TIMESTAMPS (faction and sectorials within these sections), but everything is in order of how they appear on web-based army6. Individual sectorials should be easy to find. PanO - 3:13 YuJing - 16:05 Ariadna - 25:27 Haqqislam - 39:58 Nomads - 50:38 Combined - 1:01:08 Aleph - 1:13:30 Tohaa - 1:21:57 NA2 - 1:25:00 0-12 - 1:47:54
Uxia = pronounced "AAshia". PS= that Bakunin list in real world $$$ is quite expensive, That's one reason why the RiotGrls are so popular, I agree the Lizard is not too bad. Solid Corig and Tusk lists.
How do you run lists like the Shasvastii or O-12 where a bunch of the models don't exist? Are you allowed to just proxy them with whatever other models you have?
In a game with friends, you are usually free to proxy with whatever you want (just make sure that the opponent always knows what proxies as what). In an official ITS tournament, you can proxy as well, but with the following restrictions: - The miniature you use must be from CB or composed mainly of parts from CB miniatures - The miniature you use must have the same Silhouette value - And again, the opponent always has to know which miniature proxies which unit. But proxying (and kitbashing your own sculpts) in infinity is really no problem in general due to the silhouette system :)
I'm so confused and i have questions. I want to play Haqqislam. I love their design and everything. So far so good. The only list i might be able to play in any reasonable amount of time is the RAMAH list, because i already have a few minis of those from the red veil box. On to my questions: 1. Is infinity played like warhammer, where minis have to be equipped with what they carry (get what you see) ? 2. If above is the case: what do i need to do to get some of the options listed, i can't find the minis. 3. Either i am incredibly stupid or some units are hidden in boxes or worst case not available any longer. How the heck do i find them? So this is mostly about: How do i find the apropriate mini for the list. The Infinity store is not exactly helpful and sometimes the boxing is highly inconvinient. like: Yes i can get two Shihab in one box, but one is with missile launcher and one is with HMG (which your list asks for) - I mean i am not afraid to cut up pewter minis and mod them. Did that 20 years ago with 40k but that would be highly unconvinient to say the least and right now this is the main hurdle that keeps me from actually getting my hands on the minis and start painting.
"Is infinity played like warhammer, where minis have to be equipped with what they carry (get what you see) ?" No, not all loadouts have models, and there's a rule stating that you can proxy using other infinity models as long as they have the same silhouette size and you let your opponent know in advance. "Either i am incredibly stupid or some units are hidden in boxes or worst case not available any longer. How the heck do i find them?" 3rd party sellers is probably your best bet. Since most are limited edition, or just very old.
It seems like you are very much aiming for 15-18 orders per army. What I had been told was that 15 was a very swarmy army and that a normal army was more in the 10-12 order range. Have I been building wrong by not including more orders?
( For context, I'm Vaulsc's most frequent opponent ) 15 isn't massively swarmy. I think as a guideline 10 is small, 13-15 is middling, and 17 or more is spam. Note that I've used everything from 10 to 21 models effectively. The swarm lists are his personal preference. He favours lists which can have massive active turns then hide their important models, and still have the orders to win if half the army's cheerleaders die. He does play Limited Insertion lists sometimes, but usually has a specific plan for it. Personally I favour lists with more depth of quality troops, so it can still act effectively after losing the first couple of good troops: I think the 18-20 order lists get crippled too easily once the best troop in each group dies. I usually have 13-16 with some cheap disposable AROs filling most of group two. Instead of fully hiding my troops I favour setting up careful AROs and using my higher quality troops to pin down the enemy. I think that middling sized lists are most reliable, since they have both the depth to cope with key models being assassinated and cheap AROs to slow the enemy. And ESPECIALLY for a new-ish player, don't try to have two full groups. Have a full main group, and maybe some primarily defensive troops in group two: snipers, warcors, etc. Also maybe something like an airdrop in group two, planning to move it across to group one later in the game once something's died to clear space for it in the group.
I would also add that having 11 or 12 orders can be unhelpful because it gives you a second combat group. That combat group often lacks the orders to do something useful. Moreover, if you only have 10 orders, you are immune to losing 2 orders to the strategic use of command tokens if you happen to go first.
TIMESTAMPS (faction and sectorials within these sections), but everything is in order of how they appear on web-based army6. Individual sectorials should be easy to find.
PanO - 3:13
YuJing - 16:05
Ariadna - 25:27
Haqqislam - 39:58
Nomads - 50:38
Combined - 1:01:08
Aleph - 1:13:30
Tohaa - 1:21:57
NA2 - 1:25:00
0-12 - 1:47:54
I'm not sure that Tak list has aged well. Can we get an update?
Love your videos, so depth, so no bias but full of energy. Grats!
Lots of interesting ideas here and evidence of a lot of effort. Thanks for your efforts with the community.
This is actually a great content. We are already pumping new players full of your content, this becomes a new standard now (disclaimers noted),
Should revisit this and do one for kosmo :)
I really like the idea of Military Orders. I'm going to try that out!
this is great. thank you for doing this!!
Thanks so much for this and all the hard work you put into this game. Cheers!
Wow this is incredibly helpful, thank you!
This is excellent as a help to starting a new faction! thank you.
The best infinity content on youtube thanks and Congratz
Vaul, you going to do a similar thing when N$ hits? Would be awesome
1:41:07 Aelis Keesan in a Tri-Core Triad would be BS 15 *four* dice with a Viral Combi. Combi is B3, not B4 :P
Uxia = pronounced "AAshia". PS= that Bakunin list in real world $$$ is quite expensive, That's one reason why the RiotGrls are so popular, I agree the Lizard is not too bad. Solid Corig and Tusk lists.
Love the video thanks for the lists.
Monstrucker miniature? I have been looking around for one, what would you use please?
fave for the army codes
How do you run lists like the Shasvastii or O-12 where a bunch of the models don't exist? Are you allowed to just proxy them with whatever other models you have?
In a game with friends, you are usually free to proxy with whatever you want (just make sure that the opponent always knows what proxies as what). In an official ITS tournament, you can proxy as well, but with the following restrictions:
- The miniature you use must be from CB or composed mainly of parts from CB miniatures
- The miniature you use must have the same Silhouette value
- And again, the opponent always has to know which miniature proxies which unit.
But proxying (and kitbashing your own sculpts) in infinity is really no problem in general due to the silhouette system :)
I'm so confused and i have questions.
I want to play Haqqislam. I love their design and everything. So far so good. The only list i might be able to play in any reasonable amount of time is the RAMAH list, because i already have a few minis of those from the red veil box. On to my questions:
1. Is infinity played like warhammer, where minis have to be equipped with what they carry (get what you see) ?
2. If above is the case: what do i need to do to get some of the options listed, i can't find the minis.
3. Either i am incredibly stupid or some units are hidden in boxes or worst case not available any longer. How the heck do i find them?
So this is mostly about: How do i find the apropriate mini for the list. The Infinity store is not exactly helpful and sometimes the boxing is highly inconvinient. like: Yes i can get two Shihab in one box, but one is with missile launcher and one is with HMG (which your list asks for) - I mean i am not afraid to cut up pewter minis and mod them. Did that 20 years ago with 40k but that would be highly unconvinient to say the least and right now this is the main hurdle that keeps me from actually getting my hands on the minis and start painting.
"Is infinity played like warhammer, where minis have to be equipped with what they carry (get what you see) ?"
No, not all loadouts have models, and there's a rule stating that you can proxy using other infinity models as long as they have the same silhouette size and you let your opponent know in advance.
"Either i am incredibly stupid or some units are hidden in boxes or worst case not available any longer. How the heck do i find them?"
3rd party sellers is probably your best bet. Since most are limited edition, or just very old.
It seems like you are very much aiming for 15-18 orders per army. What I had been told was that 15 was a very swarmy army and that a normal army was more in the 10-12 order range. Have I been building wrong by not including more orders?
( For context, I'm Vaulsc's most frequent opponent )
15 isn't massively swarmy. I think as a guideline 10 is small, 13-15 is middling, and 17 or more is spam. Note that I've used everything from 10 to 21 models effectively.
The swarm lists are his personal preference. He favours lists which can have massive active turns then hide their important models, and still have the orders to win if half the army's cheerleaders die. He does play Limited Insertion lists sometimes, but usually has a specific plan for it.
Personally I favour lists with more depth of quality troops, so it can still act effectively after losing the first couple of good troops: I think the 18-20 order lists get crippled too easily once the best troop in each group dies. I usually have 13-16 with some cheap disposable AROs filling most of group two. Instead of fully hiding my troops I favour setting up careful AROs and using my higher quality troops to pin down the enemy.
I think that middling sized lists are most reliable, since they have both the depth to cope with key models being assassinated and cheap AROs to slow the enemy.
And ESPECIALLY for a new-ish player, don't try to have two full groups. Have a full main group, and maybe some primarily defensive troops in group two: snipers, warcors, etc. Also maybe something like an airdrop in group two, planning to move it across to group one later in the game once something's died to clear space for it in the group.
I would also add that having 11 or 12 orders can be unhelpful because it gives you a second combat group.
That combat group often lacks the orders to do something useful. Moreover, if you only have 10 orders, you are immune to losing 2 orders to the strategic use of command tokens if you happen to go first.
is there a JSA one too?
sorry should have read the Google drive file first :)
very nice man!