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People want to throw shade on Isabella . But I stand by this queen. She was no ''She Wolf '' It was just that she got sick and tired of being a doormat. She fought back.
She wolf is a compliment in my book. They could have just said “b*tch”. She wolf demands respect and shouldn’t be taken lightly. The only problem with her is she is Spanish and we inherited our historical perspective from England. They did the same sort of mischaracterizing to Napoleon.
Are you kidding me? She betrayed her king, committed infidelity, and destroyed her reputation and family. The king was killed thanks to his “wife”. Only the glorious reign of Edward III could reinvigorate the crown like a phoenix from the ashes.
SHE SAVED HIS ASS NUMEROUS TIMES. FOR MANY YEARS SHE CONDUCTED HERSELF AS THE PERFECT WIFE AND PERFECT QUEEN. FROM THE VERY START EDWARD WAS A TOTAL SCUMBAG TO HER.
@@rraych1132She was loyal to her husband for a long time, despite the fact that he ignored her for his favorites. Having her children taken away was the last straw, I think. I don’t blame her for getting fed up.
@@rraych1132 it's you who's kidding in here exactly! He was a horrible king and a self-unaware as well. he made her life miserable and definitely earned every bit of pain she inflected on him. he deserved his ending, and so did his male favorites
People can call her "She Wolf" all they want, but she was a SURVIVOR!!!! She was "SOLD" Iike a broodmare, insulted, humiliated and shafted by her so called husband and his man toys!!!! She did what she had to do to survive!!!! And in my opinion...she is one of my idols and a heroine!!! She was an amazing woman and not given the credit and props she deserves!!!!
Edward II had the misfortune, like Henry VI, to be the mediocre son of a hero king. Although he unwisely favored male courtiers, thee is no evidence that he had a physical relationship with his favorites. William II, Richard I, Edward II, Richard II, and James I all were the subject of homosexual rumors but there is no proof except for the fact these monarchs were susceptible to the influence of charismatic male associates. Whenever a monarch has favorites, factions develop. With his favoritism of his wife's relatives, Edward IV created the same kind of jealousy, resentment and distrust.
During the reign of Edward II, the conflict between thebking and barons was obvious. And the king had his male favourites, Gaveston and Despenser. Thus the queen had an affair with Mortimer which led to the deposition of the king. Fortunately their son, Edward III restored everything back to 'normal'.
@DonnellOkafor-pd7yn lol i'm 40 and i def had my friend and gf over after i got my tounsels out around 2000 and my gf sat there and watched us play dreamcast. we still laugh bout it today. thanks for thinking im young that doesn't happen very often like before lol!
Thank you for posting these videos, i really find them fascinating. I think without them, many of these people would go on being forgotten by a vast majority of people.
At the 2:19:50-2:21:15 mark, I counted eight consecutive insults. And I figured he was unpopular, but I never thought he was so detested that, as revealed at the 2:23:27-2:23:49, only 55 men answered a 2,000-man call.
The misogyny of the time painted her a “she-wolf” but if she was a man, she would have been revered and regarded as doing what came naturally. I think she was a strong women who did what she had to, to protect herself and her children, being a woman in a man’s world… initially. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and once she was unchecked and in charge she did become tyrannical as her children no longer needed her protection, but once she was back as a player she once again made choices to help her family. I don’t think she’s as black and white as people make her out, I think she’s a complex character in shades of grey, like we all are. She’s wasn’t bad or good she was just doing what she needed, in a turbulent time, when the only thing more dangerous than being on a battlefield, was being a woman.
1:18:10 Step brothers are born prior to marriage and have different parentage These 3 men share father so are half siblings Not step siblings They are Edward II’s half brothers
@@SKILLIUSCAESAR he was the son of a mere knight. The nobility in England definitely looked down on his rank and it didn't help that Gaveston kept mocking them.
Now we know why England didn’t spread its reign, victoriously, over Scotland & Ireland Had they embraced their Alexander & Hephaestion, history would probably have turned out very different It’s funny, the way life works… and how often our greatest gifts are hidden in our greatest hate …and vice versa
Of course, the French felt sympathy and growing admiration for the "lovers" rather than their jilted husbands. Ever the romantics. Whereas in England, conventional morality would reign.
England felt little stmpathy and no respect for Edward II. Strange you tried to rewrite history in such a simplistic way. Makes sense they did not respect him as he was one of the most idiotic kings in world history and he made error after error.. There is a reason so many of his nobles were fed up with him and did not support him.
Isabella was forced to become a survivor. Regarding her affair with Mortimer, it's difficult to fault her for that. Sent to England as a child, she found a husband who showed her little affection, with favorites being given more attention and love than she ever experienced from him. Her need for what she received from the relationship was obviously enough to overcome any worry about what the outcome would be. Perhaps she expected her son to overlook the situation.
We don’t have enough info about her relationship with Mortimer. The thing is, when a woman and a man happen to work together for the same cause, modern historians just assume that they are lovers. Regarding her relationship with Edward, he did, in fact, show her affection. There are multiple accounts from the contemporaries, even some funny ones (like when Edward and Isabella were so busy with each other at night that they overslept and were late for a meeting with her father). Also, Isabella had the biggest and the most expensive court than any English queen before her. All that “poor Isabella didn’t get enough attention from her terrible gay husband” narrative is both untrue and diminishing.
@@kamillavalter dude, he fled from the Scottish army with Despenser and left her to fend for herself with a small retinue. The Scots cut them off and she escaped on a vessel but not without two her ladies-in-waiting being killed. Great "affection", let's not even mention "chivalry". Ed was already so rude to her on their wedding day that his French guests angrily left.
@@RM-uk1sd first of all, Edward wasn’t with Isabella at Tynemouth, he was at Rievaulx Abbey. He didn’t sneak out of the castle and leave her behind - they weren’t together at all. We know (there’s a correspondence) that Edward organized Isabella’s rescue; she refused to receive help from Despenser’s men, so Edward sent another guy, a French, to her aid. Edward didn’t run through enemy lines to rescue her himself, but do we really think that the head of the state should’ve risked to be captured by the enemy? It is worth noting that Hugh Despenser’s wife Eleanor was with Isabella at the time. What about their wedding, we have to keep in mind that Isabella was 13 and Edward was in his twenties when they married. No wonder that a grown ass man didn’t know what to talk about with a prepubescent girl.
@@kamillavalter A grown man and king should have known that honoring a subject (who was already unpopular even at home) more than his new wife and her entourage would not go well at all with her entourage. It was a diplomatic marriage. I hope you understand the term "diplomacy" because Edward certainly didn't. I never said they were in the same castle. Fact is that Edward saved himself plus his new favorite. His subsequent behavior towards her and how he let Despenser treat her were not just loathsome on a personal level but also on a diplomatic level. It also shows this was not a fluke.
@@RM-uk1sd Edward and Hugh Despenser were both at Rievaulx when the Scots attacked, of course they fled together. Edward never was a military genius, but to go back to Tynemouth and get himself captured by the enemy would be the outmost stupidity. He did organize Isabella’s rescue. I wonder what was she doing there during a military campaign in the first place. There’s no doubt that Hugh Despenser was a completely unhinged person who was threatening and bullying people left and right and Isabella was adamant that he was planning to kill her. But to view Isabella as a damsel in distress longing for any kind of affection from her useless gay husband (as Marlow portrayed her and almost all writers fell into his footsteps) is humiliating for both Isabella and Edward. It’s worth to point out that Edward and Isabella’s relationship seemed to fell apart when France went to war with England (again).
@user-jw7zi3rj5n you are clearly unfamiliar with the definition of genocide. Isabella, along with her predecessors across centuries, were prosecuting the Reconquista. This meant sustained warfare against the invaders (turned occupants). The primary objective was to expel them from the peninsula. With respect to the Muslims, very little has changed. See Hamas, Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda. Must have slipped your mind eh?
@user-jw7zi3rj5n you must not be acquainted with the word genocide. Which implies a deliberate and systematic destruction of a race or culture. Isabela, like her predecessors did for centuries, prosecuted the Reconquista against the violent invaders (turned occupiers). War creates casualties, but thankfully, Spain successfully expelled the Moors under her reign. Centuries of occupation slipped your mind eh?
@@ScipioAfricanus_Chris you apparently have a very lax definition of genocide if you think Christopher Columbus was a good person lol. Funded by Spain and Isabela. But maybe I read too much history
i think a lot of these focus too much on the substance of the possible relationships, and while who knows really? but for instance with Gaviston, imagine you are the son of the king, you have been told that you will be king, ordained by god. Everyone in your life is either there to use you, or kill you. You can't trust your own family, as they my try to overthrow you. You find the one person you think has your back no matter what, the only person who can take some of that fear/tension away. What would you pay for that? toss in that he was basically a petulant teen boy, i mean how many people these days do horrible things for their friends, often after their parents say "stay away". And finally, we have the 20/20 hindsight of their place in history, but these were just people trying to live the best they could, often with a lot of disadvantages, cause there rarely seems to be the proper preparations to teach these sons how to take over, a lot of times due to the fear of the father of being usurped (especially when they themselves usurped).
@@imisstheoldinternetEdward II, in fact, most definitely “wanted to be with women”. He had affairs with women and fathered at least one bastard; it was evident that he and Isabella had a loving relationship before Hugh Despenser started meddling with it. Isabella tried to reconcile with Edward after Hugh’s execution, but he refused to speak to her (well, understandably). When Isabella passed away, she was buried with Edward’s heart.
@@kamillavalter girl plenty of gay men have kids. Look at Tom cruise. Dont mean anything especially in an era where queerness was not able to be acted upon
@@kamillavalter being buried with your spouses heart was just the fashionable thing to do. She may have loved him. But he probably did not love her the same way back. Clearly he wanted nothing to do with her. Duh.
Please stop these compilations. It is a waste of time. If someone is interested in either of these they will already have listened to them/watched them. All this does is jam up the feed and the auto play with things already seen. It is infuriating to be subjected to the same video multiple times a day. In order to prevent Naxi Leadership for playing for the 100th (this is NOT an exaggeration, that video plays at least once a day) I will now be down voting EVERY compilations you put up. Love your work, hate the compilations.
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People want to throw shade on Isabella . But I stand by this queen. She was no ''She Wolf '' It was just that she got sick and tired of being a doormat. She fought back.
She wolf is a compliment in my book. They could have just said “b*tch”. She wolf demands respect and shouldn’t be taken lightly. The only problem with her is she is Spanish and we inherited our historical perspective from England. They did the same sort of mischaracterizing to Napoleon.
Are you kidding me? She betrayed her king, committed infidelity, and destroyed her reputation and family. The king was killed thanks to his “wife”. Only the glorious reign of Edward III could reinvigorate the crown like a phoenix from the ashes.
SHE SAVED HIS ASS NUMEROUS TIMES. FOR MANY YEARS SHE CONDUCTED HERSELF AS THE PERFECT WIFE AND PERFECT QUEEN.
FROM THE VERY START EDWARD WAS A TOTAL SCUMBAG TO HER.
@@rraych1132She was loyal to her husband for a long time, despite the fact that he ignored her for his favorites. Having her children taken away was the last straw, I think. I don’t blame her for getting fed up.
@@rraych1132 it's you who's kidding in here exactly! He was a horrible king and a self-unaware as well. he made her life miserable and definitely earned every bit of pain she inflected on him. he deserved his ending, and so did his male favorites
At least their marriage, however disastrous it turned out to be, resulted in England's greatest king : Edward III. Love your video on him too
People can call her "She Wolf" all they want, but she was a SURVIVOR!!!! She was "SOLD" Iike a broodmare, insulted, humiliated and shafted by her so called husband and his man toys!!!! She did what she had to do to survive!!!! And in my opinion...she is one of my idols and a heroine!!! She was an amazing woman and not given the credit and props she deserves!!!!
Thank you for uploading these two documentaries in one video.
If she didn't schemed, she would fallen as a victim of someone else's scheming.
This was the clearest and most credible explanation of Edward III's sexuality. The more perspectives we have access to, the better the understanding.
Edward II had the misfortune, like Henry VI, to be the mediocre son of a hero king. Although he unwisely favored male courtiers, thee is no evidence that he had a physical relationship with his favorites. William II, Richard I, Edward II, Richard II, and James I all were the subject of homosexual rumors but there is no proof except for the fact these monarchs were susceptible to the influence of charismatic male associates. Whenever a monarch has favorites, factions develop. With his favoritism of his wife's relatives, Edward IV created the same kind of jealousy, resentment and distrust.
Edward behaved horribly at their wedding already, to the point that her French guests left loudly voicing their disapproval.
During the reign of Edward II, the conflict between thebking and barons was obvious. And the king had his male favourites, Gaveston and Despenser. Thus the queen had an affair with Mortimer which led to the deposition of the king.
Fortunately their son, Edward III restored everything back to 'normal'.
the king is the type of guy that has a hot GF but is always playing xbox with his best friend who never leaves and sleeps in same room....
@DonnellOkafor-pd7yn what? I found that to be a pretty apt comparison
@DonnellOkafor-pd7yn lol i'm 40 and i def had my friend and gf over after i got my tounsels out around 2000 and my gf sat there and watched us play dreamcast. we still laugh bout it today. thanks for thinking im young that doesn't happen very often like before lol!
I think they were doing more than Xbox.
@@SuzanneTatham-so1jj the xbox is actually a move in an ancient book that only should be done with a physician present.
Thank you for posting these videos, i really find them fascinating. I think without them, many of these people would go on being forgotten by a vast majority of people.
At the 2:19:50-2:21:15 mark, I counted eight consecutive insults. And I figured he was unpopular, but I never thought he was so detested that, as revealed at the 2:23:27-2:23:49, only 55 men answered a 2,000-man call.
Excellent narration and content. Very informative and enjoyable indeed.
What the fuck did I spend my time listening to? God, I love this channel
😂😅😂😅😂😅😂 so true! ❤
The misogyny of the time painted her a “she-wolf” but if she was a man, she would have been revered and regarded as doing what came naturally.
I think she was a strong women who did what she had to, to protect herself and her children, being a woman in a man’s world… initially. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and once she was unchecked and in charge she did become tyrannical as her children no longer needed her protection, but once she was back as a player she once again made choices to help her family. I don’t think she’s as black and white as people make her out, I think she’s a complex character in shades of grey, like we all are. She’s wasn’t bad or good she was just doing what she needed, in a turbulent time, when the only thing more dangerous than being on a battlefield, was being a woman.
Take your feminist nonsense somewhere else.
I always feel conflicted about giving a thumbs up 👍 for these poor babies stories, however, their stories must be told if we're to learn and evolve
1:18:10
Step brothers are born prior to marriage and have different parentage
These 3 men share father so are half siblings
Not step siblings
They are Edward II’s half brothers
Good point ☝️
Three Cheers to Isabell 🥂👊
Thank you for these videos..I LOVE HISTORY 💖 and whoever is doing the voice overs 🔥❤
Thanks for sharing history , could you do a episode about ragnar 🙏🏼
Will you make a video about Francisco Pizarro in the future?
How heartbreaking id to learn how so many babies died during those years.
No immunizations. Infant mortality rates only came down in the 20th century. And are creeping back up due to the anti vax movement.
Gaviston wasn’t low born, he was a noble from Gascony.
@@SKILLIUSCAESAR he was the son of a mere knight. The nobility in England definitely looked down on his rank and it didn't help that Gaveston kept mocking them.
Watching your lovely video now. ❤❤❤❤like
Beautifull,great edit as usual.did they found the mising hiker?
Thanks
A fine video!
I didn’t understand the connection of the Israeli anthem and the subject in hand.
The DiSpencier refered to become SPENCER (ANGLASIZED) is the SPENCER FAMILY of ALTHORP, where Diana's final resting place is). Rest in Peace🕊️💜🥀
Nope That fictitious genealogy was long ago DEBUNKED -- there is no proof whatsoever.
I tell u it's hard to keep track of who was who back then bc so many people in the families .....wow!!!
Now we know why England didn’t spread its reign, victoriously, over Scotland & Ireland
Had they embraced their Alexander & Hephaestion, history would probably have turned out very different
It’s funny, the way life works… and how often our greatest gifts are hidden in our greatest hate
…and vice versa
Of course, the French felt sympathy and growing admiration for the "lovers" rather than their jilted husbands. Ever the romantics. Whereas in England, conventional morality would reign.
I do wonder if the English populace and nobles harbored the same feelings about the adultery of kings, and males in general 💬
England felt little stmpathy and no respect for Edward II. Strange you tried to rewrite history in such a simplistic way. Makes sense they did not respect him as he was one of the most idiotic kings in world history and he made error after error.. There is a reason so many of his nobles were fed up with him and did not support him.
You are Hilarious! Keep up the good work
Crawling from th e wreckage. Dave Edmonds
Isabella was forced to become a survivor. Regarding her affair with Mortimer, it's difficult to fault her for that. Sent to England as a child, she found a husband who showed her little affection, with favorites being given more attention and love than she ever experienced from him. Her need for what she received from the relationship was obviously enough to overcome any worry about what the outcome would be. Perhaps she expected her son to overlook the situation.
We don’t have enough info about her relationship with Mortimer. The thing is, when a woman and a man happen to work together for the same cause, modern historians just assume that they are lovers.
Regarding her relationship with Edward, he did, in fact, show her affection. There are multiple accounts from the contemporaries, even some funny ones (like when Edward and Isabella were so busy with each other at night that they overslept and were late for a meeting with her father). Also, Isabella had the biggest and the most expensive court than any English queen before her.
All that “poor Isabella didn’t get enough attention from her terrible gay husband” narrative is both untrue and diminishing.
@@kamillavalter dude, he fled from the Scottish army with Despenser and left her to fend for herself with a small retinue. The Scots cut them off and she escaped on a vessel but not without two her ladies-in-waiting being killed. Great "affection", let's not even mention "chivalry".
Ed was already so rude to her on their wedding day that his French guests angrily left.
@@RM-uk1sd first of all, Edward wasn’t with Isabella at Tynemouth, he was at Rievaulx Abbey. He didn’t sneak out of the castle and leave her behind - they weren’t together at all. We know (there’s a correspondence) that Edward organized Isabella’s rescue; she refused to receive help from Despenser’s men, so Edward sent another guy, a French, to her aid. Edward didn’t run through enemy lines to rescue her himself, but do we really think that the head of the state should’ve risked to be captured by the enemy?
It is worth noting that Hugh Despenser’s wife Eleanor was with Isabella at the time.
What about their wedding, we have to keep in mind that Isabella was 13 and Edward was in his twenties when they married. No wonder that a grown ass man didn’t know what to talk about with a prepubescent girl.
@@kamillavalter A grown man and king should have known that honoring a subject (who was already unpopular even at home) more than his new wife and her entourage would not go well at all with her entourage. It was a diplomatic marriage. I hope you understand the term "diplomacy" because Edward certainly didn't.
I never said they were in the same castle. Fact is that Edward saved himself plus his new favorite. His subsequent behavior towards her and how he let Despenser treat her were not just loathsome on a personal level but also on a diplomatic level. It also shows this was not a fluke.
@@RM-uk1sd Edward and Hugh Despenser were both at Rievaulx when the Scots attacked, of course they fled together. Edward never was a military genius, but to go back to Tynemouth and get himself captured by the enemy would be the outmost stupidity. He did organize Isabella’s rescue.
I wonder what was she doing there during a military campaign in the first place.
There’s no doubt that Hugh Despenser was a completely unhinged person who was threatening and bullying people left and right and Isabella was adamant that he was planning to kill her. But to view Isabella as a damsel in distress longing for any kind of affection from her useless gay husband (as Marlow portrayed her and almost all writers fell into his footsteps) is humiliating for both Isabella and Edward.
It’s worth to point out that Edward and Isabella’s relationship seemed to fell apart when France went to war with England (again).
Well,she was the daughter of The Iron King 😎
Hard to blame Isabella for rebelling against Ed 2
Could you please do a video about the legendary Dr. Buckaroo Banzai?
Video on Erwin Rommel?
Alfred tennsin is related Edward.and Isabelle. Our ancestors. Cool fact❤❤
Isabella of France was certainly no Isabela of Spain
You really must not know a lot about Isabela of Spain then huh. All the genocide and torture just slipped you mind?
@user-jw7zi3rj5n you are clearly unfamiliar with the definition of genocide. Isabella, along with her predecessors across centuries, were prosecuting the Reconquista. This meant sustained warfare against the invaders (turned occupants). The primary objective was to expel them from the peninsula. With respect to the Muslims, very little has changed. See Hamas, Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda. Must have slipped your mind eh?
@user-jw7zi3rj5n you must not be acquainted with the word genocide. Which implies a deliberate and systematic destruction of a race or culture. Isabela, like her predecessors did for centuries, prosecuted the Reconquista against the violent invaders (turned occupiers). War creates casualties, but thankfully, Spain successfully expelled the Moors under her reign. Centuries of occupation slipped your mind eh?
@@imisstheoldinternetyou are clearly unfamiliar with the meaning of genocide.
@@ScipioAfricanus_Chris you apparently have a very lax definition of genocide if you think Christopher Columbus was a good person lol. Funded by Spain and Isabela. But maybe I read too much history
Really great video. The background music is rather distracting. Really takes away from the beautiful narration.
Mmm the perfect ending
i think a lot of these focus too much on the substance of the possible relationships, and while who knows really? but for instance with Gaviston, imagine you are the son of the king, you have been told that you will be king, ordained by god. Everyone in your life is either there to use you, or kill you. You can't trust your own family, as they my try to overthrow you. You find the one person you think has your back no matter what, the only person who can take some of that fear/tension away. What would you pay for that? toss in that he was basically a petulant teen boy, i mean how many people these days do horrible things for their friends, often after their parents say "stay away". And finally, we have the 20/20 hindsight of their place in history, but these were just people trying to live the best they could, often with a lot of disadvantages, cause there rarely seems to be the proper preparations to teach these sons how to take over, a lot of times due to the fear of the father of being usurped (especially when they themselves usurped).
She was the bastard Queen of England but the bastard said The bastard's son the Crown Prince
🐺🐺🐺
She wasn't a very loyal sister.
I mean he was gay and disrespectful soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
How much loyalty can you have to a husband that doesn’t even want to be with women lol
@@imisstheoldinternetEdward II, in fact, most definitely “wanted to be with women”. He had affairs with women and fathered at least one bastard; it was evident that he and Isabella had a loving relationship before Hugh Despenser started meddling with it. Isabella tried to reconcile with Edward after Hugh’s execution, but he refused to speak to her (well, understandably). When Isabella passed away, she was buried with Edward’s heart.
@@kamillavalter girl plenty of gay men have kids. Look at Tom cruise. Dont mean anything especially in an era where queerness was not able to be acted upon
@@kamillavalter being buried with your spouses heart was just the fashionable thing to do. She may have loved him. But he probably did not love her the same way back. Clearly he wanted nothing to do with her. Duh.
Și eu care credeam că este film....😮
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Never lovers. E2 was gay.
Please stop these compilations. It is a waste of time. If someone is interested in either of these they will already have listened to them/watched them. All this does is jam up the feed and the auto play with things already seen. It is infuriating to be subjected to the same video multiple times a day. In order to prevent Naxi Leadership for playing for the 100th (this is NOT an exaggeration, that video plays at least once a day) I will now be down voting EVERY compilations you put up. Love your work, hate the compilations.
Just block the channel
Good God get over it! And BTW stop your Narcissistic tantrum!! I down voted you!!
@@Contessa6363lol dang get him
@@Contessa6363well… I upvoted YOU 😂
The balls on some ppl. I can’t…
You don’t run this channel 😂