What services might you need when building a SaaS product?
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00:00 - Introduction and Mind Mapping
00:56 - Hosting and Deployment
01:26 - Authentication
01:56 - Logging and Analytics
02:41 - Databases
03:18 - Emails and Notifications
04:08 - SMS Notifications
04:52 - Websocket Events
05:15 - File Storage
06:00 - Payment Processing
06:35 - Documentation and Diagrams
07:04 - Version Control and CI/CD
07:55 - Issue Tracking and Project Management
08:27 - Communication and Collaboration
09:28 - Search and Semantic Search
11:29 - API Keys
12:42 - Feedback and Support
13:49 - Design and Prototyping
14:23 - Conclusion
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I'm building a Micro-SaaS and this kind of content is extremely valuable. It does not matter if your project is small, you still gonna need some services and a lot of effort to make everything production ready. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
Glad it was helpful!
@@WebDevCody This is so pro-AWS list. Create a list that actually covers most major providers. At the end of the day, business runs on profits and cost cutting, not particular technology.
@@wennwenn1422 what services would you like to see added to this diagram?
Which micro saas you build ? Is it going profitable?
Man, you are really helping with all the videos that you are doing, keep it up!, I give you all the token of appreciation with the work you do.
Just wanted to say thank you ❤ I am a junior dev and your videos will make me senior soon I feel.
I can't believe how good this video is, great work!
This is a great video, Cody. Thank you so much. I'm a junior dev and I have learnt a ton from you sharing your experience.
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Thank you so much for your videos!.liked and commented. I hope this channel receives the recognition it deserves.
Launching my first web app next week, this couldn’t come at a better time. Thank you Cody 🤝
Whatchya building?
These videos are very helpful, as one gets lot of breadth knowledge of all the various services out there!
That's a great topic that not many people touched, you should make a series about it.
Great video! If you want to handle big traffic you gonna need some load balancer, also Memcached, Redis, etc for caching. Probably AWS provides that also :)
Two mentions needed here. Used in production where I work.
Fullstory, spy on users. See what they are seeing, see their rage clicks, see how your product is being used/misused.
Sentry. Ever had a stack trace happen in an API service? With sentry that stack trace is visible and you can see the variables that was set at the time. Add context. This tool is a game changer!
Excellent video. I’ll be coming back to this video a lot.
This is gold Cody, great video!
This video is pure gold man 👌
I feel like Supabase is super underrated. Handles deployment (sort of, cloud functions), Database, Authentication, and File storage. Just the file storage alone would make the entire thing worth the price i think ($25 for 100 gigs)
Really Underated
I use supabase for their free database, but their authentication often sends password reset emails to the junk folder from what I’ve seen I’m not a fan with row level security, and their typescript support for their api is wonky.
I doesn't feel as amazing as Vercel or Uploadthing for sure yeah. @@WebDevCody
I was also surprised of not seeing supabase there, I’ve also been using them for a personal project, using all their auth, storage, and database. So far I’m quite happy with their product!
With that said, and considering Cody’s comment, I’m not fully in production yet, so I’ll have to test if I have problems with the password emails. I’m planning to use Resend for that.
@@WebDevCody their authentication emails are for testing only, they support upto 4 mails/hour i guess, we need to link it ot a email service provider for production
This is great. I love seeing the architecture laid out on a mind map like that. Pretty wild how many services we use. I would add "Automated code review" service like SonarCloud, possibly under CI/CD or in it's own section.
Love this man. I believe we want more videos about building saas/indie hacker stuff 🔥
Thank you for this overview... loved it
Hey @WebDevCody … can you please make more content like this where you talk about the architecture and components of what it takes to deploy an application. I think this is where a lot of people who understand how to code get stuck. They don’t know (including myself) what the necessary components are to make an application and what it takes to put them together. This is extremely valuable. Thank you so much.
Every time I see the diagram thumbnail I know its going to be good lmao.
Really good breakdown, thank you.
This was an extremely helpful video. Thanks.
Thank you very much for this map! I might have added CDN's in hosting and/or Redis/Cache in DB or Searching sections, but they are not as mandatory as the rest!
Yeah for sure those can be important as your app gets a lot of traffic
SaaS marketer here, so all this is Greek to me but I’m trying to learn :). I would add a tool like Google Analytics for your marketing site, as well as SEO tools like Ahrefs and SurferSEO for keyword research and on-page optimization. Also recommend publishing content on your marketing site so some sort of CMS like Wordpress or Webflow.
exactly what i needed, thanks
Cheers from Brazil!
Once again, very helpful.
Good job bubba!!!!❤
Thank you dude, it's really helpful..
Thanks for sharing this! Secret managers could be a good addition here. The only one I'm familiar with is Azure Key Vaults, but I'm curious to know if you've used others before
AWS had this many things didnt knew that thanks i kinda wanna explore some of these many things now
Developers are afraid that AI is going to replace them. But the reality is that SaaS tools are going to replace them much quicker. When you realize that 90% of the things apps need already exists as a service. I imagine in 10 years most of the "developers" left will just be doing plug-and-play work.
They wont "replace" SWE's for 3 reasons -
1. Guess who develops, maintains and constantly upgrades those SAAS? This also applies to "managed" instances of otherwise self-hostable DBs, VMs, etc.
2. A SAAS is always more expensive than open sourced / one-time license software. On a low enough scale, the money saved might not be worth the effort, but the higher the scale, the more likely a company to switch to self-managed solutions, unless they managed to get themselves vendor-locked early on.
3. Integrations might be easier than development, but it still requires using the 3rd party libraries (or writing API wrappers yourself), testing, and some other dev work.
SaaS can generalize solutions not create custom ones. When I say "custom", I am not talking about UI, logos etc. I mean the core business problems. Companies goes to as much extend as possible to not disclose their business affairs. Your predictions are incorrect.
Great video, thank you.
Underrated content
People that value their time and are serious about building something will definitely value this video!
yes! more vids like this please!!!
Your channel is a gold mine :))
amazing
not mentioning supabase is wild. and rest is valid, good video!
What's your opinion on selling a saas that is built as lets say dockerized instances for each customer vs having one system with multitenancy approach?
I started with a multitenant approach and realized that it gets more complex as having one database with tenant_Ids everywhere. Also when it comes to logging and dashboard usage, I would like to tell which customer is doing what on which system.
But the thing I like with the tenant approach is that getting a payment and setting it up can be easy for the customer and then you have the ability to switch between tenants which is something i've seen on another software.
Keep in mind. I am leaning towards getting rid of the multitenant system just in case a customer asks for an on-premise solution.
what should in ts if i wanna fetch a big data in react and it is too big that i can’t put a type for it
On the sales side: when you show the product demotime will send a highlight-reel video made from that exact demo/meeting
I do the same to plan my next project, Though I use markdown instead of maps.
Thank you for this great video. It would be really nice if you could make this miro board public and share it with us, it would be really helpful to come back to it when needed.
I’ll do that later
miro.com/app/board/uXjVMiRMzrc=/?share_link_id=770278043531
@@WebDevCody Thank you!
Great content. Will you keep it updated? I think it is missing some DBaaS like Railway, PlanetScale and others that I dont know.
yeah I can try as I think of new things
I think it's worth mentioning caching service something like Redis in this category.
Thanks, been going ham on my SaaS for the last two months. For the websockets, the only downside of Pusher is as your app scales they will charge you, is Socket io the easiest to use for a solot dev after? Any other reccomendations?
I’d just use aws websockets, it’s very cheap
Great video! I liked the depth and variety of topics covered, and as mentioned in another comment, I would have mentioned supabase a couple of times for different services :)
Has anyone tried resend for sending emails? I’m about to give them a try since apparently they integrate very seamlessly with react/nextjs.
can you provide this flow chart in PDF form please?
I think you could add tools for Infrastructure as Code such as Terraform
Good idea
may i know whats wrong with firebase to be out of databases , auth and storage 😂 ? i use it all the time in my side projects, as well as we use it at work in a ( SaaS ) company
Because I just didn’t think about it at the time. Each category has like dozens of services
Can u make a video of how to use clerk production??
What is the best saas platform u recommend except bubble? In bubble u don't export source code which is bad. If u don't own the code u don't own the app.
This is awesome! Can you share this Miro Board?
miro.com/app/board/uXjVMiRMzrc=/?share_link_id=770278043531
So to have info on how many people checked the SAAS what is the best tool ? And why not talking about tags that gave you a better vision on what the users use the most
Google analytics works ok, but there are other services that are GDPR compliant. Often you can just view api logs and see what endpoints are invoked the most to see what features are useful
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What will the monthly bill be, after the bouquet of these necessary tools is put together for a one man team??
Idk, depends on which services you decide you need. At the very least you’ll want hosting and a database, so probably $40 a month
7:50 Why not to mention Ansible and Gitlab pipelines?
In terms of payment processing, I'd like to throw LemonSqueezy out there.
I need to look into it, I hear good things
Hello, I have a question, please. If you have no coding knowledge at all (0 knowledge) and want to create a SaaS product, is it better to use "Bubble," as I have seen during my research, or is it better to learn the basics of coding and dive into the creation process?
From Morocco thanks for the video !
it depends on how long you think it'll take you to learn to code. unless you're super smart, I would expect at least 3-6 months before you even understand anything about coding well enough to build a SaaS. You should still learn to code, but if you want to focus on the business part of things, maybe try bubble? idk I've never used it.
@@WebDevCody Thank you so much for your response, I just joined your Discord chanel. Thanks again !
is it better to use these individual services or something like supabase?
The less services you use the easier it is to maintain imo
Maybe it’s a topic you’ve broached before, but why isn’t aws listed as a hosting option?
This isn’t an exhaustive list
can you show how you use sst ? how you deploy nextjs app to aws
I have a video on it I think
Is hosting docker a valid option for saas products ?
Sure
What is axios fm? I couldn't find ANYTHING about it
Axiom.co, sorry probably a typo
Really surprised algolia wasnt mentioned in the search section
I believe it, I didn’t put much effort into this diagram
dang do you heart every comment
Yes
Funny
Firebase/Google cloud does most of this
But no mention
Is there a link to this miro board?
I can try to remember to upload one
miro.com/app/board/uXjVMiRMzrc=/?share_link_id=770278043531
missing the admin pannels stuff / CMS
Yo Can we have the miro link?
miro.com/app/board/uXjVMiRMzrc=/?share_link_id=770278043531
Did you missed app analytics?
Probably
is SEO a web dev thing?
Yeah, so people can find your site on google and mind when searching keywords
Is it a bad idea to use Patreon for my payments?
Don’t they charge a large %? Stripe is like 3% plus $0.50
some of those services you can just build on your own like auth and email, going to use to many services is going to be a nightmare
Are you talking about cost or developer experience
Sending emails yourself using nodemailer is a not a production ready approach imo. Building your own auth with next-auth works well without needing a service. Anything with MFA seems like a waste of time building yourself if you just want to focus on your products main value add. But yes, you can handle a lot of these yourself if that’s where you want to invest your time to save $20 a month. If a average developer makes on $40-60 and hour, if you can add auth or emails in under and hour, you would have saved time just using an existing service
@@WebDevCodyi agree that adding these is easy but when you start scaling and you need custom you wont have control as having your own, also using nodemailer in prod i dont see issue, i'm using it all good
@@ThomazMartinez Did you have any issue using nodemailer ? transactional and marketing. Im also worried about customization , logging and filters in my application use case, but my experience is not enough to take a decision yet. also what are you using for templating, sorry for the so many questions but you are the first to see using NM in production without issues
@@cpc4466no issues
You only need all of those when you already have paid users. Not before.
All you need is a vps with a monolith, you dont need all this microservice nonsense. Focus on finishing you projects and code rather than becoming a microsystems manager.
It all has trade offs. If you’re ok with a vps hosting all your stuff, then do it. I’d personally rather rely on a few of these services to handle file storage, emails, logging, auth, database.
@@WebDevCody file storage I can understand but using a full stack framework usually has those other services: email, auth and whatnot already covered for you. Good content in general btw
Cloudflare R2, PlanetScale, Firebase, ....
Using a billion saas tools to build a saas tool.. 🙃
aka nocode development
You don’t need to, but you’ll just be spending time building, hosting, or managing something yourself. Sometimes it make sense to roll your own, but often it doesn’t.
SaaS is going to replace developers faster than AI