Zerg cant even deal with 4 Vikings, thats how bad Zerg anti-air is. Like it is completly off the usual tech path and it takes forever to built a Spire, and the units you built there are so specific that they are absolutly useless if your opponent decides to built something else...
nah, zerg aint air is really nice, the problem for solar here is that broodlord roach simply isn't a composition to fight mech, it works well vs bio but mech yes vipers are great but at that point might as well keep 4 corruptors to deal with the vikings and some queens close by.
Use is a big word for flying detection. Harstem rly is trying hard to hype up the unit but all it did was save some scans (in late game). Would rather have a thor in the army, literally same cost since minerals don't matter.
We all know that in our leagues. ravens just die. If they get a autoturret out they diamond. but below master they most likely supposed to just fly in with the f2 move and die.
The only things I cannot do digitally is probably receiving new documents such as passport and foreign passport. My employer pays taxes for me, if I have additional income I can just fit it in app. Electricity, water hot and cold - everything I pay digital way, auto-payment is possible if I wish to do so. I go to snailmail once in a while to receive packages from abroad. I live in Moscow, BTW.
@@jhat2014 meh, there is no such thing as democracy anyway. Either you obey corporations or authocrat. Also checkbooks are not implemented here and we pay online for everything. We even have digital tips in restaurants lol.
@@abyrvalg_ I'm not even sure that I exist or that this phone I'm typing on is real, so no, I'm not sure. But I'd rather die than serve a mad king Many corporations controlling things is safer than one man controlling things. One is a machine, the other is madness. Machines are fixable, madness only ends in death. People can change corporations. People can't change a mad king. Democracy grows stronger and more free over time, a mad king entrenches himself in delusion, anger, resentment, and control. Neither corporate control nor autocrat control is ideal, but it's certainly not a shoulder-shrug or a 'meh'. Neither one is good for right now, but only one has a real chance for future freedom. One day the world will have true freedom. Putin is not contributing to this future
Im with harstem; its one of the biggest mysteries. AA missile is a great spell; scanning tumors in the early/mid game is completely eco insanity compared to building a single raven; and half of all terran games are lost to that fat fungal onto the clumped ghosts... and scanning everywhere all the time is a lot more APM intensive than having a single raven in your army; and it will quickly dissuade such infestor trickery. Oh wait and then you can harass with them as well; indeed definitely not worth 2 supply.
@@eelcohoogendoorn8044 ". AA missile is a great spell" Right man, those pesky zerglings with their massive armor are just such a threat to terrran, and same with those banelings with infinity armor too. Damn, why don't they use them some more indeed....... Raven is simply not worth the investment in TvZ. Not to mention that the Zerg army is simply more mobile than the Terran one so even if AA missile hits, they can just run backwards and it was a wasted cast...
@@shadowpriest2574 zerg air is actually very tanky; and yes upgrades matter in general in the late game. Sure often an AA is just a deterrent; but then again thats massively useful in the defence when prep and positioning is everything; and also huge in the offence; dont want to fight right now thats ok let me just snipe this base for free.
@@eelcohoogendoorn8044 Zerg air is very tanky ? Right, except nothing that terran uses is affected much against air in that sense. For Vikings its a minor buff , against broodlords they use magic dmg , not physical and mutas are far too mobile for it to matter .
I learned that the only way I can deal with tanks is Harstem's Hydra rush. They are not that scary to hydras then to roaches. Also could be morfed into lurkers later on.
@@martinkrauser4029 You literally have to turn in your taxes regardless? How does that make any sense? You're just annoying them. The 'amount' of tax forms doesn't change. I'm sure they have a way to scan papers anyway.
@@totaldramagamer5521 "how does that make any sense" you're necessitating manual data entry. Why would you be sure they have a way to reliably scan submissions? Are you a computer vision expert? Do you work in state admin? No, there is no computer vision that can read tax submissions unsupervised. No, the number of tax forms doesn't change but the labor required to process them does when you avoid using an automated IT system. So no, you're not annoying anyone, you're literally creating jobs for the IRS. That person you're "annoying" wouldn't even be working there in the first place because the IT would take their job away. So you're bloating your public admin and feeding what you hate just to make the following point: "my time is worth less than the time of an IRS data entry monkey" cutting off your nose to spite your face y'all are deeply ridiculous lmao
@@martinkrauser4029 A leaf could blow over into the White House lawn and they'll recruit another 40,000 IRS agents to tax the trees responsible for that leaf. Here's how it actually works: If tax numbers go up, more agents. If tax numbers go down, more agents. If tax stays the same, more agents. That is the US government. Not this "better recruit to meet the demand" nonsense. Always bigger, no matter what, at a constant pace. Why is it like this? Because it's America, and we can print more money than you can cut trees into that tax paper form you're hollering about. You are both absurdly confident in the gov't to properly regulate its size to fit a by demand basis, and absurdly underestimating just how spiteful people can be to the tax system. It's almost impressive. -- I'll give you a bonus tip. Check out any gov't office that doesn't involve collecting money... and you'll find they're understaffed to hell despite 'the work load clearly necessitating an increase'. I wonder why...
Lotta gas, requires a techlabbed starport, complicates micro. They'd rather pump out vikings/medis with a reactor addon, use scans, save gas, and simplify army control.
@@eliashaider6857 It still is a great harassing unit which can also kind of function like an oracale with less speed. But as u said that wont rly cut it. Just build a lib or 2 to harass^^
If Solar would quit pulling back lings in fights and let them do their work while microing his other units instead.. Multiple times he had this game in the bag..
A Raven is 100 minerals and 200 gas. A mule can mine 200 minerals. So if you can clear creep tumors in just two small area's, you have just gained more resources than you spent. Every time i see pro's scanning the whole map over and over just to clear creep i slap my forehead Captain Picard style. I get Raven's are difficult to control in your army, but even if it only saves you 2 scans and dies it's saved you resources.
It's not saving resources though. Late game, when they're spamming scans, they already have resources banking, and they'll get those 200 minerals in time from SCVs. And they gain by not building a vulnerable unit, prone to getting itself killed, without a lot of genuine utility in the matchup.
@@martinkrauser4029 it's a huge damage boost if your opponent doesn't just disengage and run for the duration. Which late game, most zergs will do. Infestors, that's what the scans are for. A Raven is admittedly more likely to spot them, but scans are free and aren't taking away army supply.
I dont understand the lack of ravens. I get that they really dont NEED it, Terran has more than enough tools. Just keep it following, out of your army group. I suppose they f2 too much
Yeah Ravens are massively imbalanced. It's so funny how bad terrans are. They had to officially put it in the patch explanation. Terrans are too bad to use ravens the way other races use all their units, so we have to nerf infestor unburrow times. Terrans face palmed and faced the music, and one of them built a raven. I'm guessing it will be short lived, as guilt isn't the strongest motivator, and terrans didn't magically just get as skillful as the other races.
Harstem has used ravens some, and does it better than any terran. Terrans are usually good at telling their marines to move apart from each other and pushing T.
It's funny how terrans complain about being weak while they also complain about having not enough hot keys for the tools they have. All the while zerg and protons don't even have those tools.😅
Moron86, you sound just as daft as your name. The devs robbed the best units and 'tools' from other races and gave them to Zerg, like Mind Control, Irradiation, Disruption Web, while fortifying and improving all the existing tools they already had, like enabling burrow-move which is stealth with no mp cost, giving Zerg Queens who are tanky, powerful, cheap, anti-air with healing, and adding many units who can force one-sided losses on the enemy at zero risk, like Swarm Hosts and their free locusts or Broodlords with their free broodlings, and vipers with their fking abducts that renders all enemy heavy units useless. In the meantime, Carriers somehow have to build weak-ass interceptors and pay for them too, archons are weak, phoenices weak, Mothership sucks (give back arbiters), dark archon got removed. Terran nukes got nerfed to the point nobody uses them, battlecruisers also useless, their whole end-game unit roster is useless. They finally made Cyclones viable for a few months, and now it's going back to the dumpster fire. Yeah, what a sad state.
@cerber3260 a tool is something a person uses to help complete a task. Example: the unit called a raven, is a tool that terrans can use to disable carriers, battlecruisers, colossus, etc.
Terran design is too strong mid-late. Game is not ballanced. Terran can turtle = no one can attack him... terran when attacking can drop u all his army with medevacs..
Harstem: "Raven is so OP" Yeah, why don't we also nerf Ravens to oblivion? Let's also make Siege tanks spend 50 minerals each time they siege up, while we're at it.
As a Terran player "what is that Raven thingy, is it DLC?"
Secret unit only unlocks when you reach GM
This Terran player fixed corruptor and creep problem with one unit. Zerg hates him. See on the next page.
He was done with Micro as a CONCEPT. LOL good one.
Zerg cant even deal with 4 Vikings, thats how bad Zerg anti-air is. Like it is completly off the usual tech path and it takes forever to built a Spire, and the units you built there are so specific that they are absolutly useless if your opponent decides to built something else...
nah, zerg aint air is really nice, the problem for solar here is that broodlord roach simply isn't a composition to fight mech, it works well vs bio but mech yes vipers are great but at that point might as well keep 4 corruptors to deal with the vikings and some queens close by.
Criteria for impressive play:
Terran: Build their units.
Zerg: Take a series off a Terran.
Protoss: Take a game off a Terran.
well yeah of course i'd be impressed by a protoss taking a game off terran, that's hard to do when your IQ is in the single digits
@Robothuck hey now it is in the double digits. 17 is 2 digits right
More like :
Impressive Zerg : Lose with all the advantages they have.
I here bye propose to rename the Raven to 'Parasitic Bomb Bait' after the making of this video.
I hope this is not a one of, and that more Terrans continue to use the raven in the future
Use is a big word for flying detection. Harstem rly is trying hard to hype up the unit but all it did was save some scans (in late game). Would rather have a thor in the army, literally same cost since minerals don't matter.
We all know that in our leagues. ravens just die. If they get a autoturret out they diamond. but below master they most likely supposed to just fly in with the f2 move and die.
Will def continue to be unpopular build.
it wasnt even a big factor here, the Ghosts still won the game
The index funds analogy was brilliant XD
The only things I cannot do digitally is probably receiving new documents such as passport and foreign passport. My employer pays taxes for me, if I have additional income I can just fit it in app. Electricity, water hot and cold - everything I pay digital way, auto-payment is possible if I wish to do so. I go to snailmail once in a while to receive packages from abroad. I live in Moscow, BTW.
Too bad you can't get rid of putin with an app
@@jhat2014 meh, there is no such thing as democracy anyway. Either you obey corporations or authocrat. Also checkbooks are not implemented here and we pay online for everything. We even have digital tips in restaurants lol.
@@abyrvalg_ how stereotypically pessimistic of you. You're wrong
@@jhat2014 are you sure?
@@abyrvalg_ I'm not even sure that I exist or that this phone I'm typing on is real, so no, I'm not sure.
But I'd rather die than serve a mad king
Many corporations controlling things is safer than one man controlling things. One is a machine, the other is madness. Machines are fixable, madness only ends in death. People can change corporations. People can't change a mad king. Democracy grows stronger and more free over time, a mad king entrenches himself in delusion, anger, resentment, and control.
Neither corporate control nor autocrat control is ideal, but it's certainly not a shoulder-shrug or a 'meh'. Neither one is good for right now, but only one has a real chance for future freedom. One day the world will have true freedom. Putin is not contributing to this future
Dude what? The last time I mailed letters was 30 years ago…
Ryung has spoken, Ravens are in.
Mech - Raven is in. Let's see if Bio - Raven can ever make an apperance.
Im with harstem; its one of the biggest mysteries. AA missile is a great spell; scanning tumors in the early/mid game is completely eco insanity compared to building a single raven; and half of all terran games are lost to that fat fungal onto the clumped ghosts... and scanning everywhere all the time is a lot more APM intensive than having a single raven in your army; and it will quickly dissuade such infestor trickery. Oh wait and then you can harass with them as well; indeed definitely not worth 2 supply.
@@eelcohoogendoorn8044 ". AA missile is a great spell"
Right man, those pesky zerglings with their massive armor are just such a threat to terrran, and same with those banelings with infinity armor too. Damn, why don't they use them some more indeed.......
Raven is simply not worth the investment in TvZ. Not to mention that the Zerg army is simply more mobile than the Terran one so even if AA missile hits, they can just run backwards and it was a wasted cast...
@@shadowpriest2574 zerg air is actually very tanky; and yes upgrades matter in general in the late game.
Sure often an AA is just a deterrent; but then again thats massively useful in the defence when prep and positioning is everything; and also huge in the offence; dont want to fight right now thats ok let me just snipe this base for free.
@@eelcohoogendoorn8044 Zerg air is very tanky ?
Right, except nothing that terran uses is affected much against air in that sense. For Vikings its a minor buff , against broodlords they use magic dmg , not physical and mutas are far too mobile for it to matter .
It would be so sick if this is a bio play with raven. But still, it’s a step forward
20:15 don’t forget about tanks imba the most highest range attack unit without delay of projectiles that reach target immediately
Yes, tanks are imba but when they are well positioned and ready.
But Zergs have imba queens which are on the same imbalance level as tanks.
@@anamorfoplasis yes Queens are umba, but they have nothing to deal with tanks
@@djiexn Right
I learned that the only way I can deal with tanks is Harstem's Hydra rush. They are not that scary to hydras then to roaches. Also could be morfed into lurkers later on.
@@abyrvalg_ Why are mass lings worse?
harstem video harstem video
thank u capt for another banger
I've seen a lot that kind of build here in the lower levels
when americans do their taxes on paper it's a big "middle finger" to the irs.
it's purely out of spite (cuz we do have stuff like turbotax)
you're giving them the middle finger by... providing pencil pushers with job security?
@@martinkrauser4029 they have job security anyway
@@martinkrauser4029 You literally have to turn in your taxes regardless? How does that make any sense?
You're just annoying them. The 'amount' of tax forms doesn't change. I'm sure they have a way to scan papers anyway.
@@totaldramagamer5521 "how does that make any sense" you're necessitating manual data entry. Why would you be sure they have a way to reliably scan submissions? Are you a computer vision expert? Do you work in state admin? No, there is no computer vision that can read tax submissions unsupervised.
No, the number of tax forms doesn't change but the labor required to process them does when you avoid using an automated IT system.
So no, you're not annoying anyone, you're literally creating jobs for the IRS. That person you're "annoying" wouldn't even be working there in the first place because the IT would take their job away.
So you're bloating your public admin and feeding what you hate just to make the following point:
"my time is worth less than the time of an IRS data entry monkey"
cutting off your nose to spite your face y'all are deeply ridiculous lmao
@@martinkrauser4029 A leaf could blow over into the White House lawn and they'll recruit another 40,000 IRS agents to tax the trees responsible for that leaf.
Here's how it actually works:
If tax numbers go up, more agents.
If tax numbers go down, more agents.
If tax stays the same, more agents.
That is the US government. Not this "better recruit to meet the demand" nonsense. Always bigger, no matter what, at a constant pace.
Why is it like this? Because it's America, and we can print more money than you can cut trees into that tax paper form you're hollering about.
You are both absurdly confident in the gov't to properly regulate its size to fit a by demand basis, and absurdly underestimating just how spiteful people can be to the tax system.
It's almost impressive.
--
I'll give you a bonus tip.
Check out any gov't office that doesn't involve collecting money... and you'll find they're understaffed to hell despite 'the work load clearly necessitating an increase'.
I wonder why...
Someone's gotta tell Lowko that a pro finally built one Raven.
My man leveled up
Wait until Harstem hears every house in the United states has a mailbox
There's only three ways to win in this game... be smarter, be faster, or cheat. And I don't cheat.
Great movie. Irons killed his role
@@benediktotto6191 Glad someone got the reference :)
Harstem's channel has become a hate terran channel and I find it awesome for some reason lol
Why dont more terrans make ravens in the mid-late game?
Lotta gas, requires a techlabbed starport, complicates micro.
They'd rather pump out vikings/medis with a reactor addon, use scans, save gas, and simplify army control.
If ur speaking of our ladder. They dont know how to use it.
What did ryung do with it? One AA in 10 min? Doesn't cut it. I think if u don't need interference matrix it's not worth the gas tbh
@@eliashaider6857 It still is a great harassing unit which can also kind of function like an oracale with less speed.
But as u said that wont rly cut it.
Just build a lib or 2 to harass^^
Most Americans do their taxes online. However if you have a basic return paper is still easier.
If Solar would quit pulling back lings in fights and let them do their work while microing his other units instead.. Multiple times he had this game in the bag..
A Raven is 100 minerals and 200 gas. A mule can mine 200 minerals. So if you can clear creep tumors in just two small area's, you have just gained more resources than you spent. Every time i see pro's scanning the whole map over and over just to clear creep i slap my forehead Captain Picard style. I get Raven's are difficult to control in your army, but even if it only saves you 2 scans and dies it's saved you resources.
The thing is Terran needs gas more than minerals
Shhhhh!🤫 They don't know it! Keep the secret, terran is already that broken
It's not saving resources though. Late game, when they're spamming scans, they already have resources banking, and they'll get those 200 minerals in time from SCVs. And they gain by not building a vulnerable unit, prone to getting itself killed, without a lot of genuine utility in the matchup.
@@cousinpatsey2471 the AA missile is a huge damage boost in all matchups, and detection is a big deal versus burrowed infestors
@@martinkrauser4029 it's a huge damage boost if your opponent doesn't just disengage and run for the duration. Which late game, most zergs will do.
Infestors, that's what the scans are for. A Raven is admittedly more likely to spot them, but scans are free and aren't taking away army supply.
is this already new patch ?
a very different terran player
I dont understand the lack of ravens. I get that they really dont NEED it, Terran has more than enough tools. Just keep it following, out of your army group. I suppose they f2 too much
Yeah Ravens are massively imbalanced. It's so funny how bad terrans are. They had to officially put it in the patch explanation. Terrans are too bad to use ravens the way other races use all their units, so we have to nerf infestor unburrow times. Terrans face palmed and faced the music, and one of them built a raven. I'm guessing it will be short lived, as guilt isn't the strongest motivator, and terrans didn't magically just get as skillful as the other races.
Harstem has used ravens some, and does it better than any terran. Terrans are usually good at telling their marines to move apart from each other and pushing T.
It's funny how terrans complain about being weak while they also complain about having not enough hot keys for the tools they have. All the while zerg and protons don't even have those tools.😅
Moron86, you sound just as daft as your name. The devs robbed the best units and 'tools' from other races and gave them to Zerg, like Mind Control, Irradiation, Disruption Web, while fortifying and improving all the existing tools they already had, like enabling burrow-move which is stealth with no mp cost, giving Zerg Queens who are tanky, powerful, cheap, anti-air with healing, and adding many units who can force one-sided losses on the enemy at zero risk, like Swarm Hosts and their free locusts or Broodlords with their free broodlings, and vipers with their fking abducts that renders all enemy heavy units useless.
In the meantime, Carriers somehow have to build weak-ass interceptors and pay for them too, archons are weak, phoenices weak, Mothership sucks (give back arbiters), dark archon got removed. Terran nukes got nerfed to the point nobody uses them, battlecruisers also useless, their whole end-game unit roster is useless. They finally made Cyclones viable for a few months, and now it's going back to the dumpster fire.
Yeah, what a sad state.
zerg literally has every tool...you can't gaslight people who know...Toss is lacking and obviously so
@@cavemantero how am I gaslighting anyone? Lmao.
What tools are you even talking about?
@cerber3260 a tool is something a person uses to help complete a task. Example: the unit called a raven, is a tool that terrans can use to disable carriers, battlecruisers, colossus, etc.
Like this comment if your a creature under the sea
Terran design is too strong mid-late. Game is not ballanced. Terran can turtle = no one can attack him... terran when attacking can drop u all his army with medevacs..
look like diamond game
Harstem: "Raven is so OP" Yeah, why don't we also nerf Ravens to oblivion?
Let's also make Siege tanks spend 50 minerals each time they siege up, while we're at it.
wouldnt matter, mines are much better than tanks anyway, and ghost will forever be the endallOpUnit off sc2..