Finally, while it's nice to see Darkness tries to do new content for the channel, it's usually nice to see a video that fits to the old roots of the original channel did months ago
The malbone street S curve had only just been put into service. At the time, Brighton Line service ran to and from Park Row terminal via the Brooklyn Bridge and the Fulton Street elevated. The S curve was to allow the two track subway under Flatbush Avenue to connect the Brighton line to the Manhattan Bridge and the Broadway line. The curve is still there, but is not in everyday use for passenger trains. A switch was installed and normal Franklin shuttle service uses the northbound platform.
@alexhajnal107 ok for starters, there's 4 trains in total. 2 run during the day, the 3rd one sits at the end of the platform as a spare, and the 4th one is in the yard. Now at nights, only one of the trains is used, and they park the 2nd one on the same track right behind the 3rd one. What they do is that it'll run regular service to Botanic Garden, then go down via the Malborne curve (still in service) and discharges the people on that platform and that one is done for the night. When the morning comes they'll take that same train (or the spare, either one) and take that out south of the station and re-enter from the other side. I've brought a train through there before, there's signs on the wall at the location of the wreck talking about it
It’s always sad when there’s a train wreck, you loose lives, money, supplies, locomotives, and rolling stock. Scariest of all, some accidents can actually devastate entire cities! 😨
@@levidarling5107 yea, it is sad especially when the wreck is a famous train or famous rolling stock like the freedom train cars or some other cars that were used in a movie or something.
Yknow, we've heard about all these accidents but I don't think I've ever seen Darkness talking about one in particular that had a massive impact on rail safety procedures. The Armagh Rail Disaster of 1889 is basically why half the world mandates air brakes on their trains these days, yet for some reason not that many people talk about it.
For those who don’t know or are wondering, the wreck of 1918 happened on July 9th. This is content that I missed the most even though I like how he is trying find new content for the channel
Some more details on the Great Train Wreck of 1918 in Nashville. I live within walking distance of the same rail line, which is the main Memphis-Nashville line for CSX. The site of the wreck is just a couple of miles up the road. Darkness pretty much summed up the events pretty well. The site of the wreck is called “Dutchman’s Curve” because at the time, the impact site was at the middle of a double blind “S” curve. So not only did multiple failures put the two trains on the same track in the same block, but they came together at the worst possible place since neither engineer had any time to stop their trains….they just didn’t see each other. In addition to every doctor and mortician coming from miles to help the effort, local butchers came too to help process the mangled bodies. The biggest share of fatalities came from the African American passengers. This was the Jim Crow south and trains were segregated, with black passengers relegated to the older wooden carriages near the locomotives where white passengers rode in the steel cars toward the rear. So those cars were largely intact on both trains after the accident. There is a memorial to the victims of the wreck and it is easy to visit. At the time, the wreck was in a rural part of the west side of the county but now it sits behind a hospital and supermarket. There is a greenway for joggers and bikers which leads past the memorial and there is a resting bench, some train axels and a marker. Above you are the remains of an overpass to bridge a nearby creek. The actual CSX line is within a short distance in sight…in the years after the crash, the double blind curve was straightened to give a better line of sight. As for the Nashville, Chattanooga and St. Louis Railway, the line had been acquired by rival Louisville and Nashville in 1901 but wasn’t fully merged until 1960. Unrelated to the accident, NC&St.L #576 which was a park preserved “Dixie” has been undergoing restoration by Nashville Steam LLC for the last five years. It is hoped to be under its own power for the first time since 1956 by the end of 2025.
There was no corraboration that Brodie was instructed to arrive in Spencer, NC on time. In fact this allegation was denied by Southern Management. Based on my experience no engineer would be given orders to disregard safety rules. The site of the wreck was stillhouse trestle that was on a curve with a 5 mph. slow order. According to a nearby resident who was incidentally an employee of Southern heard the train descending the grade he estimated speed to be about 35 mph. For some reason the 97 had lost air when it entered the curve the locomotive derailed taking the train with it into the ravine. By the time the employee could get to the scene the wreck had occurred. This was told me by those present at time of the comment that were later at the scene. The Southern employee menitioned above was my Great Grandfather. Thanks
The Getå disaster of 1918 led to intense research that made Sweden a world leader in geology. F 1200 is the star of the national railroad museum. On the 100th anniversary of the disaster, she pulled a memorial train to and from Norrköping, and made a ceremonial stop at the accident site at the time of the derailment, blowing her whistle.
The Swedish state railway had an unique designation scheme for their steam locomotives. The number on the locomotive doesn't say anything about the class butt in wich timeframe it was put into service. (nrs1000 1910-1911, nrs1100 1911-1913, nrs1200 1913-1916, nrs1300 1916-1919 and nrs1400 1919-1922) SJ main steamlocomotive classes have letters like A, B, E, F and S f.e mentioned 1200 in this video was a F class, 1219 and 1220 are B class locomotives
25:19 If that's the conductor on any train I'm on I'm getting off! Looks like the kind of guy with oversized gold chains, one too many drinks in his system, and worrisome relations with females; the fur collars are the icing on the cake!
The Malbone Street Wreack:Lusiano was absolutly not at falt he was not trained properly and i agree he only took that train out through fear of loosing his job he sould never have been put in that situation and the falt lies with B.R.T.
IIRC Lusiano was offered a sizable bonus for driving the train. Still, he undoubtedly felt pressured to drive it and I'd say the blame firmly rests on the BRT.
It is crazy to see how many of these tragedies were caused by flaunting safety because of human greed. So many lives lost just to try and put more money in some railroad boss' pockets.
@@alexstansberry3950 20 years later mail went by open cockpit airplanes without proper navigation instruments, resulting in the loss of hundreds (?) of pilots.
Ashtabula Ohio, Angola New York, Prospect Station New York (near Portland in Chautauqua County). All within a couple hours drive from me. (All within the lake effect blizzard area currently ongoing.)
December 18, 1867 "The Angola Horror" in Angola, Erie County, New York, where 2 passenger cars derail on a bridge and roll down an embankment, and burn, killing 49. December 24, 1872, in the Town of Portland, Chautauqua County, New York, where 2 passenger cars derail and tumble off a bridge, and burn, killing 30. December 29, 1876, The Ashtabula Horror", in Ashtabula Ohio, where a bridge collapses as a train is crossing it plunging it into the frozen creek 70 feet below. Several passenger cars burn, resulting in the deaths of approximately 92.
That was a horrific accident, to this day the worst rail accident in British history, and possibly the worst day of the Royal Scots, now part of the Royal Regiment of Scotland.
33:50 I have to wonder how many people were ignorant enough to say that this meant the unions were at fault for the accident, instead of the corporation that put an untrained man at the helm of a whole a$$ train.
In later years, one location would have 2 wrecks , almost 72 years apart. On 9/06/1943, the Pennsylvania Railroad's Advance Congressional was slowing for a curve at Frankford Junction, in the Harrowgate section of Philadelphia, when a journal box failed while a train was approaching a curve at 50 MPH(80 KPH), and the 7th car, where the failed journal box was, derailed, shot upward, and hit a signal bridge, derailing the 9 cars behind, and fortunately not impacting the Frankford Elevated structure., which ran over the PRR line. There would be 79 fatalities. On May 12, 2015, Amtrak train 178 would derail on the curve I mentioned regarding the 1943 wreck. This time, the train went into a 50 MPH curve at 105 MPH, with the electric vehicle going well off the tracks, staying upright, and coming to rest perilously close to some tanker cars. The rest of the train also came off the rails, with the first passenger car being all but obliterated. Somehow, only 8 passengers died in this crash, though there were many injuries. The train's driver may have a case of situational unawareness, not realizing he was running his train WAY too fast for track conditions, and when he realized where he was, it was too late.
The Granville loco 4620 was! found to be faulty it had come off the tracks 2 times prior to the Granville disaster so Granville was the 3rd time it had come off the tracks now what was faulty was the warn front wheels that the labour government had swept under the table because they had already allocated millions to fix the trackage but to fix the trains as well would have cost the labour government millions more that they didnt have, Murry farquhar the judge that leaned on the coroner tom weir to ignore the evidence on the the locos wheels, was convicted to 4 and a half years prison in 1985 for perverting the course of justice for 2 incidents not related to Granville but was found to have perverted the course of justice into Granville as well 9:28
The combined speed crash is not correct. Its the speed you are going for the speed of the collision. Mythbusters did a episode on this subject. I can't think of what it's called for the speeds involved with collisions. It comes down to the speed you qre in control of at the speed of the collision you're in. And it's the speed of the other vehicles speed is the speed that the vehicle is running. It's not a combined speed.
Yep, I start here. The place in sweden called Getå, is pronounced [Jeto](think star wars names). I know, when english speaking people comes here and hear we speak and try to learn on how it's pronounced, they finally say WTF, this language is impossible and it's probably is for Americans, because i have never heard anyone speak our language without having serious difficulties even after a couple of years 🤣🤣🤣🤣
..And we have something more.. all town names with the name "-Köping" is pronounced.. "kö" is like you say the word "shirpa" and take out the "shi..", that is "kö". So it would be like [shi-ping]. So "Norrköping" sounds like if you read this as you see it, [n-orr-shi-ping]. I know, it's hopeless to say correct😂😂😂😂
Metropolitan Vickers were good at building stuff no doubt about it but their worse loco they built were the class 28 Co-Bo. The "Metro Vics were powered by a Crossley Two stroke Diesel.they were scrapped
Timestamps
0:01 The Wreck of Old '97
8:45 The Granville Rail Disaster
22:30 The Great Train Wreck of 1918
31:10 The Malbone Street Wreck
This derailed my morning. Now I have to watch it
Go sit in a corner and think about what you did.
Finally, while it's nice to see Darkness tries to do new content for the channel, it's usually nice to see a video that fits to the old roots of the original channel did months ago
The malbone street S curve had only just been put into service. At the time, Brighton Line service ran to and from Park Row terminal via the Brooklyn Bridge and the Fulton Street elevated.
The S curve was to allow the two track subway under Flatbush Avenue to connect the Brighton line to the Manhattan Bridge and the Broadway line.
The curve is still there, but is not in everyday use for passenger trains. A switch was installed and normal Franklin shuttle service uses the northbound platform.
It's used every night actually
@@this51man _"It's used every night"_
Could you elaborate?
@alexhajnal107 ok for starters, there's 4 trains in total. 2 run during the day, the 3rd one sits at the end of the platform as a spare, and the 4th one is in the yard.
Now at nights, only one of the trains is used, and they park the 2nd one on the same track right behind the 3rd one. What they do is that it'll run regular service to Botanic Garden, then go down via the Malborne curve (still in service) and discharges the people on that platform and that one is done for the night. When the morning comes they'll take that same train (or the spare, either one) and take that out south of the station and re-enter from the other side.
I've brought a train through there before, there's signs on the wall at the location of the wreck talking about it
It’s always sad when there’s a train wreck, you loose lives, money, supplies, locomotives, and rolling stock. Scariest of all, some accidents can actually devastate entire cities! 😨
@@levidarling5107 yea, it is sad especially when the wreck is a famous train or famous rolling stock like the freedom train cars or some other cars that were used in a movie or something.
I used to live in Nashville area and there is a historical marker on the road parallel to the track where that wreck occurred.
Yknow, we've heard about all these accidents but I don't think I've ever seen Darkness talking about one in particular that had a massive impact on rail safety procedures. The Armagh Rail Disaster of 1889 is basically why half the world mandates air brakes on their trains these days, yet for some reason not that many people talk about it.
For those who don’t know or are wondering, the wreck of 1918 happened on July 9th.
This is content that I missed the most even though I like how he is trying find new content for the channel
Darkness is back on track
Some more details on the Great Train Wreck of 1918 in Nashville. I live within walking distance of the same rail line, which is the main Memphis-Nashville line for CSX. The site of the wreck is just a couple of miles up the road. Darkness pretty much summed up the events pretty well. The site of the wreck is called “Dutchman’s Curve” because at the time, the impact site was at the middle of a double blind “S” curve. So not only did multiple failures put the two trains on the same track in the same block, but they came together at the worst possible place since neither engineer had any time to stop their trains….they just didn’t see each other.
In addition to every doctor and mortician coming from miles to help the effort, local butchers came too to help process the mangled bodies. The biggest share of fatalities came from the African American passengers. This was the Jim Crow south and trains were segregated, with black passengers relegated to the older wooden carriages near the locomotives where white passengers rode in the steel cars toward the rear. So those cars were largely intact on both trains after the accident.
There is a memorial to the victims of the wreck and it is easy to visit. At the time, the wreck was in a rural part of the west side of the county but now it sits behind a hospital and supermarket. There is a greenway for joggers and bikers which leads past the memorial and there is a resting bench, some train axels and a marker. Above you are the remains of an overpass to bridge a nearby creek. The actual CSX line is within a short distance in sight…in the years after the crash, the double blind curve was straightened to give a better line of sight.
As for the Nashville, Chattanooga and St. Louis Railway, the line had been acquired by rival Louisville and Nashville in 1901 but wasn’t fully merged until 1960. Unrelated to the accident, NC&St.L #576 which was a park preserved “Dixie” has been undergoing restoration by Nashville Steam LLC for the last five years. It is hoped to be under its own power for the first time since 1956 by the end of 2025.
Great video Darkness! Condolences to all the families of the fallen.
There was no corraboration that Brodie was instructed to arrive in Spencer, NC on time. In fact this allegation was denied by Southern Management. Based on my experience no engineer would be given orders to disregard safety rules. The site of the wreck was stillhouse trestle that was on a curve with a 5 mph. slow order. According to a nearby resident who was incidentally an employee of Southern heard the train descending the grade he estimated speed to be about 35 mph. For some reason the 97 had lost air when it entered the curve the locomotive derailed taking the train with it into the ravine. By the time the employee could get to the scene the wreck had occurred. This was told me by those present at time of the comment that were later at the scene. The Southern employee menitioned above was my Great Grandfather. Thanks
I wonder what the fine from the USPS was if the mail didn’t get there at all 🤔
The Getå disaster of 1918 led to intense research that made Sweden a world leader in geology.
F 1200 is the star of the national railroad museum. On the 100th anniversary of the disaster, she pulled a memorial train to and from Norrköping, and made a ceremonial stop at the accident site at the time of the derailment, blowing her whistle.
The post-derailment fire was actually so bad that a definitive death toll could not be determined. It is today considered to be 43.
The Swedish state railway had an unique designation scheme for their steam locomotives.
The number on the locomotive doesn't say anything about the class butt in wich timeframe it was put into service. (nrs1000 1910-1911, nrs1100 1911-1913, nrs1200 1913-1916, nrs1300 1916-1919 and nrs1400 1919-1922)
SJ main steamlocomotive classes have letters like A, B, E, F and S
f.e mentioned 1200 in this video was a F class, 1219 and 1220 are B class locomotives
Tweetsie did the great train wreak of 1913 on Halloween
25:19 If that's the conductor on any train I'm on I'm getting off! Looks like the kind of guy with oversized gold chains, one too many drinks in his system, and worrisome relations with females; the fur collars are the icing on the cake!
The Malbone Street Wreack:Lusiano was absolutly not at falt he was not trained properly and i agree he only took that train out through fear of loosing his job he sould never have been put in that situation and the falt lies with B.R.T.
IIRC Lusiano was offered a sizable bonus for driving the train. Still, he undoubtedly felt pressured to drive it and I'd say the blame firmly rests on the BRT.
Dutchman's Curve was the basis of a David Allan Coe song "The Great Nashville Railroad Disaster".
On a wild note:
I don’t have autism
I don’t even like trains
I just genuinely enjoy bros content so I watch almost every video he puts out 😭💀
4:30 Gordon Takes A Tumble in real life.
17:00 Percy Gets It Right
Darkness have you ever covered shipwrecks such as the Edmund Fitzgerald?
It is crazy to see how many of these tragedies were caused by flaunting safety because of human greed. So many lives lost just to try and put more money in some railroad boss' pockets.
And that's what deregulation is going to do
@@alexstansberry3950 20 years later mail went by open cockpit airplanes without proper navigation instruments, resulting in the loss of hundreds (?) of pilots.
Your upload schedule is crazy lol
Ashtabula Ohio, Angola New York, Prospect Station New York (near Portland in Chautauqua County). All within a couple hours drive from me. (All within the lake effect blizzard area currently ongoing.)
December 18, 1867 "The Angola Horror" in Angola, Erie County, New York, where 2 passenger cars derail on a bridge and roll down an embankment, and burn, killing 49. December 24, 1872, in the Town of Portland, Chautauqua County, New York, where 2 passenger cars derail and tumble off a bridge, and burn, killing 30. December 29, 1876, The Ashtabula Horror", in Ashtabula Ohio, where a bridge collapses as a train is crossing it plunging it into the frozen creek 70 feet below. Several passenger cars burn, resulting in the deaths of approximately 92.
I thought you may cover the Quintinshill disaster. Kind of glad that you didn't.
That was a horrific accident, to this day the worst rail accident in British history, and possibly the worst day of the Royal Scots, now part of the Royal Regiment of Scotland.
We gotta saying in the trucking industry- no load is so hot that it can't cool off in the ditch.....
25:20 is this pic real? It seems like an edit of some meme image I vaguely remember, it's bothering me
Next time? 1945 Bourne End, 1962 Harmelen, 1921 Abermule, 1986 Lockington and 1980 Buttevant.
Also the 1969 Violet Town crash.
2:02 you got any more pixels?
33:50 I have to wonder how many people were ignorant enough to say that this meant the unions were at fault for the accident, instead of the corporation that put an untrained man at the helm of a whole a$$ train.
14:16 preface = PREH-fiss or PREH-fess
Actually, America also had the Hammond train wreck in 1918 as well, so...
In later years, one location would have 2 wrecks , almost 72 years apart. On 9/06/1943, the Pennsylvania Railroad's Advance Congressional was slowing for a curve at Frankford Junction, in the Harrowgate section of Philadelphia, when a journal box failed while a train was approaching a curve at 50 MPH(80 KPH), and the 7th car, where the failed journal box was, derailed, shot upward, and hit a signal bridge, derailing the 9 cars behind, and fortunately not impacting the Frankford Elevated structure., which ran over the PRR line. There would be 79 fatalities. On May 12, 2015, Amtrak train 178 would derail on the curve I mentioned regarding the 1943 wreck. This time, the train went into a 50 MPH curve at 105 MPH, with the electric vehicle going well off the tracks, staying upright, and coming to rest perilously close to some tanker cars. The rest of the train also came off the rails, with the first passenger car being all but obliterated. Somehow, only 8 passengers died in this crash, though there were many injuries. The train's driver may have a case of situational unawareness, not realizing he was running his train WAY too fast for track conditions, and when he realized where he was, it was too late.
i like the song
Yeah we need an in depth explanation of what "fast" means....
The Granville loco 4620 was! found to be faulty it had come off the tracks 2 times prior to the Granville disaster so Granville was the 3rd time it had come off the tracks now what was faulty was the warn front wheels that the labour government had swept under the table because they had already allocated millions to fix the trackage but to fix the trains as well would have cost the labour government millions more that they didnt have, Murry farquhar the judge that leaned on the coroner tom weir to ignore the evidence on the the locos wheels, was convicted to 4 and a half years prison in 1985 for perverting the course of justice for 2 incidents not related to Granville but was found to have perverted the course of justice into Granville as well 9:28
"The train from the mountains can never be late..."
Lol you seen the day of the roses too 🤣. Good movie very sad though
Doeing management style caused the 97 accident.
The combined speed crash is not correct.
Its the speed you are going for the speed of the collision.
Mythbusters did a episode on this subject.
I can't think of what it's called for the speeds involved with collisions.
It comes down to the speed you qre in control of at the speed of the collision you're in.
And it's the speed of the other vehicles speed is the speed that the vehicle is running.
It's not a combined speed.
Yep, I start here. The place in sweden called Getå, is pronounced [Jeto](think star wars names). I know, when english speaking people comes here and hear we speak and try to learn on how it's pronounced, they finally say WTF, this language is impossible and it's probably is for Americans, because i have never heard anyone speak our language without having serious difficulties even after a couple of years 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please a drgw video
You fell for the swedish pronounciation trap: å as in tåg is actually pronounced like an o, so more like tog…
I blame swedish letters
yay😊
mb yall i did NOT mean for that emoji 💀🙏🏽🙏🏽
I was the cause of all of them
..And we have something more.. all town names with the name "-Köping" is pronounced.. "kö" is like you say the word "shirpa" and take out the "shi..", that is "kö". So it would be like [shi-ping]. So "Norrköping" sounds like if you read this as you see it, [n-orr-shi-ping]. I know, it's hopeless to say correct😂😂😂😂
🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃😕😕😕😕
Metropolitan Vickers were good at building stuff no doubt about it but their worse loco they built were the class 28 Co-Bo. The "Metro Vics were powered by a Crossley Two stroke Diesel.they were scrapped