@@roseforyoubabe Kareem would literally just be a classic big man nowadays sabonis would thrive in today’s game or in the nba because he is the original unicorn
Not really a “what if”. At least not what you’re talking about. There’s 100% a “what if” for if he wasn’t so injured his whole career that while he was playing, doctors didn’t even know how he was walking and he qualified for being handicapped his whole NBA career... What you’re saying is a “what if” is him still being the greatest player to ever pick up a basketball. Just in secrecy. Realistically, he was a modern Wilt with better skills
The prototype of jokic. As a Spurs fan he gave us the business. Moved at his own pace and held his own against the best. Respect. Could only imagine him in his prime
i saw his prime in Europe. We are afraid of Jokic now. Sabonis was the next level boss. He had all his passing, handles, and shooting. Was even bigger and a fiercer defender. And he did not treat ball as his side job. What you saw wa slike comparing 91-92 Bird with prime Bird.
Sooooo happy you guys posted this for the youngsters. This was the first “point center” ever in the NBA, nobody had ever seen a man of his size that could pass like that, and shoot
Vlade divac. He had a good perimeter shot with occasional 3. Those eastern European guys were really good. He and sabonis were very athletic. Long time laker fan but loved seeing his game with the kings. That was just good basketball
I worked for the Blazers and was there for most of these highlights. Sabas was my favorite Blazer ever, just a joy to watch. Still have his poster hanging in my garage.
what's frustrating is if the guy was able to leave the Soviet Union and go to the NBA when he was in his prime, i have zero doubt he would have gone down as an all-time great, not just underrated
@@jaysonchen3322 Yeah he was but his skill set is still very unique for the time at which he joined the NBA and what he could do at the 5 position.. Metaphorically speaking, the guy could pass the ball out of his ass 🍊🏀. Still super underrated
We were so dominant in the 1980's basketball as Yugoslavia, nobody could come close. But there was this guy, who could make a difference. Sabonis. Competing either against our national team, or against Cibona with Petrovic, we feared him. We were much better as teams, but he was soooooooo big and capable. Luckily for us, he had a bad temper, too. Which did cost Zalgiris titles against Cibona. But they somehow managed to win a lost game against Yugoslavia at the Olympics, when we had 9 points +. with some 50 seconds to go. If he joined NBA in the 80's, he'd be one of the GOATs, if not the one.
@@dwaynekeenum1916 Bulls didn't have anybody that could stop Sabonis, and on the other hand he was a deffensive force in the sense that he was an incredible disruptor, and at the same time a big contributor to ball distribution... consider how he elevated that 2000 Portland teams when he was healthy and imagine how he could elevate that Drexler squad, with Terry Porter, Buck Williams... the only missing piece there was a consistent center. Not saying Duckworth wasn't a good center, but he was no Sabonis, even injured and old Sabonis... so, don't say "nah" like it's an improbable specullation, because it's not
In Europe in his prime he was the best player ever. Bet in NBA he would’ve done the same. Just imagine the center bigger than Shaq, faster than Shaq, shooting like guard, making passes like PG and being one of the best defensive Center. He was dominating in every aspect.
Uh Shaq in his prime could run faster than a lot of guards and could jump through the roof. Sabonis was not in Shaq’s league athletically, plenty of videos of Sabonis pre injuries and was not Shaq level athletic
Shaquille o Neal changed the game , teams started carrying 3 bigs so they could take turns hacking at Shaq. They also had to start carrying multiple goals in the arena just in case he broke the goal, they had to re engineer the way the goals where made to reinforce them after his rookie year. Think about that for a second lol
My man was in his early 30's when he actually started to play in the NBA with bad knees. Just imagine if he would have been able to play in the NBA 10 years earlier?! He would have been one of the best of all time! I'm glad he's getting some of his flowers through his son Domantas.
One of the best big men of all time. Shame he wasn’t allowed to come to the NBA when he was in his 20’s. Sabonis definitely was a name I heard growing up.
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American. 1993-94 and 1996 were among the BEST times of my life. I vote for one of Sabonis' top plays, from the 1995-96 season: Sonics at Blazers, triple teamed, Sabonis bounce passed to Buck Williams under the basket, and Buck jammed it. That was the difference in the Blazers winning that game.
in 88 Olympics Sabas already was after 2 huge Achilles injuries, not playing more than 1 year before Olympics. Despite that, he played with Admiral equal. In 1986 world championship Sabas owns Admiral with at least 3 superb posters and some blocks. You can find and watch that game too
Walton was so overrated. He was better in college than the NBA. Had like 4 good seasons in the NBA then was always hurt. Most overrated Hall of Famer ever!
He was so fundamentally sound and a constant triple threat. He'd be highly effective now and an absolute nightmare a young Sabonis played in today's game.
Easily my favourite player ever. He carried himself in such away that he knew. He was the most talented weapon ever. He played injured his whole Career in Portland.
Even with those bum knees, Sabas still has the body control and post skill to dominate the floor. Remember people, this dude just a old as Michael Jordan. He should have played in the NBA during the 80s and early 90s. He's already in the twilight of his career when he entered the NBA.
Here because of a buddy of mine who loves Jokic. Shared with him how much Jokic reminds me of Sabonis. Had to remind myself even how ahead of his time this dude was. Just awesome, what a force!
Not even close lol no dominant scorers have a 'stopper' but old Arvydas certainly held his own against prime Shaq, and was one of the very few that Shaq couldn't push around anywhere in the paint and bully.
Such a shame he couldn't have come to the NBA sooner, no doubt would be considered one of the greatest players of all time if that were the case... one of the most proportionate human beings at his height to ever play in the league...
the Jazz Killers,were the Jordan Bulls and this Team, Arvydas Sabonis is one of my most feared Centers facing the Jazz, he could play in the post real well, nobody could block his shot, and he could shoot the 3 really well, never saw him miss a 3. Deadly Center. Always feared him when they faced the Jazz. Underrated Center.
This is when Blazer games we're loud! Last time I went people were basically staring at there phone's and acted annoyed that you were getting into the game. Such a good era of Blazers basketball
Sabonis and Sam Perkins kinda set the blueprint for the type of bigs we have now that can shoot, pass, and do all the typical big man stuff at a high level. Thanks for this video, it's awesome to see his greatness again.
@@__j3rrskioo No. Pacers dont deserve him. There is a lot of hate to Sabonis from pacers fans. They saying that they trade Sabonis the best player of their team before they trading Turner
How the hell is Sabonis only 9 years older than me. I was in my 20s in the year 2000 and Sabonis was like a grandpa. Now I'm 50 and dude still looks older than me in this video, lol. What a beast.
La verdad su llegada fue tardía, su potencial era increíble cuando llegó a la NBA ya era un poco mayor y aún así tenía un nivel altísimo, se que el hubiera no existe pero imagino que de haber llegado más joven habría hecho una historia aún más grande, tuve suerte de verlo jugar.
Some facts: at this point when he joined blazers he was rusty af , wasnt even practicing with the team at all cuz his body was practicaly dead from all the injuries he had. Man was given a gift from above
That 2nd play, the behind the back pass, was the very first play he made in the NBA. I don't care too much about what if - what we got was plenty entertaining.
One of my favorite players ever growing up... I'm a small and play small as a shooter, but I always admired big men who could shoot like this, nevermind all the other things Sabonis gave you in terms of passing, creativity, and actually a pretty good mover considering all his injuries. Jokic doesn't move nearly as well.
What? Luka barely can touch the rim or play decent defense, if you call this domination, Sabas would have been raping everyone out there. And I say this with full respect of Luka.
I believe much more than Doncic. Luka is a great player; but he is a type of player like there were and there will be many others. Sabonis was more .... one of a kind. There were very few players like Sabonis in basket history
Sabonis probably would've had the same success as Jokić or even more if he played in the NBA sooner. He was well out of his prime when he played in the league but still cooked.
Clyde Drexler said the Blazers would've won at least 4 championships and more than likely 6, had Sabonis joined Portland in his prime when he was initially drafted...
He was definitely ahead of his time, 7' 3", could pass like like a guard, and had 3pt range. He'd easily be an all-star nowadays
Nikola Jokic is the spiritual successor to Arvydas Sabonis.
he would never be a true center like kareem
@@roseforyoubabe Kareem would literally just be a classic big man nowadays sabonis would thrive in today’s game or in the nba because he is the original unicorn
He was part of the transition of big men shooting with success. Basically a Jokic in 2000.. he did it all.
Now we have his son who can’t pass or shoot as good as his father😭
Greatest “what if” player of all time
Well, Petrovic and Bias too
@RShCovers prime sabonis would knock lebron the fuck out
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Not really a “what if”. At least not what you’re talking about. There’s 100% a “what if” for if he wasn’t so injured his whole career that while he was playing, doctors didn’t even know how he was walking and he qualified for being handicapped his whole NBA career... What you’re saying is a “what if” is him still being the greatest player to ever pick up a basketball. Just in secrecy. Realistically, he was a modern Wilt with better skills
@@adamm7922 i bet you're blast at parties
The prototype of jokic. As a Spurs fan he gave us the business. Moved at his own pace and held his own against the best. Respect. Could only imagine him in his prime
That bs
@@KhalidAldinormsbee🤓
No... Sabonis was not a "Prototype" he was a well refined master and operating at about half I what he was overseas.
Jokičiu eščio mnogo zemli obosrat štoby stat SABONIS
i saw his prime in Europe. We are afraid of Jokic now. Sabonis was the next level boss. He had all his passing, handles, and shooting. Was even bigger and a fiercer defender. And he did not treat ball as his side job. What you saw wa slike comparing 91-92 Bird with prime Bird.
Sooooo happy you guys posted this for the youngsters. This was the first “point center” ever in the NBA, nobody had ever seen a man of his size that could pass like that, and shoot
Vlade divac. He had a good perimeter shot with occasional 3. Those eastern European guys were really good. He and sabonis were very athletic. Long time laker fan but loved seeing his game with the kings. That was just good basketball
@@joe-zj8js Divac can't touch Sabonis
Bill Laimbeer was there before but he wasn't nearly as good as Sabas!
@@mojebi3804 Agree
Not as good as Jokic tho
I worked for the Blazers and was there for most of these highlights. Sabas was my favorite Blazer ever, just a joy to watch. Still have his poster hanging in my garage.
Most underrated big man of all time.
what's frustrating is if the guy was able to leave the Soviet Union and go to the NBA when he was in his prime, i have zero doubt he would have gone down as an all-time great, not just underrated
Those behind the back passes were delivered with such accuracy it's amazing to see.
Just imagine him without injuries and at his absolute prime.
Right? He still managed to play (and well) to 38
Oh don't you know it? He would've been LETHAL
He was injured and old when he joined NBA.
@@jaysonchen3322 Yeah he was but his skill set is still very unique for the time at which he joined the NBA and what he could do at the 5 position.. Metaphorically speaking, the guy could pass the ball out of his ass 🍊🏀. Still super underrated
@@jaysonchen3322 could have been Jokic if he came to NBA at 22-23
Im 37 i remember watching him growing up he was poetry in motion, so smooth and confident one of the Goats for centers
We were so dominant in the 1980's basketball as Yugoslavia, nobody could come close. But there was this guy, who could make a difference. Sabonis. Competing either against our national team, or against Cibona with Petrovic, we feared him. We were much better as teams, but he was soooooooo big and capable. Luckily for us, he had a bad temper, too. Which did cost Zalgiris titles against Cibona. But they somehow managed to win a lost game against Yugoslavia at the Olympics, when we had 9 points +. with some 50 seconds to go. If he joined NBA in the 80's, he'd be one of the GOATs, if not the one.
The 3 players every opponent in Europe feared back then. Sabonis, Galis and Petrovic.
Time flies wow
If only we had him in his younger days
And he would've been with the clyde drexler team 😬😬
Ya blazers and bad luck with injuries
Could have beat the Bulls with a prime Sabonis in 92 I think
@@zr8693 nah
@@dwaynekeenum1916 Bulls didn't have anybody that could stop Sabonis, and on the other hand he was a deffensive force in the sense that he was an incredible disruptor, and at the same time a big contributor to ball distribution... consider how he elevated that 2000 Portland teams when he was healthy and imagine how he could elevate that Drexler squad, with Terry Porter, Buck Williams... the only missing piece there was a consistent center. Not saying Duckworth wasn't a good center, but he was no Sabonis, even injured and old Sabonis... so, don't say "nah" like it's an improbable specullation, because it's not
In Europe in his prime he was the best player ever. Bet in NBA he would’ve done the same. Just imagine the center bigger than Shaq, faster than Shaq, shooting like guard, making passes like PG and being one of the best defensive Center. He was dominating in every aspect.
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Uh Shaq in his prime could run faster than a lot of guards and could jump through the roof. Sabonis was not in Shaq’s league athletically, plenty of videos of Sabonis pre injuries and was not Shaq level athletic
@@dundalis yea, more skilled than Shaq, but def not faster or more athletic. 2 diff players. He could hold his own against Shaq tho
Shaquille o Neal changed the game , teams started carrying 3 bigs so they could take turns hacking at Shaq. They also had to start carrying multiple goals in the arena just in case he broke the goal, they had to re engineer the way the goals where made to reinforce them after his rookie year. Think about that for a second lol
He def wasn’t faster then Shaq lol
He's not your Vydas, he's not my Vydas- he's Arvydas. What powerful, lumbering talent. My knees ache just watching his highlights.
Сабас красава!!! Помним,скучаем! Здоровья и удачи!!!)))
Im a simple man, i see Sabonis, i click like
By the time he got to the NBA his knees were gone. Had he got there younger he would be an absolute beast
My man was in his early 30's when he actually started to play in the NBA with bad knees. Just imagine if he would have been able to play in the NBA 10 years earlier?! He would have been one of the best of all time! I'm glad he's getting some of his flowers through his son Domantas.
The excitement and energy in the noise the fans make in some of the clips in this video gives me goosebumps! What a legendary player!
I'm Celtics fan and love these highlights
@@packersauburneric3625 I’m a laker fan and I love these highlights?
One of the best big men of all time. Shame he wasn’t allowed to come to the NBA when he was in his 20’s. Sabonis definitely was a name I heard growing up.
Sabonis was ahead of his time...and came into the nba late...he was so talented
Legend. Saw him in europe in the 80s, he was unstoppable. Extremely smart player.
He was a Beast 💪💪
And is a beast on nba2k classic teams lol
@@ericsigersmith2831 waiting for him on 2k21
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American. 1993-94 and 1996 were among the BEST times of my life. I vote for one of Sabonis' top plays, from the 1995-96 season: Sonics at Blazers, triple teamed, Sabonis bounce passed to Buck Williams under the basket, and Buck jammed it. That was the difference in the Blazers winning that game.
Grande sabonis. En España jugó en forum Valladolid y en Real Madrid y dejó su magia. Magnífico jugador y gran persona👍
I'm here because I'm 36 and need to start refining my old-man game and Sabonis is the best example there is of old-man game.
If you want to see what could have been for the Blazers, watch the '88 olympics where he mopped the floor with a prime David Robinson and won gold.
That wasn't the prime David Robinson. The Admiral hadn't even played a single NBA game at that point. He was still in the Navy.
Prime? Calm down he would never be able to handle a prime Robinson
What hes saying is Sabonis took the NBA's #1 draft pick to school.
@@chrishansen8836 i bet prime robinson wouldnt handle a cripple sabonis
in 88 Olympics Sabas already was after 2 huge Achilles injuries, not playing more than 1 year before Olympics. Despite that, he played with Admiral equal. In 1986 world championship Sabas owns Admiral with at least 3 superb posters and some blocks. You can find and watch that game too
Best center in Blazers history.
bill walton?
@@chef7423 No, but it's my opinion. Walton was a beast. Sabonis was way better. The problem is that Portland had only 50% of the real Sabonis.
Ya better than duckworth
Walton was so overrated. He was better in college than the NBA. Had like 4 good seasons in the NBA then was always hurt. Most overrated Hall of Famer ever!
@ZR 86 he brought the blazers their only chip in a Portland that no one gave a shit about and no one wanted to play for
He was so fundamentally sound and a constant triple threat. He'd be highly effective now and an absolute nightmare a young Sabonis played in today's game.
When Sabonis came to the NBA he was 31 years old and his knees were shattered. If I had arrived 5 years earlier I would have crushed them all
sabonis before injures th-cam.com/video/S1LMU2rZ3XA/w-d-xo.html
Loved this player! In his prime, his team Zalgiris was the only one who was able to bit Soviet Red Army's team CSKA
Qartvelebs gvevaseba sabonisi :)))
👍👍👍😀
You forgot Aris, with Nick Gallis was the most dominant team.
@@pixytorres7117 Здесь говорят о чемпионате ссср.
Me and my friend Marc used to dunk on each other on closer hoops and yell AAAARRRRVYYYYDASSS! Miss you Marc
Even when soreness slowed him down he was still a beautiful player to watch.
Such a beautiful player to watch.
Easily my favourite player ever. He carried himself in such away that he knew. He was the most talented weapon ever. He played injured his whole Career in Portland.
Even with those bum knees, Sabas still has the body control and post skill to dominate the floor.
Remember people, this dude just a old as Michael Jordan. He should have played in the NBA during the 80s and early 90s. He's already in the twilight of his career when he entered the NBA.
He's 1 year younger than MJ.
"Sabonis, with the deposit!" LMFNAO. The laughs just don't stop coming with Sabonis. What's crazy about it, is that the guy's skills are remarkable!
One of the all time greats.
Loved him and wish the beat the Lakers in 2000 and wish they won in 1999 vs blazers
amazing big man...
don't see many like him..he is the whole deal...he was a nightmare in European league..the great Sabonis !!
He is the one who knows how to play basketball, knows what to do in a team. Not just a centre, he is the player.
Here because of a buddy of mine who loves Jokic. Shared with him how much Jokic reminds me of Sabonis. Had to remind myself even how ahead of his time this dude was. Just awesome, what a force!
Amazing! Amazing! A player got into NBA as a starting center after lost 70% of athleticism.
Shows how good he was before the injuries.. If he came to the Blazers healthy no injuries we are talking about a possible dynasty..
More like this blazers, thx in advance from Lithuania
The Shaq stopper. My favorite player growing up.
Not even close lol no dominant scorers have a 'stopper' but old Arvydas certainly held his own against prime Shaq, and was one of the very few that Shaq couldn't push around anywhere in the paint and bully.
Shaq, the second best Center of the 90s, was very dominant and Sabonis "sadly" couldn´t really stop him, cause he simply wasn´t fast enough.
@@theotherphoneplease598 Shaq couldn't stop sabonis either, other than getting him in foul trouble.
Yao was the true Shaq stopper.
rodman is the shaq stopper but sabonis played him well.
Such a shame he couldn't have come to the NBA sooner, no doubt would be considered one of the greatest players of all time if that were the case... one of the most proportionate human beings at his height to ever play in the league...
the Jazz Killers,were the Jordan Bulls and this Team, Arvydas Sabonis is one of my most feared Centers facing the Jazz, he could play in the post real well, nobody could block his shot, and he could shoot the 3 really well, never saw him miss a 3. Deadly Center. Always feared him when they faced the Jazz. Underrated Center.
He was so bad at 3 pts
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This is when Blazer games we're loud! Last time I went people were basically staring at there phone's and acted annoyed that you were getting into the game. Such a good era of Blazers basketball
For me one of the best centers i have ever seen
We havent seen him played in his prime. When he entered the NBA, he could not jump anymore.
Our legend is the reason I follow the Blazers to this day!!!;)
Jokic must’ve loved watching him play. Had to be inspired
Sabonis and Sam Perkins kinda set the blueprint for the type of bigs we have now that can shoot, pass, and do all the typical big man stuff at a high level. Thanks for this video, it's awesome to see his greatness again.
indeed, and bill lambier
Nobody in history like Arvydas Sabonis!!!!!
Jokic is his spiritual successor.
2024 still watching this!
Damn. Like father like son.
ONE OF MY IDOLS
Bring his son Domantas Sabonis to Portland Trail Blazers !!!
as a pacers fan, we’ll keep him but thanks
Yes as a pacer fan we are keeping him
Never trading unless contracts
@@__j3rrskioo No. Pacers dont deserve him. There is a lot of hate to Sabonis from pacers fans. They saying that they trade Sabonis the best player of their team before they trading Turner
How the hell is Sabonis only 9 years older than me. I was in my 20s in the year 2000 and Sabonis was like a grandpa. Now I'm 50 and dude still looks older than me in this video, lol. What a beast.
I saw Sabonis plays whe he was 20 years old. If in that time he went to NBA, now he should be the best center of the history.
Sorry for my english.
He was everything, I loved seeing him bewilder any big trying to guard him.
One of the greatest basketball players ever!
Sure that dunk was not artistic, but it is one of the most powerful dunks of all time.
La verdad su llegada fue tardía, su potencial era increíble cuando llegó a la NBA ya era un poco mayor y aún así tenía un nivel altísimo, se que el hubiera no existe pero imagino que de haber llegado más joven habría hecho una historia aún más grande, tuve suerte de verlo jugar.
If he'd only came to the nba during his prime/younger years, what a dominant center he could have been..
As a kid growing up I remember his beautiful passes
Loved this player! I was a big fan of the Blazers at that time. Really ahead of his time..or the NBA's.
Some facts: at this point when he joined blazers he was rusty af , wasnt even practicing with the team at all cuz his body was practicaly dead from all the injuries he had. Man was given a gift from above
My favorite Blazer ever and Terry Porter oh and Buck Williams and RIP Jerome Kersey.
That 2nd play, the behind the back pass, was the very first play he made in the NBA. I don't care too much about what if - what we got was plenty entertaining.
One of my favorite players ever growing up... I'm a small and play small as a shooter, but I always admired big men who could shoot like this, nevermind all the other things Sabonis gave you in terms of passing, creativity, and actually a pretty good mover considering all his injuries. Jokic doesn't move nearly as well.
he would be the Jokic of his era if only he started earlier in the NBA.
What would jokic do to those 80s and 90s dudes would be crime. He is the upgraded mix of Larry Legend and Arvidas for sure
😂the beginning and the announcement of the Joker party!!!
7.3 shooting 3's like guard.Rare at that time
And passed like a God
I'll never get bored with watching him...
0:40 Gary Payton's reaction after the behind the back pass lol
Da ragazzino lui è stato uno di quelli che mi ha fatto innamorare del basket!!!!
I see Jokic in his game. So sad, he joined the team in his 30s.
Allan Paolo Alingod and the Soviet Union kept overworking and injuring him
Nope. You see Sabonis in Jokic's game
How you see Jokic in his game if he is older than Jokic?
His son is doing pretty good as well.
@@jimothan5702 He is not even close to Jokic
Much respect to one of the greats!!
If he came in the NBA healthy and at his prime he would've dominated in the same way Luka Doncic is dominating now.
What? Luka barely can touch the rim or play decent defense, if you call this domination, Sabas would have been raping everyone out there. And I say this with full respect of Luka.
I believe much more than Doncic. Luka is a great player; but he is a type of player like there were and there will be many others. Sabonis was more .... one of a kind. There were very few players like Sabonis in basket history
Luka wouldn`t have shit on Sabonis! NBA is mad soft nowadays!
“Not MY vydas. Not YOUR vydas....but Arvydas Sabonis”
That's how he was seen in the soviet union, and they definitely over worked his ass causing injury
Visual effects used make game legendary !!
The Joker is literally Sabonis reborn 🤯
Such a treat watching him in person.
I immediately click on this video to see how good he was and instantly see him take Shaq to school and dunk on Green. !😳🔥
Imagine if you had him in his younger days + gave Drazen a bigger role??? Sheeeeesh 😳
Sabas best player of history Ussr.
Lithuania!!
LIETUVA
Viva Portugal And best center in the world for all time
Now look at his son killing it in the nba
Sabonis probably would've had the same success as Jokić or even more if he played in the NBA sooner. He was well out of his prime when he played in the league but still cooked.
I love watching this man
Imagine him with 22yo (when he was drafted by Portland) and no injuries 🤯
If Savas dont have injuries ,he was in the top 5 centers of all time.
man, this is only 50% of sabonis. and still so fckin good
Clyde Drexler said the Blazers would've won at least 4 championships and more than likely 6, had Sabonis joined Portland in his prime when he was initially drafted...
no idea why but I just teared up watching this
A very skilled big man who passes skills was showtime and I know he started all that center shooting 3 pointers
Ive scored 62 points with him on 2k21
Te admiro mucho Sabonis eres una gran persona en todos los sentidos!
th-cam.com/video/S1LMU2rZ3XA/w-d-xo.html
Injuries robbed him of some great years but he was still effective with his court awareness.