The gearbox was a product of a Leyland Motors subsidiary called Self Changing Gears of Coventry and first appeared fitted to the Mk 1 Leyland Atlantean in the very early 60s. It soon became a common fitment to vehicles of all types throughout the bus industry.
Not quite correct. This gearbox was built by Bristol Commercial Vehicles themselves, under licence from Self Changing Gears. SCG was founded by Walter Gordon Wilson, co-designer of the first tanks in the Great War. He conceived the epicyclic gearbox for tank use, though it never saw use in a tank until long after the war. His preselector gearbox only saw success in buses when Daimler obtained the rights to manufacture it, and mated it to the Vulkan-Sinclair coupling, which they christened the "fluid flywheel", later licensing AEC to use the combination. Leyland were twenty-five years behind in adopting the SCG gearbox when they developed their own direct-selection version in partnership with SCG, but they did not buy SCG until 1956, after which AEC, Bristol and Daimler all continued to build their own versions of SCG gearboxes under licence.
They're also quite mechanically basic, the engines are quite simple. They're large capacity engines with bags of low down grunt, which means they can last forever. Modern buses have gone the same way as cars, using smaller capacity engines with high outputs, and they really don't last as well. For example, a Wright's Streetlite powered by a euro 6 Mercedes engine will be lucky to do 250,000 miles before they throw a con rod. 250k sounds a lot but in bus terms it really isn't.
The door opener integrated with the gearshift is a great idea. Here in Sydney around 30 years ago a woman was dragged to her death after her leg became stuck in the door of a departing bus. The solution was to cut the corners off all the doors and cover the opening with rubber flaps.
Nice to see David and his bus, a gentleman i met a few years ago at Blackburn bus garage were he was a driver for Blackburn and Darwen council, lovely RE and well done David for keeping it that way, cheers Andy the bus electrician
Got engrossed in David's chat there. We had a bus at our scout group (in Stockport) but it was more like a coach than this Bristol, the engine blew up on a motorway coming back from North Wales so probably went to the scrap heap in the sky long before this was salvaged !!
Ulsterbus had a large fleet of REs, in their striking blue/creamy white livery. I used to travel on one regularly as a school bus. The scream from them as they charged downhill on the overrun was both exciting and terrifying in equal measure!
I, too, used to travel to school on an Ulsterbus, in the late 1970s. Sometimes the bus wasn't there, because they were usually set on fire. You'd always see them burning on the side of a road. I can still smell that burning rubber.
I remember Bristol REs being a staple of Eastern Counties buses when I was a child. Good to see one again. Also remember six (and eight) cylinder Gardner engines were used in BR shunters - the Gardner 6L was used in the Class 01s at the Holyhead Breakwater.
I was born in Belfast in the late 80s and Bristol REs were still a common sight when I was a kid... (CityBus flogged them until they were done!) Beautiful buses!
I believe that Ulster continued to get REs for some time after the rest of the UK. My understanding was that the RE was made export only in order to promote sales of the Leyland National, but Northern Ireland was exempt from this due to a requirement that buses have locally built bodies. The REs operated in Ulster had bodies made in Belfast by Alexander, but the National, being unit construction did not allow for this option.
Used to drive this bus and the other 5 Bristol 50 years ago. Apart from the low bridge routes they did a Stalybridge to Glossop route in conjunction with the North western road car company
As a kid, in the 80's, I was mesmerized by the craft of bus driving. Every time I tried to stand or even better, sit, in a position from where I could have a front row seat view on a driver driving. Double clutching, button pushing, rev matching, windscreen wipers operating... All of that. It was the ASMR before there was any such thing 😅
"Ting, Ting, Fares Please" ! What a lovely video and THE 1967 BRISOL RE. I'm sure you enjoyed that Ian as we did. And by the way, You Ian are an excellent driver, well done 👍 🏁. More Like This would be great ! *
Bristol Buses we all love you in your British Racing Green When we're waiting at the Bus Stop seldom heard and never seen ! Happy memories of catching these all over Bristol in my youth Thanks Ian.
Being a northern Seventies lad, the Leyland National and Atlantean will always be my favourite buses but that is a truly lovely old thing and looks like it was an absolute pleasure to drive. Never understood why the preselector gearbox went out of favour - they're so good to drive. Great video!
Great to hear an audible indicator,a lot of modern buses seem to have problems with silent indicators,so if you see a bus that hasn't cancelled their indicator, this could be why.
Great to see an RE again! I have fond memories of one of our school buses which was an ex-Ribble RE. Very comfortable and a pleasant change from the Leyland Nationals!
From my childhood travelling on buses was a great experience, going to school from Bordesley Green to near East Birmingham hospital was an adventure, waiting for the conductor to get back on after he/she had collected the enamelled tea jug to getting behind the driver in his half cab to watch him swing it round the Broadway island (not roundabout because it was oval I was told by a driver once). Then came the Antaleans no longer able to get behind the driver (bloody stairs in the way) so upfront sideways view, icy blasts in the winter, never wanted the bus to stop for passengers loved the gearshift actions better than a Ferrari gate shift, by 11 years old if given the chance I could have driven one as I had studied loads of drivers techniques. Cheers HubNuts lovely memories
Wonderful Ian, the sound of the Gardner with SCG semi auto, fantastic. What history and what a job on the restoration, like with cars, old buses are far more interesting than new
Congratulations to David for restoring this bus so well. It was interesting to hear it's history and of the options/variations which were available on these buses.
Having spent the first 10 years of my life in Burnley, I can just about remember the batch of 5 Bristol RE/Northern Counties buses David mentioned that Burnley, Colne & Nelson had. Great video, it really put a smile on my face seeing an old bus on the road, thank you!
Although never been a regular bus user these bring back such wonderful nostalgic thoughts. With a 47mph flat out speed these could be the "future" once again.
Driven like a pro, well done Ian. Chesterfield had a similar small fleet of these with Northern Counties bodies but built on Leyland Panther chassis, one is preserved ENU93H.
Never seen the RE with that type of Body, very Northern Counties indeed! Amazing restoration. My home town of Swansea had a few REs, and I remember riding in them, awed by the body flex and bloody noise! Great video, thanks.
As I always see the Bristol RE as well the VR and other bus products by Bristol, they are mostly with Eastern Coach Works, or ECW body due to their relationship with each other, but this NC body RESL really unique indeed!
The colour of those vinyl seats reminds me of what the late lamented John Fishwick & Sons of Leyland Lancashire had in their buses, particularly Leyland Nationals. Great review, I enjoyed it.
You really make that drive look effortless, fair play Ian. As a bus driver I can truly appreciate the driving experience, love the fact the door opener is integrated into the gearshift pattern, the modern buses have a "doorbrake" which prevents you moving if the door is open but is not failsafe. That looks stupid simple. brilliant!
Well that was another lovely bus trip! As soon as I saw the semi automatic selector i remembered the pause between gear changes. Took me back to trips to school and back watching the drivers changing gear and listening to the engine revs rise and fall. Brought back some nice memories. More buses please!
My mate has a Crosville RE stored at Hooton. Great buses and about 3 miles from where I live! It was Pontins Prestatyn not Haven and where the film Holiday on the buses was filmed. Silver Star in Caernarfon had many RE and LH in service not that long ago!
Bristol was owned by British Leyland from the 1960s, so it was always planned that the Leyland National would replace it, but Ulsterbus and Belfast Citybus liked it so much (and had a steady turnover of needing replacements) that it was kept going just for them well into the 1970s
had to stop n write this. gees that got me so emotional, hearing the sounds and i went back in time a long long way! if i was in there, i would get sooo emotional, tbh. you're a brave man Ian, driving that bus and keeping your senses together
Loving the wiper action! It reminds me of when I used to drive Leyland Olympians in service on rainy days.. both wipers doing a completely different thing, it amused me on challenging days when I was a bus driver. Thank you for uploading and interesting bus history.
Gorgeous! 👍 I always love how well documented bus lives tend to be. From the details still in existence from the corporations that ran them, to the enthusiasts who'd photograph them.
absolutely brilliant getting it back into this condition. Used to love driving these bristols on the 353/354 service. Just under the cab door there is a flap, in there used to be a brick to rest your left foot on , as the driving position was high.
Nice, I was brought up driving Bristols, Daimler and Leyland Fleetlines, Nationals as well as Volvo Ailsas in the 80,s when I worked in Edinburgh for Eastern Scottish. I remember we had a Bristol VF decker however it was built just before Leyland took over, however it was licenced as a Leyland although it was badged Bristol. Nice change of video Ian..
👍 Old bus & coach stuff on TH-cam is something I’ve been watching more and more since just before Christmas. The nostalgia factor. I was a kid during the privatisation of the service buses. I think one of the first service buses I remember was a Bristol, later replaced by the Atlantean. Coach wise, first memory was a Bedford Val 70….with its dog house front engine which was also very slow indeed especially going up hills. After that the dominant duple, and finally a big jump to DAF. Old buses maybe old but often featured new technology. Example is that transmission system. Semi automated. Ingenious and way ahead of car technology at the time. Big engine doesn’t need as many gears. Pull away in 2nd gear and no issue. Sounds very odd, but blending in the old American info….old cars with small numbers of gears or even, 2 speed automatic 😮….can work well if you got enough brute engine force to shove thru the system. Obviously in early days of motoring, nobody did. But once that became semi modern + V8, you got enough power with only 2 or 3 forward gears. Wacky wipers. I remember some of the Atlantean double deckers had out of sync wipers with the washer jets on the wiper arms.
David tells a fantastic story about his buses. I don’t ride buses regularly these days. Recently I rode on a Routemaster at a railway event in Loughborough, and was impressed by its smoothness. Then two weeks later a did a journey using a total of four modern Enviro buses around Derby. The ride and vibration were terrible! I find it hard to understand how refinement has gone backwards in 60 years of ‘progress’!
Wow! I was born in 77 and I swear I remember riding a Southern National one of these buses although I do remember the Leyland Nationals more and they looked really modern compared. Great vid and boy does that guy know his buses! Really enjoyed this one 👌
The rear end looks very similar to the East Lancs body design. The ECW flat screen design were standard fare for my trip to school in Hereford. Abergavenny also had R4865 (GAX 1C). The Marshall bodied examples had already transferred to SWT.
I really enjoyed this video. Loved hearing such a detailed history of the bus. Personally I prefer old private hire coaches rather than the service busses but all such content is welcome. Thanks David Ian. and Carly
Lovely old bus, love the wipers. Two places I recommend for a visit if you are in the North West are Manchester Transport Museum and Bury Transport Museum/East Lancashire Railway
Didn’t think I would be interested in old buses . But found myself really enjoying your bus videos you have converted me 😀. Will be waiting for the next one. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Old vehicles are often technically interesting since designers and engineers was still "experimenting". The layout and solutions used varied a lot. Like people usually goes "how on earth does that work?" when first time seeing/hearing an Commer TS3 engine in an bus or lorry (truck).
Great video again Ian. Wait till you get behind the wheel of a Leyland 680 powered RE, they can be like chalk and cheese compared to the Gardner powered versions. I'm about to start an engine swap on mine (the one in the corner of the shed where I keep the Super National, so the Gardner is coming out and a 680 going back in. A lot of work, but will be worth it in the long run.
Drove on RE Coach with that box so know the system well.....company engineer would go mad if he saw you pulling away in 2nd gear , but we have all done it .
the Bristol RE was my fav kind of bus i live in Mossley and we use to get them on the 350 service with Pennine Blue buses being going to Skipton vintage bus running day every October there was one there HDV626E and that was a really loud one ie the engine
I used to drive the Bristol RE's when I started at Blue Bus Services in Byker in the mid nineties. Great buses to drive and the sound they used to make. A touch more accelerator than necessary going down Grainger Street just to listen to them. Now we have dull Enviro 400's.
Great place just up the road from us, fabulous museum run by volunteers, great preservation and lots to see. Have done one of the bus rides, superb nostalgia.
HUGE respect to David for saving this bus!
I could spend hours listening to David talk about busses,his enthusiasm and knowledge are incredible. Bravo!
I love watching enthusiasts talking about their passions! Terrific bus, and lovely video.
Lovely that Ian,,,, and many thanks to David for preserving this only one Northern Counties RE left !
The gearbox was a product of a Leyland Motors subsidiary called Self Changing Gears of Coventry and first appeared fitted to the Mk 1 Leyland Atlantean in the very early 60s. It soon became a common fitment to vehicles of all types throughout the bus industry.
Not quite correct. This gearbox was built by Bristol Commercial Vehicles themselves, under licence from Self Changing Gears. SCG was founded by Walter Gordon Wilson, co-designer of the first tanks in the Great War. He conceived the epicyclic gearbox for tank use, though it never saw use in a tank until long after the war. His preselector gearbox only saw success in buses when Daimler obtained the rights to manufacture it, and mated it to the Vulkan-Sinclair coupling, which they christened the "fluid flywheel", later licensing AEC to use the combination. Leyland were twenty-five years behind in adopting the SCG gearbox when they developed their own direct-selection version in partnership with SCG, but they did not buy SCG until 1956, after which AEC, Bristol and Daimler all continued to build their own versions of SCG gearboxes under licence.
What a very interesting and knowledgeable man! Ian, you are a good interviewer because you allowed him to speak. Well driven!
Great bus and David is an absolute legend. Fantastic dedication to the cause!
When you look at older buses, they had a lot of advanced technology, even though they look quite basic.
They're also quite mechanically basic, the engines are quite simple. They're large capacity engines with bags of low down grunt, which means they can last forever. Modern buses have gone the same way as cars, using smaller capacity engines with high outputs, and they really don't last as well. For example, a Wright's Streetlite powered by a euro 6 Mercedes engine will be lucky to do 250,000 miles before they throw a con rod. 250k sounds a lot but in bus terms it really isn't.
buses running today look so much safer...
they have more character and style too
The door opener integrated with the gearshift is a great idea. Here in Sydney around 30 years ago a woman was dragged to her death after her leg became stuck in the door of a departing bus. The solution was to cut the corners off all the doors and cover the opening with rubber flaps.
@@samholdsworth420 The don't, they are mostly plastic.
Nice to see David and his bus, a gentleman i met a few years ago at Blackburn bus garage were he was a driver for Blackburn and Darwen council, lovely RE and well done David for keeping it that way, cheers Andy the bus electrician
Nice to hear from you Andy. I hope the Anglia's still going well?
This is a fabulous video. Lovely to hear people talk about their subject so passionately. Could listen to this man talk for a long time 😊😊😊😊😊
I could listen to enthusiasts like him all day, something different but more of thease would be great ❤
More buses to come...
I could listen to that guy all day!
More David! He’s done a great job of the Bristol😊
This has a 1970s Crosville look about it.
Happy memories.😊
Got engrossed in David's chat there. We had a bus at our scout group (in Stockport) but it was more like a coach than this Bristol, the engine blew up on a motorway coming back from North Wales so probably went to the scrap heap in the sky long before this was salvaged !!
What a lovely bus and a superb restoration of this 1960s classic.
The notice above the driver...To Seat/Standing is standard Greater Manchester Transport lettering.
Upstairs it usually said Fleas Don't Smoke. ;)
And then there was Please Mind Your Head / Fleas in Your Head.
Ulsterbus had a large fleet of REs, in their striking blue/creamy white livery. I used to travel on one regularly as a school bus. The scream from them as they charged downhill on the overrun was both exciting and terrifying in equal measure!
I, too, used to travel to school on an Ulsterbus, in the late 1970s. Sometimes the bus wasn't there, because they were usually set on fire. You'd always see them burning on the side of a road. I can still smell that burning rubber.
@@FrankJCarver yeah that's the way many of them ended up sadly.
I remember Bristol REs being a staple of Eastern Counties buses when I was a child. Good to see one again. Also remember six (and eight) cylinder Gardner engines were used in BR shunters - the Gardner 6L was used in the Class 01s at the Holyhead Breakwater.
Northern Counties were the best body builders.
It’s so good people save these old things
Once they are gone they are gone forever
Good one Ian 😍😍👍👍🇦🇺
I was born in Belfast in the late 80s and Bristol REs were still a common sight when I was a kid... (CityBus flogged them until they were done!) Beautiful buses!
I believe that Ulster continued to get REs for some time after the rest of the UK. My understanding was that the RE was made export only in order to promote sales of the Leyland National, but Northern Ireland was exempt from this due to a requirement that buses have locally built bodies. The REs operated in Ulster had bodies made in Belfast by Alexander, but the National, being unit construction did not allow for this option.
Is that a deliberate Jun Tzu quote?
I love the way the windscreen wipers rub the water in as apposed to wiping it away.
Used to drive this bus and the other 5 Bristol 50 years ago. Apart from the low bridge routes they did a Stalybridge to Glossop route in conjunction with the North western road car company
What a jolly thing. The bodywork and ventless windows makes it look a lot like a coach, especially from the rear.
As a kid, in the 80's, I was mesmerized by the craft of bus driving. Every time I tried to stand or even better, sit, in a position from where I could have a front row seat view on a driver driving.
Double clutching, button pushing, rev matching, windscreen wipers operating... All of that. It was the ASMR before there was any such thing 😅
"Ting, Ting, Fares Please" !
What a lovely video and THE 1967 BRISOL RE. I'm sure you enjoyed that Ian as we did. And by the way, You Ian are an excellent driver, well done 👍 🏁.
More Like This would be great ! *
Back in the days when driving a bus was hard work, thanks so much Ian!
Even harder coming soon!
Bristol Buses we all love you in your British Racing Green
When we're waiting at the Bus Stop seldom heard and never seen !
Happy memories of catching these all over Bristol in my youth
Thanks Ian.
Buy the way is that a Lodeka in the back of shout about 9.00 in ?.
Being a northern Seventies lad, the Leyland National and Atlantean will always be my favourite buses but that is a truly lovely old thing and looks like it was an absolute pleasure to drive. Never understood why the preselector gearbox went out of favour - they're so good to drive. Great video!
As a bus enthusiast myself, these are probably my favourite videos of yours. Love me an RE!
Great history and knowledge and nice to see it fully restored. Never new I wanted to drive an old bus till now...
Great to hear an audible indicator,a lot of modern buses seem to have problems with silent indicators,so if you see a bus that hasn't cancelled their indicator, this could be why.
Have to admire the dedication of the bus preservation guys.A friend has nine buses!Right double deckers.Nice Transit Flareside,in the background.
Great to see an RE again! I have fond memories of one of our school buses which was an ex-Ribble RE. Very comfortable and a pleasant change from the Leyland Nationals!
What a top man David is. First class subject knowledge. Thoroughly enjoyed listening to him. Thanks for posting this excellent review of YLG 717F
What a lovely vehicle. I drive modern buses and they are soulless and won't be remembered as fondly as these. Thanks Hubnut.
From my childhood travelling on buses was a great experience, going to school from Bordesley Green to near East Birmingham hospital was an adventure, waiting for the conductor to get back on after he/she had collected the enamelled tea jug to getting behind the driver in his half cab to watch him swing it round the Broadway island (not roundabout because it was oval I was told by a driver once). Then came the Antaleans no longer able to get behind the driver (bloody stairs in the way) so upfront sideways view, icy blasts in the winter, never wanted the bus to stop for passengers loved the gearshift actions better than a Ferrari gate shift, by 11 years old if given the chance I could have driven one as I had studied loads of drivers techniques.
Cheers HubNuts lovely memories
Fantastic. Lovely to see these beautiful vehicles being restored and cared for. The bus is a credit to its owner. ❤
Wonderful Ian, the sound of the Gardner with SCG semi auto, fantastic. What history and what a job on the restoration, like with cars, old buses are far more interesting than new
Congratulations to David for restoring this bus so well. It was interesting to hear it's history and of the options/variations which were available on these buses.
Could listen to David talk all day, than you Ian for allowing David tell the story and technical details
Having spent the first 10 years of my life in Burnley, I can just about remember the batch of 5 Bristol RE/Northern Counties buses David mentioned that Burnley, Colne & Nelson had. Great video, it really put a smile on my face seeing an old bus on the road, thank you!
Although never been a regular bus user these bring back such wonderful nostalgic thoughts. With a 47mph flat out speed these could be the "future" once again.
If you get a chance to drive a Leyland 0680 powered RE..grab it. What mellifluous growl they make
Loved this bus, nice big windows, it use to take us to swiming lessons from my school In stalybridge.
A great Tony Bastible video on TH-cam about correct operation of the band gearbox. Filmed in Bristol I think.
Called They Don't Grow on Trees, made by NBC as part of driver training.
MIDLAND RED! Their turbocharged coaches were awesome!
Remember the BCN ones very well. Dad drove for BCN upto 1977.
What an amazing treat to see you working the controls. So much education from your man.bus heaven .brilliant
Love the colour of the bus. Very green!!
"Tilling Green"!
Driven like a pro, well done Ian. Chesterfield had a similar small fleet of these with Northern Counties bodies but built on Leyland Panther chassis, one is preserved ENU93H.
Never seen the RE with that type of Body, very Northern Counties indeed! Amazing restoration. My home town of Swansea had a few REs, and I remember riding in them, awed by the body flex and bloody noise!
Great video, thanks.
As I always see the Bristol RE as well the VR and other bus products by Bristol, they are mostly with Eastern Coach Works, or ECW body due to their relationship with each other, but this NC body RESL really unique indeed!
The colour of those vinyl seats reminds me of what the late lamented John Fishwick & Sons of Leyland Lancashire had in their buses, particularly Leyland Nationals.
Great review, I enjoyed it.
You really make that drive look effortless, fair play Ian.
As a bus driver I can truly appreciate the driving experience, love the fact the door opener is integrated into the gearshift pattern, the modern buses have a "doorbrake" which prevents you moving if the door is open but is not failsafe. That looks stupid simple. brilliant!
Well that was another lovely bus trip! As soon as I saw the semi automatic selector i remembered the pause between gear changes. Took me back to trips to school and back watching the drivers changing gear and listening to the engine revs rise and fall. Brought back some nice memories. More buses please!
That man is a gem, knows more about busses than anyone I've seen on TH-cam 😊👍🇮🇪
More bus nerdery coming soon!
My mate has a Crosville RE stored at Hooton. Great buses and about 3 miles from where I live! It was Pontins Prestatyn not Haven and where the film Holiday on the buses was filmed. Silver Star in Caernarfon had many RE and LH in service not that long ago!
Yep I remember getting on those Silver Star buses. Lol.
Good to hear a semi auto Gardner 6HLX on this RE. Love the circular interior rear view mirror 👍
Lovely bus, glad it was saved.
What are lovely bus and the owner is full of knowledge as well.
Loved it Ian. Brought back memories when I was at college & rode on a bus from Chatteris to Wisbech everyday.
Bristol was owned by British Leyland from the 1960s, so it was always planned that the Leyland National would replace it, but Ulsterbus and Belfast Citybus liked it so much (and had a steady turnover of needing replacements) that it was kept going just for them well into the 1970s
And also for Christchurch New Zealand who needed a much lower rear axle loading than the National. Both also wanted locally made bodies...
had to stop n write this. gees that got me so emotional, hearing the sounds and i went back in time a long long way! if i was in there, i would get sooo emotional, tbh. you're a brave man Ian, driving that bus and keeping your senses together
A brave man drives an Invacar! This is just bigger
Loving the wiper action! It reminds me of when I used to drive Leyland Olympians in service on rainy days.. both wipers doing a completely different thing, it amused me on challenging days when I was a bus driver. Thank you for uploading and interesting bus history.
I love a wee bus review! Beautifully preserved and looks nice in that livery
Gorgeous! 👍 I always love how well documented bus lives tend to be. From the details still in existence from the corporations that ran them, to the enthusiasts who'd photograph them.
Drives Really NICE, May it long survive = solid technology 👌 👍
absolutely brilliant getting it back into this condition. Used to love driving these bristols on the 353/354 service. Just under the cab door there is a flap, in there used to be a brick to rest your left foot on , as the driving position was high.
Nice, I was brought up driving Bristols, Daimler and Leyland Fleetlines, Nationals as well as Volvo Ailsas in the 80,s when I worked in Edinburgh for Eastern Scottish. I remember we had a Bristol VF decker however it was built just before Leyland took over, however it was licenced as a Leyland although it was badged Bristol. Nice change of video Ian..
Absolutely fantastic video Ian miss hubnut ❤👍 what a beautiful old bus and on preservation list and absolutely fantasticly engineering brilliant
Nice to see one of my favourite buses, drove hundreds of miles in RE's bus & coach versions, loved the engine roar and the nice semi auto gearbox.
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Old bus & coach stuff on TH-cam is something I’ve been watching more and more since just before Christmas.
The nostalgia factor.
I was a kid during the privatisation of the service buses. I think one of the first service buses I remember was a Bristol, later replaced by the Atlantean. Coach wise, first memory was a Bedford Val 70….with its dog house front engine which was also very slow indeed especially going up hills. After that the dominant duple, and finally a big jump to DAF.
Old buses maybe old but often featured new technology.
Example is that transmission system. Semi automated. Ingenious and way ahead of car technology at the time.
Big engine doesn’t need as many gears.
Pull away in 2nd gear and no issue. Sounds very odd, but blending in the old American info….old cars with small numbers of gears or even, 2 speed automatic 😮….can work well if you got enough brute engine force to shove thru the system. Obviously in early days of motoring, nobody did. But once that became semi modern + V8, you got enough power with only 2 or 3 forward gears.
Wacky wipers.
I remember some of the Atlantean double deckers had out of sync wipers with the washer jets on the wiper arms.
I live in Mossley and I used to live up on Quickedge so that bus will have passed our house many a time back in the day.
David tells a fantastic story about his buses. I don’t ride buses regularly these days. Recently I rode on a Routemaster at a railway event in Loughborough, and was impressed by its smoothness. Then two weeks later a did a journey using a total of four modern Enviro buses around Derby. The ride and vibration were terrible! I find it hard to understand how refinement has gone backwards in 60 years of ‘progress’!
Wow! I was born in 77 and I swear I remember riding a Southern National one of these buses although I do remember the Leyland Nationals more and they looked really modern compared.
Great vid and boy does that guy know his buses!
Really enjoyed this one 👌
What a gem of a bus❤️👍
The rear end looks very similar to the East Lancs body design. The ECW flat screen design were standard fare for my trip to school in Hereford. Abergavenny also had R4865 (GAX 1C). The Marshall bodied examples had already transferred to SWT.
Another brilliant bus test Ian and thanks to David for letting you drive the bus.
I really enjoyed this video. Loved hearing such a detailed history of the bus. Personally I prefer old private hire coaches rather than the service busses but all such content is welcome. Thanks David Ian. and Carly
Lovely old bus, love the wipers. Two places I recommend for a visit if you are in the North West are Manchester Transport Museum and Bury Transport Museum/East Lancashire Railway
I went to the South Yorkshire Transport Museum in Rotherham, very interesting place, they do regular bus rides too....
Lovely bus and well driven too. I've only been lucky enough to drive an RE once and it was a pleasure.
Brilliant video. What a great person David is to put so much time and energy into preserving these important machines.
Super! Thanks for the pictures and the bus ride. And thanks for filming, Cameralady!
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Brilliant! Just brilliant! What fun to be able to have a drive!
Love that. So glad it’s been saved
Didn’t think I would be interested in old buses . But found myself really enjoying your bus videos you have converted me 😀. Will be waiting for the next one. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Old vehicles are often technically interesting since designers and engineers was still "experimenting". The layout and solutions used varied a lot. Like people usually goes "how on earth does that work?" when first time seeing/hearing an Commer TS3 engine in an bus or lorry (truck).
Great video again Ian. Wait till you get behind the wheel of a Leyland 680 powered RE, they can be like chalk and cheese compared to the Gardner powered versions. I'm about to start an engine swap on mine (the one in the corner of the shed where I keep the Super National, so the Gardner is coming out and a 680 going back in. A lot of work, but will be worth it in the long run.
What a great video! Very interesting subject, related by a lovely man who obviously eats, sleeps and breaths his hobby - great to see.
Drove on RE Coach with that box so know the system well.....company engineer would go mad if he saw you pulling away in 2nd gear , but we have all done it .
A wonderful restoration. A lot of passion went into this valuable bus. Fascinating stuff.
I love old Busses!!!
the Bristol RE was my fav kind of bus i live in Mossley and we use to get them on the 350 service with Pennine Blue buses being going to Skipton vintage bus running day every October there was one there HDV626E and that was a really loud one ie the engine
Lovely memories of Crosville buses serving the villages near me. Thanks!
Wonderful vintage bus I remember these in Bristol and Gloucester in the sixties….
I used to drive the Bristol RE's when I started at Blue Bus Services in Byker in the mid nineties. Great buses to drive and the sound they used to make. A touch more accelerator than necessary going down Grainger Street just to listen to them. Now we have dull Enviro 400's.
If only buses could stay this clean. I’m convinced many come out if the factory with a stale urine smell preinstalled.
Great place just up the road from us, fabulous museum run by volunteers, great preservation and lots to see. Have done one of the bus rides, superb nostalgia.
What an interesting bus, and what a fantastic restoration