad that no one has replied to your comment. I am sending you much love as a person who has had loved ones commit suicide my heart is with you. May your son be free from his torment. I'm sorry if this isn't helpful I just wanted to show you some love ❤️
I'm so, so sorry to hear about your son. My mother committed suicide when I was 17 and she was 40, and I know that losing someone in this way is just devastating. There's a long way to go in developing best practices for ketamine therapy, such as better preparation and integrations sessions, along with possible support during the sessions. I've done three infusions at a clinic in Colorado Springs, and there is no support at all, before or after. I go in, they shoot me up with the drugs, I come down, I'm ushered out. I know this is not the way to do it. I'm so sorry that your son ended his life. It's particularly horrible for the loved ones left behind. I hope you can find peace.
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In a session right now.... feeling slightly loopy right now... like a slow buildup.... I can't even imagine people abusing this stuff because the small dosage I have in me now is making me feel....... ✌🏾💕💓 and a bit tired
Just Do IT 🤡 What is Just Do It? The idea that action trumps theory by a huge margin. Thinking, talking, and planning are good, but the greatest point of leverage for getting results is just doing it. Why is it Important? Without action you will not get any results. The reason you don't have what you want is probably because you aren't taking enough action.
After 2 years of suicidal depression and several ketamine infusions without accompaning therapy, i had little improvement, but after one shot of ketamine combined with therapy (having preset intentions repeated to me while under) I was 110% healed! Its been over a year since and I am more motivated and excited to be alive!
We are so happy for you! Thank you for sharing your story here!
Can you share how you framed and stated your intentions?
Hello, my depression was caused by a health issue with my eyes and the loss of a best friend that all happened at the same time. Here is the exact intentions the therapist repeated to me several times while I was under the Ketamine. It was a single session for me, but I was told it could take a few sessions.
- You can accept the eye floaters existence
- It is ok for you to accept the loss of friendship
- You are able to find radical acceptance and accept this as your new normal @@carlosm9111
@@carlosm9111 ... I have had a number of ketamine sessions.
Some were "wonderful" and some felt like I was falling in on myself.
I found two things that changed sessions for the best:
The first has been that for me, spending the day before choosing positive things to read. for me, that included getting on Pintrest and looking at Impressionist paintings, or other works of art that I find beautiful.
The second has been to enter it with inner prayer... just repeating that I trust God and turn the time over.
For me, this really made a difference.
I am 70, and have had what seems like more than my share of difficulties.
I was having lots of anxiety and nothing was helping. I heard about Ketamine, and decided to try it. It has been a wonderful help. I hope this helps you.
I just had my first session on Thursday. I used a journal after immediately and also took a few days after to meditate, did yoga, use the playlist of music played at the time, had a therapy integration session the next day. I wrote down as much detail as I could. Everything keeps making me cry because it’s so beautiful.. like music, nature etc are so so beautiful to me now. They were before, but now it’s so much more beautiful. I had such a spiritual experience during my session. On the other hand even with things being more beautiful….things like sound are more intense. Like I went to a kids birthday part two days after and it was just so loud and intense so I went home early. It wasn’t bad, but I just feel so much more relaxed, calm now that life like a grocery store or something seems like chaotic energy to me now
We’re u aware you were on K? Or were u “asleep”
@@sparkely1122 I just did my 1st infusion on Thursday and got my 2nd tomorrow.. I was awake but closed my eyes and listened to binaural beats... I was aware and then I turned into this vibration noise and saw colors that I never knew existed.. then I was ripped out this reality and had an out of body experience... no words can describe it.. that's was only one session and my anxiety is hardly there.. I enjoyed going out and doing things.. life looked brighter and the birds chirping were more noticeable.. hope I'm making sense
@@sparkely1122 I find Ketamine keeps me from sleeping.
@@ammasophia4663 hmmmm definitely never heard of it keeping someone from sleeping. There might be other issues underlining that. I hope you get some sleep soon!!
@@sparkely1122 Thanks... normally I have no problem. For me Ketamine alters me, but doesn't cause sleep, but I know people for whom K seems to help them sleep.
I am currently taking oral Ketamine for my treatment resistant depression and PTSD,,, It has been an amazing experience... I am open and available to answer any questions about my experiences with the Ketamine therapy I am using... Thank you for getting the message out there!!! Bear...
Was it hard to find a place in your area that provided oral ketamine? I am in Michigan, and it seems that the places in my state seem to be only providing IV infusions or the nasal spray, both of which are very expensive without prescription coverage.
@@renaissanceman21c not at all,,, I went through Nue Life and they ship it to me UPS 2day air...
how long did it take to work? i’m taking oral ketamine at home
i don’t feel anything but it’s only been a few days
Hi, what part of the world do you live?
Thank you, I’m about to start a clinical ketamine therapy trial in New Zealand and excited
Wow congratulations!! We're so excited for you on your healing journey! Thank you for your viewership and comment, we hope you enjoy the rest of Therapy Unboxed, we have new episodes coming soon!
i believe having a trusted therapist can help navigate upcoming thoughts and feelings is paramount. I have complex PISD and i have two Spravato treatments and it has been ver helpful. I can say i've had a nice reduction in anxiety but not a break in the depression as of yet.
"I agree having a trusted therapist can be helpful. Ketamine is an opportunity to also invite our internal wisdom to be a guide and a resource." - Lana S.
After watching multiple videos about Ketamine therapeutics, I found this interview especially informative. Thanks!
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I start treatment this week. Severe depression left of my dog who I loved
I had my first infusion 5 hrs ago. I don't think I feel any different. During the infusion I felt myself trying to push any negative thoughts away like I was trying to make myself have happy thoughts. I think I tried to hard to control my thoughts that it didn't work for me. is this possible.
Try going toward and confronting those feelings. One at a time. Dip your toe in. You may be able to “get over” those traumas one at a time. Worth a shot
"In my opinion, yes. Generally, my understanding of any altered state assisted therapy is that there is an invitation to go with whatever is coming up. However, ketamine for PTSD has not been sufficiently studied so I can only offer opinion based on my education. I highly suggest staying engaged with your treatment team and bringing these issues to them for further guidance. This is meant to be informational only so locating a provider is important." - Lana
So should ketamine be administered before rtms? I did rtms, which is what was recommended to be done first, but it didn't help. Now am undergoing ketamine. I wonder if the order of treatment matters.
Why would this be a trigger?
If someone has substance abuse history or suicidal ideation, that’s mentioned obviously when talking about this topic. Can trigger some
do you have a ketamine infusion training course I am a physician practicing in Texas
I get using the anxiety ketamine can induce as part of the therapeutic experience, particularly if the person struggles with anxiety. But unless someone is experiencing idiopathic nausea in their everyday life I'm not sure of the point of encouraging someone to tolerate the nausea that's purely a physical side effect?
"We can and do pretreat nausea with Zofran. For some psychedelics, there is an argument that the nausea and at times vomiting is part of the catharsis, but I have not heard this very often for Ketamine in particular." - Lana
We may also experience nausea as a somatic sensation that isn’t a physiological symptom. The benefit of a trained guide would be to determine the difference and assist accordingly. For
Many people, nausea might be a normal anxiety feeling that could be explored during therapy especially if it’s a “signal” for processsing.
I think there needs to be more focus on therapy sessions with the ketamine treatment. Especially when someone is suicidal. What happens when the patient has withdrawals? My son never did drugs. He didn't know what being high felt like. It was a holiday weekend. It was 4 days since his last treatment. His anxiety was high. I believe he was having withdrawals. His appointment was the next day. Well he never made it. He committed suicide.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm also finding it very sad that no one has replied to your comment. I am sending you much love as a person who has had loved ones commit suicide my heart is with you. May your son be free from his torment. I'm sorry if this isn't helpful I just wanted to show you some love ❤️
I'm so, so sorry to hear about your son. My mother committed suicide when I was 17 and she was 40, and I know that losing someone in this way is just devastating. There's a long way to go in developing best practices for ketamine therapy, such as better preparation and integrations sessions, along with possible support during the sessions.
I've done three infusions at a clinic in Colorado Springs, and there is no support at all, before or after. I go in, they shoot me up with the drugs, I come down, I'm ushered out. I know this is not the way to do it. I'm so sorry that your son ended his life. It's particularly horrible for the loved ones left behind. I hope you can find peace.
"I am so very sorry to hear about your loss. I agree with you, therapy support is crucial." - Lana
I found it very helpful for resolving trauma: therapy & ketamine session using binaural headphones with soothing sounds bouncing left n right ears
"Interesting! I am glad to hear this helped." - Lana
very interesting
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Professional type of set-up, but the panning of the camera back and fourth was supper annoying. Thanks for the interview.
Thank you for watching! Our studio was in a transitional state and this was the visual sacrifice we had to make for this one episode. If you enjoyed the content of the interview, please check out the other episodes. The rest of the episodes utilize a two-camera setup and none of the panning.
@@APNLodge Thanks! Hope ur channel grows.
The camera panning was fine with me.
In a session right now.... feeling slightly loopy right now... like a slow buildup.... I can't even imagine people abusing this stuff because the small dosage I have in me now is making me feel....... ✌🏾💕💓 and a bit tired
"I hope the session is fruitful!" - Lana S.
AfterCT found a aneurysm , I read not to have Ketamine. What are your thoughts about this?
Hmm
Thank you Dr Kong.
Very interesting!
Just Do IT 🤡
What is Just Do It?
The idea that action trumps theory by a huge margin. Thinking, talking, and planning are good, but the greatest point of leverage for getting results is just doing it.
Why is it Important?
Without action you will not get any results. The reason you don't have what you want is probably because you aren't taking enough action.