The wreck of the John Craig when a Great Lakes shipwreck doesn't end with the disaster itself

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
  • Sometimes the after effect of a shipwreck is more interesting than the actual wreck. In this video we'll see a good example of that as we follow the events step by step from disaster to reresection to disaster and another disaster.

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  • @leclairj31
    @leclairj31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wes, Thank you for all you do here. I let your voice of old times soothe me when the world seems to be at it's worst. You're an encyclopedia of shipping on our great lakes. I reach for your books every time I am at some little gift shop of the coast lines you talk about ❤

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are my favorite viewer... for today, anyhow.

  • @twotalljones4790
    @twotalljones4790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wes, what a great story.Thank`s

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @don66hotrod94
    @don66hotrod94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing effort to save that boat. Thanks for sharing this story, Wes.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy that you liked it!

  • @marykayeweinmann6783
    @marykayeweinmann6783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unique photos of damage and repairs. Fascinating! (as usual) Great story.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks again!

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great episode Wes, thank you.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @ericcriteser4001
    @ericcriteser4001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Really glad I discovered your channel. I've really been enjoying it all. Especially these historic breakdowns. Really great. Thank you for sharing.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the good comment!

    • @roderickcampbell2105
      @roderickcampbell2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Eric. Good to hear. I recommend the books too. Regards.

    • @thescotishtwins9106
      @thescotishtwins9106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roderickcampbell2105 Aye! Are You pretending To Be W.Wes?

    • @karlsasgen8739
      @karlsasgen8739 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@authorwes 3³

  • @rongreen8485
    @rongreen8485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting how she came back then settled down for good. Appreciate the history of these hard working men of the sea and the ships. I like your channel thanks for sharing.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching

  • @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
    @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As an Isle Royale shipwreck fan, I hear about the tugs James Whalen and Favorite a lot. They sure we're on scene to a ton of historical events! 👍

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There were actually 2 different FAVORITE wrecking tugs. The one in the video was the first.

  • @kimfleury
    @kimfleury 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really interesting stuff. My grandmother was born in a little house not far from the Griswold St. dock. She was barely 2 years old when the 1906 storm blew through. I like listening for little connections like that in your videos. It's neat to think of my forebears being witness to these events, if not eyewitnesses then at least they might have heard the recounting from sailors come ashore. My grandmother's dad worked for a marine provisions supplier in Port Huron.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found that in 1902 whoever the Port Huron Tribune's marine reporter was, he was really into the little details around the region. He followed the CRAIG events very closely, to a point that is pretty rare for papers in those days. I only showed about half of what was published. It was fun just reading the stuff.

  • @JohnDavies-cn3ro
    @JohnDavies-cn3ro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a really well presented and narrated story. Ships like the 'Craig' and the 'Favourite' are of designs unknown in Britain, which makes them so interesting, and the rare (presumably insurance company?) photos are particularly fascinating.

  • @1111111idiot
    @1111111idiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great story Wes. The research you must have done....
    I can only imagine those sailors in the woods "camping out".
    And the cook probably having some meat taken ashore with them to eat.
    Those sailors back then had no trouble making a fire to keep warm with. (I expect)

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds good to me.

  • @haroldadelman1130
    @haroldadelman1130 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great story! Thanks, Wes!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @danzmitrovich6250
    @danzmitrovich6250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a very good story and show great lake worries is a very good show that shows what the waters on the great lakes are like and even when they need to tow in two barges and on tug boat to the junkyard docks

  • @vancemarin8022
    @vancemarin8022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a well researched and complete story !! 👍👍👍

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks!

  • @4sl648
    @4sl648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If there is information about that wrecker tug favorite that would be an interesting topic. Thanks, this episode was very interesting.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm working on a video about the two FAVORITEs

    • @hirisk761
      @hirisk761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's gonna be a great video!

  • @phillipaspinall8745
    @phillipaspinall8745 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the format, very easy to watch

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!! Format wise... I'm just makin' it up as I go along.

  • @jamesthompson8008
    @jamesthompson8008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! This approach to the subject is an interesting perspective, certainly not though of by most. Thanks for choosing it!
    Man, that damage though- OOOF.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes indeed. The worst part was probably removing that corn.

  • @davidkalbacker6033
    @davidkalbacker6033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrific presentation, great twists in the story and the Google earth zoom in was a perfect ending. Kudos to you my friend .

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @randyclyde4939
    @randyclyde4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many thanks, Wes! Another very interesting video and history lesson!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure!

  • @atwoodbowden4945
    @atwoodbowden4945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great adventure/story. I enjoy your perspective on a subject that im distantly drawn to. Great story teller! I also enjoy chasing such rabbits down holes in this crazy world in order to take a mental break and enjoy history. Thanks!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much!

  • @leehanna4929
    @leehanna4929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are always so entertaining and informative! Thanks much!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My pleasure!

  • @aceadman
    @aceadman ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great. Really enjoyable. Well told. 😊👍👍

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @runninggirl2765
    @runninggirl2765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK you for this wonderful video. You have gotten a new subscriber. P.S. Yakima is pronounced Ya kee ma. Town in WA State. No worries, another history channel really massacred this Washington State town name: Puyallup.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for subbing!

  • @EthanCollier01
    @EthanCollier01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you said “rotting and sprouting corn” I immediately held my breath.. lol we work on some ethanol plant equipment from time to time and after the corn dust gets wet… it is a FOUL smell.. we work with all the doors open hopefully on a breezy day!

  • @ringding1000
    @ringding1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A well told amazing story!

  • @1Long2Short
    @1Long2Short 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:58 That’s a fantastic photograph. Do you know where it was taken?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably Buffalo. It resides in the Library of Congress

  • @mikepierce1724
    @mikepierce1724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awsome job I'm glad I found this

  • @tomhenkel2311
    @tomhenkel2311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @Kathleensailorgirl
    @Kathleensailorgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting history thanks for sharing 👍👏👏

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching

  • @justdestruction4675
    @justdestruction4675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video by the way at what bean length for your rc ships become balanced because I am trying to build one using your vids. I do not want to build a rc ship that will capsize and sink lol

  • @IntrepidMilo
    @IntrepidMilo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video.

  • @Halfstep2024
    @Halfstep2024 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s so amazing to me that the tug crew was able to save her with that amount of damage. And it’s truly sad that even when they pulled off the impossible getting paid was just as difficult then as it is now.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep!

  • @maus7030
    @maus7030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Vids keep them up

  • @BenBlodgett-mg7wz
    @BenBlodgett-mg7wz ปีที่แล้ว

    Wes, I may have missed it, but the ship lists vermillion and then fairport under her name - are these referring to the Ohio ports ?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I can tell- yes

  • @TK-ri7pl
    @TK-ri7pl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only complaint I have about Wes's videos.....they're to short.
    Kinda like a favorite song.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By TH-cam standards 6 min. is the best... I'm normally double that.

    • @TK-ri7pl
      @TK-ri7pl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@authorwes Indeed, perhaps it was poorly worded, but meant as a compliment.
      Keep 'em coming

  • @zeusapollo8688
    @zeusapollo8688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good looking vessel

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She had some lines for sure.

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads1982 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lake Freighters certainly come in many different Pilothouse & Cabin Arrangements.
    Some freighters have Very small Boxy Pilothouses, some have Small Cylindrical Pilothouses high up and in-front of the Bow Cabins. Some have Small Cylindrical Pilothouses atop the Bow Cabins, others have Larger Pilothouses on top of the Cabins. Some have more cabins, some have less.
    Lake Freighters truly are each individually very unique among each other.
    The only common similarity was their arrangement of Pilot House Forward & Engine Cabins Aft.

  • @justdestruction4675
    @justdestruction4675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep
    going love the vids

  • @FrankHeuvelman
    @FrankHeuvelman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never understood why all the great lakes ships had their wheel house at the bow of the ship. I mean, the bow section is the most uncomfortable place on a ship during a storm.
    Can someone explain that to me? There are loads of reasons why you build your wheel house astern or midships.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      See this video... th-cam.com/video/97rDSMkjDKc/w-d-xo.html

    • @twotalljones4790
      @twotalljones4790 ปีที่แล้ว

      Visibility mabey ?

    • @FrankHeuvelman
      @FrankHeuvelman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twotalljones4790
      Radar beats the eye at all fronts.
      And vision? When you've been at sea, you know that the bow section always gets the most downdraft to handle and that can be a lot. You can look whatever you want but you'll hardly see anything.

    • @FrankHeuvelman
      @FrankHeuvelman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@authorwes
      Well, all arguments considering, I _still_ think that placing your wheelhouse at the bow is a stupid idea.
      No offense.
      Greetz from Amsterdam.

  • @historyduck4402
    @historyduck4402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on the ss valley camp.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably after the next time I visit her... which should be this summer.

    • @historyduck4402
      @historyduck4402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@authorwes ok thanks

  • @justdestruction4675
    @justdestruction4675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13 sec after put on I clicked on it lol

  • @StephenMortimer
    @StephenMortimer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is Yaki-ma .. I was born there !!

    • @kimfleury
      @kimfleury 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The names of ships are often pronounced incorrectly -- or rather, _differently_ than the correct pronunciation of the place name. But then again, place names are often pronounced differently than what we think they're named for. Take Cairo, Illinois, for example. It's pronounced like "care row." Or Chili, New York. Both of the /i's/ are long and the /ch/ is hard - "ch-eye-lie." Then there's Presque Isle, Pennsylvania vs. Presque Isle, Michigan. The Pennsylvanians anglicized the pronunciation to "presk aisle," while Michiganders retained the fast French pronunciation, "press keel." Feel free to shift the accented syllable as the French do. If you say it slowly, it's "press keh(r) eel." Getting back to the pronunciation of Chili, New York, the reason the /i's/ are long is because of anglicization. Back in the late 1800s and early 1900s, they pronounced "Maria" like we pronounce "Mariah." Lima became "lie ma," Yakima became "ya-kī-ma," and so on.

    • @StephenMortimer
      @StephenMortimer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kimfleury sorry.. but it is an INDIAN (native american) tribe.. and YOU CANNOT mess with that in 2022 (especially if ya VOTED BIDEN) (which I DID NOT)

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All I can say is I've been married to a Japanese woman for 33 years, so I just do my best. Thanks for the root of the name! I'll try and use it in another video, so I can correct myself.

  • @brianstabile165
    @brianstabile165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish we didn’t scrap those old steam boats,make em go out with there hull almost intact

  • @velezdragon3574
    @velezdragon3574 ปีที่แล้ว

    So interesting that she has two funnels why is that?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  ปีที่แล้ว

      More draft for the boilers. Double funnels were fairly common.

  • @caseyjones0113
    @caseyjones0113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️

  • @johncraig9869
    @johncraig9869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, broken old fart like me would have the same name

  • @justdestruction4675
    @justdestruction4675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @flamebroiledsquirrel
    @flamebroiledsquirrel ปีที่แล้ว

    Craig's sister ship, the Yah-Kih-Ma, not Ya-Ky-Ma, named after my childhood hometown, named for the local tribe, who now spell it "Yakama". PNW indigenous names are almost as bad as Thai and Cambodian names to pronounce, aren't they? 😉

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are only about the 20th to nit-pick my pronunciation of that. Funny how two weeks of research and production gets degraded down to that single name... by people who cannot pronounce my name.

    • @flamebroiledsquirrel
      @flamebroiledsquirrel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@authorwes and responding to criticism like a petulant Omega male benefits you how? Here's another perspective: learn to laugh at yourself, the native name thing is funny because EVERYONE does it. Cheers🍻

  • @MADKIWI
    @MADKIWI ปีที่แล้ว

    2 maritime rules you dont break. Rename a sunken boat thats been raised...

  • @larryborkstrom3580
    @larryborkstrom3580 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't for bad luck she wouldn't had any

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You hit that one right on the spike