Fighter Gets Knocked Out Then Starts Fighting Ref at UFC 286
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มี.ค. 2023
- Sam Patterson lost his fight at UFC 286 and after the stoppage he appeared to be still be trying to fight - expect it was against the ref. Why did this happen and what does it mean?
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Thanks for the insight, doc. It’s always scary to see someone who’s completely gone like that. Glad to hear this likely won’t be anything severe for the young man.
Cte
It's always severe just later in life they end up dying at 65 of some degenerative brain issue and nobody realizes.
@@sleeplessomniman5204 cte
@@sleeplessomniman5204 cte is just the dark horse of any sport involving head contact, can still be grateful this young fighter won't be severely affected. all these guys gonna have forms of cte when they are older
lmao hush he is not real doctor he is youtuber
Can you break down what happened to Mokaev's knee, specifically what sort of long term damage was he risking by not tapping.
Yes I agree
Agreed
the ligaments in his knees likely have microtears in it now and will cause him worsening pain in the future until he finally blows it in the middle of training/match. Shoulda just tapped, his hype train got derailed anyway he looked like a deer in headlights in that fight but he just had the dagestani genes
@@Stanky_Foot how the hell did his train got derailed? if you guys have soo many exceptions on him that you just think he will go there and walk through everybody then that's your problem, not his. the man just keeps showing how good he's and he's still so young.
@@Youssef-hd5bl He did not look impressive in his last fight at all. I don't know what you saw.
This guy got up faster than Aljo
Lmao
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Jeez. I'd love to get in a match. Line up an illegal knee, and then tell my opponent "if you dont keep fighting, you're a bitch" and force him to fight while compromised from an illegal blow. Since that's what you people prefer 😂😂
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@@BrianSuttererMD would you do a video on Mohammed mokaev? Ik he didn’t tap to the kneebar but that was nastyyyy
im shocked he doesn't have atleast 1m subs. he's always quick to put these videos out and gives a breakdown and when he concludes what injury it is, hes right 90% of the time. great channel and very underrated
@@icydaddy completely agree with all the craziness and bizarro behavior passing for creative content this days someone like Doctor Brian who’s smart caring a good person and a terrific teacher really stands out
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@@ImJuvie that dude’s knee has to be toast after not tapping to that knee bar. I know he didn’t want a loss, but dang that’s risky to your whole career
These are the hard stoppages for the ref. Its just better to too stop it early than it is to stop it late. People will complain regardless but at least the fighters brain was protected.
True, I’d rather they er on the side of caution. I think Goddard is overall a great ref though
@@BrianSuttererMD 100% its a hard judgement call for sure and they want to do a good job.
@@BrianSuttererMD I believe Marc was like this because all the israel adesanya fans said he stopped his fight vs pereira early.
@@ImJuvie he saved adesanya, a well placed knee (that pereira does like) would’ve changed Israel.
@@coolbreeze3793 yep. Or another left hook, pereira woulda shut his lights out.
Thanks Dr Brian, love your channel, one of my favorite sports channels and medical channels on TH-cam
Scariest clip I've seen was this fighter who kept fighting the air and then died.
my first thought when i saw pattersons reaction. scary!
really trying to find a health update on him, but he is going to be okay!
Oh yeah in south africa head trauma is no joke.
I'm sure that's the case everywhere mei brur.
You are one of the best TH-cam content creators ever. Not only do you really know your stuff, but your selflessness in breaking down everything to make us smarter as opposed to withholding it or using our lack of insight to your advantage gives me more faith that there are doctors who actually take our best interests at heart. It's refreshing to have a channel that I know will give me more clarity with each new video.
I was waiting for this one ☝🏼 Thanks Doc!
Thanks Doc for the great insight on concussions. A topic that must be covered in the sport of MMA irregardless of popularity of the subject. 2022 saw some of the scariest and saddest deaths of young men in boxing. With smaller gloves in MMA than in boxing, it can be a lethal sport.
wrong. do some research on the MMA mortality rate before spreading misinformation like this.
Damn that's some scary stuff. Dude had no idea what he was doing
And he was well trained enough that he was still making strong moves.
@@JinKee his insticts as a fighter was still there.
not gonna lie i was worried! i have obviously seen a KO'd fighter sleepfight a ref for a few seconds, but never that long.
Goddard did great at that stage of the procession, not doing anything aggressive and trying to talk as calmingly as possible in his ear, while making sure he couldn't hurt himself and get out from the cage wall.
What a interesting video! I'm really liking this videos that aren't just about some specific injury but are about what's happening in a phenomenon like this. Great video!
Doc you are the best love all of your content.
Great discussion on concussions. Thanks for the information.
Thats a career stopping ko.....
Hey Doc, love watching your videos! Could you please breakdown the kneebar on Mokaev?
👏🏻 thanks, doc!
Great video as always!
In high school football years ago something like this kinda happened to me. I lost my helmet during a tackle and took another helmet to the head while I was going down. I had a bad concussion and after slowly working myself up to walk off I was wobbly walking to the sideline and the medical trainer saw me and came out to help. When he came over I tried tackling him (more like I attempted to tackle him but I pretty much just fell on him). 3 days later my parents were talking about it and I didn’t remember any of that happening. It was scary knowing I involuntarily did something and had no recollection of. That was the day I realized how serious concussions actually are
I have a similar story. I went head to head during a game. I guess I ran to the wrong sideline and started crying and screaming(😅embarrassed every time i think about it)at their coach. I don't remember any of it, scary stuff
ya that shit is def scary
Incredible work comrade. 👏
Thanks dude!
I don't remember his name, but this reminds me of the boxer who started boxing a corner. Unfortunately he died later that day from a brain bleed. All these fighters put their bodies on the line
Nah that was worse, man was lit fighting thin air In that boxing vid
Simo Buthelezi was his name I believe
Rip
The South Africa one? Boxing can be way more scary since you don't always get stopped like taking a couple 2x4s to the head. You get the "straw that broke the camel's back" that just accumulate.
@@sbmuss7118 bro it was really bad, you’re not seeing the whole thing - it was pretty scary because i’m 100% sure he was out at least 8 punched before stoppage, plus he smacked the back of his head really bad on the floor. he was trying to fight for at least 2/3 minutes after he was out
Cool video! Nice explanation 🤙🏼
This dude has seen everything, nothing can surprise this doctor anymore.
I was fearing the worst, I was so scared, God bless this guy, I hope he's ok, it was very very hard to watch :(
It's gonna be alright.
He's fine back in gym and training hard
Thanks for the insight man. That’s really crazy stuff how the brain can leave him in fighting mode but not allow him to realize that he was knocked out or that the cage is full of people
This really is how it should be. Early stop and the fighter can fight again maybe get a rematch, late stoppage they may never fight again.
Much respect to the many quality referees and the fighters who know when to stop, I hate seeing that "I was giving him a chance to be a warrior" excuse *cough* Herb Dean *cough* Mario "If he died he dies" Yamasaki
Mario Yamasaki is the most dangerous man to ever enter the cage.
Love this channel
Please do a reaction to the mokaev leg lock 😳 I want to know what kind of damage was done and how that will affect his career in the long run
Can you please make a more indepth explanation on concussion like everything u know about the topic and perhaps good advices for the recovery period etc. Great input there by the way. Much appreciated
great explanation
Pure instinct. That shows it was NOT a late stoppage. He was totally out of it.
Great video
I think his pre fight winning mindset and the desire of not giving up by any means whilst performing in front of his own crowd played a significant part too, on top of a concussion.
dude, never seen something like this, very scary and certainly a very dark side of fighting, that we only got a glimpse via this incident
It's actually quite common, but doesn't usually last this long.
@@joeschmoe6908 that’s why he’s said he’s “never seen something like this.” We’ve all seen the classic shoot for a single on the ref after you’re out cold, but not this.
That Football player that collapsed from a heart arrhythmia was much scarier.
I was wondering if you can make a video on the Edwin Diaz knee injury during the World Baseball Classic.
This was a crazy knockout! Stood me up!
With concussion injuries like this, would you be happy to just observe the athlete or would you consider imaging? I imagine the duration of symptoms would be an important factor in deciding between the two, but I'm keen to know how you would approach such a case. Thanks
Please do one of those for the Mokaev knee injury. Everybody is concerned that he might have ruined his career by not tapping. You`re the man !
He definitely made a mistake imo career wise imo
@@goonytunes4119 yeah that kneebar was really nasty and I watched his post fight press he said he heard more than four cracks and actually thought that his knee had been ripped out mane 🤦🏾♂️
Mokaevs stock dropped for me. He said he could beat Moreno and Pantoja but they would strangle him in the first round.
He's over rated imo, I felt this way after his Malcolm Gordon fight almost getting caught in an arm bar
@@goonytunes4119 he`s 22.
Pedestrians and cops need to take this explanation by the doctor to heart….A person gets in an accident that involves head trauma (like a fight,car accident etc;), they may then try to fight you while you’re trying to help them…They may not be intentionally trying to harm you….A firearm presented in those situations adds a different threshold of danger, but cops especially need to view car accidents and such with a little more scrutiny, even if a firearm is simply “near” a person that’s disoriented.
Cops shoot first and ask questions later
@@KaitouKaiju Yes….Too many in fact. That’s the point of my post.
great video! can you break down mohammad mokaev's knee and how he survived? he also has injury update pictures on social media where his knee has swelled to the size of his head
Waiting for doc to speak on CTE and the comparison of it in the NFL & MMA.
can we get a Mokaev breakdown and what likely happend to his knee? man is a beast to still get his own sub after that kneebar he didnt tap to..
You should make a video on makaev's knee. What kind of damage could we be looking at?
Hi Dr Brian, any thoughts on the management of Edwin Diaz in the Puerto Rico vs Dominican Rep WBC game? It infuriated me that the coaches tried to pick him up and carry him off the field supporting him under the knees, before putting him in a wheelchair, even though it was after the game and there was no rush to move him. Why not just wait for the cart and the medical professionals to handle the situation that they are trained for without potentially causing further injury?
Thx u for the SMART PILL-CHEERS
Are you able to do the 2 fights that had acl injuries in this card too!?
What's up doc? I was wondering if you could do a video on Conor's leg and how the stabilizing pin(s) might affect his fighting, his movement, his ability to take and receive damage, etc...? Specifically, what are the possible advantages and disadvantages of coming in with internal hardware? Maybe you have already done such a video?
Remember Fight Disciples (Adam Catterall and Nick Peet's podcast) talking about Patterson ahead of his Contender Series fight (think it was the same day Bo Nickal got his UFC contract).
Really sad this is how it turned out, but hopefully as you see it's no worse than a "normal" concussion at least.
I'm glad you agree with me as far as it not being so obvious that it was a late stoppage. John Annick was very critical of this particular stoppage and I disagree with him. It's unfortunate, and certainly a bit shocking of a sight to see, but the ref stopped it as soon as he stopped intelligently defending himself.
Better than the "concussion protocol" farce we see in the NFL sometimes where guys go into the tent for 2 seconds then come back out.
Dr. I just want to know how Mokaev didn't tap on that Knee Bar! Also, how many ligaments he could had torn 😢
All of them.
I watched every fight and still missed this I left the room when the fight was stopped lol
I came to after surgery once in the recovery room having a conversation with my friend in his house. The nurse materialised and ask me who I was talking to and laughed.
Good breakdown. People often think that concussions happen in fights when the fighter goes completely out but many fighters suffer concussions even while winning the fight.
Basically, going out doesn't guarentee a concussion and not going out doesn't save you from a concussion.
Just a 1 example, when the korean zombie fought Brian Ortega he got hit with a hard spinning elbow that sat him down and he got back up and fought to a decision.
After the fight Zombie said in interviews that he does not remember the last 3 rounds of the fight.
He 100% got concussed judging from the memory loss but still got up and kept fighting.
To sum it up, concussions are weird.
So glad I subbed to this channel
Your brain is not meant to be shut off ever, but hey you wanna be a fighter.
Hey Doctor Brian, could you explain what happend to Mokaevs knee in the leglock? Looked really nasty...
Dude was Rock Lee out there
Yeah this freaked me out live I've never seen someone try to fight the ref for that long before
Concussion is a very strange time , ive had a quite a few. Had word loss in one. Lost certain words from my vocabulary for few days, another couldnt remember where i lived. Like cuircuits of your mind arent connected but main system still running
I've been knocked out and whenever I wake up I'm terrified it's no joke. I go into fight mode more than I ever have when the first fight started
Review the Dusko Todorovic fight if you can looked like a serious injury!
You could actually see the ripple effect on that injury. That was a pretty bad one. The other one was Mokaev not tapping to the knee bar. I’m pretty sure his knee is destroyed after that one, but he didn’t want a loss.
As you say at the end, aggression could also be the result of a serious brain injury. Can you cover that, too, Brian, in regards to why you think it isn't a serious brain injury and what you'd expect to see if it was a serious brain injury? I'm guessing the aggression just wouldn't stop if it was more serious?
Do you think it’s better when the guy goes out cold immediately like Leon vs Usman 2, no follow up shots. Compared to guys getting rocked and then taking more shots trying to recover? Or is it different everytime
Whenever I need a sports answer , boom.
Refuses glove touch then gets hilariously obliterated.
How many concussions does it take to lead to cte? Is there a number?
Fight fans have seen this before. His mind was still in the moment before he went unconscious.
The fight game is very dark.
I can imagine this guy in his drs office with the fights on his computer 😂
Hi can you do a breakdown of the Mohammad Mokaev knee injury from the prelims
Brian! Can you do a break down on what could be wrong with Mohamed Moklaev knee? His ACL and MCL, all of it has to be destroyed and he still got the win... He just put pictures up and he can't walk now and his left knee is swollen to three times the size. How long do you think he will be out??? Do you think he even can come back??? He would be like 13-0. The guy is a warrior
This happened to me when I got hit on the back of my head I couldn't remember what happened or where I was or what day or date... It took me nearly two weeks to fully recover
One time, a buddy of mine got knocked out at this party. He woke up and thought it was 2 weeks ago. I let him think we were going out of town for the weekend, too, but we already did, lol.
Professional referee acting in a professional way. Props 💯
This reminds me when Rock lee body took over and continued to fight even though he was dazed like this man
I’d fight the ref too if he let my opponent keep punching my face in
I saw your slap fighting video and you clearly don’t believe that is a safe sport. Is this significantly different? Love your videos.
Goddard handled it well. Held the guy and calmly talked to him.
Some people say Max Rohskopf was quiter, but for me he was smart enough to save his own life
Goddard and the team did a great job 👏. I wonder if they rang the round ending bell if he would have snapper out of it sooner.
Dude was knocked into a time loop. Hence the term "knocked for a loop". 🤕
mokaev's knee, should also do a video about it
100% agree that to wasn't a clear cut late stoppage. People are just echoing what the announcers said.
Bro that had me worried
Plz do analysis of Mokaevs knee. Can not tapping to a knee-bar that bad affect your career
If this was an NFL doctor:
“Looks like a back injury to me. He can fight again in two days”
That makes no sense! You obviously aren’t educated
@@robertsterling951 you clearly dont get the joke.
As fight fans who knows some of stuff Goddard pulled
It’s sad he didn’t get a cleaner shot on Goddard
Dude if you watch the replay, dudes skull warps from the hit. The initial hit, he was out cold going down
He looked like he was trying to get passed the ref to get the opponent
I was at ufc 262 when there was a delayed knockout. Guy got hit but didn't drop till seconds later it was weird
Do a Video on Muhammed Mokaevs Knee Bar!!! His knee literally hyperextended!!
Pray
This could be really dangerous for the person being attacked, especially if they are untrained or of significantly lesser skill. Repercussions could be quite severe.
Are you going to cover Jose Altuve’s hand injury?
Is this the same as when I get blackout drunk then get shocked and have "how did i end up here" moment ?
There was a clip going around a while back where a fighter got knocked out, started trying to double leg the ref against the fence and the ref just chokes him out with a guillotine and sends him right back to the shadow realm
Lol that ref is a pos.
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I agree I don’t think it was late
This is likely a brain seizure where the brain turns on and off thinking he is still in the fight
Bro when I seen this live I felt like he should’ve stopped it EXACTLY when he did. He got knocked out and the last 2 elbows ripped his face apart.
Reminds me of the time Tommy Morrisson started shadow boxing after hetting knocked out, thinking that the fight hadn’t started yet . Scary.
Hey can you do Gavin Lux please 🙏🏽