I haven’t used the xline brushes so don’t know the setup but with the Gardiner brushes I just take the brush stock of the back of the brush and screw on the Ova8 one
Thanks for the time and money you spent information you gave. I was leaning towards an SLX, but now I’m looking into ova8s, a brand I honestly wrote off for no reason
I’ve found over many years the circular poles have given me back problems. The ova 8 for me has changed that. I don’t grip it as hard and find it easier to control.
Best you tuber for wfp information. Thanks for spending all your money on poles to provide all the info to save us money. Just ordered an ova8 looking forward to it. Always had gardiner poles but fed up of the spin.
Ivd been window cleaning 40 years 25 with pole system I’ve come to the same conclusion as you I only use SLX and over 8 40ft I do prefer my SLX with the 4 fan jet brush! … I need a new daily pole I’m thinking SLX I just checked when i bought my last 35ft It was 2019 so it’s more than paid for itself. I did replace end 2 sections 18 months ago . I don’t normally look at window cleaning reviews as I feel I forget more about it than most window cleaners know 🤣 but I totally respect your opinion and can tell you know what you’re talking about. Enjoyed the video 👍👏👏👏
Very informative, Dave. I do love my Gardiner but it's pretty hard to get an OVA-8 here in Australia. The distributors never have any in stock. And the cost of getting it sent from the UK or USA is quite high.🤷♂️
Dave any chance you could make a video about injuries window cleaners have from window cleaning (back, shoulder, hip). I hope others would give some tips how to avoid them and what helps them to stay fit.
Used an Gardiner 18clx and a 35slx for years. But recently bought a Phantom 25 & 40 hi mod. The clamps are a game changer. And they’re so light. Bloody pricey though!! Use a Gardiner 35cms extreme dupont brush with fan jets a swivel head and the pole uses a univalve and tubeless kit. Taken a few years and a lot of trial and error but finally think I’m there!!
I’ve been using gardiners poles since I started in 2016. But looking for alternative due to their poles spinning. Appreciate your impartial review Dave. 👌
Thanks, Mark If you haven't already seen it take a look at our pole reviews on The Cleaning Guide thecleaningguide.co.uk/category/window-cleaning/poles/
Thats a hard one as there are so many variables to consider such as your budget, If you are going to have a van or work from your car, the area you are working in etc. I think thats a subject for a whole video there.
@@squeakycleandave1 Hi Dave have a new Transit, will be working in Gatwick with very few townhouses, but loads of conservatories not brassik, so have a medium budget have a new 40psi shurflo pump, so just need a controller tank pole and brushes, Will get the sprayer and chemical that's £600 or so to do conservatories.
I'm just starting out after being laid off and I'm using my redundancy, I've already got arthritis but it's not debilitating or anything but it's something I need to take into account. I'm thinking rather than buy twice, just buy the ova8 if it actually does make that much of a difference. Thoughts please mate? Much appreciated, video is very informative 👌
So the poles shall be light and the shape needs to be ergonomic for comfort and clamps It shall swiwel on the end Stremline ova 8 seem to be best with a gardner brush
All you need to do is change the brush socket This one is fixed www.streamline.systems/product/ova-8-waterfed-pole-brush-socket-90-degree/ And this one swivels www.streamline.systems/product/streamline-ova8-brush-swivel-socket-90-degree/
Great vid Dave I’m moving over to Wfp in about 4 weeks, systems ordered. I brought the slx 25 around a year ago for fsg cleans & ive actually noticed my hands aching at times. Just hoping it’s because I’m not used to using the pole for long periods. It’s my first pole so I know nothing about them but i do like it?
Hi David question I'm thinking of getting a new pole a 22ft that can be a 18ft by removing a section slx you can do this with can you add or remove sections to the ova 8 . I'm still using the old fibreglass poles so heavy
Whichever pole you get as long as it’s full carbon you will see a massive difference and you will wish you had done it sooner. You can remove the bottom section but it’s recommended that you don’t. Only the bottom section is insulated in case you touch a power cable and and canon fibre is highly conducive whereas fibreglass doesn’t conduct electric at all
@@squeakycleandave1 I will order one now. I´m currently spending my time in the basket to check what else I can get. Thanks for you Videos. I would really appreciate some german speaking guys who are also next level like you !
@@cmkservices the problem is that a uni valve is wider then the 1st section so they have made the 1st section is much shorter then the rest so that the uni valve can sit below it. Someone did come up with a 3D printed one but it just didn’t work well and you had to sand the sides off the univalve to get it to fit in the pole.
Good video Dave,we supply poles in South Africa from the Chinese company that supplies Streamline. We are still selling the round poles in Hybrid, 30T carbon and 30/40 carbon with V3 clamps. The oval we have been offered but unfortunately there quite a bit more expensive especially when buying in Rands. We have a shipment due in October and going to get then to include one to try. Regards Colin
My SLX broke last week. Can't afford a new one at the moment so I'm using my CLX, but once I'm able I'll be ordering the standard carbon Ova 8 I think. I too suffer with tennis elbow and achy hands and I also put it down to using a swivel. You definitely grip harder and over compensate by holding the pole at awkward angles, rather than just trying moving yourself a little bit and cleaning as normal.
Try Gardinerpoles extreme brush it makes quite a difference to arm strain.If you can afford it try the extreme pole.I use the 18 daily,highly recommend it.
@@redpillnibbler4423 hello. Thank you. I’ve since been able to buy a new SLX (Xtreme pole is out of my price range) but you are 100% right the Xtreme brushes help a lot with strain. My favourite is the Xtreme flocked sill brush (I only wish they did a standard flocked Xtreme as well). Thanks again for taking the time to reply 👍
I’ve said it before, not being able to change to tubeless stops it from being best pole out there. As much as I want an ova8 pole I can’t go back to messy hose everywhere in van. As we’ve have spoke about before, there are a lot of small things that can save time in your day that mount up by end of day? Tubeless is one
@@westwoodcleaningservices3741 totally agree it needs a tubeless kit but I don’t know how long I would have been able to carry with the pains in my hands using round poles
Thanks Dave, spurred me on to keep saving for a ova8! I've got an ancient slx35 in the van, still use it on the taller stuff. I've also got a ionics hydra 24, really light pole, it does take a gardiner gooseneck and I've got xline brushes on it! Xline 35cm dupont with rinse bar, heavier than gardiners but a much better brush! Just got a xline 26cm flocked with brass fan jets, awesome rinse! Keep up the good work buddy! 💪🏻
Gardinerpoles extreme pole.Highly recommend it.
Great video Dave! Can I just ask which jets you would use when cleaning gutters and downpipes?x
When I’m doing a gutter and fascia clean I use a Gardiner 26cm Universal sill brush with 2 x 2mm pencil jets
@@squeakycleandave1 thank you!!
Hi dave great video again. Quick question I'm thinking of about slx 22 can the section come apart to turn it in to 18ft
As far as I know it can do but it’s not insulated against electric if you touch a live cable so it’s recommended that you don’t
@@squeakycleandave1 thanks Dave
Dave if I got an ova8 would it be possible to put my xline flocked cill brush on it easy enough ?
I haven’t used the xline brushes so don’t know the setup but with the Gardiner brushes I just take the brush stock of the back of the brush and screw on the Ova8 one
@@squeakycleandave1 more than likely be able to do that with the xline brush then .cheers Dave
@@tgun4928 yes you can mate. I have one on mine
Unnecessary annoying music
Thanks for the time and money you spent information you gave. I was leaning towards an SLX, but now I’m looking into ova8s, a brand I honestly wrote off for no reason
@@ethanrobinson5763 I’m still using Ova8 as my everyday pole and can’t imagine ever changing
I’ve found over many years the circular poles have given me back problems. The ova 8 for me has changed that. I don’t grip it as hard and find it easier to control.
Best you tuber for wfp information. Thanks for spending all your money on poles to provide all the info to save us money. Just ordered an ova8 looking forward to it. Always had gardiner poles but fed up of the spin.
Good choice 👍
how do you like it?
I have the xline nano and it just doesn’t last clamps are not grate to be fair and it’s tad heavy but very stiff
Ivd been window cleaning 40 years 25 with pole system I’ve come to the same conclusion as you I only use SLX and over 8 40ft I do prefer my SLX with the 4 fan jet brush! … I need a new daily pole I’m thinking SLX I just checked when i bought my last 35ft It was 2019 so it’s more than paid for itself. I did replace end 2 sections 18 months ago . I don’t normally look at window cleaning reviews as I feel I forget more about it than most window cleaners know 🤣 but I totally respect your opinion and can tell you know what you’re talking about. Enjoyed the video 👍👏👏👏
Thanks bud 👍
Very informative, Dave. I do love my Gardiner but it's pretty hard to get an OVA-8 here in Australia. The distributors never have any in stock. And the cost of getting it sent from the UK or USA is quite high.🤷♂️
That’s a real shame Duncan as they are fantastic poles.
Dave any chance you could make a video about injuries window cleaners have from window cleaning (back, shoulder, hip). I hope others would give some tips how to avoid them and what helps them to stay fit.
I have thought of that Damian. Trying to team up with a buddy who does sports massages but he doesn’t seem to want to go for it. 👍
Used an Gardiner 18clx and a 35slx for years. But recently bought a Phantom 25 & 40 hi mod. The clamps are a game changer. And they’re so light. Bloody pricey though!! Use a Gardiner 35cms extreme dupont brush with fan jets a swivel head and the pole uses a univalve and tubeless kit. Taken a few years and a lot of trial and error but finally think I’m there!!
It’s fantastic when you find a setup that suits you 👍
Couldn’t agree more, ova 8 22ft hi mod & gardiner brush combo is great.
Wouldn’t be without them 👍
I’ve been using gardiners poles since I started in 2016.
But looking for alternative due to their poles spinning.
Appreciate your impartial review Dave. 👌
Thanks, Mark
If you haven't already seen it take a look at our pole reviews on The Cleaning Guide
thecleaningguide.co.uk/category/window-cleaning/poles/
@@squeakycleandave1 Thank you !!!
Nice one Dave, I’m the same my slx drives me up the wall as it spins all the time, next buy is defo the ovs8
It’s never spun once since I’ve had it 😉👍
Hi, Dave if you were starting a window cleaning business today, what startup equipment would you buy?
Thats a hard one as there are so many variables to consider such as your budget, If you are going to have a van or work from your car, the area you are working in etc.
I think thats a subject for a whole video there.
@@squeakycleandave1 Hi Dave have a new Transit, will be working in Gatwick with very few townhouses, but loads of conservatories not brassik, so have a medium budget have a new 40psi shurflo pump, so just need a controller tank pole and brushes, Will get the sprayer and chemical that's £600 or so to do conservatories.
I'm just starting out after being laid off and I'm using my redundancy, I've already got arthritis but it's not debilitating or anything but it's something I need to take into account. I'm thinking rather than buy twice, just buy the ova8 if it actually does make that much of a difference. Thoughts please mate? Much appreciated, video is very informative 👌
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So the poles shall be light and the shape needs to be ergonomic for comfort and clamps
It shall swiwel on the end
Stremline ova 8 seem to be best with a gardner brush
I'm still using the Ova8 pole but I'm now using it with a Xline DuPont brush with a rinse bar 👍
I’ve used a lot too, for me the Ova8 is the best followed by the Xline Nano, Boss by far the worst pole I’ve used.
Thanks Julian. I’ve never tried the nano but have heard good things about it
hii iam in the market for new pole - i have ova 8 - what connections do you use to fit your gardnnier brushes on -
All you need to do is change the brush socket
This one is fixed
www.streamline.systems/product/ova-8-waterfed-pole-brush-socket-90-degree/
And this one swivels
www.streamline.systems/product/streamline-ova8-brush-swivel-socket-90-degree/
Great vid Dave I’m moving over to Wfp in about 4 weeks, systems ordered. I brought the slx 25 around a year ago for fsg cleans & ive actually noticed my hands aching at times. Just hoping it’s because I’m not used to using the pole for long periods. It’s my first pole so I know nothing about them but i do like it?
The SLX are fantastic poles 👍
I yeah I have just bought a 30 Foot They are great
Yeah love my ova 8 17 footer. It's 2 years old now. Whats the difference with a hi mod pole?
It’s lighter and stiffer
And more expensive
Hi David question I'm thinking of getting a new pole a 22ft that can be a 18ft by removing a section slx you can do this with can you add or remove sections to the ova 8 . I'm still using the old fibreglass poles so heavy
Whichever pole you get as long as it’s full carbon you will see a massive difference and you will wish you had done it sooner.
You can remove the bottom section but it’s recommended that you don’t. Only the bottom section is insulated in case you touch a power cable and and canon fibre is highly conducive whereas fibreglass doesn’t conduct electric at all
@@squeakycleandave1 thanks again 🙏
Excellent vid Dave. Have you ever tried about out the Boss Poles? Seem like the new kid on the block but been hearing alot about them lately
They look very good and I had a good feel of one at the show but think I would struggle to go back to round poles
I am also looking for a another new pole cause I get sick of the pole/hose/brush spinning and also the hard to push clamps from my unger pole.
I love the Ova8 poles
@@squeakycleandave1 I will order one now. I´m currently spending my time in the basket to check what else I can get. Thanks for you Videos. I would really appreciate some german speaking guys who are also next level like you !
Thanks again Dave. I've been using my clx for a good few years now and was going to up grade it. Thanks for advice .👍👍
Glad you found it useful 👍
And thank you squickly clean for doing all this demonstration for us it was brilliant
Glad you find them useful 👍
I have a 22 hi mod but would love a tubeless kit. Has exceed innovation done one for it yet? James
Hi James
Unfortunately no they haven't. I keep asking but still nothing.
Why don't you do a DIY tubeless
@@cmkservices the problem is that a uni valve is wider then the 1st section so they have made the 1st section is much shorter then the rest so that the uni valve can sit below it. Someone did come up with a 3D printed one but it just didn’t work well and you had to sand the sides off the univalve to get it to fit in the pole.
Great video Dave. In your opinion, what's the best brush for facia and soffit cleaning?? Thanks a million.
I like the Gardiner 26cm sill universal stiff
@@squeakycleandave1 thanks again
Good video Dave,we supply poles in South Africa from the Chinese company that supplies Streamline. We are still selling the round poles in Hybrid, 30T carbon and 30/40 carbon with V3 clamps. The oval we have been offered but unfortunately there quite a bit more expensive especially when buying in Rands. We have a shipment due in October and going to get then to include one to try.
Regards Colin
Hi Colin. Thanks Fowler you comment. Someone else’s commented that they can’t get them in Australia either. Hope you manage to sort it out 👍
Hi Anne. Which Chinese company are you sourcing from i can get one or two to Kenya?
Hi, what's your company name? I'd be interested in ordering some.
Totally agree Dave. I love my ova 8 best pole on the marked in my eyes!!
Thanks Bud 👍
Nice one Dave, I will defo be getting the hi mod soon.
👍🏻
It’s a great pole Gordon 👍
Great Video Dave and as always informative and Feedback
Thanks Ian 👍
What brush head is on the ova 8 with you mate?
I always use a Gardiner Ultimate 35cm with 4 jets👍
nice video man thanks for taking the time
Glad you liked it
Thanks a lot l, that was very helpful
Nice one Dave. I love the phantom, those clamps are the clincher. Have you tried the unger poles?
Not yet. Hopefully there will be one at the show to have a look at 👍
My SLX broke last week. Can't afford a new one at the moment so I'm using my CLX, but once I'm able I'll be ordering the standard carbon Ova 8 I think. I too suffer with tennis elbow and achy hands and I also put it down to using a swivel. You definitely grip harder and over compensate by holding the pole at awkward angles, rather than just trying moving yourself a little bit and cleaning as normal.
Try Gardinerpoles extreme brush it makes quite a difference to arm strain.If you can afford it try the extreme pole.I use the 18 daily,highly recommend it.
@@redpillnibbler4423 hello. Thank you. I’ve since been able to buy a new SLX (Xtreme pole is out of my price range) but you are 100% right the Xtreme brushes help a lot with strain. My favourite is the Xtreme flocked sill brush (I only wish they did a standard flocked Xtreme as well). Thanks again for taking the time to reply 👍
@@kevdubbleyou
You’re welcome.
Ova 8 should have tubeless system too
That would be amazing 👍
I’ve said it before, not being able to change to tubeless stops it from being best pole out there. As much as I want an ova8 pole I can’t go back to messy hose everywhere in van. As we’ve have spoke about before, there are a lot of small things that can save time in your day that mount up by end of day? Tubeless is one
@@westwoodcleaningservices3741 totally agree it needs a tubeless kit but I don’t know how long I would have been able to carry with the pains in my hands using round poles
@@westwoodcleaningservices3741 why don't you do a temporary DIY tubeless
@@cmkservices yeah has crossed my mind. Haven’t seen anyone on TH-cam do it though?
Thanks Dave, spurred me on to keep saving for a ova8! I've got an ancient slx35 in the van, still use it on the taller stuff. I've also got a ionics hydra 24, really light pole, it does take a gardiner gooseneck and I've got xline brushes on it! Xline 35cm dupont with rinse bar, heavier than gardiners but a much better brush! Just got a xline 26cm flocked with brass fan jets, awesome rinse!
Keep up the good work buddy! 💪🏻
Hi Dan
I’ve never really tried the xline gear but have heard good things about them especially the brushes. Might have to give them a go sometime 👍
For me no.1 is gardiner extreme 22ft. 🙂
Xtreme should be called the snapper 😂
I know that the Xtremes are good but I couldn’t go back to a round pole 👍