Shots in the Video: Field Shots: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN Course Usage 1: Bryant Lake, Eden Prairie, MN Course Usage 2: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN Course Usage 3: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN Course Usage 4: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN Eclipse Shot 1: Bryant Lake, Eden Prairie, MN Eclipse Shot 1: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN Proton Shot 1: Oakwood Park, Cottage Grove, MN Proton Shot 2: Bryant Lake, Eden Prairie, MN Fission Shot 1: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN Fission Shot 2: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN Lefty Lines: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN Wrap Up Shot 1: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN Wrap Up Shot 2: Highland Park, St. Paul, MN Wrap Up Shot 3: Bryant Lake, Eden Prairie, MN Wrap Up Shot 4: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN
Totally agree. I've been recommending a Insanity and Wrath combo for 10 years now. If you're wanting more flexibility in the neutron plastic, the Highlighter Yellow tend to be more flexible.
Always a great content and good explanation of the discs you throw! As a newbie it’s very interesting. You have given me a truckload of discs in my bag mainly mvp and axiom 😅
The Insanity been the top driver in my bag for the last two seasons. Absolutely love everything I can do with that disc. Flex lines with it are a blast.
I’ll have to try this dish again. I have an eclipse and I thought it was too flippy. I don’t like when discs lie on the numbers but I’ll give it another shot
I have a theory about rollers that explains why the insanity is an insane roller disc. Understable rolling discs turn over quicker because there is much more weight on the top of the disc relative to the parting line, pulling the disc over quicker. The insanity has a balanced weight above and below the "parting line" rolling edge which means it stay vertical rolling for a crazy long time. I had one completely run out of speed then stop and flop over. Balanced weight above and below the parting line rolling edge means rolling for days
In my experience even max weight fissions are way flippier than any other plastic for the insanity. I would rank the stability of the plastics (from beef to flippy): eclipse, cosmic neutron, neutron, plasma, proton, fission. All just my personal experience! Runs will ofcourse vary. I have tried two different neutrons, plasmas and fissions.
Thank you for the info! I’ve only tried the one proton so I might have gotten an oddball, but did pick up another one recently so I’ll see how it compares! After reading the comments, I definitely need to try a Cosmic Neutron!
I’ve got a bit of a faster arm then I used to, but the insanity has remained in the bag as a fantastic roller disc. It also comes out every so often if I need something that flips and goes far even without a run-up. Just found a sub 150g fission that may actually kick out the old one.
Finally! I have more Insanity plastic varieties than any other MVP/Axiom disc, that I own. My oldest is a Pearl White 1st Run Plasma Insanity 169g from 2013 (I believe) My favorite disc mold and most used driver in the woods.
Cosmic neutron is a bit more beef. I have them all , and the Cosmic Neutron flys like a 9 5 .5 2 . Great review. Thanks for making such a detailed video.
Excellent overview, thanks. I don't bag anything faster than a 7, but if I meet a distance goal I'm going to bag a 9. I think this will be the one, probably neutron... though I am a Proton fanboy.
Hope you reach that goal soon!!!! Another disc you might want to try once you feel ready is the Virus. Same speed as the Insanity that is easier to turn and slightly less fade. Review in the works!
Monster stamp? Not too sure. Only non stock one I have is the Halloween Eclipse that was in the video thumbnail. If you are able to send me a pic of it I could do some digging!
As a newbie and want to try a fairway driver with slower arm speed, what weight do you suggest, you said a little lighter disc, but what is a light weight? Regards Johan
When it comes to MVP family, I have found that the lighter the better. For myself, I try to look for 160-164 if I want the disc to fly close to the numbers. Near max weight if I want a more wind/torque resistant option. Depending on arm, if you are maxing out 300 or less. Look for 150 to 160. If up to 350ft of power, then lower to mid 160’s.
Insanity's are sick! I still don't understand how they have so much glide considering their shape. A Proton Insanity was the disc that taught me how to throw hyzer flips. I have since replaced them in my bag with a Nebula Aura Mantra which is a bit more understable but pushes more distance for me. I personally think they are more of a 10/11 speed since they are noticeably chunkier in the hand than most 9 speeds and fly so far. If you haven't tried Mantra's in the past, I recommend! They would be a great disc for your format given that their different plastic types almost all provide different flight shapes.
I was surprised by the torque resistance and stability of the swirly rim proton. I bought a proton 3 years ago that was way more Flippy. About like that neutron was. I bag it for hyzerflip 4hands which is my weakness. I prefer flat release
I wonder if the addition of that color swirl in the rims did change the stability. The proton I have has a swirly rim and has good torque resistance like yours. I'll keep an eye open for an older run and see how it flies.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf I feel like I couldn't 4hand my old one but my new one 4hands perfect. My sidewinder is way more stable on back hand but flips into a roller immediately on 4hand.
Typically I always feel speed 7-9 are fairway drivers.. speed 10 is borderline. Unlike golf where they have driver, wood, hybrid, irons etc. Speed 9 for me is like a long iron, while the speed 10-11 is your hybrid driver and speed 12 your wood. But it will all depend on who you talk to. Like how speed 4 putt and approach discs, like the Zone, is considered a midrange by some and putter by others.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf Me personally I can’t use anything over a 9 speed consistently, I do have 1 defy but I’m not consistent with it.. I think I just don’t have the arm speed yet, I’ve only been playing for 3-4 months
I have a love/hate relationship with the Insanity. It’s just too inconsistent for me. Likely to do with the fact that it’s just not great in windy conditions. I’m much more consistent with a beat-in Champ Valkyrie. Don’t get me wrong, when it’s good it’s amazing.
I finally got my hands on a solid color rim Proton Insanity. That thing was SO different than my swirly rim Proton. Swirly rim held torque well, while the solid color rim was almost a roller. Now it was slightly used, but looked like it was thrown only a few times before I got it.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf I told you. That's how mine was. I could throw it 80 percent on hyzer backhand and it still would get a huge turn but did fight back at very end. I hit my fence with my swirly rim yesterday and sliced a huge chunk out of the proton plastic. It's not as durable as champion especially when it's hot out. Cosmic neutron is very durable though
Shots in the Video:
Field Shots: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN
Course Usage 1: Bryant Lake, Eden Prairie, MN
Course Usage 2: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN
Course Usage 3: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN
Course Usage 4: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN
Eclipse Shot 1: Bryant Lake, Eden Prairie, MN
Eclipse Shot 1: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN
Proton Shot 1: Oakwood Park, Cottage Grove, MN
Proton Shot 2: Bryant Lake, Eden Prairie, MN
Fission Shot 1: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN
Fission Shot 2: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN
Lefty Lines: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN
Wrap Up Shot 1: The Preserve: Lynx Course, Clearwater, MN
Wrap Up Shot 2: Highland Park, St. Paul, MN
Wrap Up Shot 3: Bryant Lake, Eden Prairie, MN
Wrap Up Shot 4: North Valley, Inver Grove, MN
The Insanity, Wrath and Scepter is my 9 speed line up. The Insanity and Wrath really compliment each other very nicely.
Agreed. Those are my two most used drivers.
Totally agree. I've been recommending a Insanity and Wrath combo for 10 years now.
If you're wanting more flexibility in the neutron plastic, the Highlighter Yellow tend to be more flexible.
Always a great content and good explanation of the discs you throw! As a newbie it’s very interesting. You have given me a truckload of discs in my bag mainly mvp and axiom 😅
Happy to hear the videos have been helpful!!! My condolences to your wallet 😅.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf 😂
The Insanity been the top driver in my bag for the last two seasons. Absolutely love everything I can do with that disc. Flex lines with it are a blast.
Another banger, can't wait for the next one
More will be coming!! Thank you!
I've played over 10 years, and the Fission Insanity at 172 Grams is my all-time favorite 9 speed!
I legit have 20 insanities now. They are such an essential part of my game.
🤯 which is your favorite plastic?
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf definitely proton. Seems like the most neutral of all the plastics at this elevation. Eclipse is a firebird
@@InbredJed82060 do you feel like the swirly rim protons are more stable then the old rims
Great video and editting!
Thank you! 🙏 Glad you enjoyed!!!
I’ll have to try this dish again. I have an eclipse and I thought it was too flippy. I don’t like when discs lie on the numbers but I’ll give it another shot
Could have been an odd ball Eclipse. Not unheard of to have a range of stability. I personally like if my Eclipse was flippy 😅. Trade ya!! 😂
I have a theory about rollers that explains why the insanity is an insane roller disc. Understable rolling discs turn over quicker because there is much more weight on the top of the disc relative to the parting line, pulling the disc over quicker. The insanity has a balanced weight above and below the "parting line" rolling edge which means it stay vertical rolling for a crazy long time. I had one completely run out of speed then stop and flop over. Balanced weight above and below the parting line rolling edge means rolling for days
I’ve been bagging 1-3 insanitys for the past two years, lovely disc.
In my experience even max weight fissions are way flippier than any other plastic for the insanity. I would rank the stability of the plastics (from beef to flippy): eclipse, cosmic neutron, neutron, plasma, proton, fission.
All just my personal experience! Runs will ofcourse vary. I have tried two different neutrons, plasmas and fissions.
Thank you for the info! I’ve only tried the one proton so I might have gotten an oddball, but did pick up another one recently so I’ll see how it compares!
After reading the comments, I definitely need to try a Cosmic Neutron!
Nice videos man! Seen you at The Montissippi Disc Golf Course and was the one that returned that Green Bodanza putter back to you! Cheers!
Thank you! It was awesome meeting ya!
I bag three Insanities in different plastics. Eclipse, cosmic neutron, and fission. Pretty much covers all the lines I need in a 9 speed.
Love when you can get such a wide variety of shots from a single mold!
Can confirm my Eclipse is also quite overstable (and flat) - more like 0 turn, 2 fade, maybe even 3.
Glad to hear I’m not the only one!
I’ve got a bit of a faster arm then I used to, but the insanity has remained in the bag as a fantastic roller disc. It also comes out every so often if I need something that flips and goes far even without a run-up.
Just found a sub 150g fission that may actually kick out the old one.
Finally! I have more Insanity plastic varieties than any other MVP/Axiom disc, that I own. My oldest is a Pearl White 1st Run Plasma Insanity 169g from 2013 (I believe)
My favorite disc mold and most used driver in the woods.
😳 wow you have some goodies!
Cosmic neutron is a bit more beef. I have them all , and the Cosmic Neutron flys like a 9 5 .5 2 .
Great review. Thanks for making such a detailed video.
Thank you for the kind words and the great info! I’ll have to try to get my hands on a Cosmic Neutron!
Excellent overview, thanks. I don't bag anything faster than a 7, but if I meet a distance goal I'm going to bag a 9. I think this will be the one, probably neutron... though I am a Proton fanboy.
Proton insanitys are lovely
Hope you reach that goal soon!!!! Another disc you might want to try once you feel ready is the Virus. Same speed as the Insanity that is easier to turn and slightly less fade. Review in the works!
I have the Insanity with the monster stamp, which plastic type is it? I noticed you had one .
Monster stamp? Not too sure. Only non stock one I have is the Halloween Eclipse that was in the video thumbnail. If you are able to send me a pic of it I could do some digging!
It is not unreasonable for a slower arm to bag four Insanities in different plastics to cover almost every slot.
Love discs that this is the case!! So much versatility!
As a newbie and want to try a fairway driver with slower arm speed, what weight do you suggest, you said a little lighter disc, but what is a light weight? Regards Johan
When it comes to MVP family, I have found that the lighter the better. For myself, I try to look for 160-164 if I want the disc to fly close to the numbers. Near max weight if I want a more wind/torque resistant option. Depending on arm, if you are maxing out 300 or less. Look for 150 to 160. If up to 350ft of power, then lower to mid 160’s.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf thank you for the advice I really appreciate it!
Insanity's are sick! I still don't understand how they have so much glide considering their shape. A Proton Insanity was the disc that taught me how to throw hyzer flips. I have since replaced them in my bag with a Nebula Aura Mantra which is a bit more understable but pushes more distance for me. I personally think they are more of a 10/11 speed since they are noticeably chunkier in the hand than most 9 speeds and fly so far. If you haven't tried Mantra's in the past, I recommend! They would be a great disc for your format given that their different plastic types almost all provide different flight shapes.
Wow, this Fission seems pretty dumpy at the end of its flight, just falls out of the sky
I was surprised by the torque resistance and stability of the swirly rim proton. I bought a proton 3 years ago that was way more Flippy. About like that neutron was. I bag it for hyzerflip 4hands which is my weakness. I prefer flat release
I wonder if the addition of that color swirl in the rims did change the stability. The proton I have has a swirly rim and has good torque resistance like yours. I'll keep an eye open for an older run and see how it flies.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf I feel like I couldn't 4hand my old one but my new one 4hands perfect. My sidewinder is way more stable on back hand but flips into a roller immediately on 4hand.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf my heat is actually very similar to the insanity
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf the cosmic neutron lift was really good on 4hand I could release it flat with some power.
Fairway driver? Do you mean because it’s a 9 speed? Mine says distance driver on it, maybe because it’s a neutron?
Typically I always feel speed 7-9 are fairway drivers.. speed 10 is borderline. Unlike golf where they have driver, wood, hybrid, irons etc. Speed 9 for me is like a long iron, while the speed 10-11 is your hybrid driver and speed 12 your wood.
But it will all depend on who you talk to. Like how speed 4 putt and approach discs, like the Zone, is considered a midrange by some and putter by others.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf Me personally I can’t use anything over a 9 speed consistently, I do have 1 defy but I’m not consistent with it.. I think I just don’t have the arm speed yet, I’ve only been playing for 3-4 months
Does it work for righty's?
I think they made a couple right handed runs of the Insanity! I think Great Lakes Disc has some 😉
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf Still waiting on a right handed smoke shifter though
I have a love/hate relationship with the Insanity. It’s just too inconsistent for me. Likely to do with the fact that it’s just not great in windy conditions. I’m much more consistent with a beat-in Champ Valkyrie. Don’t get me wrong, when it’s good it’s amazing.
Do you have the new swirly rim in proton. They're a little more stable doesn't turnover
I finally got my hands on a solid color rim Proton Insanity. That thing was SO different than my swirly rim Proton. Swirly rim held torque well, while the solid color rim was almost a roller. Now it was slightly used, but looked like it was thrown only a few times before I got it.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf I told you. That's how mine was. I could throw it 80 percent on hyzer backhand and it still would get a huge turn but did fight back at very end. I hit my fence with my swirly rim yesterday and sliced a huge chunk out of the proton plastic. It's not as durable as champion especially when it's hot out. Cosmic neutron is very durable though