Great Tips! Aiming a little to the right is very helpful. I've been racking my head why my Umbral Incursion often misses when I dash directly at them. I've mostly been using the Assassin Style flanking strategy to disrupt their backline but yeah, without team support from a tank or healer, it can often lead to a fruitless death. At around 18:58, when you jumped off the ledge after activating Dark Child, you popped a Stepping Disk and it looks like you dashed forward in the middle of an Eldritch Whirl. Does she do that automatically in Dark Child form or did you simultaneously pop Stepping Disc and Eldritch Whirl to close the gap? I couldn't tell because your avatar is blocking her ability cooldown HUD.
I played for 10 hours as just dive magik, thought she was super bad. Then I came across an enemy magik who told me “you frontline until someone is out of position, then portal behind and 1 shot a squishy, rinse and repeat” and that saved my life
I main her and i don't think shes meant to flank. At least not in every situation. Psylocke is who you want if you want to flank. Or iron fist@alternateaccounts5134
@stevensosebee7452 that was me too, just aim right, I was used to aiming straight for the head and then when they move then it misses, but if you aim right it'll be like you hsve aimbot
This is THE magick guide I was looking for. Everyone else only keep talking about her combos and her ult without actually telling us how to play her. Thank you for this.
That's the problem with these "guides". They tell us what their abilities do which we can already go do that in a few minutes by looking at their moveset in game. Knowing how to actually use those abilities and how to play her is something the game doesn't tell us and a video like this is very helpful and a good way to get us started.
This was the ONLY magik video that explained how to play her, every single one shows only combos and shi and not actual situations, this helped sm thank u bro 🙏
I love Magik. Her design and big ass sword caught my eye when I was looking through the heroes. I think her and Psylocke are easily my two favorite characters in the game right now.
I have 20 hours on Magik thus far and I was literally every wrong thing you said in this video. I appreciate the different perspective and I’m definitely going to incorporate this information.
That methodology for Magik is actually how i've been changing up my Iron Fist when they know how to protect their backline properly. Pick your battles, help your tanks fight off the other tanks, protect the backline when they're getting dived, and if they're backline is lacking then dive them. This video was insightful for Magik, thank you
I love to stare down spider man or iron fist that try diving backline. Reminds me of cattle dogs eyeing wolves as they try to get sheep but its a baby land shark and a unsure gunho raccoon.
Really nice guide that really not only explains magic in a basic level but also says a lot about HOW to actually think and move in a game, nice job new follower can keep it up!
As a general rule of thumb once I started using mostly demon and only spamming whirlwind during ult, I've been doing a lot better on magik. Honestly didn't realize how low the basic whirlwind damage is until actually testing it and going "wait... this is balls"
Yeah iirc it does slightly less than a basic slash, it used to do the same in the beta but it was nerfed on release. But because it’s usually used to catch people running away it’s already bad damage gets halfed cuz of falloff. Spin+dash pretty much the only time I use it now
Magik is my main, but boy is she rough to play when your team is bad. I don’t think there’s anyone else who highlights bad team play like she does, because she’s so team dependent.
@@SillySphark exact problem I tend to find with her, tanks expecting me to go in while they stand there, which just murders me. That and stuns. jesus the stuns. but shes a ton of fun to play.
this is the best magik guide ive seen out of probably 30 different ones, earned a subscriber here for sure. Demon is super underrated, especially as a shield when you mess up and have to port out with low health, putting the demons hit box between you and the enemy has for sure saved me a bunch
Demon is very underrated. You can use it in a 1v1, just force them to stand in it when fighting. You can use it to block entryways. It absolutely shreds tanks. Whirl is kinda asss ngl so I find myself using demon more unless I’m trying to confirm a kill or if they are flooding me and I need bonus health.
I feel like they definitely need to give magik full HP/overhealth on ult cast, the point of it is to skip the whole "poke with your tank" phase since you get your cds back, but that also means skipping out on potential overhealth (defeating the purpose of the ult as a "reset"). If you're in a bad spot and get away, then ult to finish off, you are still in a bad situation because your health isn't affected
Instant overhealth on ult would be strong although maybe a bit to much; I really just want her base HP buffed, a melee brawl dps having less than supports and backline hitscan is kinda ridiculous
@@angiegamez8600I think her base health should be 300 and her ult should refill her health but not impact shields, so if you have like 50 health and 100 shields ult takes you to 400 health
@@masonwheeler9211 Keeping with how the devs have made the Magik teamup for BP and Psylocke, it would be overhealth; i'd actually love to see that as Magik's teamup passive for next season
This gave me a more clear idea of her playstyle as an "Opportunistic Brawler". I've got the combos down and the cancels and all that but I was struggling to put them into practice effectively, bouncing between frontline brawler and backline assassin either accomplishing nothing in the front or getting a pick in the back and getting blown up for it 😂 She seems to shine the most in the middle of a fight when things get hectic and everyone has cooldowns running where she can snag people out of position or who aren't able to fight back. Thanks for the insight.
Thank you so much for this guide. Ive been using her as an assassin this whole time and getting completely shredded. I loved her kit, but practically gave up on her since i just couldnt ever get anything going on her. I played 2 games just now playing off of the team, primarily the tanks, and they went MUCH better.
THANK YOU for going over how to actually play her! i am literally the 1st person you described in how people play and i find it so hard to and try and take out supports/healers. i know there are some people out there who are so good at magik they actually can go into a group of 4 and take them out with no problems. after you mentioned how magik can be a good support for tanks dealing damage, i decided to try that out and i was doing a lot better! i think i'll use that to get to know her better before i go into dive bombing
This has been insanely refreshing, especially the bits about "in low elo this is going to be hard". Especially the tank mirroring bit, I genuinely kept thinking I was doing something wrong on that front.(I was, but in a different sense)
@@SillySphark yea that's a consistent issue I tend to have when it comes to these types of games. It really helps to narrow where my problems are, I just gotta adapt more. They might be doing it "wrong" but I ain't playing in higher elo so doesn't matter(as much).
Amazing guide, you covered a lot lot about the character which I really like. Additionally, the demon is really good at destroying stationary entities like Penny’s spiders and Raccoon’s ult.
this is so informational. ive got the combos down but i have no idea how to play these kinds of games. everyone elses videos are like "how to play magik" combos and nothing else. worthless thank you!
Never played a lot of overwatch or hero shooters in general so going over just the way to collab with tanks and healers is super useful, even with me not playing Magik. Really appreciate it.
animation cancel the proj into the uppercut so the damage connect at the same time, stops any pesky heals. the melee cancel with the proj into a melee into a pummel hit also nice
I play Magik because I loved her growing up i had all the comics she was ever in. So when I first loaded up the game when it came out and saw her actually make the base roster I was so happy. I don’t care if I suck with her, I’m going to play her in this game 😂 thank you for the tips and help! I’ve been doing pretty well as Magik, but tips and incite from other people help 😁
Been loving magik. I agree with all the other comments about how good this guide is compared to others I’ve found. Been doing well climbing on magik(plat 2) and getting mvp’s most games. I totally agree with everything you’ve said especially about tanks. When playing with my friend who’s actually good at tank the game just feels so easy it’s crazy, but having a super passive tank just stand there always makes me just want to swap to storm and do nothing -_- but yeah appreciate the guide keep on keeping on
This is a really quite good guide, I have been looking for one for a while and finally found yours and Prez's. Most I've found are just gameplay compilations, and I'm more used to these types of tactical macro and skill micro-heavy educational vids since I'm coming in from Overwatch. Very helpful!
Thank you for the guide. I come from Reinhardt and I find myself trying to hold frontline with her and brawling. Changing the mindset is difficult, but I’m going to give it a try!
I like the mindaet of this guide and really you took the time to explain situations a bit combos are important to know but knowing how and when to use them is better
I love the video!! I do also want to say that a lot of magiks I see don’t take advantage of her bonus shield, and they need to play w/o the expectation of being healed. Her kit allows her to maximize survivability, so taking advantage of health packs + her bonus shield is vital. What makes the whirl really good in aoe is that you can hit multiple targets in combination with your dash to guarantee a kill and gain enough shield to do a second cycle of your cooldowns before having to fall back(or just to survive over extending). You can also just hit most things with a health bar to regenerate more sheild (loki’s clones + using your sword throw on your way out of a fight after a refresh). This way you can still have good survivability when doing an assassin playstyle /w a scared tank or supports that dont have time for you. Don’t worry if you’re not mvp, killing the supports and keeping the enemy team occupied plays a massive role. (idk if this helps with credentials but i just hit plat 1 one tricking with magik)
I know this vid is a little old now so ppl won't see this but I wanted to leave some info. I find that the reason Magik works so well on the frontline is because she excels in chokes and near cover. Placing demon in chokes generates crazy shields to help you engage. If you want to play the assassin playstyle on Magik then you need a plan on where to go after you try for the combo. If magik gets caught out in the open, she is dead and that's it. If you can always be one stepping disc away from cover, then you're golden. I think Magik is about farming shield, finding opportunities for a combo, and then maximizing safe positioning. Panther can be on top of the enemy backline dashing for 2 whole years and be fine but Magik cannot
This one was a massive help since even with one tank I was just waiting in opponents backline my chance to kill there support but that happend very rarely since we were always losing the teambattle.
Great guide! But you forgot one pretty important part. You can cancel the melee with the rightclick. Just like you can cancel the lefclick with the melee. You can weave all kinds of combos if you apply that knowledge especially on the enemie tank. When the enemy tank seems to get a little low or a healer is distracted or in a 1v1 against a tank you can just go full throttle damage with shit like "left click -> melee -> right click -> leftclick -> melee -> E -> leftlick -> melee" Since everything flows into each other so well its 415 damage very quickly (for magik). And its not like this is isolated. You can start at any time while swinging. You can just spike up in damage real quick without necessarily needing to commit. You can change plans at any time. You don't need to comit to the E. You can save it for escape purposes or for the healer who is the reason why the target wont die. My favorite thing about magik is that the kit is simple yet so versatile, situational and well flowing. Once you get a feeling for all the transitions between hits and figure out what works best in what situation she becomes so fun and a total beast.
Something I don’t think people talk about enough is that if you just half charge the projectile then you can still insta kill with the dash you just need to pommel strike after the air swing
Thanks for the video! I've been trying to learn Magik to be my main over Psylock..... she's not quite there yet but I'm getting better haha. Definitely was the second player more. Gotten better since I've been more patient.
I wish more people making these guides on PC would consider the fact that a lot of play on console and saying things like “whenever you use your shift” like dude idk what ability that is. Just say “whenever you use your teleport” or something. Then regardless of platform people still understand what you’re telling them to do. Otherwise absolutely goated magik guide.
This had a lot more to do w me being new to these vids so I had a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I plan on making a revised guide where it has more clarity for the tips I gave
@ I apologize for being insensitive, I honestly don’t know how long you’ve been making videos like this, and it was still a great video, it was just a pain having to translate what you said into console lingo in my mind, I humbly request going forward that you specify abilities keybinds between both platforms and I will immediately sub to you lol 🙏🏼🔥
@ Now adays i read off the ability name and specify the action of the ability since both versions can look at the list so its easier for all of my viewers to see :) But thank you for the comment! :)))
Thanks dad. I'm learning Magik and doing pretty well on my own,but it's been taking forever to find someone who can properly explain how to play her. ❤
Good guide! I really have to get better at team location awareness and comfortability diving, im generally a support main (jeff in rivals, lifeweaver in overwatch) but im trying to pick up a new role and super not used to being in the other teams backline, but the other night when i was trying her out i had a LOT of fun and actually popped off quite a bit even just playing her a bit more defensive
I'm glad it helped you! I recommend watching replays of high level players a little j to see what they are doing BEFORE diving j to help you out a Lil bit!(:
This was a really good guide. I already knew most of the basics here, but the strategy tips were eye-opening. Up until now, I had been playing mostly as the backliner you described, and I was getting extremely frustrated at my lack of survivability. There were several matches where I've had to play a bargain bin off tank, and I realize now that those were some of my best performing matches because I was forced to stick with the team instead of trying to gank from the rear. If I can suggest, could you potentially do a follow up video talking about counter play and counter picks? Maybe with some footage of you dealing with some of the more annoying targets? It's the area I seem to struggle with the most. I already know some of my hard counters, but it would be nice to know how exactly I can deal with a Hawkeye who absolutely deletes me as soon as I poke my head out of a doorway, for example.
@Metrikon9000 I thank ya for the kind words! Magik is still my main ik I'm posting other teaching vids but I'll have some more stuff on her up prob tonight (:
Nice vid! I definitely agree with putting the demon behind the enemies. Also thanks for pointing out that she needs a proper tank. Ive been confused why my plays have been inconsistent outside of my bad games. Somehow my dumbass never thought about a scared tank killing her potential 😔
Put your demon beside the doorway but not in front because it makes you able to get hit + it will get shot (keep in mind it doesnt hit behind walls even if slash animations show it so dont put it behind the "lip" of the door either)
The demon can totally be worked into combos. Instead of the spin-dash (portal, left click then E), you can portal, dash, then deploy the demon when you knock them into the air, then continue the combo as normal. Does way more damage than the spin-dash, good for tanks.
@@SillySphark This will help me alot b/c while Im starting to think im good with peni, Luna, and Namor (fav of each type to play so far) I like melee chars, and magick def has a higher skill floor that most. I mean Penis is 4/5 diff but I found her easy to learn. just shows how we all jive with diffrent chars and playstyles. In my hearts of hearts. I will always be a Tank.
@@SillySphark Sounds up my ally since i'm an old school gamer. started in 90's with Snes) Character action games are some of my fav (I.e. DMC, Metal Gear Rising,Bayonette, Viewtiful Voe, Nier: automata, ect.) But also something i'll struggle a bit with b/c age weares down your skills. also not a competitve multiplayer guy, and those kind o
@@EinherjarV Hey thats awesome man! Keep at it youll get there no matter what after putting in the time i have faith in you its super cool that youre a lover of the classics!
FINALLY a video detailing different playstyles and how to adapt. I already know the combos but this helped me understand the best way to execute them. Thank you!
Even if you don't, you can still use Umbral Incursion to avoid getting thrown off the map. I love when a d-bag Jeff wastes their Ult trying to get an environmental kill.
One very important thing is that her LMB swings HAVE damage fall off and pretty big one, you go from dealing 65dmg at 4,5m and less, down to ~30dmg at anything beyond 6m, so if you cant hit them will your quick melee, you might aswell not hit them at all,(thats not true lol) but if you CAN you should try to wait that ~0.5 seconds more to close the gap before attacking, especially if you are flanking as to not give away your position too soon, that ~30dmg difference May be the reason why their healer had the time to turn around and heal your target. Amazing guide nonetheless
@empicamper all of this is stuff that I found later as I played but thank you for posting it here for the people to see (: AND ALSO THANK YOU SO MUCH!!((:
Still trying here, one thing I'm noticing is that she's great with the right team comp and circumstances but most times I'm playing i just can't land the hits I need to, maybe I need to turn up my sensitivity (I do have pretty bad aim most times)
Magik has been my OTP to D2 other than the occasional flex to support, and oh god the amount of times I just wanna scream cause our tanks won’t walk up and I’m forced to flank then I get flamed… ahhhhh why do I play this hero XD
@@agnuswulf Keeping good mental and focus on improvement over winning, it's easy to tilt on such a do or die hero since a single mistake is all it takes. People will also flame you regardless of how well you're playing especially in lower elos if your team is losing, just mute and focus on your own gameplay cause nothing you say will change their mind. Lastly if you're not having fun just don't play, pick another hero or different game entirely; I've stopped playing for now despite peaking higher than my s0 % cause of current meta
Combo with quick and highest possible damage: Shift + left click with E. You'll swing your sword even further, much further, and if you get the timing right and aim, you'll lift your opponent because of the E. That's a just to gain range. Using E without Shift + left click will only cause slightly less damage. After lifting the opponent: Left click + V + right click + left click + V + Left click (If you are taking a lot of damage and in danger of being killed, do not give the last blow with the left click, finish the combo with second V). Escape with shift + right click (if you can, use it in the direction of your opponents to prevent anyone from trying to chase you). By getting everything right you can quickly take around 60% or so of life from any tank with 800 health.
the combo at 4:10 doesn't kill squishies. using TP>spin attack>Dash>M1>Melee leaves luna with less than 10 hp in practice (the bots seem to have slightly less health). you'd either need to add in sword beam after the melee, or just use it in place of the melee.
@SillySphark I mean, Luna's hp is 250, but she has like, a pixel of health left if I end the combo with melee. I think practice ignores the seasonal damage buff, so it doesn't kill 250s in practice but does in a match, at least for now
@@SillySphark Yeah, I misremembered which combo left her with the magic pixel. I was playing around and tried using m1>melee>sword beam>m1>melee and _that_ left her with a magic pixel of health
I actually really like doing the whirl into dash combo but having the dash connect instead of going past in dark child (especially as a first engage). It’s like an instant delete button where even great supports won’t have the time to react.
theres another combo you can do, harder but more damage can even burst down tanks, shift LMB > insta E > LMB cancel with melee > animation cancel with RMB > LMB cancel with melee other than that just perma shift RMB enemy frontline for sustain
18:24 Lmao so me when I first started handling her ult "its over the dark child is out the closer is here!" 🤣 just to die everytime before I ko'd anyone with the ult
usually when I utilize Darkchild is not to wipe the enemy team, well not all the time. But in scenarios where you're heavily pressured, and so far your team has built up their ultimates, but can't get the tension to engage in a teamfight, both you and the tank can just put pressure on their frontlines until there's an opening from their tanks, then both you and your tank can engage the teamfight. or if there's case where your team needs an opening to fight off the pressure of the enemy team, you can let your tank take care of distraction and meanwhile you set yourself up to engage the supports to break their formation as long as you can sustain yourself. or if you did a backline method and killed either support or their dps while the tank's putting up the pressure infront, you can engage with your ult tense up the pressure causing them to break and let your team break through. I'm still fairly new of playing the game and all I've been using is magik, but throughout learned how to play here through mistakes, specially diving in and ulting causing you to die, losing the ult charge. when using the ult think of it as a high risk engagement, so plan wisely when using your ult.
If I ever made a revised guide I would prob include much of this. The game was still a bit new when I made the original and I figured touching on just the aspects of not throwing w dark child was important but didn't know at that point that it's not a hela ult in terms of safety but is more versatile for breaking through utility. V well spoken (:
Im back for reals this time! Thanks for waiting :)
Welcome back I’m a new magik player and I didn’t know a lot of these things I was just rushing straight in
@Kyamii-l7z we all did at some point my friend
alright buddy thats enough out of you
She's weak, Boi 😂 ain't no body scared
Great Tips!
Aiming a little to the right is very helpful. I've been racking my head why my Umbral Incursion often misses when I dash directly at them.
I've mostly been using the Assassin Style flanking strategy to disrupt their backline but yeah, without team support from a tank or healer, it can often lead to a fruitless death.
At around 18:58, when you jumped off the ledge after activating Dark Child, you popped a Stepping Disk and it looks like you dashed forward in the middle of an Eldritch Whirl. Does she do that automatically in Dark Child form or did you simultaneously pop Stepping Disc and Eldritch Whirl to close the gap? I couldn't tell because your avatar is blocking her ability cooldown HUD.
I played for 10 hours as just dive magik, thought she was super bad. Then I came across an enemy magik who told me “you frontline until someone is out of position, then portal behind and 1 shot a squishy, rinse and repeat” and that saved my life
I'm guessing flanking and diving doesn't work as well in higher ranks? That's what I've been doing and it worked out but I'm gold
I just been trying magic and I've been doing terrible. I literally miss most dashes and can't go one for one for death and kills. It's horrible
@@stevensosebee7452yh idk how they even be hitting the dash in a chaotic fight
I main her and i don't think shes meant to flank. At least not in every situation. Psylocke is who you want if you want to flank. Or iron fist@alternateaccounts5134
@stevensosebee7452 that was me too, just aim right, I was used to aiming straight for the head and then when they move then it misses, but if you aim right it'll be like you hsve aimbot
This is THE magick guide I was looking for. Everyone else only keep talking about her combos and her ult without actually telling us how to play her. Thank you for this.
Super glad I could help! I have had a ton of fun learning and playing Magik! I hope you enjoy her the same was that I do :)
Exactlyyy
Exactly! I just played her like Chip Zanuff Go in, go gorilla, hope you never lose a 50/50
That's the problem with these "guides". They tell us what their abilities do which we can already go do that in a few minutes by looking at their moveset in game. Knowing how to actually use those abilities and how to play her is something the game doesn't tell us and a video like this is very helpful and a good way to get us started.
Factssss
"If your tank is useless just switch" real as fuck lol
At least tanks are fun in rivals
This was the ONLY magik video that explained how to play her, every single one shows only combos and shi and not actual situations, this helped sm thank u bro 🙏
Super glad I could help my friend :) Good luck in your climb !!!
I love Magik. Her design and big ass sword caught my eye when I was looking through the heroes. I think her and Psylocke are easily my two favorite characters in the game right now.
THATS CRAZY those are my favorite too(:
Omg, literally same.
Rephrase that
I love Magik. Her design, and big Ass, Sword caught your eye
Yeah same
Mine too, we like badass Girls😂😂😂
I have 20 hours on Magik thus far and I was literally every wrong thing you said in this video. I appreciate the different perspective and I’m definitely going to incorporate this information.
@aracystic28 she's got a lot of weird stuff that's not super obvious I'm glad to help ((:
That methodology for Magik is actually how i've been changing up my Iron Fist when they know how to protect their backline properly. Pick your battles, help your tanks fight off the other tanks, protect the backline when they're getting dived, and if they're backline is lacking then dive them. This video was insightful for Magik, thank you
YOURE THE MAN KEEP IT UP BROTHER!!!
I love to stare down spider man or iron fist that try diving backline. Reminds me of cattle dogs eyeing wolves as they try to get sheep but its a baby land shark and a unsure gunho raccoon.
Also you can use whirlwind to e combo Ironman out of the child
Really nice guide that really not only explains magic in a basic level but also says a lot about HOW to actually think and move in a game, nice job new follower can keep it up!
YOURE THE GOAT OMGOMG THANK YOU!
As a general rule of thumb once I started using mostly demon and only spamming whirlwind during ult, I've been doing a lot better on magik. Honestly didn't realize how low the basic whirlwind damage is until actually testing it and going "wait... this is balls"
No its lowk pitiful demon is the goat tho
Yeah iirc it does slightly less than a basic slash, it used to do the same in the beta but it was nerfed on release. But because it’s usually used to catch people running away it’s already bad damage gets halfed cuz of falloff. Spin+dash pretty much the only time I use it now
It's still good for a finishing people off and closing the gap with E + whirlwind for some extra shields to start
Magik is my main, but boy is she rough to play when your team is bad. I don’t think there’s anyone else who highlights bad team play like she does, because she’s so team dependent.
Mostly tank wise its rlly hard if they play timid. I dont reco anyone one tricking her but as ive climbed to plat moving forward its felt much better
@@SillySpharkI’m one tricking her and currently in Gold 1 but yeah throwers and bad teammates totally throw Magik off her game
@@SillySphark exact problem I tend to find with her, tanks expecting me to go in while they stand there, which just murders me. That and stuns. jesus the stuns. but shes a ton of fun to play.
@MrRurounismc yeaaa ppl think magik can j dive backline for free
@@thedawginhumanity4635I recommend just not one tricking her. I main Magik too but if the game is rough and psylock isn't banned I'll make the swap
this is the best magik guide ive seen out of probably 30 different ones, earned a subscriber here for sure. Demon is super underrated, especially as a shield when you mess up and have to port out with low health, putting the demons hit box between you and the enemy has for sure saved me a bunch
@@Narwarlock love to see you stop in I hope ur climb is crazy good!!
Demon is very underrated. You can use it in a 1v1, just force them to stand in it when fighting. You can use it to block entryways. It absolutely shreds tanks. Whirl is kinda asss ngl so I find myself using demon more unless I’m trying to confirm a kill or if they are flooding me and I need bonus health.
I feel like they definitely need to give magik full HP/overhealth on ult cast, the point of it is to skip the whole "poke with your tank" phase since you get your cds back, but that also means skipping out on potential overhealth (defeating the purpose of the ult as a "reset"). If you're in a bad spot and get away, then ult to finish off, you are still in a bad situation because your health isn't affected
It's a bit rough esp since Hela has no issue w j using it and not having an animation when leaving her ult
Instant overhealth on ult would be strong although maybe a bit to much; I really just want her base HP buffed, a melee brawl dps having less than supports and backline hitscan is kinda ridiculous
@@angiegamez8600I think her base health should be 300 and her ult should refill her health but not impact shields, so if you have like 50 health and 100 shields ult takes you to 400 health
@@masonwheeler9211 Keeping with how the devs have made the Magik teamup for BP and Psylocke, it would be overhealth; i'd actually love to see that as Magik's teamup passive for next season
This gave me a more clear idea of her playstyle as an "Opportunistic Brawler". I've got the combos down and the cancels and all that but I was struggling to put them into practice effectively, bouncing between frontline brawler and backline assassin either accomplishing nothing in the front or getting a pick in the back and getting blown up for it 😂 She seems to shine the most in the middle of a fight when things get hectic and everyone has cooldowns running where she can snag people out of position or who aren't able to fight back. Thanks for the insight.
Thank you so much for this guide. Ive been using her as an assassin this whole time and getting completely shredded. I loved her kit, but practically gave up on her since i just couldnt ever get anything going on her. I played 2 games just now playing off of the team, primarily the tanks, and they went MUCH better.
"probably have one guy on hela and one on spiderman" nah it's always a hawkeye that misses all his shots, not a hela
10:00 I thought bro was gonna have some crazy revelation for me bro hit me with the "just switch" 😭😭
No I'm so sorry ):
@@SillySphark used your tips and went 26-2 in ranked thanks bro
As a magik main myself this guide is perfect, you even brought up how she can be kinda tank ish if used correctly
Im glad it came out so good i tried to cover as much as I could w out it being super long!
THANK YOU for going over how to actually play her! i am literally the 1st person you described in how people play and i find it so hard to and try and take out supports/healers. i know there are some people out there who are so good at magik they actually can go into a group of 4 and take them out with no problems. after you mentioned how magik can be a good support for tanks dealing damage, i decided to try that out and i was doing a lot better! i think i'll use that to get to know her better before i go into dive bombing
I'm glad to have helped my friend ((:
This has been insanely refreshing, especially the bits about "in low elo this is going to be hard".
Especially the tank mirroring bit, I genuinely kept thinking I was doing something wrong on that front.(I was, but in a different sense)
I think it's a bigg thing to understand that low and high elo are two v different games and both have v different goals for winning
@@SillySphark yea that's a consistent issue I tend to have when it comes to these types of games.
It really helps to narrow where my problems are, I just gotta adapt more.
They might be doing it "wrong" but I ain't playing in higher elo so doesn't matter(as much).
Good guide on Magik. Every guide I've seen on Magik never talked about how to play her in different situations. This video is great.
Thank you so much ! I hope ur climb goes well my dood!
This helped sooooo much. Took these tips into a few games, MVP every round with around 20 eliminations. Thank you!
Thank you. What you’ve taught me actually came in handy and has made me enjoy this character much more.
0:47 bro you cant just talk to her like that...
@@yeahey5947 She was bugging me
Amazing guide, you covered a lot lot about the character which I really like. Additionally, the demon is really good at destroying stationary entities like Penny’s spiders and Raccoon’s ult.
Ong it's been my favorite way to kill punisher on turret (: I'm glad you enjoyed I hope ur climb is going good!
@ Hoping to reach grandmaster tomorrow or the day after, thank you for your support!
this is so informational. ive got the combos down but i have no idea how to play these kinds of games. everyone elses videos are like "how to play magik" combos and nothing else. worthless
thank you!
Never played a lot of overwatch or hero shooters in general so going over just the way to collab with tanks and healers is super useful, even with me not playing Magik. Really appreciate it.
@beanienclogs That's great I'm super glad I could help you friend (: good luck in your climb of course!!
This changed the entire character for me mentally, and made me realize how I'd end up losing too a good magik. Thanks so much!
animation cancel the proj into the uppercut so the damage connect at the same time, stops any pesky heals. the melee cancel with the proj into a melee into a pummel hit also nice
I play Magik because I loved her growing up i had all the comics she was ever in. So when I first loaded up the game when it came out and saw her actually make the base roster I was so happy. I don’t care if I suck with her, I’m going to play her in this game 😂 thank you for the tips and help! I’ve been doing pretty well as Magik, but tips and incite from other people help 😁
She's def the coolest champ for me asw I hope you climb ((:
A lot of this was intuition for me but applying it to Darkchild is what really finally clicked thanks for the vid !
Been loving magik. I agree with all the other comments about how good this guide is compared to others I’ve found. Been doing well climbing on magik(plat 2) and getting mvp’s most games. I totally agree with everything you’ve said especially about tanks. When playing with my friend who’s actually good at tank the game just feels so easy it’s crazy, but having a super passive tank just stand there always makes me just want to swap to storm and do nothing -_- but yeah appreciate the guide keep on keeping on
Thanks friend ((:
Been hard stuck on magik since release and this still was so informative!
Glad to help :)
This is a really quite good guide, I have been looking for one for a while and finally found yours and Prez's. Most I've found are just gameplay compilations, and I'm more used to these types of tactical macro and skill micro-heavy educational vids since I'm coming in from Overwatch. Very helpful!
I'm glad you like it! I have more stuff like this coming really soon! I hope your climb is going well(:
Thank you for the guide. I come from Reinhardt and I find myself trying to hold frontline with her and brawling. Changing the mindset is difficult, but I’m going to give it a try!
I come from genji and the mindsets are very similar!
@@tovilsensei6483yeah I don’t play genji
This was an awesome guide. Love the "How to apply this knowledge" type explanations.
I like the mindaet of this guide and really you took the time to explain situations a bit combos are important to know but knowing how and when to use them is better
I love the video!! I do also want to say that a lot of magiks I see don’t take advantage of her bonus shield, and they need to play w/o the expectation of being healed. Her kit allows her to maximize survivability, so taking advantage of health packs + her bonus shield is vital. What makes the whirl really good in aoe is that you can hit multiple targets in combination with your dash to guarantee a kill and gain enough shield to do a second cycle of your cooldowns before having to fall back(or just to survive over extending). You can also just hit most things with a health bar to regenerate more sheild (loki’s clones + using your sword throw on your way out of a fight after a refresh). This way you can still have good survivability when doing an assassin playstyle /w a scared tank or supports that dont have time for you. Don’t worry if you’re not mvp, killing the supports and keeping the enemy team occupied plays a massive role. (idk if this helps with credentials but i just hit plat 1 one tricking with magik)
@kuulkid9547 my goat
I know this vid is a little old now so ppl won't see this but I wanted to leave some info. I find that the reason Magik works so well on the frontline is because she excels in chokes and near cover. Placing demon in chokes generates crazy shields to help you engage. If you want to play the assassin playstyle on Magik then you need a plan on where to go after you try for the combo. If magik gets caught out in the open, she is dead and that's it. If you can always be one stepping disc away from cover, then you're golden. I think Magik is about farming shield, finding opportunities for a combo, and then maximizing safe positioning. Panther can be on top of the enemy backline dashing for 2 whole years and be fine but Magik cannot
Nice vid, thanks! Didn't expect some of the Darkchild ideas and it was very helpful to think of the two different attack mindsets.
Ofc dude thanks for the kind comment ((:
Hearing about her ult combos and damage thresholds would have been cool. A lot of people are not aware of how to get the most out of it.
I'll do an updated video as I climb higher in the ranks. This was more for the ppl that j needed a Lil but of that first push(:
"Because the spiderman is probably doing nothing anyway" killed me 😂
Wooow. Best guide ever. Hope you create more guides for other characters too 😊
Magik's strength comes in feeding me eliminations no matter who I play 😅
This one was a massive help since even with one tank I was just waiting in opponents backline my chance to kill there support but that happend very rarely since we were always losing the teambattle.
Great guide! But you forgot one pretty important part. You can cancel the melee with the rightclick. Just like you can cancel the lefclick with the melee.
You can weave all kinds of combos if you apply that knowledge especially on the enemie tank. When the enemy tank seems to get a little low or a healer is distracted or in a 1v1 against a tank you can just go full throttle damage with shit like "left click -> melee -> right click -> leftclick -> melee -> E -> leftlick -> melee"
Since everything flows into each other so well its 415 damage very quickly (for magik). And its not like this is isolated. You can start at any time while swinging. You can just spike up in damage real quick without necessarily needing to commit. You can change plans at any time. You don't need to comit to the E. You can save it for escape purposes or for the healer who is the reason why the target wont die.
My favorite thing about magik is that the kit is simple yet so versatile, situational and well flowing. Once you get a feeling for all the transitions between hits and figure out what works best in what situation she becomes so fun and a total beast.
Something I don’t think people talk about enough is that if you just half charge the projectile then you can still insta kill with the dash you just need to pommel strike after the air swing
Thanks for the video! I've been trying to learn Magik to be my main over Psylock..... she's not quite there yet but I'm getting better haha. Definitely was the second player more. Gotten better since I've been more patient.
Best "How to" video I've seen on Rivals so far, good job! New sub 👍
My goat ((:
Thanks for the more in depth guide especially when it comes to decision making. Gonna practice!
Ofc good luck my friend !(:
Demon is great and can be directed upwards and downwards depending on your angle when deployed
I wish more people making these guides on PC would consider the fact that a lot of play on console and saying things like “whenever you use your shift” like dude idk what ability that is. Just say “whenever you use your teleport” or something. Then regardless of platform people still understand what you’re telling them to do. Otherwise absolutely goated magik guide.
This had a lot more to do w me being new to these vids so I had a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I plan on making a revised guide where it has more clarity for the tips I gave
@ I apologize for being insensitive, I honestly don’t know how long you’ve been making videos like this, and it was still a great video, it was just a pain having to translate what you said into console lingo in my mind, I humbly request going forward that you specify abilities keybinds between both platforms and I will immediately sub to you lol 🙏🏼🔥
@ Now adays i read off the ability name and specify the action of the ability since both versions can look at the list so its easier for all of my viewers to see :) But thank you for the comment! :)))
Thanks dad.
I'm learning Magik and doing pretty well on my own,but it's been taking forever to find someone who can properly explain how to play her. ❤
Glad to help friend!
Good guide! I really have to get better at team location awareness and comfortability diving, im generally a support main (jeff in rivals, lifeweaver in overwatch) but im trying to pick up a new role and super not used to being in the other teams backline, but the other night when i was trying her out i had a LOT of fun and actually popped off quite a bit even just playing her a bit more defensive
I'm glad it helped you! I recommend watching replays of high level players a little j to see what they are doing BEFORE diving j to help you out a Lil bit!(:
@SillySphark that's good advice, I've been doing that and also spent a while practicing combos in training area to get the flow down of the timing
THIS HELPED SO MUCH BRO YOU'RE A REAL ONE 🙏🙏
this was the most informational magik video ive seen so far o7
as a ironfist and magik main, this video helps for both
Great guide! Loved the play style tips
You are the Magik master and we are your disciples 🧎♂️
My yound padawan
W guide bro. the accuracy of my uppercut increased drastically.
Fire guide btw really needed a guide like this, and for that u earned yourself a like and sub
THANKS!
Love it, Magiks been my favourite hero to play so this video was really benificial❤
Shes lovely super excited for her skin this week!
This is really good guide. Just picked up game and it helps me alot, especially tips on how to play her as offtank-bruiser
I'm glad to help my friend ((:
This was a really good guide. I already knew most of the basics here, but the strategy tips were eye-opening. Up until now, I had been playing mostly as the backliner you described, and I was getting extremely frustrated at my lack of survivability. There were several matches where I've had to play a bargain bin off tank, and I realize now that those were some of my best performing matches because I was forced to stick with the team instead of trying to gank from the rear. If I can suggest, could you potentially do a follow up video talking about counter play and counter picks? Maybe with some footage of you dealing with some of the more annoying targets? It's the area I seem to struggle with the most. I already know some of my hard counters, but it would be nice to know how exactly I can deal with a Hawkeye who absolutely deletes me as soon as I poke my head out of a doorway, for example.
@Metrikon9000 I thank ya for the kind words! Magik is still my main ik I'm posting other teaching vids but I'll have some more stuff on her up prob tonight (:
Oh my god YES, DEMON PRAISE
I swear people don't talk about how strong it is enough, it's free pressure and it deals a ton of sustained damage
Nice vid! I definitely agree with putting the demon behind the enemies. Also thanks for pointing out that she needs a proper tank. Ive been confused why my plays have been inconsistent outside of my bad games. Somehow my dumbass never thought about a scared tank killing her potential 😔
Of course man no problem at all! I'm glad to help and I hope ur climb goes well!!(:
I came back to watch it again. Great guide ❤
Awesome guide, true tips everyone need to improve. Time to practice! :D
I expected you to mention that single precise usage of demon on Penny Nest comlpetely destroys it
@fulkrum_5 yeaa I forgot to mention how good it was on groot, penny and punisher util):
This is how I use it as well, it’s a great counter but can be hairy getting out of the mine field
I love you for this guide beautiful guide holy
Put your demon beside the doorway but not in front because it makes you able to get hit + it will get shot (keep in mind it doesnt hit behind walls even if slash animations show it so dont put it behind the "lip" of the door either)
but great vid btw ;p
Gotcha gotcha thank you! :)
@@SillySphark keep making content I think your way of explaining is good in your demonstration and commentary.
@ameliarichardson9689 thank you thank you (((:
The demon can totally be worked into combos. Instead of the spin-dash (portal, left click then E), you can portal, dash, then deploy the demon when you knock them into the air, then continue the combo as normal. Does way more damage than the spin-dash, good for tanks.
Sith happens bro. Mental and physical wellbeing come first.
My goattt
@@SillySphark This will help me alot b/c while Im starting to think im good with peni, Luna, and Namor (fav of each type to play so far) I like melee chars, and magick def has a higher skill floor that most.
I mean Penis is 4/5 diff but I found her easy to learn. just shows how we all jive with diffrent chars and playstyles.
In my hearts of hearts. I will always be a Tank.
@@EinherjarV Magik has been my fav flex pick for sure. if you enjoy meles she is THE mele rn for skill expression
@@SillySphark Sounds up my ally since i'm an old school gamer. started in 90's with Snes) Character action games are some of my fav (I.e. DMC, Metal Gear Rising,Bayonette, Viewtiful Voe, Nier: automata, ect.) But also something i'll struggle a bit with b/c age weares down your skills. also not a competitve multiplayer guy, and those kind o
@@EinherjarV Hey thats awesome man! Keep at it youll get there no matter what after putting in the time i have faith in you its super cool that youre a lover of the classics!
I needed this I think she's so interesting but don't know what I'm doing
Youll get there my friend :) Keep it up!
FINALLY a video detailing different playstyles and how to adapt. I already know the combos but this helped me understand the best way to execute them. Thank you!
Easiest sub of my life.
You can dodge Jeff ult with a portal :)
Even if you don't, you can still use Umbral Incursion to avoid getting thrown off the map. I love when a d-bag Jeff wastes their Ult trying to get an environmental kill.
@charlestonjew7587 oh me too, it's so funny to me. Well, it works unless the Jeff is suicidle
Thank you so much, I was wondering why my Magik gameplay felt so off!!
Glad I could help!
One very important thing is that her LMB swings HAVE damage fall off and pretty big one, you go from dealing 65dmg at 4,5m and less, down to ~30dmg at anything beyond 6m, so if you cant hit them will your quick melee, you might aswell not hit them at all,(thats not true lol) but if you CAN you should try to wait that ~0.5 seconds more to close the gap before attacking, especially if you are flanking as to not give away your position too soon, that ~30dmg difference May be the reason why their healer had the time to turn around and heal your target. Amazing guide nonetheless
@empicamper all of this is stuff that I found later as I played but thank you for posting it here for the people to see (: AND ALSO THANK YOU SO MUCH!!((:
ahh, it’s like learning to play ow all over again lmao
Feels good ik
in my last 30 matches with Magik ive gotten MVP 16 times, in the other 14 matches ive been blamed by everyone for losing
Thanksnfor the help mate, as a Star Lord main I'm having such a hard time with her
Still trying here, one thing I'm noticing is that she's great with the right team comp and circumstances but most times I'm playing i just can't land the hits I need to, maybe I need to turn up my sensitivity (I do have pretty bad aim most times)
I want to see all the Vanguards broken down this way. I seems like they each have very different goals. I haven’t played a game like Rivals until now.
👀 I'll take a look!
Magik has been my OTP to D2 other than the occasional flex to support, and oh god the amount of times I just wanna scream cause our tanks won’t walk up and I’m forced to flank then I get flamed… ahhhhh why do I play this hero XD
I'm with you my friend, same for me !
Update I got GM3 wooo! :D
@@angiegamez8600 Congrats! Seems you're doing super well. Any tips to share with us, mere mortals?
@@agnuswulf Keeping good mental and focus on improvement over winning, it's easy to tilt on such a do or die hero since a single mistake is all it takes. People will also flame you regardless of how well you're playing especially in lower elos if your team is losing, just mute and focus on your own gameplay cause nothing you say will change their mind. Lastly if you're not having fun just don't play, pick another hero or different game entirely; I've stopped playing for now despite peaking higher than my s0 % cause of current meta
I just started playing Mario and this helped me a lot
Which game
@ I meant magik it auto corrected
Combo with quick and highest possible damage:
Shift + left click with E. You'll swing your sword even further, much further, and if you get the timing right and aim, you'll lift your opponent because of the E. That's a just to gain range. Using E without Shift + left click will only cause slightly less damage.
After lifting the opponent: Left click + V + right click + left click + V + Left click (If you are taking a lot of damage and in danger of being killed, do not give the last blow with the left click, finish the combo with second V).
Escape with shift + right click (if you can, use it in the direction of your opponents to prevent anyone from trying to chase you).
By getting everything right you can quickly take around 60% or so of life from any tank with 800 health.
"scared to go in as tank" meanwhile me first time venom face diving into 5 people 🤣 Great tutorial magik is awesome 🤣😎
@@Bartek-yt5wh thank you!(:
Now this is a guide ! Worth the 23 mins 🔥😮💨
@@pincheyosh glad I could help ya
the combo at 4:10 doesn't kill squishies. using TP>spin attack>Dash>M1>Melee leaves luna with less than 10 hp in practice (the bots seem to have slightly less health). you'd either need to add in sword beam after the melee, or just use it in place of the melee.
@ecanoya it kills 250 hp characters but not 275 I j forgot to add that in mbmb!
@SillySphark I mean, Luna's hp is 250, but she has like, a pixel of health left if I end the combo with melee. I think practice ignores the seasonal damage buff, so it doesn't kill 250s in practice but does in a match, at least for now
@@ecanoya Luna snows hp is 275 1 shot combo works on 250 targets
@@SillySphark Yeah, I misremembered which combo left her with the magic pixel. I was playing around and tried using m1>melee>sword beam>m1>melee and _that_ left her with a magic pixel of health
I actually really like doing the whirl into dash combo but having the dash connect instead of going past in dark child (especially as a first engage). It’s like an instant delete button where even great supports won’t have the time to react.
theres another combo you can do, harder but more damage can even burst down tanks,
shift LMB > insta E > LMB cancel with melee > animation cancel with RMB > LMB cancel with melee
other than that just perma shift RMB enemy frontline for sustain
Oh man, it never clicked in my brain the importance of that bonus health, I was just using her autos for heal, game changer.
I hope you climb man get that moon knight skin!
18:24 Lmao so me when I first started handling her ult "its over the dark child is out the closer is here!" 🤣 just to die everytime before I ko'd anyone with the ult
We all have been there
Also Practice this in the room where you can make people move around and jump, down behind luna and a ways to the right i believe.
Ong I didnt know that was there thank you lmao
usually when I utilize Darkchild is not to wipe the enemy team, well not all the time. But in scenarios where you're heavily pressured, and so far your team has built up their ultimates, but can't get the tension to engage in a teamfight, both you and the tank can just put pressure on their frontlines until there's an opening from their tanks, then both you and your tank can engage the teamfight.
or if there's case where your team needs an opening to fight off the pressure of the enemy team, you can let your tank take care of distraction and meanwhile you set yourself up to engage the supports to break their formation as long as you can sustain yourself. or if you did a backline method and killed either support or their dps while the tank's putting up the pressure infront, you can engage with your ult tense up the pressure causing them to break and let your team break through.
I'm still fairly new of playing the game and all I've been using is magik, but throughout learned how to play here through mistakes, specially diving in and ulting causing you to die, losing the ult charge.
when using the ult think of it as a high risk engagement, so plan wisely when using your ult.
If I ever made a revised guide I would prob include much of this. The game was still a bit new when I made the original and I figured touching on just the aspects of not throwing w dark child was important but didn't know at that point that it's not a hela ult in terms of safety but is more versatile for breaking through utility. V well spoken (:
Thank you for the compliment
this is genuinely the one
Great guide, man!
I absolutely adore Magik but I’m dog water with her. This helped so much thank you.
Great video, huge help! Quality content 🤙
Thank you Mr wizard
excellent guide cheers dude