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Great Chanel & content. Thx 4 the motivation
SteaIer. Its called a pendlay row. Give credit to the deceased
Judging by the exercises you showed, you're gonna hurt yourself. Please research further about dangerous exercises and avoid them yw
I took deadlifts out of my routine 6 months or so ago and my back is feeling healthier than ever. RDLs are my go to hip hinge (plus kb swings). It's an easy pill to swallow once you recognise you're not a powerlifter.
exactly. well said
Exactly.. Basement Bodybuilding said it just like you. For a bodybuilder the risk reward ratio of deadlifts is horrendous
Im alternating them
RDLs and Hyperextensions are better use of time and energy
Cope
I think something from the deadlift family is really valuable for 99% of the population. RDLs with light kettlebells are fine by me. Single leg DLs with really light kettlebells are also fine. Sure it is a different game for serious bodybuilders but let's not be telling average folks not to deadlift. There are guys at my gym who will not deadlift, because they have watched too many youtube videos telling them they are BAD.
I love deadlifts. My body always feels spent after I lift heavy deadlifts and the feeling is so good to me.
Nah add some farmers carries then you will truly 💯 be spent!
I only do RDLs with BB and conventional deadlift with trap bar now
If you’re over 40, you’re an outlier and are lucky 👍
@@IrishMexican
I still deadlift at 60. But I use 66lb dumbells and do sets of 25. You don't have to lift back breaking weights to get the benefit of deadlifts. This is what people never get..
Deadlifts are literally one of the most functional lifts in the entire lifting arsenal.
I think the issue is mostly concerned around loading and technique than anything else
even technique can be secondary as no deadlift will look the same. sure some basics need to be followed but most people hurt themselves because of load management. brace and engage your glutes. not much that can go wrong from there
Imo most ppls issues with the deadlift is they take it as close to failure as they would other exercises that aren't as fatiguing when that would serious fuck u up for days and when trying to train it more than once per week leads to poor load and fatigue management
Honestly, deadlifts get hate recently because they're hard and the lifting community is full of "science based" training which is just an excuse to train easier.
Thats the issue. Not everyone will have a good teacher to show them perfect form/technique and many people will automatically become ego lifters. And you dont need to do deadlifts to get strong either. I wish I had never deadlifted, I ended up herniating a disc.
@@wigletron2846 lazy people will always find excuses. Science tells you that you need to train hard to get results, thats how muscle growth works and we figured that out through the scientific method. don't hate on science, hate on the lazy people
Great video! Been doing Romanian Deadlifts exclusively for the last 7 years, and it's been one of the best training decisions I've made for hamstring growth.
Hey Mario 😊
And thats why youre still small after all these years of training
@@Crusher888 a natural cant be big and lean at the same time without steroids
a natural can be big and not aesthetic
as a natural depends what you are going to
its either one thing or the other
a guy on gear can be both at the same time simple
@@annaaffkhan Holy cope, yes a natural can be big and lean. Look at Geoffry verity Schofield, Golden one, Bald omni man etc
@@Crusher888 brother we are talking about sustainibility
a natural cant sustain such physique
even if they have peak genetics
people want to live there lives normally
not everyone wants to be a fitness influencer wtf
Το all people, do your deadlifts but without ego. Deadlift is the best mass builder. I am a guy who start deadlift 2 years ago because all gyms didnt allow this movement. Happy new year.
Happy new year
I'm 67. I love my 1970's open trap bar! It's great for both deadlifts and shoulder shrugs!
I agree! We are all breaking down and going super heavy will only speed up the process. That extreme weight is why we have forklifts.
Deadlift is King. Squats are Prince. Bench Press is Duke. That's how I approach my training.
Exactly you don't have to jack up the weight. They can still be useful for foundational strength which benefits isolation movements.
my RDL's are pretty much deadlifts. My arms reach all the way down basically.
Started doing em when I first started gym then they naturally just became full blown deadlifts.
Sounds like a rdl/stiff leg deadlift hybrid. This can be a very useful technique for some as well
Deadlift is the only lift that got me injured during my 30+ years of training.
As much as I loved it, I stopped doing the traditional barbell deadlift a long time ago.
I now do straight-legs dumbbell deads, half deads and shrugs in place of traditional DL.
Same!
Agreed, conventional DL's hurt my back. My form probably off and I dont have $ to get a trainer so I just stopped doing them. I now do hex-bar DL's and my back feels way better.
@@mannyortiz3656 If you are not competing there is almost no reason to do straight bar deadlifts tbh.
How about trap bar deadlift? They say it should safer. I've never had a problem with conventional deadlift, but I switched to the trap bar recently and I'm finding it more problematic than the conventional. Go figure...
@@bruttosporcoecattivo yeah, trap bar is a viable alternative! In the end, dumbbell DL is quite similar to trapbar in terms of dynamic and physiology, although it could be difficult to go for heavy loads and you may want to start from a rack or something, since lifting dumbbells from the ground will equate a deficit barbell deadlift. I think it can be a very beneficial and effective lift at higher rep ranges!
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Your channel has been amazing, my workouts have improved far beyond anything i could have imagined. The knowledge in your videos is second to none, I can't thank you enough. God bless.
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Deadlift is my favorite lift. I'm not saying you are in any way wrong in anything you say here, you are completely correct. For anyone who doesn't aspire specifically to deadlift a ton, the deadlift should be traded in after achieving a base strength of 4 plates for more suitable alternatives.
But I love the deadlift.
Same
tbh my hamstrings blew up doing dls. and my back got a lot thicker
Peter thank you for sharing this very informative video. Your recommendations have worked very well for me.
Making the switch from conventional to hex trap bar and Romanian deadlift variants, is the best game changer in my lifting journey. I am not a powerlifter, and therefore do not need to do conventional deadlift. Who cares what the "purists" say. I do what suits my needs. I lift for overall fitness and not in it for powerlifting. Hex trap bar and Romanian deadlift variants allow me to still train for strength and hypertrophy while being better for lower back health and recovery.
If you’re in for the fitness I recommend you try Hyperextensions for flutes / hams / lower back not only is this a great stretching movement it bulletproofs your lower back like nothing else
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@@user-us4mc7ej3c Yes, I do back extensions too. It's another game changer I found to really strengthen the posterior chain. I can "feel" the hams, glutes and lower back working hard.
Do them all with straps and an 8-13mm lifting belt then train grip on the side (at home with ironmind captain’s of crush grippers) to really irritate the purists and make MORE gains (including more grip gains training your grip more like a strongman)
I agree. I perform the Stiff Leg deadlift for my back as well as hamstrings and glutes. Love it.
Same. One of my favorites 👍
Excellent advice Peter, spot on
There's a reason people don't deadlift.. It's HARD. People don't want to do what's hard, they want what's easy.
It's hard but kinda pointless unless you're powerlifting for numbers. It's great for max strength but you can cheat leverage if you want to show off instead of actually using it to develop some absolute power. Dont need it for physique building.
Dorian Yates has always used RDLs and saved them for his last movement on back. He explained that saving the RDL for last helps to ensure he doesn't use too much weight since he's already fatigued from the other movements. Also, he prefers RDLs since they keep constant tension on the back, whereas you stop on DLs. They work great for me!
@@lukas6485 what drives growth then? Time under tension while moving?
@@lukas6485 no
@@What-he5pr total volums
@@What-he5pr effort(training to failure or close to failure)
@@lukas6485 so just peak load? Displacement doesn't matter? Why don't we just do isometrics?
I get his point completely, I used to do RDLs as my hip hinge however I noticed that when I incorporated Deadlifts or low block pulls, my back thickness when to the next level. It just completes the back imo and something can seem to replace them.
You can herniate a disk picking up a 10k plate if you are careless. My back used to give me problems but since I started doing deadlifts it’s bombproof. The deadlift is the best real-world strength builder you can do. The bad rep comes from people using poor form and weights that are too much for them. The old story.
I like RDLs and good mornings in a power rack where the pins are set to prevent you from going too low. Controlled descent and a nice reminder when to bring the weight back up. I also like weighted hyperextensions. I alternate from 45 degrees to 90 degrees every few months.
Awesome video, brother. I just found your channel recently, and I am really impressed by both the quality of the production and the information you provide. You have a no-nonsense approach to your training and coaching that everyone can benefit from. Thank you.
The D riding is nuts
Thanks for this sir!
1. To improve STRENGTH, the best exercise is the standard deadlift.
2. You must use perfect form on every single lift.
3. Concentrate on using your legs and glutes.
4. The deadlift is a great compound movement, that involves many different muscles.
To avoid injury, start slow and easy, using perfect form. Increase weight over time. You will benefit from lifting moderate weights. Avoid heavy weights until you have advanced.
He's not a strength athlete though hes a bodybuilder
I use rack pulls in a power rack. I have a wooden platform I stand on for my warmup sets, then remove it for my working sets. Saw it in a John Meadows video.
Solid content sir a learn a lot from you God Bless
Thank you. I appreciate the support 💪🏻
@@PeterKhatcherian I'm from Philippines by the way take care sir
Doing kettlebell swing can also be great hip hinge movements as well! Not only it can build up a bit on your hanstring and glutes etc, its also a great resistant cardio too. Swinging them with heavier weights too would make u a beast
I have had two umbilical hernia ops years back and felt a twinge and small amount of pain the other week doing DLs. Pain has gone away but feel it's not worth the risk so looking for alternative options that won't put as much pressure on the abdominal, suggestions?
RDL is really a good back exercise in addition to being a good hamstrings and glutes exercise. It overloads the back muscles with more total weight than any of the rows or pull ups. So it plays a vital role in overall back development.
RDL for hamstrings. SLDL for lower back.
Moderate and light load RDLs make my low back feel amazing. Never mind strength and physique - I think they're foundational for general health.
Related to this topic , in your OSMG program , you mention barbell deadlifts on the lower body day. Are those normal deadlifts(sumo/ conventional) or RDLs/SLDLs?
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They can be any deadlift the suits your personal preference and goal. They can be an rdl, stiff leg or trap bar. If you personally prefer a conventional deadlift that is fine but they are not a must do
@@PeterKhatcherian Thanks
Ive done DL for my 3 years of training, no issues but the recovery is longer and you can feel when you reach high numbers. RDLs are amazing too and i rotate them in every other week atm, maybe i should go for more RDLs instead, i used to replace barbell squats with DL for legs cause of shoulder issues on squats, but i still do plenty other squat veriation like hack squat, sissy squats front squats with dumbells and split squats.
What about rack pulls? Is it ok for bodybuilding compared to the RDL?
Pleasant Good afternoon thank you 🙏 and have an amazing New Year 🙏 really appreciate you 🙏
Great video can't lie 🔥🔥🔥
Have a small question: is using PPL+Rest split good idea for a beginner, if weekly volume is not high and he rests well?
As long as you are not running into recovery issues and progressing week to week you are good to go. Personally I prefer a bit more rest with 4-5 sessions total per week
@@PeterKhatcherian Thanks a lot!! Love your videos.
I like you podcasts because you talk about multiple ideas for building muscle.
RDL all the way!
I personally love the conventional deadlift but as I've gotten stronger at it I realised that volume wise it needs to be treated much differently from other lifts. Right now I'll do 1, maybe 2 sets of full ROM deads per week. The volume is made up from lighter, more mechanically difficult versions such as halting deadlifts and RDLs.
I used to mess with rack pulls instead of full ROM pulls as my heavy pull variation but theg don't work for me. Anywhere below the knee I'm significantly weaker than from the floor, and the lack of quad engagement makes it feel more taxing on my lower back. Above the knee, IMO, is frankly just an ego lift designed to ruin barbells. If I want overload for the upper traps with a good stretch I'll just do cheat shrugs with a trap bar.
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Great video! Put another way, conventional deadlifts are just not the optimal way to work any of those muscles. Squats for quads, RDL or SLDL for posterior chain, and rows/pull downs for lats. You really don't need to deadlift, especially if you aren't entering competitions for one. I think many people fall in love with normal or sumo deadlifts because it's usually the first movement they move "big" weights with. ...it's understandable, but a bad reason to do them.
Peter Khatcherian: I never deadlift; but I do Romanian deadlift.
People in Romania: So you deadlift.
Lol 💪🏻
Rack pulls below the knee are great. Save the low back and load the upper back and lats
If you're not a powerlifter, there's really no point in doing deadlifts. You can fully develop your entire posterior chain to it's maximum size, strength, and explosiveness with just RDLs, SLDLs, Good Mornings, and Power/ Hang Cleans.
I agree 💯
Hybrid Function If you train for general strength, you will greatly benefit from a conventional deadlift. And no, training for general strength is not same like training for powerlifting. Also, there is no need to do Power / Hang Cleans unless you're an athlete or olympic weightlifter.
I disagree. Nothing has added as much thickness to my back as deadlifts
deadlift is much more easier to figure out the form than any type of oly weightlifting exercise.
I agree however rotating variations will help. Deadlift injuries are mostly from improper form or ego lifting.
I recently replaced traditional DL with trapbar dl. I'm glad I made the switch.
Absolutely agree. You can break a deadlift in half and have an upper body workout with the upper portion, lower body just requires the bar behind your legs in a hack squat. Conventional deadlifts are awesome for strength.... bodybuilding needs condensed more specific variations
Interestingly, I struggle more with RDLS than I do deadlifting and the technical front.
I agree on the recovery, however.
I deadlift because I enjoy it. It has good crossover over well to my sport and job as well.
Also really feel like my back responds really well to deadlifts
What do you think of Smith machine chest presses as machined alternative to regular barbell bench press?
Been doing trap bar dead lifts in stead of standard barbell deadlifts and the lifting mechanics is so much better in my back
Trap Bar RDLs are so underrated , you still get a good stretch on the hamstrings if you switch to low handles .Plus you get a sick upper back and traps pump. I use RDLs and thede if I want a hip hinge that’s a bit easier on the lower back and more emphasis on the hammies.
K-Rod They have no benefits when compared to regular RDLs except the fact that you get more variety which can prevent overuse injuries, but even for this case, goodmornings are a lot better. I also don't understand why you care so much about "pump." "Pump" has nothing to do with muscle growth and it's not an indicator of anything.
dumbell dead lifts with hands at your sides seems to actually hurt my low back less than an rdl for what ever reason, I'm contemplating just using my belt when ever i do db dead lifts just to keep the old low back safer.
Would you consider kettlebell swings a sufficient hip hinge movement in this context?
Just got into weight lifting about 2 months ago and I’m doing PPL. But I’m really not sure if my pull workout is good, what is an ideal pull workout with all the fundamental lifts for someone like me (Pull-Ups? Bent over rows?)
What’s your view on rack pulls? I feel like it’s a massive underrated exercise for bodybuilding.
I just recently started doing rack Pulls and I must say, I'm loving it. I genuinely don't like doing barbell row exercises as I find them taxing on my lower back, even when performed with proper form. Rack Pulls are a great alternative for an exercise you can lift heavy on your back with less risk.
@@afrodude4782 curious how do rack pulls replace rows?
@@jack8998 I wouldn't say Rack Pulls completely replace rows, but In terms of going heavy, I find that exercise much better than Barbell Rows. Other alternatives that's less taxing would also be a Pendlay Row, or a Chest Supported Row, which is excellent for lower back preservation
@@afrodude4782 Rack pulls put even more stress on spine than any deadlift. They also have really bad stimulus to fatigue ratio.
Rack pulls don't replace rowing, but they will get you huge traps and upper back very quickly
I do good mornings one of my lower body days and deficit SLDLS on back day. I love large ROM hip hinge movements
Hey bro love your knowledge and the information you give us. Can you speak on working out through minor injuries ? I don't want to not workout while I have a minor injury. I feel a minor workout with the injury is a form of rehab. Do you agree or anyone else on this channel. I appreciate the help and everyone stay Blessed and Strong
Deadlifts gave me sore and slightly protruding tendons in my groin, and a bulge on my left inner leg/thigh. The bulge is crowding my nads. What is this??? Help would be appreciated
Hang on, hang on, haaaaannnnng on!!!!! 😮 I bought the 5 day mass program a few months ago. I don’t want to give parts of your program away to those who haven’t paid for it but…. what’s on Day 2? Barbel Deadlifts! I’ve been following your videos since you started posting them on TH-cam as your content is great pragmatic advice and there’s no gimmicks, no spin, no ads for supplements.
One of the most consistent themes of your videos Peter is, “try not to get caught up in all the science and the fashionable techniques, if you want to build muscle the old school way, you have to use proven methods such as using the big compound movements”.
I started doing this properly around two years ago, focusing more on squats, bench and deadlifts along with a solid diet of old school style meat and dairy. I gained over 30lbs in those two years. Having spent a few years beforehand at the same weight, I know it was from doing these bigger compound movements. Yes the deadlift is hard, takes time to master and I can only manage a heavy session once a fortnight (being 42 years old and taking forever to recover) but the gains in size and strength are unquestionable.
As a final comment, the silver and golden era bb guys all did these and from his videos, it’s a staple movement of CBum’s. I’m in no way doubting what works for you Pete but I think people who watch this should be careful that they don’t dismiss doing deadlifts because of it.
PS. Some videos on performing some of the proper technique for different movements would be great for those of us who train on our own, thanks.
Yes deadlifts and hip hinges are in my program. My point was the explain that you never have to be a slave to one exercise. I personally recommend that in my programs you use the deadlift variation ther best fits your goals and preferences. If that’s a conventional deadlift than by all means go for it. If you have simailr goals to me you might want to use an rdl or stiff leg even a trap bar in place of it. Bottom like you should deadlift but it doesn’t have to be a conventional stance
Doing RDL or SLDL with a snatch grip (very wide) help me feel my back (including lats) a lot more than doing them with a conventional grip. But it decreases the ROM a bit, so it takes a little off the hamstrings. Depending on what you’re after, either grip makes the RDL/SLDL a must in the rotation.
Snatch grip definitely makes it much harder. A great option as well
@@Mks25932 it decreases ROM at the bottom of the movement, at least for me. I can’t bend as far holding the bar with a snatch grip as I can with a conventional grip. That’s what I’m referring to. I agree with you about the top part of the lift.
What do you think of matching trap bar deadlifts with RDLs?
Aside from heavy squats being a close second nothing and I repeat nothing has built muscle for me like heavy deadlift variations. Deadlifts are a MUST! Nice being very strong too.
@@micker9830 honestly you can say same about any lift if you’re trying to max your numbers and don’t have sensible programming (and even then etc). I’m a hobby powerlifter, albeit older and not particularly good, but my tweaks, tears and issues have been 1. Squat, 2. Bench and deadlift a very very distant third but I also recognise people built differently and some people are bulletproof squatters etc…
@@micker9830 Yeah, and unlike most other exercises, you can completely screw up your form after the 3-4 reps without you even noticing it. You can't have anyone stand there watching you during the entire exercise. Why do it at all, since 4/5 times I'm doing it wrong?
I love the RDL, but if I want to make it a main movement, wouldn't it be hard to make do with a low rep range?
What sort of rep range do you go for in RDL s? How much weight?
Yes, conventional deadlifts are not worth the risk, and RDLs are superior.
But - trap bar deadlifts let you include the quads without destroying your back. They also let you pull more weight.
Personally I do trap bar deadlifts and RDLs, though not on the same days.
I used to program conventional deadlift on the last day because I know I need at least 2 days to recover. It's truly a lower back killer. Making the switch to trap bar and Romanian variants of deadlift is a game changer. My lower back no longer has recovery issues, and I still get the benefits of hip hinging movements.
M T RDLs are not "superior". They are a really good exercise and they have less axial loading on the spine, but they are not "superior" in any way. And I don't know what makes you think that moving more weight is a good thing. The only reason why you can move more weight on trap bar deadlifts is because you have a partial range of motion, which is shorter than on regular deadlifts. This means that trap bar deadlifts with high handles have worse stimulus to fatigue ratio than conventional deadlifts. You lift more which means more axial loading (which impedes recovery a lot) but all muscles are getting worked through shorter range of motion which means less total stimulus and less workload / tension on the muscle.
Thx!
What’s your take on Barbell Hack Squat?
Deadlifts are an ego lift...I've seen so many guys deadlifting over 500 with no lats or quad sweep, barely looking like they workout. I get great results doing a stiff leg with 135 to 275 lbs for higher reps and constant tension...why the hell would you want to lift all that weight when you're not getting appreciable size or shape from it? I usually do the stiff legs in conjunction with leg curls on leg day, but they definitely work the lumbar and traps to an extent. On back day I focus on pull-ups, bent rows (where I actually bend over, not this modern ego lift way of standing up), t-bars and various cable exercises.
The weight is a tool!
I don’t do deadlifts to precisely get stronger in the lift. I just do them because I think pushing my bones, joints, tendons and muscles to the max once every week can only do good. So long as I don’t reach the breaking point.
What is very important to really get stronger I think are squats, and I practice them for reps and sets meticulously.
I've seen Ton of these, most debated topic in recent times !
Negatives as they talk are "Injuries" and "Hypertrophy" , DL's wear you out like anything if you go hard enough you won't have energy to perform the next exercises, you'll be gasping for Air and moreover it activates your CNS so good overall. If you're a newbie do your DL's if you're a Advanced lifter do what feels good for you Simple
Whenever I do RDLs I only feel my hamstrings and glutes. Am I not lifting heavy enough yet or am I doing them wrong?
Good vid man. Conventional deadlifts always eventually tweak my back, always. I tried the sumo style as well which is better for my lower back but I run up against the same lower back pain as I get stronger. Some have great biomechanics for the lift and can progressively overload safely, I don't. Unless you're a professional strength guy it is unnecessary and there are safer alternatives for hip hinging. Don't hurt yourself trying to impress barbell purists.
what's your thought on rack pull
Thoughts on chest/triceps Back biceps. Legs/shoulders rest repeat
That is same like ppl split, for some people it can be a lot maybe try upper lower and full split or ppl and upper lower.
What about rack pulls?
I do hex bar and sumo deadlifts, comfy and safe movements for me and my 3 lumbar surgeries.
Thoughts on rack pulls?
Pete knows people, bro knows stuff. Romanian is much better than classic deadlift-since i started with RDL i improved a lot. It works like a charm
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RDLs are king for bodybuilding.
Deadlifts are the only exercise that give me discernable physique and body comp improvements. The king of all lifts.
Deadlifts are a great exercise that in general most people should be doing. The problem is people are obsessed with one rep sets with the heaviest weight possible at the cost of complete form breakdown.
Unfortunately, I can't perform RDLs properly because I can't reach below my knees without bending my back. Any suggestions to improve my hamstring mobility?
Stretch your hamstrings 🤷♂️
@@yeeeaaahmayneee3808 youre right, no way around it
That can be as simple as stretching to touch your toes for a couple of minutes per day. Calisthenics/ gymnast videos will give you great pointers.
I say this as someone who had to sit down to tie his shoelaces I was so inflexible.
I always thought the weighted stretch would help you, and the reduced rom just means you need to work it more. Normal stretching works well.
Probably not a mobility issue. Most people actually have good enough hamstring mobility, but their hamstrings are too weak to support their weight. Do RDLs and hamstring curls (prone) with as much ROM as possible even if it means sacrificing weight. That should be build you a decent mobility base.
Just ask yourself. Risk vs. reward. To each their own.
Deadlifts are (were?) an automatic 2-3 days recuperation away from gym. I got messed up the last time I did them. I went at them a little too fast and furious, plus my form was not good. Ended up with a disc slippage in my neck that cut off the nerves to my legs. I was walking and they fell out from under me. The above is what was found in the x-rays. This happened last February.
I love doing them, but I'm honestly kinda scared to do them again. Haven't done them since then.
Maybe start w/ just the bar? I got injured doing squats and to mentally get over the fear of re-injury I told myself the first 4 leg days I’ll warm up with the bar, working up to 40% of my 1RM on back squat
And then very slowly add weight till your back to where you were
Too risky for such a little reward aka heavy conventional deadlifts, I would recommend you to just stick to romanian deadlifts for the posterior chain glutes/hams with moderate weight, Rows/pull ups for you back and there you go.✌🏼 (also wish you luck on your recovery though.)
What about hyper extensions / back extensions?
These are my go too (while holding dumbbells). Curious if others feel they are comparable to other lower back movements. I feel like they are a truer "isolation" movement for the lower back. I'm not trying to make my lower back too thick, but don't want the muscles to be weak, that's why I prefer these in my routine.
i love deadlift, but i stopped doing them for a while cuz i've focusing on squats getting stronger and doing numbers that doing deadlifts and squat took a toll in my body, my lower back was really sore and i had to choose between squats and deadlifts so i went with squats. Again i love deadlifts is a great excersise i love doing it is fun, but is not in my plans right now. im 158 lbs and my max deadlift was 350 lbs
For me, I don't care about becoming the absolute strongest I can be. My goals are to be as big as I can be (naturally), while developing a reasonable amount of strength to be able to function in life, and to be able to help my neighbor move a couch up a flight of stairs when I need to. I also care about long term joint health. For me, I choose to do RDLs because they provide a great stimulus and stretch in the hams and glutes, but also target the entire posterior chain. Maybe not optimal for strength development, but they still do well building decent strength as well as being a movement to pack on tons of muscle in the hams, glutes, and potentially even the traps, lats and rear delts.
I love love love the deadlift, but honestly my body just doesn’t recover well once they are in rotation for more than 6 weeks and the aches and pains start. I’ve just come to realise to remain active in the gym I need to leave them out, even though I adore the movement
If you do a Romanian deadlift you are doing at least 1 normal deadlift off the floor to get the weight up. Am.i missing something?
I completely agree 👍💯 I never did traditional deadlifts. I always do stiff leg deadlifts and never touch the floor the whole movement until I finish the set which keeps constant tension on hamstrings and spinal erectors which is how I built a perfect Christmas tree 🎄 as well as piano wires in my hamstrings. That's why a lot of professional bodybuilders don't have good Christmas trees because they go down the floor on every rep which just puts you in the risk of injury and is most likely how they get nerve damage in that lower back region. I'm no professional bodybuilder and I don't compete, but I've been training for almost 20 years.
FINALLLLYYYYYY SOMEONE GETS IT.
The conventional deadlift has injured my lower back a few times. There’s very little room for form error, thus risky. I much prefer the Romanian Deadlift - RDL.
I love this.
You even started the video talking about the back, when the deadlift mainly hits the hamstrings which makes me think that you think that the deadlift is a back exercise. Other than that you are right that you don't need to do deadlift if you want to be a bodybuilder. Let's put the ego aside and ask the question. Are you not doing deadlift because every time you do it you do not apply periodisation correctly or people aren't made to do hip hinges with heavy weights?
Jordan talked about this year's ago
Facts! I haven't deadlifted in years. If you want a big back, vertical and horizontal pulls get the job done just fine 💪
Vertical and horizontal pulls won't train your spinal erectors.
No one really cares about that for astetics
@@israelmadethisone316 Are you serious? Training your erectors will make your back look much thicker and more aesthetic.
@@israelmadethisone316 Spinal erectors are just as big as lats and they are extremly important for having a huge back. "Aesthetics" basically means looking like a pretty boy. If that's what you want, then go for it, but I don't want to look like a pretty boy who can't lift anything. I want to look like a strong and powerful man, and that's why I focus on spinal erectors and upper back more than on pretty boy beach muscles like lats.
@@marksmith2806 "Aesthetics basically means looking like a pretty boy" lol no it doesn't. Anesthetics can mean looking like Steve Reeves or John McWilliams. Both were massive in their own right but maintained flow and symmetry. People who put all their stock in strength training have unbalanced physiques and claim they are "torso dominant " when all they do is deadlift , bench and squat while neglecting isolation movements.
Mostly it is all about programming when people have issues with their lower Backs, doing too much Volume etc.. Trap Bar Deads, Blockpulls are awesome exercises as well.
Love the tarantino vibe
Out of curiosity, how does the load you use on your RDLs compare to your standard deadlift?
I personally use about 10% less weight on rdl
How about the 45 degree Extension?
some people are probably just too attached with the deadlift, probably because deadlift is their best lift while not having anything else to show for.
I never do deadlifts i jus build my lower back by rdl and barbell row