FANLESS 7W Homelab Fantasy Mini PC

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  • We take a look at an awesome fanless project PC from CWWK. At around $200 for the barebones, it has a lot of expansion options.
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:22 External Hardware Overview
    03:54 The PCIe Slot
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    09:40 SATA Ports for SSDs and HDDs
    11:13 Performance
    14:19 Power Consumption
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  • @JumpeFurby
    @JumpeFurby 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    I'm going to be honest here. 80% of the reason i'm still subbed is your energy.
    Nothing negative about the content. But i just really always love your vibe!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Ha! Thanks! Hope to hit 400K subs tomorrow!!!

    • @JumpeFurby
      @JumpeFurby 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo you should have been way further a long time ago. You deserve it!

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Congratulations!

    • @tanithrosenbaum
      @tanithrosenbaum 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Woot! Keeping my fingers crossed for you. And I agree with JumpeFurby, your personal energy is definitely one kind of Energy we shouldn't conserve and instead use plenty of :)

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Looks like you did it, GG!

  • @stuartcastle2814
    @stuartcastle2814 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm loving devices like this. I've set up a homelab myself. I don't have room for the rack mounted servers most homelab youtubers seem to have, but I don't need one. I don't have a network of CCTV cameras, a fully automated home or a need to edit terabytes of video on multiple workstations. I don't have multiple workstations to edit the video on, even if I needed to edit video. As for my routing needs, they are more than adequately fulfilled by my Orbi system,
    My needs for a "homelab" are essentially a host for loads of VMs I use to experiment with different things, like Active Directory domain management.
    That's not to say I wouldn't like a rackmounted server, with hundreds of gigs of RAM and hundreds of terabytes of storage. I would love that, but don't have the money to buy one or, or space to host one. Even if I did, my house is not air conditioned, so heat would be an issue, in the summer at least, it would be quite nice in winter.
    So, a couple of weeks ago, I bought myself a NUC style PC. It came with a fast 1TB nvme SSD, and 32 gig RAM, as well as space for a 2.5inch SATA drive.
    Thankfully, last year, I upgraded. my main PC with a new 2TB NVME SSD, replacing the 1TB SATA SSD I had been using, so the 1TB SATA SSD is now in the NUC. I've installed Proxmox on the NUC, with the NVME being used for a boot drive, and main storage, and the SATA SSD being used for periodic backups.
    Yes, I know that these should be hosted elsewhere (preferably off site), and I am looking into that, but, TBH, the machine isn't hosting anything really important, and the backups are there in case I mess something up while working on a VM, and I haven't updated the snapshots..
    I have a Trigkey S5 Ryzen 7 5800H. In fact, the only real fault I can find is there isn't an option to enable Wake On LAN in the firmware.

  • @DBTechYT
    @DBTechYT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This looks really cool!! I love the aesthetic of it!

  • @rmcdudmk212
    @rmcdudmk212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    This looks like a really cool system. Im glad more companies are producing boards like this and Zemablade. 👍

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      *ZimaBlade

    • @rmcdudmk212
      @rmcdudmk212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@JeffGeerling autocorrect wins this round 😂

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This is another performance/ feature class versus the ZimaBlade.

    • @rmcdudmk212
      @rmcdudmk212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo but it's a similar idea for sure.

  • @dtaggartofRTD
    @dtaggartofRTD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This looks like a marvelous edge node for slightly higher performance applications. This doesn't look like the sort of system that you fuss with all that often. You build it and put it in the larger unit it'll be part of and that protects and secures all the bits that hang off in a desk configuration. I like it.
    Looks like the rubber foot assembly can be removed and replaced with something custom. This is a nice little machine.

  • @Parasclepius
    @Parasclepius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This thing is made to be mounted in a cyberdeck. Its not a case, its a mounting frame/heatsink.

  • @qw-
    @qw- 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the review! I found another interesting cwwk machine with a ryzen 5600u. Looks perfect for my mini home server

  • @mixedd69
    @mixedd69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Was eyeing this little thing for a month now. Seems like nice little low power box for DIY NAS build or Pmox cluster node if you need PCIe capability. Plan on ordering one, pairing with LSI HBA and prinring a case for it

  • @JamieStuff
    @JamieStuff 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    A short PCIe v3 x4 riser cable (cheap; they were used by miners) and a 3D printed bracket that bolts to the fan mounts, and you're good to go.

    • @witalijlewandowski2384
      @witalijlewandowski2384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My first thought too, fan mounts or something 3D printed to mount card under feet to have heat sink on top of all extensions burger, not in the middle of hamburger tower :). This form-factor looks great, only question to CWWK is why it costs ~18% more than their 5NIC mini pc. Like we have minus 3NICs, more compact heat sink have to cost less too and other things are almost the same. Maybe it's form-factor overprice, because it's competitor is ZimaBoard silly CPU and 1Gb NICs. So CWWK do great thing and I wish it were cheaper (at least 15%) but still worth it because only alternatives are other CWWK and choice depends on do we need PCIex4 or more NICs instead.

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And after a year, im still watching every one of these videos AND wearing my Red jacket too !! Good work guys !

  • @capability-snob
    @capability-snob 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hanging out for a form factor which is "ITX with north-mounted PCIe slot edge connector" for the return of the pizza box.

  • @witalijlewandowski2384
    @witalijlewandowski2384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And few days after overview price jumps +50%. Great board but 300$ is over the edge of sanity...
    Thanks for video btw, quality overviews as always and positive attitude.

  • @zyghom
    @zyghom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am seriously "done" with my home lab equipment (buhahaha - till when?) but watching your channel is like subscribing to the best NEWS around these topics ;-)
    Thank you for your energetic, happy and deep dive work! All the best in 2024!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for the kind words! Best wishes for you in 2024 as well.

    • @MattHudsonAtx
      @MattHudsonAtx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want to to hear more about why you're so done with home lab stuff

    • @zyghom
      @zyghom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MattHudsonAtx done means: I have invested already in the hardware. Time for this hardware to work now for some time before I change to something new/else ;-)

  • @jeremybarber2837
    @jeremybarber2837 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This! This right here is so cool! I’ve been lurking around the ZimaBoard & this thrashes it on many levels. I was thinking that you could probably 3D print a carrier/hot-swap tray to screw onto the top of the chassis for the dual 2.5” drives. Super fun!

  • @knoebimac
    @knoebimac 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your opening with: "THIS ...".

  • @maxhammick948
    @maxhammick948 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    7015 fans are an odd choice, given that this system has the width for it I'd prefer to see a single mounting point for an 80mm fan. Those are a lot easier to find in PC parts stores, and the 15W N305 isn't going to be *that* hard to cool - a single fan would have plenty of airflow

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Agreed. As is not using standard 4-pin PWM fan headers.

    • @Phil-D83
      @Phil-D83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      China tech. They have thier own logic. I see it in the 3d printers,etc

    • @CaidicusProductions
      @CaidicusProductions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Phil-D83 It largely has to do with the far more readily available parts in China. Taobao, China's Amazon, has a plethora of super easy to find parts that are far more niche in America. :P So, these devices that are just as popular in China, are designed based on parts that are easily found on Taobao.
      I wouldn't be surprised if this manufacturer could easily be talked into including a fan with the purchase as it'd be pennies for them (more like a couple of dollars, but still ridiculously cheap) to include it in the package.

  • @namastripurasundari
    @namastripurasundari 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I honestly can't imagine how this would be more useful than a small PC.

  • @MattHudsonAtx
    @MattHudsonAtx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I already like the chassis pre-fit for added cooling

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It would have been nice if it had standard PWM 4-pin power headers for the fans

    • @MattHudsonAtx
      @MattHudsonAtx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo dang, what does it use instead?

  • @churinvideo
    @churinvideo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is the perfect setup for testing components. It would be great for a shop that deals with used hardware or just an enthusiast that swaps out hard drives and PCI-E devices regularly. I can't imagine wanting to use something like this for any kind of a permanent setup. It would simply defeat the purpose of having everything so easily accessible.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

    • @oldphart-zc3jz
      @oldphart-zc3jz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The perfect setup for testing used hardware is FREE and DISPOSABLE so when bad hardware murders it one can grab another from the donor pile. For enthusiasts it's ideal though as it can be cased in any enclosure one desires (or 3D prints).

  • @dbjungle
    @dbjungle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is very cool. The SATA solution is super nice. I would prefer another m.2 instead of the PCI slot. It's 4 lanes and things have to hang off the computer anyway. Either way it's really nice to see companies making devices to fill the needs of consumers.

  • @adrianTNT
    @adrianTNT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I could use something like that for "off site" backup, put it in a closet or somewhere in another office and backup everything on it.
    But it was nicer if it had power by USB-C, would not heve to carry it's own brick with you when moving it (since is small and mobile / movable).

  • @RexRecon
    @RexRecon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these fanless systems 🥰

  • @confusedbeard69
    @confusedbeard69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As it has dual 2.5 Gbit it would be a pretty neat low powered pfsense/opnsense box.

    • @mchamster7
      @mchamster7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      with the PCIe port, you could also drop an additional 4x 2.5G i226v card on there and get six routed 2.5GB interfaces, which could be very useful for some labs.

  • @Eihrister
    @Eihrister 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a Mini-NAS board of CwwK and it's really super great... really want to give this one a go :)

  • @ps7539
    @ps7539 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my home server is an old hp pc, 3rd gen i5. its a proper 24/7 server running esxi and 4 vms. it was very cheap, it can handle anything, its expandable. power draw around 35 watts.

  • @georgelza
    @georgelza 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ... that case and a ABS printer can make up a nice little home server, get that upgraded to a N305 and bonus.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you are right about folks with 3D printers will enjoy this.

  • @SanFable
    @SanFable 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lol, yesterday I was thinking about this CWWK with PCIE slot vs CWWK CW-X86-P5 (super mini with 2 ethernets because its ok for pfsense bare-metal)
    I have investigated topic about 10g SFP+ card because I was thinking to bypass ONT and connect GPON to SFP+ port, then from second SFP+ port nice 10gbps DAC cable to my switch.
    You need PCIE 3.0 (not 2.0) SFP+ cards (they will work on x4 and its totally fine for 2x10gbps duplex), about 5W additional power consumption
    So on the table are:
    Mellanox connectx-3 doesn't support aspm -> Mini pc wont lower energy consumption in idle (keep in mind that)
    Mellanox connectx-4 supports aspm, is more expensive
    Unfortunetly above cards doesn't support anything but 1gbps or 10gbps (my gpon could be 2,5gbps)
    and there comes Intel x710-DA2 which EDIT: doesn't support 2,5gbps negotiation, supports ASPM
    and it costs alot, 150$ CWWK 2 ethernets vs 210$ this thing with PCIE + 120$ SFP+ PCIE card...
    Locked my homelab to 2.5g at this moment, anyway I will have 2gbps download pppoe ;)

    • @diogosn
      @diogosn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the x710-da2 and it doesn't support 2.5Gbps. Where did you get the information that supports 2.5Gbps in SFP?

    • @SanFable
      @SanFable 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diogosn oh, saw on some auctions, my bad, checked intel ark and thats True, 1 or 10gbps :c

  • @ilovefunnyamv2nd
    @ilovefunnyamv2nd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is awesome and exactly what I've been asking for....for years!
    Now unfortunately I am asking for more, because I've moved beyond looking to upgrade my Pi NAS.
    Lets get a bit more I/O, even if slower sata II ports for more HDDs.
    That said, it does have a PCIe slot, so that is an option at the tradeoff of attaching a graphics card.

  • @Rick-vm8bl
    @Rick-vm8bl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty cool system, that case would drive me nuts though!

  • @Phil-D83
    @Phil-D83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Waiting for these to start to appear with the Chinese Zhaoxin KX-7000 cpus.

  • @KRAVER_
    @KRAVER_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice little PC for Mobile Entertainment like RV or Car Stereo applications.

  • @jp-ny2pd
    @jp-ny2pd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I almost wish they'd left the PCIe connecteor as a card-edge instead of a socket. It'd have been pretty easy to get a PCIe x4 extener to fold the card back over the brick. You can still do that with a ribbon extender but those are a lot more delicate.

  • @okean8327
    @okean8327 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The unused fan mount could be used for a bracket that can hold the sata drives and the pcie card.

  • @JamesMyatt1
    @JamesMyatt1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's definitely interesting but I think a second NVMe slot is more interesting for more people than the pcie socket. You can use an NVMe to pcie adapter cable if you really need pcie and you have flexibility when mounting the pcie card.
    But from a general purpose server/router/nas point of view, it's a shame to waste half the pcie lanes on that pcie socket.
    But it seems more aimed at the open air test bench application that you have in front of you here than serious use.

    • @witalijlewandowski2384
      @witalijlewandowski2384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It depends. With PCIe we can add dual nvme card to it and still have nvme system drive on this little thing (so 3 nvme) If I do this with nvme to pcie it wold be chanky chain (nme to pcie adapter then pcie to dual nvme adapter) with more points to failure. Or have to use sata system drive (cost more and only MX500 or WDS500 have 5 years warranty when it's a norm for cheaper nvme like Crucial P3 and Kioxia) or usb to nvme for system - not great in my opinion because DRAMless ssd struggle with usb bridges (no HMB then) and if forced to find ssd with DRAM - cost go higher then SATA and less reliable on USB.
      What I really wish in terms of storage - some adapter with ASM chip to stack 2*M.2 ssds into one M.2 slot. Not greatest solution for hot pcie4/5 but definitely great for cold DRAMless drives.

  • @EViL3666
    @EViL3666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "What can we put in here that's interesting?" ... Thats my new chat up line!

  • @eldibs
    @eldibs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems like it'd be pretty trivial to design and 3D print a clip-on or screw-on carrier for a bracketless PCIe card to hold it more securely in place.

  • @ianboard544
    @ianboard544 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This looks like it would be great for a lab bench.

  • @multifrag
    @multifrag 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wonder if it would be great for a NAS build. Drop an HBA card in the PCIE port and have a backplane. Both run of 12V power. Energy efficient NAS

    • @witalijlewandowski2384
      @witalijlewandowski2384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PCIe opens the way to Backplane if many HDDs needed or cheap dual nvme cards (if someone like me needs only 2TB mirror and even gen2x1 for each ssd is not a problem, only silent operation needed) Dual 2,5Gb NIC is great for little home NAS too.

  • @Samkesch006
    @Samkesch006 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this. Sadly it isn't available in Germany (yet).

  • @lostincyberspaceIII
    @lostincyberspaceIII 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It would be neat to see one of these low power guys that can run on POE+, If you 2 ports then you could theoretically get up to 60W of power through the pair. I haven't seen one but It would be cool to have something like that, but a little bit more than something like a raspberry pie.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think we mentioned it in the video (we did in the article) that we used a splitter and did just this

  • @SFDestiny
    @SFDestiny 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video, interesting product.

  • @acuteaura
    @acuteaura 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's probably more accurate to refer to these processors as "Gracemont", since that's the E-core codename and this is the first gen where they don't get a dedicated codename for the entire die. Calling them "Alder Lake N" is a weird marketing move, but Intel is full of those.

    • @tonicipriani
      @tonicipriani 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's because the core architectures are used across generations, 13th gen Raptor Lake also has the same Gracemont cores. It's still under the 12th gen in the eyes of Intel. Not unlike how the Ryzen 7800X3D is called Ralphael but the it's cores are called Zen 4.

    • @acuteaura
      @acuteaura 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tonicipriani Yes... I'm very aware. But calling both the Atom successor and the flagship the same name is the Problem.

  • @SeanMullenAU
    @SeanMullenAU 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm excited and don't know why.

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really love these things, I just wish i could trust the firmware for these Aliexpress specials.

    • @gordonmak6694
      @gordonmak6694 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess it just bios, they take it from AMI because it's free

  • @kingneutron1
    @kingneutron1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks! Awesome review, would like to see a 10Gbe SFP+ version as I'm trying to get to 10Gbit in my house by the cheapest means possible :)

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow! Thank you! We may have something for you in the next video or two

  • @builtofire1
    @builtofire1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    the moment when the ssd disk is 10x the price of the machine

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it costs like a car, and more than a cat. So there is also that

  • @guyin916
    @guyin916 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i have a few things that are 12v. i was thinking of having a DIY 12 v PDU 1U. Seems plausible?

  • @fwiler
    @fwiler 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if you could split the power output that's used for the sata ports. That way you could run more sata ssd's if you put a pcie card on there.

  • @tjmarx
    @tjmarx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Given it's 12V I wonder how it might go in a vehicle as a media and entertainment system. Something to run maybe android, for streaming media from streaming services, emulated retro gaming, etc.
    What are your thoughts on suitability for such an application?

  • @Phil-D83
    @Phil-D83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Add a dual 10gb pcie card and 3d printed support + fan mount for it = nice mini router. A pcie extension cable fixes the issue.

    • @acuteaura
      @acuteaura 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you get more than a gigabit on your upstream?

    • @Phil-D83
      @Phil-D83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@acuteaura yupp

    • @Marco-dr5ho
      @Marco-dr5ho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with you, but consider that a 3d printed support on top of that heatsink will deform over time

    • @Phil-D83
      @Phil-D83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Marco-dr5ho depend in the material

  • @Walterz930
    @Walterz930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be nice to see the ditch the usb ports next to the power port and add a usb c port that would allow you to use it for video and power from a monitor

  • @slimjim2321
    @slimjim2321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally, a minipc w/ pcie that doesn't have a processor from 2016.

  • @user-ze5wd7od2m
    @user-ze5wd7od2m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This should be great for office if you care about climate change and passive is just great for quite use + the design is awesome

  • @choppergirl
    @choppergirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd totally buy one at a $50 price point
    I've been running a little fanless PC like this for the past 15 years as my webserver. 400mghz and 112K of RAM. Works great, no reason to upgrade. But maybe I would just for the heck of it, if they can get the price down to $50. I didn't pay anything for my unit, it was an HP thinclient I got free and repurposed.

    • @witalijlewandowski2384
      @witalijlewandowski2384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lucky you, I have buy my old HP thinclient with AMD G415 for around $50 with PSU. So no way. But 150-170 range for this would be great and looks more realistic.

    • @choppergirl
      @choppergirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@witalijlewandowski2384 If I were to spend this much on something like this, though, to replace a webserver that is on all the time... I might as well just buy a 19" rack and buy a rack mount server and start building a refrigerator sized massive tower of all my computers and network gear in one place. Get a 1u webserver or 4u proxmox server instead.
      I might buy this if I were to like hide it underground or something to run forever, with just a power over ethernet cable going to it. But man is it overkill just to be a little file server.
      These fanless design computers are probably meant for industrial applications with businesses flush with money, because these littel units have too much power for most little roles, but not enough to be a good desktop replacement. And in a business, computers are left on forever and totally neglected.

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Also what’s that cli stress test? Looks slick and like it would be handy to have.

  • @fredmunden673
    @fredmunden673 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you comment on the RJ45 com port, it is noted on CWWK store, thinking of a ntp server with a GPS connect to the RJ45 com port.

  • @darknessblades
    @darknessblades 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the USB also be used for USB-PD?
    I know that there are a few that support it like the minisforum UN100C

  • @NonyaDamnbusiness
    @NonyaDamnbusiness 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd instantly slap OPNsense/pfSense on that and use it as a home/SMB firewall.

  • @TheDevildragon95
    @TheDevildragon95 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it support XMP?
    I'm deciding which DDR5 SODIMM to buy:
    CL34 or CL40.

  • @flyingman358
    @flyingman358 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good design

  • @johnhudson7055
    @johnhudson7055 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would this make a pf sense box?

  • @MaderhaseTwo
    @MaderhaseTwo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you make a video on the Minisforum MS-01 (announced 2 days ago) once it comes out? Looks like a really cool machine for a small homeserver with all its network connectivty (fiber+copper) and dedicated GPU support

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We published a first look of the MS-01 unit we have on our shorts channel and on the STH main site.
      Short: th-cam.com/users/shortsTuFMMeZyfsY?feature=share
      Main site: www.servethehome.com/minisforum-ms-01-launched-10gbe-mini-pc-first-look/
      Full review coming with the unit that got here a few days ago.

  • @MykePagan
    @MykePagan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need a home Openshift (k8s) lab. Most of my colleagues buy monster used servers and run nested virtualization, but that is a kludge and requires lots of expensive RAM. It is also as loud asa vacuum cleaner, wh8ch is bad for marital harmony.
    Six of these makes a clean workable Openshift cluster.

  • @Enonymouse_
    @Enonymouse_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this might make a nice low end router

  • @phenry5083
    @phenry5083 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did I miss it or was there no mention of the SD card slot?

  • @jtd8719
    @jtd8719 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Did i see a microSD slot as well?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes. I think that got cut to keep the video shorter. There is a bit more detail in the main site article.

  • @neilquinn
    @neilquinn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really want to see some fanless machines with at least 1-2 performance cores (pentium gold, i3-1215u, i5-1315u or equivalent). Could possibly use the new fanless coolers using the airjet technology. A quick google says they can remove about 10w of heat which might not be enough for those chips though. (they run 15w - 50w burst type power). Seems awfully close though if you could limit to the base 15w area. Maybe a 2-3nm version of those chips could get there as well in a few years.
    A current compromise might be the N300 chips that are 7w tdp and have 8 efficiency cores vs. the 4 here, but single threaded performance would still be blah.

    • @ooHotcooleRoo
      @ooHotcooleRoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      cwwk has you covered there too haha, it even was reviewed on this channel. Video titled: "KING of Fanless 2.5GbE Mini PC Routers and Firewalls Now with Intel Core i5 Alder Lake"

    • @ergohack
      @ergohack 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Know of anything that uses something like the 8505, U300e, or i3-1315u _and_ has an x4 or x8 (electrical) PCIe slot?

    • @ooHotcooleRoo
      @ooHotcooleRoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ergohack As in actual PCIe slot no, but M.2 with full 4 lanes - yes that same PC has it (also has an option for i3 and 8505). If you want 10Gig then m.2 copper nics exist (and work it it too, as I have tested one), or well.. riser shenanigans. But not with an actual PCI-e slot, those probably also exist, since there are mini PC's with mellanox built in to the chassy as mentioned in the video, but have not seen one barebones. TBH this sort of thing is more miniITX type deal.

  • @shiba7651
    @shiba7651 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Would be really nice to have as a home pfsense box!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It might become one for our office.

  • @kevinpeters5000
    @kevinpeters5000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Patrick do the SaTA sockets support 3.5” disks? I.e. with the required 12v power rail.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would suggest SATA SSDs. I think the team found HDDs on those to be more problematic.

  • @dave5008-
    @dave5008- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will this device support legacy boot OS'es? I want to install the Sophos free firewall.

  • @vvg916happyengineer
    @vvg916happyengineer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello fellow computer nerds, I have a question, If you had 40,000 Euros what data server and stuff would you buy and install
    in order to generate 12000-16000 Euros per WEEK ? (assuming 48 week average) Probably using used EPYC CPU's & bunch of XEON's ?

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan1239 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review! Great video!

  • @nigeltrigger4499
    @nigeltrigger4499 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can you get a 32TB Intel Optane 905P from? Largest capacity I can find is about 1TB.

  • @courierdog1941
    @courierdog1941 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could this unit be set up as a firewall using pfSense??

  • @udirt
    @udirt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That intel i226V chip, are there known limitations? The gigabit era had a few Intel nics with quirks like no vlan tagging or mtu limitations etc. So this gives me some fears.

  • @TheBupsta
    @TheBupsta 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Patrick, don't listen to the naysayers regarding your low power and mini PC videos. I honestly love them and they're the reason i watch your channel vs servers i can never afford 😂

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! After doing the STH main site for coming on 15 years in June and then doing YT, I know folks will always have some issue. On the server side, I look at it like some will view those for work today, others will come back in a few years to look at them on the secondary market

    • @TheBupsta
      @TheBupsta 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo that's so true, I occasionally see servers that were out of reach for really good prices secondhand after a couple years so I should keep an open mind to enterprise grade hardware as well!
      I am interested in exposing people in developing nations to the world of IT, so I love the small form factor PCs that can help people learn because they're great for places where power isn't stable or guaranteed and shipping them internationally is much cheaper as well. Power consumption and weight really matter in those cases 😁

  • @Ruhgtfo
    @Ruhgtfo 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Look like a mini stage use to absorb China Tea pot overflow thingy

  • @JamesMyatt1
    @JamesMyatt1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks cool but I don't understand who it's actually for. The pcie socket is the main selling point with almost half of the pcie lanes routed to it. But it's way too flimsy for permanent connection and the case/heatsink design doesn't really support mounting inside another enclosure like a proper SBC which would be necessary for using a riser cable. Still a huge improvement on the zimaboard.

  • @misterc3835
    @misterc3835 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This kind of n100 mini PC are great but price should be around 100USD and should have type-c power supply, 2 x 32GB memory slots, 2 x nvme slots high speed, 2 x 2.5 Gbps or upper, fanless with optional external fan, few usb3 ports, DP/HDMI at 60+ Hz, small slots for PCIE extensions 😊

    • @witalijlewandowski2384
      @witalijlewandowski2384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be great, but a year or two ago people did pay more than that for 2GB Rpi. Yes, efficiency is a bit high in price (N100), we can go for ryzen R3 for close price (with more performance, expansion possibilities, more RAM and full ATX) but can we drop R3 to those pretty 8to25w power draw or cool it passively without Noctua NH-P1or another monster which costs like another R3 system?
      N100 can fit little homelab with two 8-port switches, power adapters and storage into space of single Dell 5050sff. And it's not intel n5105 thing with performance of Rpi, it's really useful CPU to host something non-production.

    • @fwiler
      @fwiler 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you basically ran out of pcie lanes with your first want of 2 high speed nvme slots. No more lanes for everything else.

  • @BxKRs
    @BxKRs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ll call it the Quacker for short.

  • @terrycarr470
    @terrycarr470 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On the graph/charts can you minimize the shaking that is happening when slowly zooming in?

  • @bastian433
    @bastian433 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the question is: will it be fast enough to route my 4 gbit pppoe internet connection in opnsense with a 10G card on it.... There must be some sorcery in the router of my ISP to be able to do that without using a lot of power. The N6005 did 2.5G though.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For NAT, if you have a decent NIC you are probably OK. We might have something more interesting for that in a video or two (not sure of the exact order)

  • @muratcanterzi
    @muratcanterzi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can this power two 3.5 inch hard drives for diy nas?

  • @marcorobbe9003
    @marcorobbe9003 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks again for a next great review - I love your videos 👍
    You made a short comparsion to the Zimaboard. Was it ment to the Zima board or blade?
    I would be happy if you would make a real comparsion. Meaning this tiny little pc vs blade vs board. As a runnung system with som VMs in Proxmox for example.
    What are the systems consuming in idle or with some permanently running tasks like smart home with pulling data like temperature or what ever situation would fit to real live.
    That would be great ❤.
    I yust want to set up a Proxmox Smart Home system on a high availebility Proxmox cluster. If I am doing smart home, I don't want to stay only on one system.
    So it should run for a long time and because of that power is very interesting to me.
    (Also I didn't found any video, that yust compares the both Zima board and blade with each other according power, performance and other capabilitys.)
    Again, thanks a lot - and I also would appreciate some short words from you according the above topic if you have some more knowledge on that 👌

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We may do that in the future. Either the ZimaBoard or ZimaBlade, both are using Apollo Lake CPUs from 2016 which is why they have things like PCIe Gen2 slots, 1GbE not dual 2.5GbE and CPU performance that is 1/3 to 1/5 this.

  • @bmiller949
    @bmiller949 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would load IPFire or PFSense and make this a firewall.

  • @MattiasKullberg
    @MattiasKullberg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the N100, but this just seems soo not right for everything....sure, building a low power "Jack of all master of none" machine.
    And theres soo many options in that price bracket....soo the only time i can see this make perfect sense is if you want an overpriced or underpowered toy.....or want to upgrade your Zimaboard :)
    All in all, a pretty "Meeeeh!" product, reviewed in an entertaining way.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @antonisautos8704
    @antonisautos8704 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That 30TB drive runs nearly $2900. Wow thats a lot. But i bet in 5 years theyll be able to be bought for less than $1000

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope so!

    • @antonisautos8704
      @antonisautos8704 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ServeTheHomeVideo me too, as the 2TB and less drives are starting to feel quite small. Install 5 or 6 AAA games on it and you're basically at max capacity for the drive.

  • @oddball_the_blue
    @oddball_the_blue 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you can get it to behave with a SAS HBA card then it'd be a great little upgrade to mount to an old HP microserver case (yes some hacking would be required but pretty sure it's not outside the wit of man to manage).

  • @Cpgeekorg
    @Cpgeekorg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a cwwk box, they actually made pretty decent stuff, but i'm still annoyed that they keep putting 2.5g on stuff instead of going with 10g so it can be useful. - I suppose you could plug in a 10g nic to the pcie slot (not sure if there's enough bandwidth there)

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PCIe Bandwidth, cost, and power all go way up with 10Gbase-T

  • @kineticman123
    @kineticman123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the transfer speed of the USB C port?

  • @acme64
    @acme64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hows it perform running something like opensense?

  • @boydw1
    @boydw1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the closest competitor to this might be the Odroid H3+. Doesn't have the PCIe card slot, but you get dual DDR4 ram slots, and a 4 lane PCIe 3.0 M.2 NVMe slot, plus it still has the dual 2.5GB ethernet ports. The N6005 chip should be pretty close to the N100.
    Would be interesting to build one up and do a head to head performance comparison.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The N100 is like a 50%+ performance upgrade over the N6005.

  • @MayankJairaj
    @MayankJairaj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want that ssd its so cute

  • @NonyaDamnbusiness
    @NonyaDamnbusiness 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The companies building these things with PCIe slots hanging off the edge should really thing about also making a "PCIe side-carrier housing" as an option so users can securely bolt it to the side of the main chassis to house a PCIe card in. First company that does that wins.

  • @wskinnyodden
    @wskinnyodden 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A PCIe device so I can add a DVB-T/C DVB-S card and make a TV Tuner Server with TVHeadend for my network and watch TV where ever my network reaches :P

  • @hammarn84
    @hammarn84 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nothing a Dremel would fix :D

  • @williebrort
    @williebrort หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zimaboard modified, but they forgot to adress the problems the zimaboard had. PCIE card bracket doesn't fit on that as well.

  • @udirt
    @udirt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should put one of your DPUs in the pcie slot ;-)

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The BlueField-2 and BlueField-3 DPUs use a lot more power.

  • @EVR1AL
    @EVR1AL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone familiar with thermal physics and passive cooling knows this is the best design for cooling, it will run 10-20C less than closed box and lifted up 2-3C less than close to desk. Too bad you didn't test the thermals.

  • @OghamTheBold
    @OghamTheBold 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I keep mine in the sink - and run delicious cold water over it - it's living its best life