My thoughts on shorter chips and pitches with wedges (as opposed to 9iron/8iron etc.): you need to know what the bounce of your wedges are. If you are on a tight and/or firm lie, it is inadvisable to use a wedge with higher bounce (i.e. 12+ degrees of bounce). The club will bounce (as the term suggests) off the harder turf and you'll blade/top the ball. It's also possible to chunk it if you have the sole flush with the ground and the face square. Understanding how wedges are designed completely revolutionized how I select chips and shorter pitches around the green. Tight lie? Go with a lower bounce wedge and tilt the toe down so that you're using more of the toe bounce, thereby reducing risk of chunkaroos. Softer, fluffier, wetter (mmmmm) lie, go with more bounce and sole the wedge more flush and square, with the shaft straight up and down. If you want to go with a cheeky flop, open the face and get the heel of the club more flush with the ground, just be aware this tends to work better with tighter lies or if the ball is sitting up in softer/more rough lies.
As a completely new golfer, this information sounds really helpful but a tad confusing due to inexperience likely. How do you recommend going about just learning these applications in golf?
80 and in for me, also depending on the shot shape I need. Yesterday I was behind a tree needed to draw the ball into the hole from 90 uphill, I used the 56 hit the front edge but trickled through the back, grabbed the 60 5 feet in front of the green, trickled to within 4 feet of the hole. Which I’m better at chipping with a 56 because I end up short with a 60. I have good full shot yardages with the wedges, 60 at 80-90, 56 90-100, 52 100-115. Pw 115 soft usually a cut-135-140 if I draw. I might be wrong about this but works for me, I have 2 distances I work off usually each club, the fade distance and the draw distance. Play the fade if it’s at the lower end of the distance of the club, play the draw at the higher end, pin placement depends on which club also. If it’s to the right at 110 I’d tend to hit a high fade with a pw instead of going at it with 52, if it’s left I’m hit the 52 with a draw.
A great trick to prevent fat chips is to stand closer, choke down, and hit the ball with the toe part of the face. The ball will come out dead with low spin but you can pop it up quite high.
Yeah a few years back I decided to learn 60 and played it everything 100 and in. It was as consistent as my 56 and I loved it, but now I don’t even play a 60… I will vouch with very little practice my pw has become better than my sand, lob, and gap wedge when around the green. I can get it just as close, but never miss hit it (outside of the first few times playing with it). Even outside of miss hits, the spin is consistent, so I’m getting it close more often
I like my 60 for bunkers, big ass trees, and fringe/rough chips when the pin is downhill. 56 for most other chipping and getting over bunkers/shit in the way. 52 for everything else under 110 and for the playas.
You have the same wedges as my self MD ST30 superstrong wedges. I have 2 sets love them. ST30 and ST40s , also just got a set of the Older Norman Drews. Easily on feel and control with Vokey's and many other high cost wedges Very underrated wedges. . 👍👍👍👍
I use 54/60w almost exclusively these days. For the Playa's out there I recommend Full Face wedges. They are exceptionally forgiving and easier to control.
I use my 60 for full 60-70 yard shots and in the sand because we play in firm sand. Everywhere else I use my 54. Even when I need to get it in the air. I just open it up.
So many examples and only 2 I actually use my 60° for. Thanks for giving me more shots to practice with my 60. How do you guys actually manage to hit full shorts with 56 and 60?
My partial 60 degree wedge goes 10-15 yards and if I go 80 percent..max 40 yards. How the hell do people get 100 yards on a 60 degree wedge without blading it??? Could it be bc my angle of attack is steep as ef??? It goes up really high and falls down 10 yards out without really opening up the club face.
Are you opening the face? If so, sounds like you aren't opening your stance up enough to compensate for the opened face. I'm lefty too and battle this issue. Open your stance more, square the open face to the target
Actually, scratch that. They would be going left of the target if this was the issue. Perhaps you are opened up too much in your stance if they are going to the right
Hey playa I tend to use the 60 degree all the time to chip, never really developed a bump and run. Do you have any videos or links to a bump and run? Thanks
60 wedge is useless… my sand wedge can do more and do better. People nowadays are afraid to get good at opening the face on their sandwedge-pitching wedge. You can’t change the loft on a 60 wedge, as it’s already fixed and bring diminishing results. 60 wedge is an emergency club… not an approach club. It’s only useful when you don’t know how to manipulate the face of their other wedges.
"The other option is to hit it properly". Priceless!
Or be Phil Mickelson
I like the precision and accuracy of my 60 around the greens. Gets it up in the air and settles nicely.
My thoughts on shorter chips and pitches with wedges (as opposed to 9iron/8iron etc.): you need to know what the bounce of your wedges are. If you are on a tight and/or firm lie, it is inadvisable to use a wedge with higher bounce (i.e. 12+ degrees of bounce). The club will bounce (as the term suggests) off the harder turf and you'll blade/top the ball. It's also possible to chunk it if you have the sole flush with the ground and the face square.
Understanding how wedges are designed completely revolutionized how I select chips and shorter pitches around the green. Tight lie? Go with a lower bounce wedge and tilt the toe down so that you're using more of the toe bounce, thereby reducing risk of chunkaroos. Softer, fluffier, wetter (mmmmm) lie, go with more bounce and sole the wedge more flush and square, with the shaft straight up and down. If you want to go with a cheeky flop, open the face and get the heel of the club more flush with the ground, just be aware this tends to work better with tighter lies or if the ball is sitting up in softer/more rough lies.
Exactly playa.
As a completely new golfer, this information sounds really helpful but a tad confusing due to inexperience likely. How do you recommend going about just learning these applications in golf?
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80 and in for me, also depending on the shot shape I need. Yesterday I was behind a tree needed to draw the ball into the hole from 90 uphill, I used the 56 hit the front edge but trickled through the back, grabbed the 60 5 feet in front of the green, trickled to within 4 feet of the hole. Which I’m better at chipping with a 56 because I end up short with a 60. I have good full shot yardages with the wedges, 60 at 80-90, 56 90-100, 52 100-115. Pw 115 soft usually a cut-135-140 if I draw. I might be wrong about this but works for me, I have 2 distances I work off usually each club, the fade distance and the draw distance. Play the fade if it’s at the lower end of the distance of the club, play the draw at the higher end, pin placement depends on which club also. If it’s to the right at 110 I’d tend to hit a high fade with a pw instead of going at it with 52, if it’s left I’m hit the 52 with a draw.
A great trick to prevent fat chips is to stand closer, choke down, and hit the ball with the toe part of the face. The ball will come out dead with low spin but you can pop it up quite high.
This is the way
Nice. That short chip chunk with 60 soooo true. Thx Coach
I refer to my 60 as the "devil's club."
"The club that stays in my trunk"
You’re scared of the club before you’ve even got it out of the bag! That’s half of the problem!
😂👍
the club that should be banished!
If you dabble in the dark arts, be prepared for the consequences
As lee Trevino says most people can barely use the 56. Until you master 56 keep the 60 out of your bag
60 is my best club. I use it %95 of the time inside 75 yards. Pitch, chip, flop.
Key is = it is my most practiced club next to putter.
Yeah a few years back I decided to learn 60 and played it everything 100 and in. It was as consistent as my 56 and I loved it, but now I don’t even play a 60… I will vouch with very little practice my pw has become better than my sand, lob, and gap wedge when around the green. I can get it just as close, but never miss hit it (outside of the first few times playing with it). Even outside of miss hits, the spin is consistent, so I’m getting it close more often
Thanks for sharing 😊
I like the 56 for everything now, or pw if I need to get it rolling
I like my 60 for bunkers, big ass trees, and fringe/rough chips when the pin is downhill. 56 for most other chipping and getting over bunkers/shit in the way. 52 for everything else under 110 and for the playas.
I agree with you
You have the same wedges as my self MD ST30 superstrong wedges. I have 2 sets love them. ST30 and ST40s , also just got a set of the Older Norman Drews.
Easily on feel and control with Vokey's and many other high cost wedges Very underrated wedges. . 👍👍👍👍
I use 54/60w almost exclusively these days. For the Playa's out there I recommend Full Face wedges. They are exceptionally forgiving and easier to control.
I need to check out a full face wedge. Never played one.
@@golfsidekickextras I play the Callaway JAWS - Full Face. They are very strong in thick rough as well.
I really like the 60 degree punch shot to really keep it low under trees :)
🙃
Why in the world would you choose your most lofted club to punch underneath something?? 😮
@@IIISWILIII I like the challenge 😏
Probably the most used club in my bag next to the driver and putter
I use my 60 for full 60-70 yard shots and in the sand because we play in firm sand. Everywhere else I use my 54. Even when I need to get it in the air. I just open it up.
What bounce?
I keep my 60 degree because I love hitting behind a huge tree on my course. It's good for winning bets because no one ever thinks I can go over it
... great straightforward comprehensive instructions. Many thanks. John Williams @JWfit 🇬🇧
Dan Grieve: 60° for emergency use only, but.... we get in a lot of emergencys.
So many examples and only 2 I actually use my 60° for. Thanks for giving me more shots to practice with my 60.
How do you guys actually manage to hit full shorts with 56 and 60?
It takes a while to trust the loft, and I never really make full swings with wedges.
@@golfsidekickextras I guess I don't trust not shanking it so I resort to 3/4 swings
Didnt know hitting it properly was an option LOL
Short answer for high handicap players: never.
I agree. Unless it’s the only wedge they’ve ever used and miraculously are able to play it well. Even then…
Love 60 Wilson off of Amazon for $35-40 to practice what it’s all about.
No bad weather golfing
My partial 60 degree wedge goes 10-15 yards and if I go 80 percent..max 40 yards. How the hell do people get 100 yards on a 60 degree wedge without blading it???
Could it be bc my angle of attack is steep as ef??? It goes up really high and falls down 10 yards out without really opening up the club face.
I use it as a soup ladle. Stuck one in the bag over 30 years ago and took it out 29.7 years ago. There's no use for anything over 56 degree in my bag.
Intake full swings 90 yards to 60 yards out.
As a lefty I tend to hit my wedges to the right of my target. Are my hands too low?
Are you opening the face? If so, sounds like you aren't opening your stance up enough to compensate for the opened face. I'm lefty too and battle this issue. Open your stance more, square the open face to the target
Actually, scratch that. They would be going left of the target if this was the issue. Perhaps you are opened up too much in your stance if they are going to the right
could be a lie angle issue but hard to say
I use a 64 for everything inside 80 yards
You’re a savage playa
Hey playa I tend to use the 60 degree all the time to chip, never really developed a bump and run. Do you have any videos or links to a bump and run? Thanks
Just the baus at his best...GIOTG......
Who can't control the spin, you can't control the spin. 😂
What degree club is he using
60. I think.
It's hard to tell. He never says.
Never use 60°
I will only use my 60 when it is sitting up in the lie. I will never use it from the fairway with a tight lie.
I hate it when the club ruins my shot.
Don’t we all playa
Never
I'll use a 60° whenever the hell I want, thank you very much
go you!
@@golfsidekickextras And I won't duff it like you
@@JungleLarry good for you!
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60 wedge is useless… my sand wedge can do more and do better. People nowadays are afraid to get good at opening the face on their sandwedge-pitching wedge. You can’t change the loft on a 60 wedge, as it’s already fixed and bring diminishing results. 60 wedge is an emergency club… not an approach club. It’s only useful when you don’t know how to manipulate the face of their other wedges.
Sounds like it might be a good fit for me then
always use a 60 or never use one. you will mess up. If the sixty isn't your favorite child, just lock it up in the closet.
My full 60 goes 105 and I use it for basically any shot under that distance
My fellow long hitter. How do you do