So the demon slayer thing is kinda confusing because the author or someone of that caliber said the water effects etc where added only for effects, but then in the anime and manga it completely contradicts that statement because we can see Rengoku for example blocking Akazas attacks WITH the fire and Tanjiro literally shifting things with his water. So with Boruto 💀😭 also known as Filler Haven literally the whole show is filler basically like not even lying people try to cover it up and say “oh it’s anime canon” but a lot of people don’t realize anime canon is still filler because it’s not canon to the original source which is the manga.
Your boruto statement make no sense, just because they had to import more material in the anime than what the Manga, doesn't make it not cannon. There are anime movies that are not in the Manga and are cannon and no said what you stated.
@@Punnothebro but it wasnt like that, he slashed like one time and the flames stayed up blocking a barrage, also tanjiro literally broke his fall with the water.
The breathing arts in DS are just visuals. The author said, “swordsmen don’t actually unleash water attacks. People who see this just think they see and feel it.“
@@nell8821 From a guess, Rengoku was moving his sword to block it. It likely works similar to Giyuu's Dead Calm, it looks like Giyuu is just standing there but he is actually moving his arms so fast that they can't be seen.
Ok so how could zenitsu’s thunder clap and flash be heard from miles away like actual thunder. How does muchiro sneak up on kokushibo with his mist who has see through world.
The creator said the effects are fake, but some breathing styles actually create their element. The hybrid slayers use real elements since it's their bda, Rengoku used blooming flame undulation to block Akaza's air type and it actually hit the flame wall instead of his sword, and Sanemi uses ranged attacks.
I personally think that Kirito has the most plot armor. In the first season alone he was extremely op, died but came back to life somehow, and literally got hacks to beat the villain in the second half of the season. Kirito is the perfect example of plot armor.
I consider Kirito having the most plot armor. It was fine, if a bit annoying, to see how OP he was in the first arc, but that is explained by him being a beta tester and knowing pretty much everything there is about that game. But then, he's able to overpower the best players in other games that he's never interacted with despite playing for only a few days/weeks and THEN he's able to go toe-to-toe with a guy in real life that is using augmentations to boost his abilities.
It isnt THAT random. Hes strong in ggo etc because he alrdy Trained the sword before even gaming + he alrdy had a lot of experience thru a lot of other games so ofc he already spawns really strong into a New game
A good example to counter this argument irl would be SHROUD. My guy can hop on to any fps game and wreck the competition. It’s not necessarily outside the realm of possibility to have someone who can hop from game to game and instantly make it to the top.
@@calveryscave yeah but there’s also the fact that he beat a grown man who jumped him with a nife and for some reason, didn’t decide to just run them over and Call it an accident
When you look inside his room this isn't the first time he's played an MMORPG (obviously) as you said he beta tested the game and in the beta test he went all the way up to stage 8 which was the highest anyone meaning that in the 1st 8 floors he had much more experience when fighting bosses and NPCs than anyone else. Him getting two blades is also pretty random but that actually classifies him as being the strongest in SAO. You also have to remember that Kirito was playing for 2 years straight inside of that game meaning that he easily had more experience than most other people when it came to MMORPGs. Allowing to do everything he did past the first season of SAO. There's tons and tons more stuff I didn't include but just saying it makes sense.
That Boruto list is an alternate Boruto filler list There’s two filler list if you look it up If you read the beginning part of the that filler list It says it’s An alternate list Now I’ll be honest Boruto is not good but what Boruto has is anime cannon Anime cannon is not from the manga but still applies to the story The reason why I know this is because most of the eps in the 100’s is dealing with Urashiki and then goes onto Kara
The one piece pacing ( Original video) said he rather have filler because you can skip filler episodes. You can't skip 9 seconds of luffy intensely starting at a guy
Add on that when they do actually do Filler episodes they end up being fire Like the Uta Episodes, even the stuff with Boa on that random cola island. Filler pretimeskip was really good with arcs like G5 and the "Japanese strawhats"(Wano teaser trailer lmao) arcs. I'd much rather have more quality than watching Luffy High fiving a sumo guy for 3 minutes
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZU exactly bro, I remember the old pretimeskip filler they did and it being surprisingly good and how seamlessly they flowed with the story that I had thought they were canon
It was a big theory back then that Urahara is actually the main villain in Bleach. Even now, there are still people that think he is the final villain, lol. But not as much as back then. I remember on reddit everyone was theorizing that
I would love for someone to go through One Piece with a stopwatch and measure all the filler moments where they stretch out scenes, then add all those minutes together and find out how much filler episodes that would amount to.
I actually saw a post on this and that person actually did the math. If you took out the fillers including the stretched out scenes and awful pacing, One Piece would have about 30% filler. Which isn’t that bad actually.
Koraidon/Miraidon, while being the box art legendary, isn't actually a particularly rare Pokémon and you can't actually use it until the endgame. The real legendary hunt is the 4 legendaries from a fairy tale. Which actually is pretty interesting if you listen to the history lessons.
I personally don't mind filler, as long as it's the type that is considered "anime canon". Like it has to tie into the story and have major significance.
The Boruto Anime should not have a weekly release schedule while the Manga is mouthly and still ongoing, that is the main reason why the anime has some much filler. They need to change Boruto from a weekly release to a seasonal release, that way we can get better and more consistent animation and it would completely get rid of the filler problem the anime suffers from.
Should have been seasonal from the get go. Boruto should also have been narutos grandson/great grandson imo. This would give the nostalgia fans the happy ending for naruto while setting up an entire new story. Instead we watch our favorite characters of old get nerfed into the ground and power scaled by 10 year olds. Boruto could have been amazing. It's unfortunate.
For the Boruto filler The Naruto franchise is kinda the breadwinner for studio perriot So they make filler, that goes on tv in Japan Philippines, Indonesia, korea and north America to make money 🤑, they also sell merchandise etc, and they make A LOT of money from those filler and merchandise This money then goes to bleach, black clover, and when Boruto goes canon When Boruto goes canon though 🤣🤣🤣 🔥🔥🔥
You can't use (I mean battle with) koraidon and miraidon until the final battle the reason game freak did so the player can first of all traverse through an open world game and secondly so you can get more invested into the mon
Ok so thing about Sasuke and the dinosaurs is bcs Sasuke's Light Novel (Sasuke Retsuden) got turned into a manga and then got animated like a month later. Also Sasuke Retsuden happens before the events of Boruto
The water and fire breathing techniques are not there. It's just a device used to enhance the Battle and animation of the show and to add character development for the hashira. But in reality, if rengoku (was still alive) an needed to start a fire in the woods. He couldn't use his fire breathing techniques.
As a guy who have watched Boruto weekly since 2017 and recently rewatched it and read the manga, I can explain. 1) In these filler list they consider Novel adaptations as filler (even in Naruto filler list). There are good 50-60 episodes that are from novels. 2) Manga is monthly. There is not enough content to make episodes even if it had OP pacing. 3) Some arcs are literal prologues of canon arcs, they are not your typical "wtf will this contribute" arcs. There was one character who died in same chapter he was introduced, so they made a whole arc dedicated to him to flesh him out. 4) Mangaka himself said anime tells a more fleshed out story, with giving screentime to side-characters and world building. Kakashi haven't even debut in manga but he has his own arc and training scenes in anime. In conclusion, I think there are still fillers but these list are just very above they surface. I can say there are 30-35% filler but this list is just bad.
@Shonen Showdown I... guess that's fair, but it isn't really a pokemon until way later. Like it does just give it to you so there isn't any extra effort other than play the game, but you made it sound like you can just steamroll the game with the legendary at the beginning which isn't the case
5:53 manga spoilers. Jinbe gets low diffed by Zoro or Sanji. Jinbe is taking damage from a fang pistol, Sanji kicked Queen to another Island, also Jinbe’s block is a named move, meaning that his regular blocks aren’t as strong as his named one. Sanji or Zoro would low diff him, Sanji can just literally blitz him and one shot him, Zoro could just one tap Jinbe. Queen could react to hybrid Marco in base, yet he can’t react to base Sanji post awakening in his hybrid form. (Shout out to restless gambler, I used some of his points in his video go check him out).
4:07 you got a point there, even without the curse Demons in 7DS are shown to be *VERY* durable, like their darkness Manipulation is very OP. Like when Monspeet almost got decapitated, he looked annoyed like it was a minor nuisance. Also Chandler Actually having his head cut off and coming back like it was nothing. Not only that but the Demon Clan is the only one that was able to permanently kill a person that has drunk from the fountain of eternal youth, Ban who wouldn’t have come back if not for his dad saving him. Demons are OP as hell in 7DS, no wonder the Goddess Clan-who are suppose to be DC’s equal- needed help sealing them away from the other clans even after the DC was weakened after Meliodas left.
How Demon Slayer attacks work in terms of visual effects: Breathing style attacks- u can't see them but they still have intended effects, for example: you use fire breathing, you can still burn things or melt things Now , all and I say ALL Blood Demon Arts can be normally seen
in demon slayer the water and fire is just for effects so we can see differense betwen breathing styles, basicly saying that water breathing is a sword technique that imitates water, and to keep that in mind the breathing techniques does give the user some of a super human strenght speed and endurance
About that first part of filler vs pacing I still think filler is better because u can just skip it but with one piece ur kinda forced to just watch even when it’s slow
@Shadow Reacts yea for me i still watch the bullshit but its not like i enjoy the series to be honest the only wow moments were both OTSUTSUKI fights thats it
Garp is Mad trippin' is what's up. Also, Rob, it's likely a SWORD Mission. With Boruto, we already knew from the outset that it would be Filler Hell because of where the Manga started. Son Goku doesn't really have Plot advantaging him too much. Plus, he takes Mad L's like Luffy. Urahara Kisuke becoming a Villain is an Old-School Bleach Arc/Theory idea. It could've happened after the Thousand Year Blood War Arc. I desired a Central 46 Arc as well.
6:50 Not surprised, the manga is monthly, and the anime started pretty quickly. At this point it's easier to just take the filler as world building or something idk
The studio that making Boruto was rush because of the manga is only a concept at that time yet they making a movie about Boruto, and then they like Hiatus for 1-2 months, so when the manga is finally out for 6-7 chapters, they already animated it!
Apparently somewhere it was said that the filler in Boruto was 'canon', as it fills in the gaps the manga leaves behind? Like giving the characters the development they need and whatnot, expanding on the world and stuff like that. Dunno if its true though, but if it is? GyAAAAAAT DAMN, THAT FILLER COUNT IS INSANE LMAO
Love the hot takes videos 🙏🏾 But if we talkin‘ bout plot armor we gotta at least mention sasuke. I mean he died twice against killer bee (if not for help) and was out of chakra against deidara but was still able to summon manda,get inside and tank his C5 despite him not even being able to throw a kunai😂 on Top of that kishimoto just kept on blessing him with op dojutsu and hax that just so happen to be the exact Counter to all the opponents he faced🤷🏾♂️
So ik there's like 20 other explanations of Tanjiro's water breathing and sun breathing but too basically simplify it. The effects can not be seen and are not there but the characters can feel those effects of the things so basically the effects are like if the air around you tasted like chocolate pudding you would feel it but you can't see it.
Yo Rob you should watch the code arc and their also going on hiatus soon in April or after the code arc ends so when I comes back it might be seasonal and it might be going into timeskip the manga is very close to timeskip
With the pokemon thing you can't use korai Don and miraidon until you do an entire storyline and then battle it to catch it so you still have to grind just through a different way
Thank you for doing this I've been waiting for so long I can't believe you did it 👍 I'm sorry for doing this but can I ask what's your opinion about GohanBeast versus Goku ultra instinct
Currently, it looks like Toriyama said Gohan Beast was stronger but I don’t know if fighting Cell Max was a good indication of that. He needed help from Orange Piccolo and Goku UI would destroy Cell Max with little difficulty
Thank you for clearing that up because I was thinking Gohan beast was stronger than ultra instinct and ultra ego the speakers toriyama said it it doesn't make any sense to me and go on said in the movie that Goku and vegeta could not be felmax it doesn't make any sense
Ayo,that boruto filler is fu**ing crazy,like wtf is going on???and the fact that some people still say that filler is better than bad pacing is just nuts,like at least with bad pacinv you're still in action,but what's going on with boruto is just milking at this point.
The writer of Demon slayer had went out and said that the effects were fake. Nobody believed that, or liked it so everybody just decided not to consider it true since the effects can be used to their advantage, like that time he used the waterfall technique to save himself from a fall. So since the creator said it wasn't real, unfortunately the hard truth is that it is in fact fake. So he definitely wins the plot armor thing.
About One Piece. The thing is it has a low count of completely filler episodes but has more mixed filler-cannon episodes than any other Shonen series. Usually an anime episode adapts 2 or more chapters of a manga. One Piece consistently adapts 1 to 2 chapters never going beyond. It got to the point where they weren't even adapting a whole chapter in the dressrosa arc. Half of the runtime of the anime is padding. Either reaction shots, repeated flashbacks, added filler padding, longer OPs, recaps, etc... A good proof of this is One Pace. The equivalent of Naruto Kai. They cut down the anime to remove any non canon, recap, or extended reaction shots. This cuts down the episode count by 400+ leaving the One Pace version at only 400 and some episodes. So technically the One Piece anime has more filler than all other shonen series. The manga however, though paced poorly at times, fits the description in this video and is all canon material that establishes incredible amounts of lore.
When Tanjiro was fighting Ruri, lower moon five, his sword broke at the start of the sword. There was maybe one inch of blade left. You saw how it went right through Ruri’s neck as if it were full. Granted, Ruri did cut it off with hood webs, but why would he need to do that if there was not enough blade to chop the head off. If you look at form ten, the water dragon was what was destroying the strings
Boruto manga's new chapter releases every month, and there are 40 something pages in it, and they have to make one episode on one chapter, that's why there are so many fillers. Also the current canon saga in anime is the one in manga so there will be many fillers in it too. They had to start the anime after some time. They did it too soon
In the Mugen Train arc how did Rengoku not burn the train with his fire? I get where the Demon Slayer fans are coming with this but at the same time there are moments when either Ufotable or Koyoharu mess up the way the Breathing technics work. But for me I think it is there for effects.
I dont know why this is actually still an argument like the author has said thrmselves that breathing effects aren't real. There are techniques that are an exeption like I think Rengoku's last move creates actual fire but other than that most effects aren't real.
1. It depends on if the filler is enjoyable or not 2. I agree with Goku or Meliodas having the most plot armor between those characters 3. I personally think Zoro is the second strongest of the Straw Hats due to the narrative of him wanting to become the world's strongest swordsman. 4. I don't have any plans to watch or read Boruto anytime soon 5. I need to get back to playing Pokemon 6. Naruto, along with DBZ and Pokemon, were the first anime I've seen, so they'll always have a special place in my heart. 7. I will say that Helmeppo was personally trained by Garp, so he'll probably be able to fight off some of the Blackbeard Pirates. 8. Urahara being the villain instead of Aizen or more like Urahara and Aizen kinda switching roles in the story. 9. I'm glad I had seen the Funimation Dub instead of the 4kids one for One Piece back in 2007 on Toonami otherwise I probably would've not gotten into it or seen One Piece as a kiddy show. I prefer Shonen because I'm a sucker for action/sci-fi/adventure stories most of the time, but also love horror/thriller, mystery/suspense, and comedic/slice-of-life. Romance stories aren't really my thing unless it has other elements to them like in Kaguya-sama Love Is War. 10. Madara was a G lmao
I accually think Luffy joining the marines wouldnt be that unreasonable... Ohara Made a good Video about how Luffy would try to change the marines from the inside Out, joining sword etc. I'd for Sure wanna See that
If I had to come into scarlet and violet's defence, yes you get the legendary early, but it's only for transportation, you can't actually use it until u beat the post game.
The effects in terms of power are not there, like when tanjirou uses water breathing he doesn't produce water, but in the line of sun breathing the speed at which tanjirou moves his sword as he swings produces a lot of heat due to friction in the air making the sword red. this is shown as fire since the sword is black and if heated becomes red. Also Zenitsu can produce lightning as he moves extreemly fast producing an electric current
It's not stated in the manga, the author confirmed it. But, Manga legit contradicts it multiple times, we see Rengoku blocking Akaza's blows with fire, Tanjiro creating water and even manipulating it TO DEFEAT THE SWAMP DEMON, Muichiro using his breathing to blind his opponents, etc. TLTR: Author said they are not there, but manga and Anime says they are there.
2:41 in science breathing differently actually increases efficiency of heart rate and blood veins which allows Tanjiro's body to move in such a way that it looks like it's moving like the flow of water. So they are just effects but at the same time no, they are not just effects.
People only prefer filler over bad pacing because they can skip the filler lol. They wouldn't care if One Piece was 40% filler because they would act like those episodes don't exist, just like naruto lol.
from what i get tengen is the only one that has the effects cus there explosions but that does not make sense cus i know someone got burned or felt the heat from sun or flame breathing i dont remember which one it was. but still the effects do appear to be there
I will say Goku and ichigo have the biggest plot Armor. As much as I love bleach and the new anime arc was goated but u have agree ichigo does have a large amount of plot Armor. I mean he literally is a hybrid of all races which exist in bleach verse. Although hhis true power is still a mystery but he does have a lot of plot Armor. As for Goku we all know Goku legit gets a new powerup or transformation in every single arc. Every arc in db we see Goku unlocking a new ability or transformation.
The effects are real. When rengoku was fighting akaza he blocked his attacks with fire. Using a fire wall and blocking air type. And when we saw them just hitting his sword regularly he had a lot of knock back. And when using the fire there is no knockback.
The author said the effects are not real. But I disagree with the author 😂😂. The story contradicts this. 1. When Tanjiro first used breath of the sun, he actually burned Rui's threads. Rui even said the threads got burned. They weren't cut, they were burned. 2. Giyuu actually saw the butterflies from Shinobu and knew she was about to attack and so he responded. This happened in both the manga and anime. 3. Zenitsu actually moves at super speed in zig zag lines. Sometimes even basically flying. You can't discount that 3. Rengoku actually used his flame to block multiple attacks from Akaza. What I'm about to type is the strongest evidence, but it contains mild manga spoilers. It won't spoil the plot but it's worth noting. 4. There is a thunder breathing technique called Distant thunder that shoots actual lightning across a distance. 5. Sanimi created an actual whirlwind 6. The sickles from breath of the moon are actually visible. So I disagree with the creator
The author disagrees with you on that, so imma say the author's correct on this, I think they have a bit more experience with demon slayer than you, just a bit though
@@nani4249 Oh certainly 😂😂. I'm just saying the stuff I mentioned can only be explained by the magic being real. Until a proper explanation is given to something like Sanimi actually creating a real whirlwind with real effects across a distance, I'm gonna stick with my opinion 😂😂😂😂😂
disagree all you want, it's factually just a visual representation of breathing techniques... that's just it, the author contradicts the "logic" behind the power system they created but that's just bad writing, the canonical explanation still stands. You could say the elements displayed are just the "aura" that the swords emit through the breathing techniques. The demons tho, it's a different story.
@acnologia7529 I would have stuck with that explanation, but I saw actual demon slayers also do similar things with their breathing techniques and they were visible to other demon slayers and also had elemental effects. You can't tell me Mist breathing was combined with demon magic. After seeing that, I refused to blame the blood demon art. After all Kokushibo's blood demon art was something else entirely
In my opinion, the elements in demon slayer are real. I know the author came out and said that their were effects and usually I always agree with the author but this time no the author is just wrong. It may have been her plan to just make them effects but what was executed is completely different from the plan like rengoku blocking attacks with A fire wall or tanjiro saying he smelled or heard thunder from zenitsu and do remember Tanjiro has some of the best senses in the series so I doubt he mistake it for something else. So for your question, Rob, it depends on you personally. To me and because of all the things we saw that they are real, but it's up to you to decide.
4:00 To be fair, there's never really any fear about a MC dying, especially if it's a Shonen manga. The only time it becomes probable is near the end of the story or if there's a spinoff/sequel that isn't focused on a Goku, Luffy, Meliodas, Naruto, Ichigo. For example, good chance Luffy might die at the end of One Piece due to the poison from Impel Down (and from other poisons that he recklessly took in). Naruto could potentially be killed in Boruto later on, it just comes down to if they're willing to take the fans fury from it happening
Boruto filler isn't actually filler each episode kishimoto has given his insights to what happens, just consider each 'filler' episode canon, the list is only referring to what episodes are translated directly through the manga and the manga skips to much, do I believe half of the non manga episodes can be reduced of course, and it's a bit ridiculous but the episodes are actually canon and do help with the world building, you can't just refer to them as filler and drop them. Same for Naruto, if half of the Naruto fillers were canon the world building and the experience all together, kishimoto skips to much and doesn't explore nearly as much as he should.
urahara alone could possibly solo the bleach verse, and not just due to power, but due to how smart he is and his unpredictable strategies, this man can think of multiple different outcomes for scenarios and he'll always know which one will happen
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So the demon slayer thing is kinda confusing because the author or someone of that caliber said the water effects etc where added only for effects, but then in the anime and manga it completely contradicts that statement because we can see Rengoku for example blocking Akazas attacks WITH the fire and Tanjiro literally shifting things with his water.
So with Boruto 💀😭 also known as Filler Haven literally the whole show is filler basically like not even lying people try to cover it up and say “oh it’s anime canon” but a lot of people don’t realize anime canon is still filler because it’s not canon to the original source which is the manga.
I think the author made it so rengoku could block it just for the gist its like blocking a bullet with a sword kinda
Your boruto statement make no sense, just because they had to import more material in the anime than what the Manga, doesn't make it not cannon. There are anime movies that are not in the Manga and are cannon and no said what you stated.
too many plot holes would be made if it was just effects
@@Punnothebro but it wasnt like that, he slashed like one time and the flames stayed up blocking a barrage, also tanjiro literally broke his fall with the water.
Black Clover is an example of good anime canon that is technically ca no on to the manga
The breathing arts in DS are just visuals.
The author said, “swordsmen don’t actually unleash water attacks. People who see this just think they see and feel it.“
so rengoku vs akaza was really just effects
Then how did rengoku block attacks of akaza??
It contradicts your statement
@@_user0_ yes. Only demons have powers.
@@nell8821 From a guess, Rengoku was moving his sword to block it. It likely works similar to Giyuu's Dead Calm, it looks like Giyuu is just standing there but he is actually moving his arms so fast that they can't be seen.
Ok so how could zenitsu’s thunder clap and flash be heard from miles away like actual thunder. How does muchiro sneak up on kokushibo with his mist who has see through world.
The creator said the effects are fake, but some breathing styles actually create their element. The hybrid slayers use real elements since it's their bda, Rengoku used blooming flame undulation to block Akaza's air type and it actually hit the flame wall instead of his sword, and Sanemi uses ranged attacks.
I think the ground was scorched after Rengoku used 9th form but it's been a while since I saw the movie so I might be wrong.
7:34 "Hold up, Boruto fans" bro calling out to ghosts 😭
Boruto > naruto
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@@3clisp315 no u. Boruto is actually better but Naruto fans can't accept it
@@azrael_morningstar no way
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I personally think that Kirito has the most plot armor. In the first season alone he was extremely op, died but came back to life somehow, and literally got hacks to beat the villain in the second half of the season. Kirito is the perfect example of plot armor.
And the best example of insert isekai protag
Exactly. He literally ends up killing what I’m pretty sure was the Devil
Yes, we need more hot takes. Great content Rob!
I’m glad you enjoy it!
@@ShonenShowdown Please more hot takes they are your most fun videos for me to watch
I consider Kirito having the most plot armor. It was fine, if a bit annoying, to see how OP he was in the first arc, but that is explained by him being a beta tester and knowing pretty much everything there is about that game. But then, he's able to overpower the best players in other games that he's never interacted with despite playing for only a few days/weeks and THEN he's able to go toe-to-toe with a guy in real life that is using augmentations to boost his abilities.
It isnt THAT random. Hes strong in ggo etc because he alrdy Trained the sword before even gaming + he alrdy had a lot of experience thru a lot of other games so ofc he already spawns really strong into a New game
A good example to counter this argument irl would be SHROUD. My guy can hop on to any fps game and wreck the competition. It’s not necessarily outside the realm of possibility to have someone who can hop from game to game and instantly make it to the top.
Natsu: hold my beer
@@calveryscave yeah but there’s also the fact that he beat a grown man who jumped him with a nife and for some reason, didn’t decide to just run them over and Call it an accident
When you look inside his room this isn't the first time he's played an MMORPG (obviously) as you said he beta tested the game and in the beta test he went all the way up to stage 8 which was the highest anyone meaning that in the 1st 8 floors he had much more experience when fighting bosses and NPCs than anyone else. Him getting two blades is also pretty random but that actually classifies him as being the strongest in SAO. You also have to remember that Kirito was playing for 2 years straight inside of that game meaning that he easily had more experience than most other people when it came to MMORPGs. Allowing to do everything he did past the first season of SAO. There's tons and tons more stuff I didn't include but just saying it makes sense.
That Boruto list is an alternate Boruto filler list
There’s two filler list if you look it up
If you read the beginning part of the that filler list
It says it’s An alternate list
Now I’ll be honest Boruto is not good but what Boruto has is anime cannon
Anime cannon is not from the manga but still applies to the story
The reason why I know this is because most of the eps in the 100’s is dealing with Urashiki and then goes onto Kara
Thank you
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@Watcher which is why it’s bad. The manga is good but it’s not even that good of a story compared to early Naruto & other manga
The one piece pacing ( Original video) said he rather have filler because you can skip filler episodes. You can't skip 9 seconds of luffy intensely starting at a guy
Exactly bro exactly 😭😭😭😭them panels you look at for 2-3 seconds take half a minute
Keep it moving bruh😭😭😭😭😭
Add on that when they do actually do Filler episodes they end up being fire
Like the Uta Episodes, even the stuff with Boa on that random cola island. Filler pretimeskip was really good with arcs like G5 and the "Japanese strawhats"(Wano teaser trailer lmao) arcs. I'd much rather have more quality than watching Luffy High fiving a sumo guy for 3 minutes
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZU G8?
@@ImchautzuCHAUTZU exactly bro, I remember the old pretimeskip filler they did and it being surprisingly good and how seamlessly they flowed with the story that I had thought they were canon
One piece isn’t the dragon ball z series. Sorry, but nice try buddy
It was a big theory back then that Urahara is actually the main villain in Bleach.
Even now, there are still people that think he is the final villain, lol.
But not as much as back then.
I remember on reddit everyone was theorizing that
Garp fighting a yonko had me laughing my hardest in months, actually top tier meme
Helmeppo= Warlords
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3:44 ah yes, I'm glad you add mothers 3 music 👌🏾
Man, Rob thank you for bringing this series back i missed it 🙏
I would love for someone to go through One Piece with a stopwatch and measure all the filler moments where they stretch out scenes, then add all those minutes together and find out how much filler episodes that would amount to.
You can lookup a video I watched one a while ago about this exact thing
Thumbnail of the video says 95
@@FireCaT- not bad
I actually saw a post on this and that person actually did the math. If you took out the fillers including the stretched out scenes and awful pacing, One Piece would have about 30% filler. Which isn’t that bad actually.
@@TenYasha897 one piece should've been 600 episodes
That Garp skit had me rolling!! "Give me helmeppo"😂🤣☠️
Koraidon/Miraidon, while being the box art legendary, isn't actually a particularly rare Pokémon and you can't actually use it until the endgame. The real legendary hunt is the 4 legendaries from a fairy tale. Which actually is pretty interesting if you listen to the history lessons.
I was just going to sleep then you uploading i take it as a good night from you. Your videos are always entertaining. 👍
Dude who said all that stuff about Naruto was speaking to my SOUL!! Lol My SOUL!!
I personally don't mind filler, as long as it's the type that is considered "anime canon". Like it has to tie into the story and have major significance.
Rob face when looking at boruto filler count was hilarious lmao🤣🤣
The Boruto Anime should not have a weekly release schedule while the Manga is mouthly and still ongoing, that is the main reason why the anime has some much filler. They need to change Boruto from a weekly release to a seasonal release, that way we can get better and more consistent animation and it would completely get rid of the filler problem the anime suffers from.
Should have been seasonal from the get go. Boruto should also have been narutos grandson/great grandson imo. This would give the nostalgia fans the happy ending for naruto while setting up an entire new story. Instead we watch our favorite characters of old get nerfed into the ground and power scaled by 10 year olds. Boruto could have been amazing. It's unfortunate.
For the Boruto filler
The Naruto franchise is kinda the breadwinner for studio perriot
So they make filler, that goes on tv in Japan Philippines, Indonesia, korea and north America to make money 🤑, they also sell merchandise etc, and they make A LOT of money from those filler and merchandise
This money then goes to bleach, black clover, and when Boruto goes canon
When Boruto goes canon though 🤣🤣🤣 🔥🔥🔥
You can't use (I mean battle with) koraidon and miraidon until the final battle the reason game freak did so the player can first of all traverse through an open world game and secondly so you can get more invested into the mon
Ok so thing about Sasuke and the dinosaurs is bcs Sasuke's Light Novel (Sasuke Retsuden) got turned into a manga and then got animated like a month later. Also Sasuke Retsuden happens before the events of Boruto
The water and fire breathing techniques are not there. It's just a device used to enhance the Battle and animation of the show and to add character development for the hashira. But in reality, if rengoku (was still alive) an needed to start a fire in the woods. He couldn't use his fire breathing techniques.
Rengoku legit used 4th Form Blooming Fire to block Akaza's fists with said fire
@@ETProducts Just think of it as exaggeration.
I missed hot takes soo thank you for bringing it back
As a guy who have watched Boruto weekly since 2017 and recently rewatched it and read the manga, I can explain.
1) In these filler list they consider Novel adaptations as filler (even in Naruto filler list). There are good 50-60 episodes that are from novels.
2) Manga is monthly. There is not enough content to make episodes even if it had OP pacing.
3) Some arcs are literal prologues of canon arcs, they are not your typical "wtf will this contribute" arcs. There was one character who died in same chapter he was introduced, so they made a whole arc dedicated to him to flesh him out.
4) Mangaka himself said anime tells a more fleshed out story, with giving screentime to side-characters and world building. Kakashi haven't even debut in manga but he has his own arc and training scenes in anime.
In conclusion, I think there are still fillers but these list are just very above they surface. I can say there are 30-35% filler but this list is just bad.
11:40 this is probably the hardest ive ever laughed from this channel i didnt expect the guy to say that
Bro is so underrated, you deserves a million sub🔥🔥
You don't actually get to use the legendary in Scarlet/Violet until the end. They just serve as your ride
True but that’s the first time we’ve ever gotten one so early
@Shonen Showdown I... guess that's fair, but it isn't really a pokemon until way later. Like it does just give it to you so there isn't any extra effort other than play the game, but you made it sound like you can just steamroll the game with the legendary at the beginning which isn't the case
Love your video mate you should bring animesundays to anime hot takes tiktoks sometime bro
5:53 manga spoilers.
Jinbe gets low diffed by Zoro or Sanji. Jinbe is taking damage from a fang pistol, Sanji kicked Queen to another Island, also Jinbe’s block is a named move, meaning that his regular blocks aren’t as strong as his named one. Sanji or Zoro would low diff him, Sanji can just literally blitz him and one shot him, Zoro could just one tap Jinbe. Queen could react to hybrid Marco in base, yet he can’t react to base Sanji post awakening in his hybrid form. (Shout out to restless gambler, I used some of his points in his video go check him out).
4:07 you got a point there, even without the curse Demons in 7DS are shown to be *VERY* durable, like their darkness Manipulation is very OP. Like when Monspeet almost got decapitated, he looked annoyed like it was a minor nuisance. Also Chandler Actually having his head cut off and coming back like it was nothing. Not only that but the Demon Clan is the only one that was able to permanently kill a person that has drunk from the fountain of eternal youth, Ban who wouldn’t have come back if not for his dad saving him. Demons are OP as hell in 7DS, no wonder the Goddess Clan-who are suppose to be DC’s equal- needed help sealing them away from the other clans even after the DC was weakened after Meliodas left.
How Demon Slayer attacks work in terms of visual effects:
Breathing style attacks- u can't see them but they still have intended effects, for example: you use fire breathing, you can still burn things or melt things
Now , all and I say ALL Blood Demon Arts can be normally seen
in demon slayer the water and fire is just for effects so we can see differense betwen breathing styles, basicly saying that water breathing is a sword technique that imitates water, and to keep that in mind the breathing techniques does give the user some of a super human strenght speed and endurance
About that first part of filler vs pacing I still think filler is better because u can just skip it but with one piece ur kinda forced to just watch even when it’s slow
So you prefer a year full of filler than a year full kinda slow episodes you are trippin to the highest level goddamn bruh
Skip it after waiting a year gtfo 😂
This I'd dum if we had filler we wouldn't get to the good parts of the show till like 2025 or something
@Shadow Reacts yea for me i still watch the bullshit but its not like i enjoy the series to be honest the only wow moments were both OTSUTSUKI fights thats it
@griFFin you ain't thinkin' and are letting your bias delude. You JUST SKIP THE FILLER
Garp is Mad trippin' is what's up. Also, Rob, it's likely a SWORD Mission. With Boruto, we already knew from the outset that it would be Filler Hell because of where the Manga started. Son Goku doesn't really have Plot advantaging him too much. Plus, he takes Mad L's like Luffy. Urahara Kisuke becoming a Villain is an Old-School Bleach Arc/Theory idea. It could've happened after the Thousand Year Blood War Arc. I desired a Central 46 Arc as well.
I can tell from the title something bouta be hilarious
Been waiting for one of these! Love the content Rob. Keep it up.
shonen showdown and slykage my favorite youtubers good to know that they friends
It surely has been a while, but im glad it's back
Missed this series so much, thanks for another banger 🙏
More hot takes videos please they are the most fun to watch
6:50 Not surprised, the manga is monthly, and the anime started pretty quickly. At this point it's easier to just take the filler as world building or something idk
The studio that making Boruto was rush because of the manga is only a concept at that time yet they making a movie about Boruto, and then they like Hiatus for 1-2 months, so when the manga is finally out for 6-7 chapters, they already animated it!
Apparently somewhere it was said that the filler in Boruto was 'canon', as it fills in the gaps the manga leaves behind? Like giving the characters the development they need and whatnot, expanding on the world and stuff like that. Dunno if its true though, but if it is?
GyAAAAAAT DAMN, THAT FILLER COUNT IS INSANE LMAO
Good stuff rob love it bro
Thank you!
Bro i waited so long for this video, love for opinion ❤
Garp the goat lmao that skit was golden
Well tbf, you get Koraidon/Miraidon as ride pokemon, you can't actually use them until the post game
Love the hot takes videos 🙏🏾
But if we talkin‘ bout plot armor we gotta at least mention sasuke. I mean he died twice against killer bee (if not for help) and was out of chakra against deidara but was still able to summon manda,get inside and tank his C5 despite him not even being able to throw a kunai😂 on Top of that kishimoto just kept on blessing him with op dojutsu and hax that just so happen to be the exact Counter to all the opponents he faced🤷🏾♂️
So ik there's like 20 other explanations of Tanjiro's water breathing and sun breathing but too basically simplify it.
The effects can not be seen and are not there but the characters can feel those effects of the things so basically the effects are like if the air around you tasted like chocolate pudding you would feel it but you can't see it.
nah bro I lost it at "the grocery store arc"
"Bring me helmepo"🤣🤣
5:23 he is definitely faster than zoro. Also ur one of the few who respects Yamatos strength. Thank you
Great Video!
Yo Rob you should watch the code arc and their also going on hiatus soon in April or after the code arc ends so when I comes back it might be seasonal and it might be going into timeskip the manga is very close to timeskip
always makin bangers
With the pokemon thing you can't use korai Don and miraidon until you do an entire storyline and then battle it to catch it so you still have to grind just through a different way
Thank you for doing this I've been waiting for so long I can't believe you did it 👍 I'm sorry for doing this but can I ask what's your opinion about GohanBeast versus Goku ultra instinct
Currently, it looks like Toriyama said Gohan Beast was stronger but I don’t know if fighting Cell Max was a good indication of that. He needed help from Orange Piccolo and Goku UI would destroy Cell Max with little difficulty
Thank you for clearing that up because I was thinking Gohan beast was stronger than ultra instinct and ultra ego the speakers toriyama said it it doesn't make any sense to me and go on said in the movie that Goku and vegeta could not be felmax it doesn't make any sense
What I meant to say was gohan on send that vegeta and Goku could not beat Cellmax
Great video as always
“You have no fear that goku will pass away”
Goku has canonically died like 3 times
Rengoku walking at super speed can’t be just EFFECTS..
10:47 I watched naruto recently and I agree with most of what he's saying. Pain arc was peak
Bro said the d clan was lucky then pulled out a picture of ace😂😂
2:55
Muichiro blinded Hantengu with mist created by his breathing style.
Ayo,that boruto filler is fu**ing crazy,like wtf is going on???and the fact that some people still say that filler is better than bad pacing is just nuts,like at least with bad pacinv you're still in action,but what's going on with boruto is just milking at this point.
The writer of Demon slayer had went out and said that the effects were fake. Nobody believed that, or liked it so everybody just decided not to consider it true since the effects can be used to their advantage, like that time he used the waterfall technique to save himself from a fall. So since the creator said it wasn't real, unfortunately the hard truth is that it is in fact fake. So he definitely wins the plot armor thing.
About One Piece. The thing is it has a low count of completely filler episodes but has more mixed filler-cannon episodes than any other Shonen series. Usually an anime episode adapts 2 or more chapters of a manga. One Piece consistently adapts 1 to 2 chapters never going beyond. It got to the point where they weren't even adapting a whole chapter in the dressrosa arc. Half of the runtime of the anime is padding. Either reaction shots, repeated flashbacks, added filler padding, longer OPs, recaps, etc... A good proof of this is One Pace. The equivalent of Naruto Kai. They cut down the anime to remove any non canon, recap, or extended reaction shots. This cuts down the episode count by 400+ leaving the One Pace version at only 400 and some episodes. So technically the One Piece anime has more filler than all other shonen series. The manga however, though paced poorly at times, fits the description in this video and is all canon material that establishes incredible amounts of lore.
When Tanjiro was fighting Ruri, lower moon five, his sword broke at the start of the sword. There was maybe one inch of blade left. You saw how it went right through Ruri’s neck as if it were full. Granted, Ruri did cut it off with hood webs, but why would he need to do that if there was not enough blade to chop the head off. If you look at form ten, the water dragon was what was destroying the strings
After that fight with Katakuri, I'm never gonna be worried about Luffy dying
Boruto manga's new chapter releases every month, and there are 40 something pages in it, and they have to make one episode on one chapter, that's why there are so many fillers. Also the current canon saga in anime is the one in manga so there will be many fillers in it too. They had to start the anime after some time. They did it too soon
Studio Pierrot: So how much filler episodes do you want
Boruto: YES!!!
Tbf in the new pokemon games the legendary is only a mount for 98% of the game. You can only use it for fighting after the postgame
In the Mugen Train arc how did Rengoku not burn the train with his fire? I get where the Demon Slayer fans are coming with this but at the same time there are moments when either Ufotable or Koyoharu mess up the way the Breathing technics work. But for me I think it is there for effects.
I dont know why this is actually still an argument like the author has said thrmselves that breathing effects aren't real. There are techniques that are an exeption like I think Rengoku's last move creates actual fire but other than that most effects aren't real.
@@mysteryman9488 "Just that ONE move i like, other than that its not real !"
1. It depends on if the filler is enjoyable or not
2. I agree with Goku or Meliodas having the most plot armor between those characters
3. I personally think Zoro is the second strongest of the Straw Hats due to the narrative of him wanting to become the world's strongest swordsman.
4. I don't have any plans to watch or read Boruto anytime soon
5. I need to get back to playing Pokemon
6. Naruto, along with DBZ and Pokemon, were the first anime I've seen, so they'll always have a special place in my heart.
7. I will say that Helmeppo was personally trained by Garp, so he'll probably be able to fight off some of the Blackbeard Pirates.
8. Urahara being the villain instead of Aizen or more like Urahara and Aizen kinda switching roles in the story.
9. I'm glad I had seen the Funimation Dub instead of the 4kids one for One Piece back in 2007 on Toonami otherwise I probably would've not gotten into it or seen One Piece as a kiddy show. I prefer Shonen because I'm a sucker for action/sci-fi/adventure stories most of the time, but also love horror/thriller, mystery/suspense, and comedic/slice-of-life. Romance stories aren't really my thing unless it has other elements to them like in Kaguya-sama Love Is War.
10. Madara was a G lmao
Was waiting for another hot take vids
I accually think Luffy joining the marines wouldnt be that unreasonable... Ohara Made a good Video about how Luffy would try to change the marines from the inside Out, joining sword etc. I'd for Sure wanna See that
That Boruto Filler list is EGREGIOUS
11% or of the Boruto: Naruto Next Generations anime are filler episodes.
@@chandlermorgan708 wayyyy more than 17% lol
@@chandlermorgan708 17%?? that can't be, that was like 90% bro
From my understanding most of it isn’t filler it’s just anime cannon
If I had to come into scarlet and violet's defence, yes you get the legendary early, but it's only for transportation, you can't actually use it until u beat the post game.
Ay bro got Rizz stare.
Bro look like Rizzly bear🐻 .
The effects in terms of power are not there, like when tanjirou uses water breathing he doesn't produce water, but in the line of sun breathing the speed at which tanjirou moves his sword as he swings produces a lot of heat due to friction in the air making the sword red. this is shown as fire since the sword is black and if heated becomes red. Also Zenitsu can produce lightning as he moves extreemly fast producing an electric current
we forgetting that kirito literally died, then came back to life with plot armour
The elements in demon slayer are infact imaginary, it's stated in the manga
It's not stated in the manga, the author confirmed it.
But, Manga legit contradicts it multiple times, we see Rengoku blocking Akaza's blows with fire, Tanjiro creating water and even manipulating it TO DEFEAT THE SWAMP DEMON, Muichiro using his breathing to blind his opponents, etc.
TLTR: Author said they are not there, but manga and Anime says they are there.
@@thetitanhater so whose right? The author or a character in the manga?
+I'm pretty sure it's stated somewhere
@@thetitanhater dude rengoku is stopping air with air 👽 ur just saying what the characters / we in the show💀💀
@@GrimyApple2 The problem is that the character is MADE by the author.
2:41 in science breathing differently actually increases efficiency of heart rate and blood veins which allows Tanjiro's body to move in such a way that it looks like it's moving like the flow of water. So they are just effects but at the same time no, they are not just effects.
People only prefer filler over bad pacing because they can skip the filler lol. They wouldn't care if One Piece was 40% filler because they would act like those episodes don't exist, just like naruto lol.
from what i get tengen is the only one that has the effects cus there explosions but that does not make sense cus i know someone got burned or felt the heat from sun or flame breathing i dont remember which one it was. but still the effects do appear to be there
I will say Goku and ichigo have the biggest plot Armor. As much as I love bleach and the new anime arc was goated but u have agree ichigo does have a large amount of plot Armor. I mean he literally is a hybrid of all races which exist in bleach verse. Although hhis true power is still a mystery but he does have a lot of plot Armor. As for Goku we all know Goku legit gets a new powerup or transformation in every single arc. Every arc in db we see Goku unlocking a new ability or transformation.
The Sasuke figthing dinos is actually a adaptation of Sasuke's Canonical ligte novel
The effects are real. When rengoku was fighting akaza he blocked his attacks with fire. Using a fire wall and blocking air type. And when we saw them just hitting his sword regularly he had a lot of knock back. And when using the fire there is no knockback.
The author said the effects are not real. But I disagree with the author 😂😂. The story contradicts this.
1. When Tanjiro first used breath of the sun, he actually burned Rui's threads. Rui even said the threads got burned. They weren't cut, they were burned.
2. Giyuu actually saw the butterflies from Shinobu and knew she was about to attack and so he responded. This happened in both the manga and anime.
3. Zenitsu actually moves at super speed in zig zag lines. Sometimes even basically flying. You can't discount that
3. Rengoku actually used his flame to block multiple attacks from Akaza.
What I'm about to type is the strongest evidence, but it contains mild manga spoilers. It won't spoil the plot but it's worth noting.
4. There is a thunder breathing technique called Distant thunder that shoots actual lightning across a distance.
5. Sanimi created an actual whirlwind
6. The sickles from breath of the moon are actually visible.
So I disagree with the creator
The author disagrees with you on that, so imma say the author's correct on this, I think they have a bit more experience with demon slayer than you, just a bit though
@@nani4249 Oh certainly 😂😂. I'm just saying the stuff I mentioned can only be explained by the magic being real. Until a proper explanation is given to something like Sanimi actually creating a real whirlwind with real effects across a distance, I'm gonna stick with my opinion 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Problemsolver434 the author says they aren't real
disagree all you want, it's factually just a visual representation of breathing techniques... that's just it, the author contradicts the "logic" behind the power system they created but that's just bad writing, the canonical explanation still stands.
You could say the elements displayed are just the "aura" that the swords emit through the breathing techniques.
The demons tho, it's a different story.
@acnologia7529 I would have stuck with that explanation, but I saw actual demon slayers also do similar things with their breathing techniques and they were visible to other demon slayers and also had elemental effects. You can't tell me Mist breathing was combined with demon magic.
After seeing that, I refused to blame the blood demon art. After all Kokushibo's blood demon art was something else entirely
I enjoy this video! Lets have more gautlets!
In my opinion, the elements in demon slayer are real. I know the author came out and said that their were effects and usually I always agree with the author but this time no the author is just wrong. It may have been her plan to just make them effects but what was executed is completely different from the plan like rengoku blocking attacks with A fire wall or tanjiro saying he smelled or heard thunder from zenitsu and do remember Tanjiro has some of the best senses in the series so I doubt he mistake it for something else. So for your question, Rob, it depends on you personally. To me and because of all the things we saw that they are real, but it's up to you to decide.
I think in terms of most tragic/traumatizing backstory, for me, it's a toss between Haku, Kimimaro, Itachi, Sasuke and Kakashi.
4:00 To be fair, there's never really any fear about a MC dying, especially if it's a Shonen manga. The only time it becomes probable is near the end of the story or if there's a spinoff/sequel that isn't focused on a Goku, Luffy, Meliodas, Naruto, Ichigo. For example, good chance Luffy might die at the end of One Piece due to the poison from Impel Down (and from other poisons that he recklessly took in). Naruto could potentially be killed in Boruto later on, it just comes down to if they're willing to take the fans fury from it happening
My boy Huncho made the video
Boruto filler isn't actually filler each episode kishimoto has given his insights to what happens, just consider each 'filler' episode canon, the list is only referring to what episodes are translated directly through the manga and the manga skips to much, do I believe half of the non manga episodes can be reduced of course, and it's a bit ridiculous but the episodes are actually canon and do help with the world building, you can't just refer to them as filler and drop them.
Same for Naruto, if half of the Naruto fillers were canon the world building and the experience all together, kishimoto skips to much and doesn't explore nearly as much as he should.
urahara alone could possibly solo the bleach verse, and not just due to power, but due to how smart he is and his unpredictable strategies, this man can think of multiple different outcomes for scenarios and he'll always know which one will happen
But then gain, you gotta remember. There's Yhwach. There's Gremmy (spoilers). And there's Ichigo's son..
When I saw those red streaks on the Boruto episode list, I just thought it was straight-up abuse.
I love this man best videos keep it up dog ❤
Appreciate you!!