Ringo's double stop fills are EXACTLY the sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about why Ringo is so great and so enormously underrated. There's nobody like him, never has been and never will be. Kudos for discussing it and showing Ringo doing it. Such incredible technique, and yet it's something that would just escape most people. If he hadn't done it, though, it wouldn't have had the power it does.
@@harveycan5820 absolutely. He actually arranged orchestral percussion parts for the trap drum kit with his playing. His understanding of melody and timbral variation is rare in any drummer. The fact that you can name the Beatles song just by his drumming is all the proof one needs to know just how phenomenal he is.
In my experience, 99% of the folks, musicians or civilians, who dog Ringo haven't taken the time to listen to the subtle nuances of his playing. After almost 60 years of being a fan of their music, my stock reply is "Fuck off and go buy an album."
@@jamieashby8810 it's much more than subtle nuances too, and that's what's so frustrating about this situation and having to explain it to people who don't get it. Ringo essentially composed orchestral percussion parts for trap drums. His drum parts explore timbre, melody, texture and gesture as much as they do rhythm and dynamics and the subtleties of their execution. He wrote parts and played them. He's amazing. It isn't just blazing speed or pedagogical drills and exercises that he's doing. He treats his drums like a gamelan sometimes. Listen to 'Rain', for instance, quite possibly my very favorite Beatles song if I were forced to pick one instantly. That's stunning drumming. You can listen to his part alone and feel musically satisfied, yet he never gets in the way. He only complements the music. It's perfect.
You guys make me proud!! I’m 65 and I have been listening to them since I was 4 years old and learning how to play music since I was 6 . Then learning & performing their music since I was 14 years old ! I earlier I said you guys make me it’s because of folks your age are keeping this great music alive!!🥁🎸🎶😎
Never would have thought Ringo used the double stop fill in the intro. Always sounded like it was only the snare but the isolated track proves the double stop! Fantastic job!
@@RingoStarr39can someone go tell this to that weirdo Sage of Quay or whatever his name is? He'll be on here in a minute telling us all that Ringo is air drumming and Purdie was under the stage. Carol Kaye will probably get a run too!
Total delight and a Beatles gear nerd’s ocd Disneyland! I’m 75 and owned a Tenny since I was 15.. and have played this music for the whole time- and thought I knew this stuff.. you guys take the cake. Great job!! And- just as important!? A diversion from election apprehension!
He actually borrowed George’s Futurama 111. Coming from Scouseland, I saw them many times. That Futurama was used extensively on some tracks later on. I still have mine.
Great work lads. There is a school of thought that says You're Going to Lose That Girl represents the last song that would fit on any of their previous 4 albums. I agree. It checks all the early Lennon/McCartney boxes. Lennon owning the song. Vintage McCartney/Harrison call-response harmony vocals. Like She Loves You, it adds a third person element to the storytelling. John's soaring falsetto, a boy-girl theme and more All in 2 minutes and 19 seconds. RNB
The converted altec compressor puts a vibe on any guitar that’s run through it : talking about a real one not a plug in : those guitars were highly compressed because they had to fit neatly into a four track tape machine format
I’ve only watched the first 60 seconds so far and im blown away by the editing/video production. Amazing job! Been waiting for this episode! Literally the only podcast I care about. Thank you for all the work and care you guys put in. 🙏🤘🏻
I am 71; I watched the Ed Sullivan shows and lived through Beatlemania. I went on to music school and got a degree in Music Education and then directly after, a Masters in Violin Performance. I played in every classical ensemble I could for fifteen years, winding up as the Concertmaster and Artist in Residence of a Rocky Mountain Region orchestra. Later, in my 40's, I did a whole year of classwork toward a DMA in Orchestral Conducting. I cried hard the morning of Dec 9, 1980. I have arranged some Beatles tunes for strings, and I have chosen others for student performance. I saw McCartney live once, at the Pepsi Center in Denver. I own and consult frequently "The Beatles Complete Scores." I state all this because I want you to know the depth of my involvement in music as well as my passion for the Beatles. You guys are absolutely incredible at what you are doing! I hung on every word of this. Fascinating. Are there any depths to plumb concerning "This Boy," another great tune from this era?
Great to interact with dedicated fans who lived through it all! We actually did an episode on This Boy a few episodes ago, so you should check it out and let us know what you think!
I love your story. I am 73 and saw the Beatles on Ed Sullian when I was 11 or 12. It was all we could talk about back then. So I went into a music class in the 7th grade and was given a cello to play. I never noticed this instrument before, but I came to love it. But I was thrown out of music class because a kid named Bill Bradshaw kept asking me questions that I felt compelled to answer. As an asthmatic, when I was not having an asthma attack, my lungs had more power than a healthy person's. So I was louder than he was and I got caught and was driven to stand in a corner while other kids learned to play music. After studying psychology on lind since 2017, I have come to realize that Bill Bradshaw was a nascent victim of anti-social personality disorder, and that is why he was driven to pretend to be a friend while he was setting me up to be caught misbehaving in Musice class and Math class. It just goes to show how the smallest change in youth can alter one's life course. I might have become a muscician, but for that kid.
I was a teenager on December 8th 1980.....in a record store.. buying Double Fantasy...not knowing yet what had happened. On the drive home the DJ on the radio was all choked up. Then we found out. I was holding Johns new album I hadn't listened to yet. .balling my eyes out. I still have a hard time listening to it.
I was 13 and taking piano lessons and I saw that Ed Sullivan show and thought "I will NEVER be THAT good" and I quit my piano lessons and years later went to AA, all because of the Fab 4
Completely understand why you gave us your backstory and I appreciate it. I'm 79, got hooked on Beatles guitar sounds in 1962, still working on it! Love their music still.
Another fantastic forensic analysis! I loved hearing the electric piano revelation from the original acetate, hadn't heard that before. Help! is such a fabulous turning point in their catalog; all of their youthful charm with hints of the studio experimentation that would define their latter career.
Great work guys. In a way it's funny to see people that weren't even born at that time to care about what happened then, but I'm glad you guys are on it.
Wow...Massive increase in production values! Inserted videos, graphics, audio clips, etc. Ryan is back off the couch. Best episode ever. Congratulations to whoever is doing the editing. Keep 'em coming, fellas.
Gentlemen (warning: standard and way overdone "I'm an old geezer" intro forthcoming), as somebody who was very young in the '60s and remembers looking at his older sister's White Album poster while listening to "Back in the U.S.S.R." for the first time, then rediscovered the Beatles and became a forever fanatic at age 12 (in 1974), I absolutely LOVED this video. LOVED it! It's not only oddly satisfying to see succeeding generations "discover" this band (and by that, I mean actually listen to the catalog and find out what melodic geniuses and fine singers they were; my philosophy has always been that there's no reason why young people of every generation can't enjoy their music the same way I did), but videos (and channels) like yours give incredible new depth to their music and to listeners like me, who've heard these songs a thousand times, still LOVE them, and yet thanks to you, can hear them in whole new and exciting ways. You can't understand how rich your content is to an old fanatic like me because you haven't been listening to these songs for 50+ years the same old way, but the new elements that you uncover are supremely fascinating to me. Until this new generation of musicians and technologists came along, Beatles music was a one-and-done affair. Now, we get to explore the magic underpinning these masterpieces. "You're Gonna Lose That Girl" is one of my absolute favorites of theirs. NEVER gets old. Phenomenal melody, beautiful harmonies, criminally underproduced (but they had time constraints, obviously). THANK YOU for this video!
Yep, agreed. As a longstanding Beatles fanatic, seeing (and hearing) their audio output being laid on the slab and forensically "post-mortemed" in this manner is very satisfying and definitely enhances one's appreciation and understanding of how these guys were able to capture "lightning in a bottle" so frequently and consistently. So much so, that as a hobbyist musician myself.....the one big takeaway I derive from this is that.....at the writing and recording stage, it's so important to "stay loose" and trust your own harmonic instincts whether they're expressing themselves in an "orthodox" manner or not. I've messed around and experimented with this principle with The Beatles as my inspirational muse and the upshot is that when you're writing, composing....and to some extent, even when you're mixing and mastering.....you should do it with such an air of confidence that some of what you're doing might possibly "baffle" or "mystify" anybody who takes it upon themselves to try and replicate or deconstruct your work. I call this principle "performer's privilege" and The Beatles definitely obviated THEIR attitude and philosophy towards this in spades. What obviously mattered to them the most, was that that FINAL audio representation of any given track they were working on, and so long as it passed muster with their own (and George Martin's) sensibilities, they were confident that it could then be released to "the world" as I finished article. Was it all "perfect" and never underworked? Probably not.....but it was always "good enough" because their musicianship was sufficiently honed to carry it....and they KNEW IT.
Just discovered this channel. First time I have heard these isolated tracks, different solo for the song and review of the keyboard songs. Great stuff. I couldn't subscribe fast enough. My new fave YT channel - can't wait to catch up on your other vids. Thanks, guys!
Those "down strokes" on piano was them trying to imitate early rock n roll records, more particularly Little Richard's boogie woogie rhythm piano style. Listen to Richard's songs like "Lucille", this is his go to style of playing piano.
5:15 I would about guarantee that George Martin was aware that Paul could play a little on the piano before the 'Beatles For Sale' album in late 1964. I don't believe he would have been surprised. Paul and John were both writing on piano in 1963. There were a couple pianos in the studio, so they both probably played around on those pianos before ever playing one on a track.
Another fab episode fellas. My personal fave song from my fave album. I believe that when they performed the said song within the film - it set a precedent for future 'music videos'. Your collective deep-dives are always wonderfully insightful - and fun to watch.
I actually still prefer the USA Help! soundtrack. I hated the film music as a kid but now I love it! Plus it has the "James Bond intro" to the title song - - and all that Capitol compression and reverb!
Good Morning All. I don’t know where to start on comments, this is just unbelievably great. I can’t imagine the amount of time and effort all of you have spent on being the musicians you are. Thank you so much for that and sharing with all of us. It’s beautiful to hear and listening to this episode as well as others always immediately places me in a great mood. Again, Thank you!
My vote is Strat on everything! (I am biased like George!) I feel like the Beatles would love this show. I’m sure they wouldn’t even remember!! lol Sam laying down serious knowledge in this episode!!! Props y’all!
Judging by Paul telling story how he got Casino because of Hendrix even tho he had it like 2 years before he came to UK is well… We might know even less as we do now. 😂
I often feel that isolated Beatles tracks sound abysmal by themselves, but in the final mix, it sounds just right. After all, it was the Beatles, in process of defining "just right" for all future rock/pop musicians.
Great video - lots of excellent points made, and highly informative. But can we talk for a moment about those backing vocals from Paul and George? It’s amazing how they were able to blend so well it almost creates a third voice.
Really enjoyed this video, especially the final comments. Have always thought the Help album is underrated in the Beatles catalogue and you guys give good reasons why it's as good as it is. This song included.
Amazing video guys! I’ve never heard that acetate of the song, and I’ve never seen the George Martin notes of that song. I thought it was 100% Strat on the rhythm, but now I’m back to having absolutely no idea lol.
Excellent work as always! It never ceases to amaze me that you can get a situation where the Beatles are recording at EMI with George Martin using all the technology of the day….standing in front of the microphones ready to record….and they can still have instruments out of tune 🙂
Wow! Just found your channel. Been listening to The Beatles since I was 4. My dad had a Philips turntable and amplifier ‘Hifi’ he bought in the ‘60s. As I showed an interest, he decided to show me how to use it rather than forbid me from going at it. With The Beatles, A Collection of Beatles Oldies and Let It Be were my diet for my first 6 years, till I was old enough to start buying my own records. Looking forward to checking out the rest of the video on the channel!
Hi everyone loved this discussion.I’m convinced it’s a gretsch ..now having played guitar all my life and being old enough to have played in the cavern (the original) have also recorded in Abbey road ..remember they stuck everything though the Fairchild compressor..and also the different string length between fender and gretsch ..I rest my case ..I love your enthusiasm may the this channel became a huge success.. Thanks.
44:19 This is a great observation. What's special about YGLTG though is that John uses the flat-7 chord to modulate to the bridge and back to the verse. The parallel between "..you're gonna (D) lose that girl" and "what else can l (F) do.." is what makes this song.
The lead, I agree with you guys. You can hear the distinctive bell tune of the strat. The rythum has Gretch characteristics. I also agree with how much those Vox amplifiers color the tone. The tube mixing consoles that were used with Beatles had the ability to capture high end without adding harsh harmonics like some of todays mixers. Love your show and I to am still captivated by The Beatles and some of the styled guitars they used.
Fun stuff guys! I bought most of the Beatles records when they came out. SO cool seeing this music embraced by each new generation (my kids love The Beatles, my grandkids now love The Beatles! …my dad was an old school Sinatra guy, and was a hard sell on The Beatles, but around 1970 I knew he finally “got it” when we could hear him singing Hey Jude in the shower one day! 😂). The Fabs were simply The Best. So glad I grew up back then, but so glad this amazing music bridges the generations. Carry on! I just subbed to your channel- good work kids! 🎉
Keltner is fine but he is the definition of a studio drummer. Ringo has incredible feel and personality in his drums, in my eyes he’s one of the best drummers in history.
26:16 Kinda surprised that there wasn't any more discussion on the Casino - without me knowing dates and pictures etc, just using my ears, that sounds like a strong contender for the solo. Thanks for the discussion though, interesting stuff
Man I been following for a while. Love your stuff. More bass videos please- what I wanted to say is what a jump in the video editing. Don’t know what you guys are doing different but the film clips + graphics + HQ Videos when you guys do the testing originally etc etc... Love to see it. Keep going lads
I've always had this theory that the Beatles had their guitars in-tune with each other and their voices, but flatter than 440, but that the piano added later was 440. I tried making a mix where I removed the piano for a lot of it and the overall track sounds more in-tune to me. It's such a gorgeous song with all the overlapping vocals.
Good one once again fellas. If I had to guess the rhythm track is John on 325- except for the George Martin scribble that John played Gretsch. I could buy Tenny- something with low output pickups and flats wound strings. The solo has to be a strat. Sounds almost exactly like Nowhere Man from later that year. Has the same snap- the same treble response. SO I play John in a tribute called "Hard Days Night" with Al Francis- Dom- you know him well- and I've been trying to come up with a dual Sonic Blue Strat set for a while now... and would love to use this song- along with Nowhere Man, Ticket to Ride, Day Tripper, In My Life... but I don't think that there are enough songs where it makes sense. It's nuts, but I've never done "Lose that girl" live. We were talking about it for an upcoming "Films" show- so great timing for me! Cheers!
Fantastic video!! I honestly think the Gretsch was used as the rhythm guitar, and I agree with Michael that there is still a possibility of the solo being played on the Gretsch, as seen in the Help! movie. I'd say that for the solo there is a 60% chance that it played on a Fender Sonic Blue 1961 Stratocaster and 40% chance that it was played on a 1962 Gretsch Tennessean.
As a Beatles freak, guitar player and song-writer, I can not tell you how much this channel feeds my need (others would say 'geekiness', but they just do not understand), to discuss and try to establish how The Fabs' tracks were recorded, who played what, and so on. Many thanks. In terms of the solo, I am with Michael - I am not convinced it is a Strat - partly because the sonic quality of the 'bad' solo is so inferior to the released take that it, quite literally, muddies the issue.
I would like to say I could totally see John using George’s Tenne, and George being the cheeky fellow he is, picking up johns 325 for the solo. We do see him kind of pretend playing it in the Help movie.
The solo must be the Gretsch because it has a distinct Filtertron sound like Roll Over Beethoven has. And I wonder if George broke a lot of strings? The attack on some of the notes sounds very aggressive.
Great episode! Question - is it possible that George Martin’s note actually just says ‘guitar (john)’? That how I saw it at first. My vote is Rick/strat
I thought this might be the case. If you compare it to the “guitar” written later in the note, I see enough differences that it’s a different word. The capitalization particularly gives it away - George Martin, former Naval Officer, was way too precise for that to not be intentional.
My wife isn’t crazy about the Beatles either. There’s a few songs that she likes, but for the most part I drive her insane with my Beatles music. I’ve been listening to them since SGT Pepper came out, and I still don’t get tired of them.
Around 14:40 when you guys are talking about the guitar being kind of out of tune, on high-action guitars or guitars with bad nut slot angles, otherwise in-tune guitars can play sharp on the first few frets just from the tension of fretting them. It sounds to me like they may have just been fretting pretty hard? I have this issue on my SG and I deliberately tune the g-string a little flat to compensate for it but when I don't it sounds similarly out-of-tune despite the guitar being correctly tuned and intonated at the 12th fret.
Another great episode guys. Always ready for the next. Would you guys ever consider making an episode in more depth about the instruments/recording tech was used in get back? Not just the guitars, but the drums, organ, Rhodes keyboard, grand piano ect ect ect. Thanks again 🫡
I'm 71 yrs old, and was using a Tenny in the mid 60's. I think the solo is played on a Gretsch, rhythm on a Strat. That said- they were pretty enamored by the Fenders when they got them- so possibly both parts are played on Strats. Why they chose what they chose for the film does give pause slightly to the idea that they used other than what we saw onscreen. Secondly, my vote is for a 12th position kick on the solo. When you guys played it otherwise, there's more hesitation during the changes of positions. You needn't change the hand's position as much when starting at fret 12; it's easier and more fluid- as it sounds when GH plays it.
An excellent review of the Beatles, I'm impressed with what's been researched 😊. Thanks Cheers, personally I think the dissonance is one of the ingredients ❤ Gretsch
Another great episode fellas! I, like you, always assumed the scene in HELP! was an accurate portrayal of the actual recording. Love how you break it down and I'm right there with you all. Tenny and Strat. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall and seen John playing George's guitar for that session. I lie...I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for all their sessions...but definitely this one as well 😉
Wow, fantastic video on one of my favorites of theirs. True story: Going to work one morning many years ago, the local top 40 radio station had just played this song. The DJ started talking then said "that just sounded so good let's hear it again" or something to the effect and played it again. Definitely one of their gems that wasn't a hit.
Great analysis of this fantastic Beatle song guys! I agree with the Strat, I think the final Touch was applied at the console with the final mix, that’s why it’s so hard to replicate the exact sound.
I thought Paul played Piano on Beatles For Sale, possibly on Every Little Thing. What I love about his playing on this song is that it’s like his playing on That Means A Lot, especially the bass notes.
This was another fascinating video from you guys. Regarding which guitars were used, I always go back to how much of the sound lies in the players hands. Give the same guitarist two or three guitars and it's going to sound very similar due to it being the same fingers doing the playing. Keep up the good work. 👍😎
Nice work guys! What I've seen in the movie click 41:58 George is playing lead guitar on the CG (with flats to my ears), & Lennon playing a J-160E rhythm in Help, but probably Strat (flats) in Studio 2 for rhythm guitar. Revisiting George Martin's notes here is a nice touch here> 20:33 Questioning the 5th Beatle? Agree with Mike (CG) and I wonder what Paul thinks after he trys his CG (classic)?
Yet another legendary episode lads! Never knew about George Martin’s note on John using the Gretsch let alone the Tenny. I was definitely on the Strat train before the episode. Also was 50/50 on the Strat or the Tenny for the guitar used for the solo, but definitely now am 100% on the Strat. Can’t wait for the next one
Yes, the note is interesting. It strikes me that George M. would be unlikely to have made a casual mistake in noting that John played the Gretsch as it was so unusual. In fact its being unusual could well be why George made a specific note of it at all.
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George and John: picks a guitar to play
Those guys: *and I took that personally* 😂
The editing has only gotten better and better with each episode. This has the best editing and pacing by far. Great accompanying visuals.
hooray for hollywood , and all that
Ringo's double stop fills are EXACTLY the sort of thing I'm talking about when I talk about why Ringo is so great and so enormously underrated. There's nobody like him, never has been and never will be. Kudos for discussing it and showing Ringo doing it. Such incredible technique, and yet it's something that would just escape most people. If he hadn't done it, though, it wouldn't have had the power it does.
Songwriters dream drummer!
@@harveycan5820 absolutely. He actually arranged orchestral percussion parts for the trap drum kit with his playing. His understanding of melody and timbral variation is rare in any drummer. The fact that you can name the Beatles song just by his drumming is all the proof one needs to know just how phenomenal he is.
@@harveycan5820 and starting fills with his left hand produces such amazing results that no one else does.
In my experience, 99% of the folks, musicians or civilians, who dog Ringo haven't taken the time to listen to the subtle nuances of his playing.
After almost 60 years of being a fan of their music, my stock reply is "Fuck off and go buy an album."
@@jamieashby8810 it's much more than subtle nuances too, and that's what's so frustrating about this situation and having to explain it to people who don't get it. Ringo essentially composed orchestral percussion parts for trap drums. His drum parts explore timbre, melody, texture and gesture as much as they do rhythm and dynamics and the subtleties of their execution. He wrote parts and played them. He's amazing. It isn't just blazing speed or pedagogical drills and exercises that he's doing. He treats his drums like a gamelan sometimes. Listen to 'Rain', for instance, quite possibly my very favorite Beatles song if I were forced to pick one instantly. That's stunning drumming. You can listen to his part alone and feel musically satisfied, yet he never gets in the way. He only complements the music. It's perfect.
You guys make me proud!! I’m 65 and I have been listening to them since I was 4 years old and learning how to play music since I was 6 . Then learning & performing their music since I was 14 years old !
I earlier I said you guys make me it’s because of folks your age are keeping this great music alive!!🥁🎸🎶😎
at 70 yrs old, I thank you all. There is so much analysis on these guys one is amazed and surprised every time we turn a corner. keep it up please.
Never would have thought Ringo used the double stop fill in the intro. Always sounded like it was only the snare but the isolated track proves the double stop! Fantastic job!
one of the subtly craziest Ringo intros
Ringo's parts always fit the song yet are still unique enough to be difficult to actually figure out. haha
@@RingoStarr39can someone go tell this to that weirdo Sage of Quay or whatever his name is? He'll be on here in a minute telling us all that Ringo is air drumming and Purdie was under the stage. Carol Kaye will probably get a run too!
Absolutely superlative guys. Anyone who is a Beatles freak like me just can’t get enough of the geekery you guys put out. Thanks….keep it up.
Total delight and a Beatles gear nerd’s ocd Disneyland! I’m 75 and owned a Tenny since I was 15.. and have played this music for the whole time- and thought I knew this stuff.. you guys take the cake. Great job!! And- just as important!? A diversion from election apprehension!
So yiu have the experience; are you saying "yes" to the Gent?
I say it's a banjo.
He actually borrowed George’s Futurama 111. Coming from Scouseland, I saw them many times. That Futurama was used extensively on some tracks later on. I still have mine.
Great work lads. There is a school of thought that says You're Going to Lose That Girl represents the last song that would fit on any of their previous 4 albums. I agree. It checks all the early Lennon/McCartney boxes. Lennon owning the song. Vintage McCartney/Harrison call-response harmony vocals. Like She Loves You, it adds a third person element to the storytelling. John's soaring falsetto, a boy-girl theme and more All in 2 minutes and 19 seconds. RNB
The converted altec compressor puts a vibe on any guitar that’s run through it : talking about a real one not a plug in : those guitars were highly compressed because they had to fit neatly into a four track tape machine format
I’ve only watched the first 60 seconds so far and im blown away by the editing/video production. Amazing job! Been waiting for this episode! Literally the only podcast I care about. Thank you for all the work and care you guys put in. 🙏🤘🏻
I am 71; I watched the Ed Sullivan shows and lived through Beatlemania. I went on to music school and got a degree in Music Education and then directly after, a Masters in Violin Performance. I played in every classical ensemble I could for fifteen years, winding up as the Concertmaster and Artist in Residence of a Rocky Mountain Region orchestra. Later, in my 40's, I did a whole year of classwork toward a DMA in Orchestral Conducting. I cried hard the morning of Dec 9, 1980. I have arranged some Beatles tunes for strings, and I have chosen others for student performance. I saw McCartney live once, at the Pepsi Center in Denver. I own and consult frequently "The Beatles Complete Scores." I state all this because I want you to know the depth of my involvement in music as well as my passion for the Beatles. You guys are absolutely incredible at what you are doing! I hung on every word of this. Fascinating. Are there any depths to plumb concerning "This Boy," another great tune from this era?
Great to interact with dedicated fans who lived through it all! We actually did an episode on This Boy a few episodes ago, so you should check it out and let us know what you think!
I love your story. I am 73 and saw the Beatles on Ed Sullian when I was 11 or 12. It was all we could talk about back then. So I went into a music class in the 7th grade and was given a cello to play. I never noticed this instrument before, but I came to love it. But I was thrown out of music class because a kid named Bill Bradshaw kept asking me questions that I felt compelled to answer. As an asthmatic, when I was not having an asthma attack, my lungs had more power than a healthy person's. So I was louder than he was and I got caught and was driven to stand in a corner while other kids learned to play music. After studying psychology on lind since 2017, I have come to realize that Bill Bradshaw was a nascent victim of anti-social personality disorder, and that is why he was driven to pretend to be a friend while he was setting me up to be caught misbehaving in Musice class and Math class. It just goes to show how the smallest change in youth can alter one's life course. I might have become a muscician, but for that kid.
I was a teenager on December 8th 1980.....in a record store.. buying Double Fantasy...not knowing yet what had happened. On the drive home the DJ on the radio was all choked up. Then we found out. I was holding Johns new album I hadn't listened to yet. .balling my eyes out. I still have a hard time listening to it.
I was 13 and taking piano lessons and I saw that Ed Sullivan show and thought "I will NEVER be THAT good" and I quit my piano lessons and years later went to AA, all because of the Fab 4
Completely understand why you gave us your backstory and I appreciate it. I'm 79, got hooked on Beatles guitar sounds in 1962, still working on it! Love their music still.
“John… can sing.” It may be controversial but I agree.
I spit only facts 🔥
@@MichaelSokilbig Jim
Compare to what is called a "singer"
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@@George-dx9nc like Taylor Swift🤣. She’s all autotune, all the time!
1 billion records sold.. clearly says he can😂
This video is so well produced
Speaking of Ringo's drumming... where there be a video on Ringo's drums soon?
Another fantastic forensic analysis! I loved hearing the electric piano revelation from the original acetate, hadn't heard that before. Help! is such a fabulous turning point in their catalog; all of their youthful charm with hints of the studio experimentation that would define their latter career.
Glad you enjoyed it! "Help!" is absolutely 1000% underrated. Peak Beatles.
I'd say peak early phase Beatles. Very pure joyful songwriting and performing. But it only got better from here!
Best Beatles podcast! I could watch a new video every day!
Great work guys. In a way it's funny to see people that weren't even born at that time to care about what happened then, but I'm glad you guys are on it.
THE BOYS ARE BACK!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Wow...Massive increase in production values! Inserted videos, graphics, audio clips, etc. Ryan is back off the couch. Best episode ever. Congratulations to whoever is doing the editing. Keep 'em coming, fellas.
You have to love George Martin and his studio notes. I’m convinced! Great episode.
I still think this is the best music video ever.
Gentlemen (warning: standard and way overdone "I'm an old geezer" intro forthcoming), as somebody who was very young in the '60s and remembers looking at his older sister's White Album poster while listening to "Back in the U.S.S.R." for the first time, then rediscovered the Beatles and became a forever fanatic at age 12 (in 1974), I absolutely LOVED this video. LOVED it! It's not only oddly satisfying to see succeeding generations "discover" this band (and by that, I mean actually listen to the catalog and find out what melodic geniuses and fine singers they were; my philosophy has always been that there's no reason why young people of every generation can't enjoy their music the same way I did), but videos (and channels) like yours give incredible new depth to their music and to listeners like me, who've heard these songs a thousand times, still LOVE them, and yet thanks to you, can hear them in whole new and exciting ways. You can't understand how rich your content is to an old fanatic like me because you haven't been listening to these songs for 50+ years the same old way, but the new elements that you uncover are supremely fascinating to me. Until this new generation of musicians and technologists came along, Beatles music was a one-and-done affair. Now, we get to explore the magic underpinning these masterpieces. "You're Gonna Lose That Girl" is one of my absolute favorites of theirs. NEVER gets old. Phenomenal melody, beautiful harmonies, criminally underproduced (but they had time constraints, obviously). THANK YOU for this video!
Yep, agreed. As a longstanding Beatles fanatic, seeing (and hearing) their audio output being laid on the slab and forensically "post-mortemed" in this manner is very satisfying and definitely enhances one's appreciation and understanding of how these guys were able to capture "lightning in a bottle" so frequently and consistently. So much so, that as a hobbyist musician myself.....the one big takeaway I derive from this is that.....at the writing and recording stage, it's so important to "stay loose" and trust your own harmonic instincts whether they're expressing themselves in an "orthodox" manner or not. I've messed around and experimented with this principle with The Beatles as my inspirational muse and the upshot is that when you're writing, composing....and to some extent, even when you're mixing and mastering.....you should do it with such an air of confidence that some of what you're doing might possibly "baffle" or "mystify" anybody who takes it upon themselves to try and replicate or deconstruct your work. I call this principle "performer's privilege" and The Beatles definitely obviated THEIR attitude and philosophy towards this in spades. What obviously mattered to them the most, was that that FINAL audio representation of any given track they were working on, and so long as it passed muster with their own (and George Martin's) sensibilities, they were confident that it could then be released to "the world" as I finished article.
Was it all "perfect" and never underworked? Probably not.....but it was always "good enough" because their musicianship was sufficiently honed to carry it....and they KNEW IT.
Simplicity and brilliance at once ... One of their best songs ... ❤️
What Beatles song ISN'T?!
Just discovered this channel. First time I have heard these isolated tracks, different solo for the song and review of the keyboard songs. Great stuff. I couldn't subscribe fast enough. My new fave YT channel - can't wait to catch up on your other vids. Thanks, guys!
Those "down strokes" on piano was them trying to imitate early rock n roll records, more particularly Little Richard's boogie woogie rhythm piano style. Listen to Richard's songs like "Lucille", this is his go to style of playing piano.
5:15 I would about guarantee that George Martin was aware that Paul could play a little on the piano before the 'Beatles For Sale' album in late 1964. I don't believe he would have been surprised. Paul and John were both writing on piano in 1963. There were a couple pianos in the studio, so they both probably played around on those pianos before ever playing one on a track.
Another fab episode fellas. My personal fave song from my fave album. I believe that when they performed the said song within the film - it set a precedent for future 'music videos'. Your collective deep-dives are always wonderfully insightful - and fun to watch.
stay off the lsd bro 🙏 you've been gaslit. i was too. . you won't find a bigger beatles fan than me.
I actually still prefer the USA Help! soundtrack. I hated the film music as a kid but now I love it! Plus it has the "James Bond intro" to the title song - - and all that Capitol compression and reverb!
Good Morning All. I don’t know where to start on comments, this is just unbelievably great. I can’t imagine the amount of time and effort all of you have spent on being the musicians you are. Thank you so much for that and sharing with all of us. It’s beautiful to hear and listening to this episode as well as others always immediately places me in a great mood. Again, Thank you!
My vote is Strat on everything! (I am biased like George!)
I feel like the Beatles would love this show. I’m sure they wouldn’t even remember!! lol
Sam laying down serious knowledge in this episode!!! Props y’all!
Judging by Paul telling story how he got Casino because of Hendrix even tho he had it like 2 years before he came to UK is well… We might know even less as we do now. 😂
I often feel that isolated Beatles tracks sound abysmal by themselves, but in the final mix, it sounds just right. After all, it was the Beatles, in process of defining "just right" for all future rock/pop musicians.
1:00 yessss the clip of Paul going crazy on his hofner from The Night Before 😮💨😮💨
0:49 😳 gear there and everywhere.
Actually, that clip is from them performing Another Girl.
Always was my fave from Help, since 1965 when I saw the movie
Great video - lots of excellent points made, and highly informative.
But can we talk for a moment about those backing vocals from Paul and George? It’s amazing how they were able to blend so well it almost creates a third voice.
Really enjoyed this video, especially the final comments. Have always thought the Help album is underrated in the Beatles catalogue and you guys give good reasons why it's as good as it is. This song included.
Very well produced - again 😊
Only 2 minutes in and so far this episode has had some of the best editing of almost any other vid to my knowledge
Can’t go wrong sticking the solo over the bathroom romp. 10/10 video gentlemen 🫡
Amazing video guys! I’ve never heard that acetate of the song, and I’ve never seen the George Martin notes of that song. I thought it was 100% Strat on the rhythm, but now I’m back to having absolutely no idea lol.
Excellent work as always!
It never ceases to amaze me that you can get a situation where the Beatles are recording at EMI with George Martin using all the technology of the day….standing in front of the microphones ready to record….and they can still have instruments out of tune 🙂
Wow! Just found your channel. Been listening to The Beatles since I was 4. My dad had a Philips turntable and amplifier ‘Hifi’ he bought in the ‘60s. As I showed an interest, he decided to show me how to use it rather than forbid me from going at it. With The Beatles, A Collection of Beatles Oldies and Let It Be were my diet for my first 6 years, till I was old enough to start buying my own records. Looking forward to checking out the rest of the video on the channel!
Fantastic information, you guys are amazing, so much work involved, you must really love what you do .
Hi everyone loved this discussion.I’m convinced it’s a gretsch ..now having played guitar all my life and being old enough to have played in the cavern (the original) have also recorded in Abbey road ..remember they stuck everything though the Fairchild compressor..and also the different string length between fender and gretsch ..I rest my case ..I love your enthusiasm may the this channel became a huge success..
Thanks.
John sings the most beautiful note in Beatles history in this song.
It's the falsetto lose. It's so pure and lovely.
44:19 This is a great observation. What's special about YGLTG though is that John uses the flat-7 chord to modulate to the bridge and back to the verse. The parallel between "..you're gonna (D) lose that girl" and "what else can l (F) do.." is what makes this song.
It's a nice progression ❤
Their "bridges to/from the bridge" are pure genius in song after song.
@@harveycan5820 spot on
One of my very favourite songs, not just Beatle songs.
Amazing episode! The edits are getting really great and functional
Please break down how it’s possible that George survived that brutal face plant into the pavement when they are being chased in Hard Days Night.
Always wondered the same thing!
Ringo goes over too. It could have been the end before it had even begun.
@@brendanwalsh108 luckily that guy in the coat saw that and held back the crowd briefly until they'd gotten back up.
He’s got a hard skull, that man
George said the palms of his hands saved him, that he scraped the shit out of them having fallen like that. I believe that's in the anthology book.
It would be so interesting so see a video on No Reply! The mix is so messy it would be cool to see who's playing what!
The lead, I agree with you guys. You can hear the distinctive bell tune of the strat. The rythum has Gretch characteristics. I also agree with how much those Vox amplifiers color the tone. The tube mixing consoles that were used with Beatles had the ability to capture high end without adding harsh harmonics like some of todays mixers. Love your show and I to am still captivated by The Beatles and some of the styled guitars they used.
Fun stuff guys! I bought most of the Beatles records when they came out. SO cool seeing this music embraced by each new generation (my kids love The Beatles, my grandkids now love The Beatles! …my dad was an old school Sinatra guy, and was a hard sell on The Beatles, but around 1970 I knew he finally “got it” when we could hear him singing Hey Jude in the shower one day! 😂). The Fabs were simply The Best. So glad I grew up back then, but so glad this amazing music bridges the generations. Carry on! I just subbed to your channel- good work kids! 🎉
Congrats for the editing! Seems a lot of work.
",no time for losers"
@@jesusislukeskywalker4294the only loser in the room is you
I appreciate your recreations. You all are amazing.
Im giving Little Child to Martin on piano...Martin just has a SOUND on piano😊
I absolutely adore these videos.
Another awesome video guys. Much appreciate your work.
Keltner is fine but he is the definition of a studio drummer. Ringo has incredible feel and personality in his drums, in my eyes he’s one of the best drummers in history.
26:16 Kinda surprised that there wasn't any more discussion on the Casino - without me knowing dates and pictures etc, just using my ears, that sounds like a strong contender for the solo. Thanks for the discussion though, interesting stuff
Man I been following for a while. Love your stuff. More bass videos please- what I wanted to say is what a jump in the video editing. Don’t know what you guys are doing different but the film clips + graphics + HQ Videos when you guys do the testing originally etc etc... Love to see it. Keep going lads
Excellent analysis, guys. I enjoyed it very much. And it sure sounds like a Strat to me.
I've always had this theory that the Beatles had their guitars in-tune with each other and their voices, but flatter than 440, but that the piano added later was 440. I tried making a mix where I removed the piano for a lot of it and the overall track sounds more in-tune to me. It's such a gorgeous song with all the overlapping vocals.
Good one once again fellas. If I had to guess the rhythm track is John on 325- except for the George Martin scribble that John played Gretsch. I could buy Tenny- something with low output pickups and flats wound strings. The solo has to be a strat. Sounds almost exactly like Nowhere Man from later that year. Has the same snap- the same treble response.
SO I play John in a tribute called "Hard Days Night" with Al Francis- Dom- you know him well- and I've been trying to come up with a dual Sonic Blue Strat set for a while now... and would love to use this song- along with Nowhere Man, Ticket to Ride, Day Tripper, In My Life... but I don't think that there are enough songs where it makes sense. It's nuts, but I've never done "Lose that girl" live. We were talking about it for an upcoming "Films" show- so great timing for me! Cheers!
Gretsch Tennessean for the rhythm. Gretsch Country Gent for the solo.
Floor ton and snare at the same time...Ringo did that on many songs....Help,Tell me Why,many others.
Fantastic video!! I honestly think the Gretsch was used as the rhythm guitar, and I agree with Michael that there is still a possibility of the solo being played on the Gretsch, as seen in the Help! movie. I'd say that for the solo there is a 60% chance that it played on a Fender Sonic Blue 1961 Stratocaster and 40% chance that it was played on a 1962 Gretsch Tennessean.
As a Beatles freak, guitar player and song-writer, I can not tell you how much this channel feeds my need (others would say 'geekiness', but they just do not understand), to discuss and try to establish how The Fabs' tracks were recorded, who played what, and so on.
Many thanks.
In terms of the solo, I am with Michael - I am not convinced it is a Strat - partly because the sonic quality of the 'bad' solo is so inferior to the released take that it, quite literally, muddies the issue.
Every time I listen to this song, I can’t help but say, “Boys, are you buzzing?” after it ends.
Nerdy Beatle guys, love it. Watched the whole thing.
So I’m typing this before watching it. I’ve been thinking for YEARS. That the solo is the Gretsch Country Gent. Lets see if im close haha
That’s exactly what I think, mainly cause it sounds exactly like the tone in roll over Beethoven
I want to see which amp they think was used, Vox or Fender!
I would like to say I could totally see John using George’s Tenne, and George being the cheeky fellow he is, picking up johns 325 for the solo. We do see him kind of pretend playing it in the Help movie.
The solo must be the Gretsch because it has a distinct Filtertron sound like Roll Over Beethoven has. And I wonder if George broke a lot of strings? The attack on some of the notes sounds very aggressive.
agree
The solo sounds like there's some heavy compression emphasising the attack on it.
It's the tennessean!!!
The Tennessean had Hi-Lo-Tron pickups. The Country Gent had Filtertrons.
The amp matters, too!
Great episode! Question - is it possible that George Martin’s note actually just says ‘guitar (john)’? That how I saw it at first. My vote is Rick/strat
I thought this might be the case. If you compare it to the “guitar” written later in the note, I see enough differences that it’s a different word. The capitalization particularly gives it away - George Martin, former Naval Officer, was way too precise for that to not be intentional.
I would love to hear your opinion on who is singing the "ahhhh" on a day in the life. For me its Paul;
For me (Ryan) it’s absolutely Paul
My wife isn’t crazy about the Beatles either. There’s a few songs that she likes, but for the most part I drive her insane with my Beatles music. I’ve been listening to them since SGT Pepper came out, and I still don’t get tired of them.
I'm happy that you are backk guys, but don't get lose for 2 months again pleaseee 😭
Around 14:40 when you guys are talking about the guitar being kind of out of tune, on high-action guitars or guitars with bad nut slot angles, otherwise in-tune guitars can play sharp on the first few frets just from the tension of fretting them. It sounds to me like they may have just been fretting pretty hard? I have this issue on my SG and I deliberately tune the g-string a little flat to compensate for it but when I don't it sounds similarly out-of-tune despite the guitar being correctly tuned and intonated at the 12th fret.
Another great episode guys. Always ready for the next.
Would you guys ever consider making an episode in more depth about the instruments/recording tech was used in get back? Not just the guitars, but the drums, organ, Rhodes keyboard, grand piano ect ect ect. Thanks again 🫡
I'm 71 yrs old, and was using a Tenny in the mid 60's. I think the solo is played on a Gretsch, rhythm on a Strat. That said- they were pretty enamored by the Fenders when they got them- so possibly both parts are played on Strats. Why they chose what they chose for the film does give pause slightly to the idea that they used other than what we saw onscreen. Secondly, my vote is for a 12th position kick on the solo. When you guys played it otherwise, there's more hesitation during the changes of positions. You needn't change the hand's position as much when starting at fret 12; it's easier and more fluid- as it sounds when GH plays it.
Great episode and my bet is that it’s the Fender Stratocasters for the rhythm guitar and solo! I would love you guys to do a Rocky episode!
Rocky episode is in the works!
An excellent review of the Beatles, I'm impressed with what's been researched 😊. Thanks Cheers, personally I think the dissonance is one of the ingredients ❤ Gretsch
Another great episode fellas! I, like you, always assumed the scene in HELP! was an accurate portrayal of the actual recording. Love how you break it down and I'm right there with you all. Tenny and Strat. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall and seen John playing George's guitar for that session. I lie...I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for all their sessions...but definitely this one as well 😉
Wow, fantastic video on one of my favorites of theirs. True story: Going to work one morning many years ago, the local top 40 radio station had just played this song. The DJ started talking then said "that just sounded so good let's hear it again" or something to the effect and played it again. Definitely one of their gems that wasn't a hit.
One of my favourite songs on the Help! album, really cool song from a really cool album
Fascinating . . . just found you guys! Great vid, will be checking out lots more, thanks!
Just wanna say thanks for creating the playlists!!! You guys are amazing!!! 🤠👍
Great analysis of this fantastic Beatle song guys!
I agree with the Strat, I think the final
Touch was applied at the console with the final mix, that’s why it’s so hard to replicate the exact sound.
Your gonna lose and I need you are the Most under rated songs guitar on both is amazing Oh and Bongo playing the ringo 👍
My impression is that the rhythm guitar is the Rick 325. The intonation chord to chord sounds like a short scale instrument. Great episode gents !
I thought Paul played Piano on Beatles For Sale, possibly on Every Little Thing. What I love about his playing on this song is that it’s like his playing on That Means A Lot, especially the bass notes.
Wonderful breakdown and comparison.
Many thanks!
Gretsch Country Gentleman.....I'm a drummer, don't bash me...HUGE Beatle fan.
I'll never understand why this song wasn't put out as a single. it would have been another #1.
Newbie to the channel... This was awesome!... Thanks for taking the time!...
I think its the strat too.. with flats.
This was another fascinating video from you guys.
Regarding which guitars were used, I always go back to how much of the sound lies in the players hands.
Give the same guitarist two or three guitars and it's going to sound very similar due to it being the same fingers doing the playing.
Keep up the good work.
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I liked this one the most yet!
Nice work guys! What I've seen in the movie click 41:58 George is playing lead guitar on the CG (with flats to my ears), & Lennon playing a J-160E rhythm in Help, but probably Strat (flats) in Studio 2 for rhythm guitar. Revisiting George Martin's notes here is a nice touch here> 20:33 Questioning the 5th Beatle? Agree with Mike (CG) and I wonder what Paul thinks after he trys his CG (classic)?
Yet another legendary episode lads! Never knew about George Martin’s note on John using the Gretsch let alone the Tenny. I was definitely on the Strat train before the episode. Also was 50/50 on the Strat or the Tenny for the guitar used for the solo, but definitely now am 100% on the Strat. Can’t wait for the next one
Yes, the note is interesting. It strikes me that George M. would be unlikely to have made a casual mistake in noting that John played the Gretsch as it was so unusual. In fact its being unusual could well be why George made a specific note of it at all.
Thanks, your videos are GOLD
Awesome video have a great weekend ❤😊
Highly enjoyable. Nice job.