Can't believe I beat this boss legit with a Grommash deck that used dark spear trolls with poison to wittle down and eventually kill both side gargoyles, then chimera and whelp eggs to kill backline and eventually scrape the win with what had to be the hardest heroic so far! I'm definitely using your tactic now for the rest of the leaders.
This build for beasts was difficult for me for some reason. I tried to have a few free chimaera with chalgra, put quilboar, ghoul, murlocs, eggs, safe pilot and chimaera, 1 phase the same and 2 my 2 chimaeras just ate this poor dude.
Beast one is harder when you are higher level then what you are, The pilot + whelps trigger it sooner, so the boss comes with pyro on the same time and if you hold back you get overwhelmed. (avg level 24) not sure what to do/change
There are so many variants that it's hard to say based on the description, but you can try to contest the chest and delay the Eggs+Safe, and kill the Pyro before the boss comes, or you can try to delay or kill the Pyro to get the boss in first. Blizzard can potentially make space for something t handle the Pyro, or you might be able to use it to kill the Pyro.
@@OldGuardian I changed out blizzard for execute, so that i had less gold to spend, and that ended up the key. Funny how levels sometimes can make it harder! I do like you picking this up again! Huge help for me as a limited time player, I can just look you up and copy paste rofl.. wauw that sounds.. yea.. both good and bad :)
Hello friend! All good? I have a problem. In the Horde round, the AI plays a Pyromancer at the top, different from how it is in your video, which completely changes the round. Can you help? Thanks for your help as always!
Cara, quando rola isso infelizmente tu tem q descobrir uma estratégia por ti mesmo. Acho que não tem nenhuma maneira confiável de mudar essa configuração inicial. Dale gremio
For others who might be having hard time - I did this using Abomination and Frostwolf Shaman giving him Armor. Then shooting it down with Pyromancer. Abomination was tanky enough to be able to survive Gish and other attackers, Pyromancer had good enough damage to shoot down Gish. Think I had Abomination lvl 25 (using Diamond slot), other minions around lvl 21-22
The guide works fine, however I'm seeing when I have whelp eggs and SAFE in my opening hand, I almost 1 shot this boss. Several times these minis are at the bottom of my deck and cycling through to get them is when I struggle
If you need them in your opening hand, you can change their positions in your army after the random seed for the boss has been determined. For Heroic fights, the opening hands are randomized only after each win, so they will stay the same until you beat the boss. The hands are based on the army slots, not the specific minis, so simply replace a mini in your opening hand with the mini you want there, and you will have it immediately.
@@OldGuardian What do you mean, by “random seed”? I won while using Murk-Eye’s army for the Beast family. However, I’m using the strategies you gave to the other 4 armies, and the seeds that I’m getting are different then the ones you had in your fights.
@@OldGuardian So I can’t seem to get my Bat Rider to pop Gish, like I would want, do to a Pyromancer, that spawns from the right spawning zone, followed right after a Ghoul. And I do the same things you drop, Witch Doctor then Bat Rider after, but they both get destroyed immediately. I’m stuck.
@@OldGuardian ok thx :) Level ist >22. very Strange … before Patch it works very well and now After Patch ele dies fast What I Like to say: your Guides are Great and you make a Great work here - many thanks!! I am Big Fan of you
Your starting hand and the opponent's starting hand are randomized at the start of the game. In campaign missions, this randomization is done once, and then it stays the same until you beat the boss. Therefore, when you are defeated, you and the boss both have the same minis available on your next attempt. You can then adjust your strategy to accommodate what the boss can do. The boss does not always play all the same minis: what you do affects its decisions. But it has the same hand, so the same minis available.
Note that the randomizer applies to army slots, not specific minis. If you change the minis in the slots, you can manipulate your starting hand. Old Guardian has made a video about this. ;)
Can't believe I beat this boss legit with a Grommash deck that used dark spear trolls with poison to wittle down and eventually kill both side gargoyles, then chimera and whelp eggs to kill backline and eventually scrape the win with what had to be the hardest heroic so far! I'm definitely using your tactic now for the rest of the leaders.
Wow on fire with these guides! I’ll be excited to see what you do for Baron that’s where I’m stuck now
thank you very very very much! best video on this boss on youtube and was even more helpfull then your other videos. finally beat that boss!
Waiting for last plaguelands bosses and blackrock ! I'm having troubles 😅
Thank you so much. Finally I can move on 😅
I remember doing normal basically the same way. It feels great when you pull it off, but my minis are a bit under level right now.
Well played, very smart strategy
This build for beasts was difficult for me for some reason. I tried to have a few free chimaera with chalgra, put quilboar, ghoul, murlocs, eggs, safe pilot and chimaera, 1 phase the same and 2 my 2 chimaeras just ate this poor dude.
Strats been patched . He does not focus Earth Elemental anymore. He will leave Afro to turn around and swipe harpies
There has been no patch to change Gish's behavior.
Beast one is harder when you are higher level then what you are, The pilot + whelps trigger it sooner, so the boss comes with pyro on the same time and if you hold back you get overwhelmed. (avg level 24) not sure what to do/change
There are so many variants that it's hard to say based on the description, but you can try to contest the chest and delay the Eggs+Safe, and kill the Pyro before the boss comes, or you can try to delay or kill the Pyro to get the boss in first. Blizzard can potentially make space for something t handle the Pyro, or you might be able to use it to kill the Pyro.
@@OldGuardian I changed out blizzard for execute, so that i had less gold to spend, and that ended up the key. Funny how levels sometimes can make it harder! I do like you picking this up again! Huge help for me as a limited time player, I can just look you up and copy paste rofl.. wauw that sounds.. yea.. both good and bad :)
Well Played 👍Gish remains unmoving as it turns out 😝
Hello friend! All good?
I have a problem.
In the Horde round, the AI plays a Pyromancer at the top, different from how it is in your video, which completely changes the round.
Can you help?
Thanks for your help as always!
Cara, quando rola isso infelizmente tu tem q descobrir uma estratégia por ti mesmo. Acho que não tem nenhuma maneira confiável de mudar essa configuração inicial.
Dale gremio
I’m struggling to kill Gish with Undead. The tactics OG used is not working for me. Would someone have a good idea for Cenarion family perhaps?
For others who might be having hard time - I did this using Abomination and Frostwolf Shaman giving him Armor. Then shooting it down with Pyromancer. Abomination was tanky enough to be able to survive Gish and other attackers, Pyromancer had good enough damage to shoot down Gish. Think I had Abomination lvl 25 (using Diamond slot), other minions around lvl 21-22
you saved my life
The guide works fine, however I'm seeing when I have whelp eggs and SAFE in my opening hand, I almost 1 shot this boss. Several times these minis are at the bottom of my deck and cycling through to get them is when I struggle
If you need them in your opening hand, you can change their positions in your army after the random seed for the boss has been determined. For Heroic fights, the opening hands are randomized only after each win, so they will stay the same until you beat the boss. The hands are based on the army slots, not the specific minis, so simply replace a mini in your opening hand with the mini you want there, and you will have it immediately.
@@OldGuardian thanks OG 👍
@@OldGuardian What do you mean, by “random seed”? I won while using Murk-Eye’s army for the Beast family. However, I’m using the strategies you gave to the other 4 armies, and the seeds that I’m getting are different then the ones you had in your fights.
@@StarlordDX9520 Yes, the opening hands are randomized. But they stay the same until you kill the boss, so you can adjust.
@@OldGuardian So I can’t seem to get my Bat Rider to pop Gish, like I would want, do to a Pyromancer, that spawns from the right spawning zone, followed right after a Ghoul. And I do the same things you drop, Witch Doctor then Bat Rider after, but they both get destroyed immediately. I’m stuck.
*Haha, I just did all the families today, few hours before this video was released.*
First one that doesn't work for me. The first spawn of the enemy is different so it used ita stronger undead group later... very annoying
After the Patch the Boss onehit Earth elemental :( any idea ?
Nope, I tested it and the damage has not changed. There must have been other things hitting it or your level is really low.
@@OldGuardian ok thx :) Level ist >22. very Strange … before Patch it works very well and now After Patch ele dies fast
What I Like to say: your Guides are Great and you make a Great work here - many thanks!! I am Big Fan of you
This wont work for me, AI keeps using Blizzard every time i send harpies or troll to finish Gish😢
And puts a worgen on my safepilot
When I try this method you showed for alliance. Same loadout and higher levels, I get swarmed by the left side. I don’t know what to do
Can you explain how the seeds work?
Your starting hand and the opponent's starting hand are randomized at the start of the game. In campaign missions, this randomization is done once, and then it stays the same until you beat the boss. Therefore, when you are defeated, you and the boss both have the same minis available on your next attempt. You can then adjust your strategy to accommodate what the boss can do. The boss does not always play all the same minis: what you do affects its decisions. But it has the same hand, so the same minis available.
@@OldGuardian so a bad seed can't be changed even after winning with another family? Thanks for the response
Note that the randomizer applies to army slots, not specific minis. If you change the minis in the slots, you can manipulate your starting hand. Old Guardian has made a video about this. ;)
@@Scriptease1 It changes every time you beat the boss with any army.
@@OldGuardian ok that explains why i got the same bad ony start with bandits last even if I changed the deck
Onyxia when?
Rend feels so weak, even with Scale and Steel talent he can't take many hits.
Hey you’re showing level 21 for alliance. There is just no way you’re getting through that easily with them at 21. I’m struggling
That's what I did it with and the fight has not changed.
Doesn't work he 2 shots my rock tank then turns around and 1 shots my harpees with avg 24lvl deck
My starting team comes out differently and that strategy doesn't work for me! :P lol hahhahaha