Tarot History: Theories of Origin

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  • Video 9 of the Learn Tarot with Holistic Tarot video lecture series. Videos in this lecture series are Closed Captioned for our Deaf, H/H, ESL, and EAL colleagues. Note: Made this video in chunks while really exhausted and overworked, and I apologize if it shows a bit in my voice.
    The PowerPoint slides content from this video are an excerpt from an all-day course I taught at the California Institute of Integral Studies, “Accessing the Practical and Profound Wisdom of Tarot.”
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    • Learn Tarot with Holis...
    I’m making an effort to complete the Holistic Tarot companion course video series. Here’s the ninth installment, on tarot history, or more specifically, theories of origin.
    While there’s 33 pages of citations for the content of this video, I hope it’s clear that we’re still talking about speculation- hence theories of origins. I started this focused level of research back in 2014, even before Holistic Tarot was published, for a work of historical fantasy. Yes, a novel. That novel I’ve been struggling with, which I hope I can dedicate 2022 to. [See: • Finished My Novel: Nov... ]
    I also thought it’d be fun to flash SKT Revelation cards across the screen at the exact moments certain points were being made. =)
    SPIRIT KEEPER’S TAROT: REVELATION EDITION
    Order Your Copy: benebellwen.com/skt/pre-order/
    About SKT Revelation: benebellwen.com/skt/introduct...
    Video Trailer Showing the Majors: • Spirit Keeper's Tarot:...
    Video Trailer Showing the Minors: • Spirit Keeper's Tarot:...
    REFERENCED IN VIDEO
    “An ‘Ancient’ Mode of Tarot Reading (Mathers, 1888),” from the Sightsee the Tarot series: • "Ancient" Mode of Taro...
    Western Witchcraft I: The Fundamentals and Doctrinal Basis (Eliphas Levi): benebellwen.com/2020/01/05/we...
    CARDS PICTURED: “Pam B” Rider-Waite-Smith; Arcanes du Tarot Kabbalistique (1889); Cary-Yale Visconti Tarocchi (15th c.); Egyptian Tarot (1980) by Naipes La Banca; Jean Noblet Tarot (1650); La Grand Etteilla (1783); Le Grand Tarot Belline (1881); Minchiate Tarot (1850); Sola Busca Tarot (1491); Soprafino Tarot (1835); Tarocchi di Mantegna (1465); Tarot of Paul Christian (1863); Tarot of Tourcaty (1734); The Etteilla Tarot via Orsini (1850); Thoth Tarot deck (1944); Visconti-Sforza Tarot (15th c. Italy); Mamluk playing cards (1500s) [cards.old.no/1500-mamluk]

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  • @mastermichaeldunchok
    @mastermichaeldunchok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really appreciate your thoroughness, your rational approach, your attention to detail. Lol Gods, how many times have I said "Court de Gebelin" without it occurring to me that this is a French name and should have a French pronunciation. But you noticed that detail and many others and crossed all those "t"s and dotted all those "I"s. You're the real deal, Benebell. You're a real magus, cross cultural and eclectic as a magus should be, yet without being shallow and dilettante; a true daughter of both Hermes and Lao Zi. I salute you!

  • @kozymoon664
    @kozymoon664 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you! I've been looking for this information.
    The fact that you have shared this so freely with all your research based information is beyond me. Thank you so much.
    You're amazing!

  • @joeroubidoux2783
    @joeroubidoux2783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just when you thought it can’t get any better it gets even better. What a profound work. I can’t believe I am actually going to have one these decks. I hope your not tired of hearing thank you bcs. Thank You!

  • @fukakobue
    @fukakobue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how you blended two divinatory systems, combining the i-ching with the tarot.
    EXCELLENT WORK.
    Much love and appreciation.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @MysticSunchild
    @MysticSunchild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was fantastic! Thank you for bringing tarot history alive in an audiovisual way and for sharing your research 💕🌻💕

    • @BenebellWen
      @BenebellWen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jamesburwash5635
    @jamesburwash5635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Allot of research! Your narrative is very good like a story teller! Excellent ,cheers from Vancouver island Canada 🇨🇦

  • @AmethystAscension
    @AmethystAscension 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video. I loved watching your studies come to life. I find this topic fascinating for sure.

  • @vinegar8
    @vinegar8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re full on! Thanks for the insights.

  • @leischutte9179
    @leischutte9179 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was always taught that the Knights Templar used tarot and that is the origin of the modern playing deck of cards. But I’m willing to learn things even though I was originally taught differently. The truth is none of us really know but have to rely on what we learn about history from books and others

  • @franblack2227
    @franblack2227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is amazing!! Thanks

  • @dawndonivan3089
    @dawndonivan3089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My deck will be here today...Yay! Great video 🃏🀄🎴

  • @dawn6523
    @dawn6523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Benebell, u rock :) thank u!

  • @leleblonde7224
    @leleblonde7224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job!!! Congratulations!! You might write a book about this!!! Gracias ☺️

  • @joeroubidoux2783
    @joeroubidoux2783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation

  • @manie54321
    @manie54321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🌷Thank You🌻
    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @NigelJackson
    @NigelJackson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exceptionally interesting survey. Certainly as the historian Stewart Culin opined, the proto-Tarots/playing-cards are rooted historically in East Asia: specifically Korean Nyout cards deriving from ancient arrow-divination practises and from thence Chinese woodblock-printed money-suited decks which metamorphosed in its westward travels along the Silk Road into the Muluk-wa-Nawwab cards of the Mamluk era with their 4 suits and we can see the Arabic root of the word Tarot - 'Taraha' - 'to discard', referring to trumping other cards in gaming. These East Asian and Islamic transmissions of playing-cards/proto-Tarots are very important. The Major Trumps seem to have been elaborated in medieval Europe as a kind of '5th Suit', 'superior to all' (Atutti) in gaming.

  • @kozymoon664
    @kozymoon664 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you want to do more indepth videos on the Chinese Playing cards mentioned? Are there connections with the suits and the 5 phases? Were they also used in Divination?

  • @lorenawolfman9333
    @lorenawolfman9333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever considered publishing a recreation of the Mamluck deck?

  • @raleighwooddriftwoodmanor
    @raleighwooddriftwoodmanor หลายเดือนก่อน

    During the most recent Solar Eclipse 2024 over the central part of the USA, I had occasion to read and re-read and study at length the Gospel of Matthew Ch 12, I would recommend it. The "theme" of the Eclipse was unanimously agreed to be baptism. This chapter says a number of extremely interesting things about baptism, exorcism, and the Virgin Mary. And more. For example: many here will not see death before they enter the kingdom of Heaven. To me, this is a direct reference to the Virgin Mary, already stated to be present ~ according to tradition she ascended into heaven an immortal, and did not die. There are not many "ascended immortals" in the bible ~ another example is the prophet Elijah, who was taken away in a "fiery chariot", or the apocryphal history of Enoch, who was one of the grandsons of Adam.
    Q: if you had to go through the scriptures with a fine tooth comb, as a thought exercise, or possibly a q of doctrine? and find references such as this one in Matt Ch 12, to the virgin mary, would it be helpful to take the next step and pose a situational inquiry about the value of examining that inquiry in the light of the High Priestess? What about the "doctrine of the immaculate conception" in that light? There have been a few of these sort of conception events that were "miraculous" ~ Another example is the impregnation of Abraham's wife, Sarah. An angel visited Abraham and told him she would give birth, to which she laughed because she was already 100+ years old or something. The angel said "why does Sarah laugh? I will return in a year, you will have a son". Then a year later, Isaac was born whose name means "laughter".
    The example of the kinswoman of Jesus Christ also, whose husband was visited by an angel, to fortell the birth of John the Baptist, his kinsman. The angel struck the man he was speaking dumb, as "proof" of divine intervention. Those are not "immaculate" births, but they are considered divine intervention in the scriptures and by the church. There are other examples, the mother of the prophet Samuel, wrote a lengthy hymn praising God, for the divine intervention of her conception. She dedicated the child to the church, he became a very important prophet.
    The Highpriestess is a "gateway" to the divine ~ but its more than this ~ I think there are certainly echoes of alot of the original contentions from the Garden of Eden, in these events. Matt Ch 12 specifically goes into discussion of the sire or fathering, of Jesus Christ ~ its not whether he is possessed that is the question, its who is physical sire really is? Is it the devil? What a question to ask ~ but why? And : the answer has to do with the Garden of Eden, the fall of the angels, etc. In that context, you can build an argument that the Highpriestess is a gateway also, to esoteric mysteries ~ such as hidden histories of the occult. Or namely, the motivation of various forces that may not be directly divine.
    There is some part of me in considering this question, that wonders whether as a corollary, you could not also make the argument that God and the divine, are defending "women's rights"? In pondering the Virgin Mary, I have certainly found a number of mysteries ............

  • @DerekJohnThomas
    @DerekJohnThomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was very good. Thank you. I think, though, that Korea would disagree with you about them having been ruled by the Mongols. They were certainly invaded, but the invasions were repelled. From my memory, Korea sent homage gifts to the Mongolian rulers of China, but retained independent rule.

    • @BenebellWen
      @BenebellWen  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol 🤣 fair enough 🙏

  • @lessonlearner9788
    @lessonlearner9788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, tons of food for thought here! I've honestly never heard of the possible connections between the Cathars spiritual principles and the Tarot. I have found them to be so intriguing, that a sect of Gnostic christians were essentially a repository of eastern beliefs and practices.

    • @BenebellWen
      @BenebellWen  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha If I am being fair to history and a little on the skeptical side, I would say it's still a stretch of a myth. 😅 But certainly exciting to think about!

    • @NigelJackson
      @NigelJackson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir Steven Runciman in his book 'The Medieval Manichee' proposed this Cathar theory re. Tarot origins. Somewhat specious...

  • @tsarion6101
    @tsarion6101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video.

  • @sanguinetitarot7780
    @sanguinetitarot7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always ,this is a speculative and controversial matter.
    The origin of the playing card deck is definitely China ,but what is the origin of the Tarot deck ? I understand that those who say Egypt really mean the Hellenistic or Greco-Egyptian era and the work that was done there in the school of Alexandria.
    Even more ,it must be said, that Egypt was not the only communication point of Europe with the Far-East ,as it is known that the Romans exchanged glass product with paper ,with the Chinese and there were greek communities well established in the greater India reagion.
    And yes, Greeks and Romans had very well established commercial and cultural relations with Egypt and the middle east for millenia before the arrival of the mamluks.
    As for the true pronunciation of the name Thoth ,it is said that it is DAAT or more accurately DHAAT•H in ancient Egyptian.

    • @sanguinetitarot7780
      @sanguinetitarot7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would propose that the origin of the Tarot deck (in particular) is definitely north Italy ,while the origin of the ideas embedded in a Tarot deck ,would be East Mediterranea and Europe.
      Thank you.

  • @angelus333
    @angelus333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Etteilla key words aren't original ones. You'v used Grimaud version.

  • @garygillam8226
    @garygillam8226 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please tell me which deck has The Outlaw card as the Hanged Man ?

    • @BenebellWen
      @BenebellWen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the deck I created and illustrated, the Spirit Keeper's Tarot. ❤️

    • @garygillam8226
      @garygillam8226 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BenebellWen I think this is amazing … one Of the most original interpretations I’ve seen for a long time. Is it commercially available?

  • @DJSTOEK
    @DJSTOEK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🖤

  • @devadattalxiv1549
    @devadattalxiv1549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Benebell Wen I found out He Xian Gu is REAL and she is living in China! I sent her 3,000 and she tells me I have to practice kindness by giving her my house and she is going to take me to a special place in China to turn me into Immortal Buddha!
    Thank you so much for guiding me in Taoism, now I have found my UNSUI! ⛈️

    • @indigochild2.098
      @indigochild2.098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you shudnt have to give anyone your house wt da hell

  • @crazypikachucrcr7529
    @crazypikachucrcr7529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mongols warrior's of China to fight what was coming from the West, nomads fighting like Special Forces! ☯️🇨🇳🀄🐉🎆☮️🦇