The Real Reason Why Female KPOP Idols Are Scared Of Korean Men
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many of you often ask us why we blur some words or cut out some words from the audio. the answer is very simple… we don’t want to do that but we have to in order to follow youtube’s guidelines. we had tried to upload this video like 10 times before (maybe even more) but we had to redo it multiple times because youtube kept demonetizing it claiming that it contains controversial issues that are TOO descriptive. we wish we could cover more of these serious topics on the channel, but to do a 16-minute long video takes daaaays and it results in being demonetized most of the time. it’s very frustrating but there’s nothing we can do about it. it’s also sad how there are literal predators on youtube and that’s “okay” but drawing attention to the issues women go through is apparently too “controversial”. i hope that at least some of our viewers will appreciate this video and understand that if we could, we would use proper words to describe these issues and not censor them. after like the 10th upload, we lost any hope with this video and i expect it will probably get flagged in a couple of hours but well at least we tried. love you all!♥
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I'm that 100th like
"too descriptive" feels like an easy way to silence people lol
First I want to say that I love you doing this videos to create awareness, specially when so many people romanticize Kpop, however, nobody should blur this words.. thanking to blur negative words is bullocks.. we should talk about those things openly and call things how they are to actually be able to push for awareness and change.. hiding things just to protect sensitive people doesn't help at all. One thing is to control people who misuse those type of words to actual hurt, bully, or spread hate, BUT NOT TO HIDE THE TRUTH WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CREATE AWARENESS OF THIS THINGS. SHAME ON TH-cam TO TRY TO SOLVE NOTHING THE EASY WAY WITHOUT THEM TACKLING THE ACCOUNTS THAT ACTUALLY ARE DANGEROUS.
Korean culture, Korean food and K-pop are being embraced around the world these days, but korea’s cultural issues are rarely discussed. The intense hatred of feminism to the point where women are bullied to suicide, the Nth room scandals, xenophobia/racism… Rather than blind worshipping of Korean things we need a balanced education and view.
We need to boycott them. Balance isn't enough. If they're being extreme with their violence, letchery, racism, then we need to hit them where it hurts - in the bank.
Facts
I'm getting more and more surprised to see so much similarities between Korea and my country, everyday is a new shock 😔
Let's be honest. Boycotting does jack shit. There will still be consumers. Even if it becomes big, a publishing company will push a fake apology . Boycotting also causes a ton of indirect damage. Best action is pushing administrative action through government action. This is for South Korea to solve. I am a South Korean. As such, boycotting really caused problems for my friends. Some of my friends got cut off from sales companies because something boycotted something else. Also, feminism from South Korea highly differd from Western feminism. South Korean feminism at least, is really radical. Much so that they actively make threats against Korean men. They downplay the role of South Korean military draftees and telling them to kill themselves numerous times and actively destroying public welfare benefits for military servicemen. South korean people aren't anti feminist in terms of western terminology. There are many articles about this so I suggest you take a look.
With K-pop and Korean culture being spreaded all over the world like a virus, many especially in the west don't know that dark and sad truth about the K-pop industry or how it's different from Hollywood.
In the K-pop especially female idols, are expected to have a cute, clean, and precise image. Female idols have little to no freedom to express themselves and be who they are. Female trainees are forced to follow a lot of strict rules under the dictatorship of there companies. Rules like no dating, no drinking, no smoking, no driving, no tattoos, not allowed to be friends with someone from the opposite sex, strict diets, need permission if they want to do something or change your physical appearance, etc.
As a foreign woman currently living in South Korea, a lot of this pertains to non-idol females and especially to foreign women as well. I've been here for two years and have had several guys try to follow me and it had happened to other women I know as well. Many males will leer and get too close to you. Though crime is low here, sexual assault isn't. Women aren't really considered "victims" and are rarely heard. I am very cautious of men especially when there are a group of drunks. Being drunk is a great excuse for assaulting a female, I'm not joking.
Not just females only but males too.
Sexual assault is a crime and should be recognised as such by Korean law. But the Korean judicial system is trash.
@@Ri57490 I couldn't have said it better! I agree!
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 10 thumbs up
true cuz my friend used to work there and she said that she had to put men shoes and other stuff on her house to make it looks like she’s not living alone
Hyuna is such a legendary queen love her so much the things she’s probably been through is so heart breaking she was so young (15) and exploited so much.
Thats why she deserved to have a bf who truly loves her like dawn 💖
I bet she got raped and had to do many sexual things to men and she got forced a lot which is incredibly sad and disgusting but at least she has a very good and loving boyfriend now and both of them really love each other and he really protects her! I‘m happy for her
Yes!! Hyuna was a victim! She is a queen! 💕
BRUH I DIDNT KNO HYUNA went thru all this 😩😩😩. I know there are female actresses who went thru this though
@@shambhavisingh2505 this
I feel so sorry for Hara that poor soul had such a tough life.Her mother who abandoned Hara and her brother at a young age came out of nowhere after her death just so that she could claim inheritance to her property. There was even a robbery st Hara's house after her death. From her mother leaving them at a young age, having a pyscho ex boyfriend, to maintaining an easy looking but full of toxicity and darkness idol, life she has suffered way too much. I hope she's in peace now away from this toxic world with Sulli her soulmate. This world didn't deserve them.
My poor Hara T_T
I'm certain that Hara and Sulli are in heaven now and they are happy and well. They did have a very tough lifetime. They will both grow and develop to much higher levels. At a certain point both of them will be able to face the same exact events and circumstances and not feel any pain, fear or suffering. That takes growth, evolution and time. We all get to that point eventually. God bless them. And all of the toxic lost persons on planet earth too.
I miss her and sulli so so much oml… 🙁
And some people still think k-pop and entertainment industry in general is sunshine and roses all the time, the pretty exterior truly hides an evil interior, hope young fans will be more cautious and are not swayed easily by the deceiving glamour of this world.
@@BELIEVER78989 Almost all businesses/companies have an evil interior. It is only a matter of degree. Not paying an employee a fair wage is a huge evil and almost all companies in the world do this. Taxing people too much is a huge evil. And most governments do this. Most people don't truly care about strangers, the homeless and the poor, even if they SAY they do. Evil is simply a lack of love which leads to people experiencing suffering. Expressing real love leads to the experience of joy, peace and freedom. Love's nature is to give unconditionally and it doesn't have negative judgements/thoughts about anyone. It is completely non-judgemental. And it is always warm and affectionate. And yet always stands up for what is right and harmonious for all. It is strong and kind and lasts forever. It's within each of us. Evil and negativity comes for our egos. Love and positivity come from our higher nature.
I think the most alarming part of this video is that 79.7% of Korean men admitted to have abused a girlfriend during the dating period. This literally means that more also partook in this if 80% wasn't bad enough. Absolutely disgusting.
yup that's high 4 of 5 men abusing their gf was alarming
It's more alarming to me because there are non-Asian female fans, who will excuse it as "their culture" or "cultural differences". Things like ableism, colorism, misogyny, fatphobia, body-shaming and other discriminatory practices as "their culture".
And I'm like "Ma'am... Where is your pride? Where is your self-esteem?"
And a fact even worse is how they accept it so casually as if it´s no big deal.
음... 잘못된 정보 같은데
나는 태어날때부터 지금까지 계속 한국에서 산 한국인이야.
한국에서는 페미니즘의 의미가 많이 변질되어서 페미니스트들이 그런식으로 잘못된 정보를 퍼트리고 있어...
적어도 한국 상황에 대해 정확하게 알고 그런 이야길 해주지 않을래??
@@donardodavinci6126 I hope that them saying they did it is a sign of realising they did something wrong and hopefully try and behave better in the future......
on the other hand, the amount of female kpop fans who dream about dating korean guys is scarry considering those numbers.....because Asian countrys in generell see woman/ and especially foregin woman as second class humans (source: In Asia living womans)
Now u know why irene is scared of men. Stop hating over her and start hating on these nasty men.
I never understood why people are criticizing her for hating men. Can we blame her? i guess not. She`s so beautiful and I don`t want to know how often she gets se*ual harrassed by them per day. I live in a country where women are treated better but even where i live, the most beautiful women gets the most harrassment wherever they go (or almost wherever they go). And when I see this, I`m always glad that I`m ugly. Thinking about Irene, I get very very scared of her.
@@Sheepy16able yes at least someone understood this.
Maybe she should stay away from men if she is that uncomfortable.
@@Sheepy16able I don’t think she is that beautiful but beautiful or not, no one deserves to get harassed and disrespected regardless of gender.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj the fact that you are telling women to stay away from men and not telling men to behave themselves tells that u are a misogynist
And another sad thing is Korea's law is weird. Many SA perpetrators receive a very light sentence.
Sad. California has the Nicole Brown Simpson laws that protect victims and numerous programs to support them afterwards. Progress is hard, but it happens.
just look at Japan's r**e laws.... they're from like the 1900s and i believe in SK r**e in a marriage will be decided by the court......there isn't a law saying it is illegal. Even in third world countries they have better requirements.... at least where we live, it is good to know that when it happens it is punishable versus it being a "depends on the situation and the proof, and what you where wearing, and if he/she was drunk, and if you denied her/him intercourse ..." it's a effing joke 🤮
Probably because the higher ups like presidents do it too I’m 100% sure they do stuff behind closed doors and pay the people to shush them
It still angers me to this day thay Goo Hara's ex is still alive, free, and his business is going well. I don't care about justice or trials. I just want him to suffer
As someone who has been physically assaulted by a men just like her, i want to believe that a higher force will give them big Karma, if not during their life time, hopefully in the afterlife.
Maybe karma is biting at him?
Trust me Karma is real! I have seriously experienced it so many times. No matter bad or good karma, you will always genuinely get back what you deserve and it might not be tomorrow or next year but someday for sure it will be!
@@roselamoure PREACH
maybe that’s a bit much, but punishment should definitely be given, life sentence at most
It’s genuinely disgusting when you hear these stories, the ones specifically about older men preying on young girls. The power of celebrity giving these guys the belief that they’re untouchable, and unfortunately with laws in South Korea being what they are - a lot of the time they are. It’s not just on these brave women to come out and tell their stories, as men - it’s on us to call out this shitty behaviour so nobody feels comfortable acting this way too. Hopefully, we see bigger changes in society as a whole so women can feel much safer 🙏
It goes both ways as powerful women have harassed young male idols too. It should be about protecting everyone regardless of gender.
What a simp
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj yes I agree
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
Jesus. You’re a broken record.
Far more women are abused than men.
Far. Far. Far more.
@@powbobs So? Don't act like that females are only being abused. (YES, THEY ARE ABUSED FAR FAR MORE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT MAN CAN GET ABUSED OR BEING PREYED.)
You know what frustrated me the most in the kpop industry? The double standard. Look how men k-idols do some disgusting shit, they can still be successful with their career, on the other hand, if women did something very little wrongful action ( most are just actions that were misunderstood, like having a resting btch face) will get hate train immediately and will potentially ruin their careers.
LOUDERRR
Louder for the people in the back!
the fucking double standard is so disgusting, why is it that women get treated way worse in the kpop industry
Yep if their "Oppa" is doing something silly its cute. But if a female idol does that .... she is automatically a "Pick me" girl.
@@sidney6522 exactly
"A WOMAN Brought You Into This World Therefore You Have No Right To Disrespect One."
- Not Thanos
It depends on which woman as some don’t deserve the respect.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj But that does not mean it is right to harass
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj basic respect is a human right, and you know it. This is why respectful people don't go into other's personal space without their consent or even when we're in public, we say 'excuse me' when asking a stranger what time it is - we don't want to impose which shows that we respect people, even of we don't know them.
Of course if people do evil things, such as murder, we can lose respect for them.
@@binitakhatowal8140 Exactly but my point is that it should NOT be a gender thing as everyone regardless of gender deserves respect, especially if they earned it. Are you saying that it is ok for women to harass men then?
@@Ri57490obviously but my point is that it should not be a men or women thing only.
Honestly this is so messed up. I am not asian but where I'm from a lot of girl girl ab***d and men make them think that it's their fault for not being "good" enough. Thanks for bringing this up.
Damn.. that’s horrible
Where you coming from ?
I think it's the same in every country. And that is so ducking sad..
India????
@@ruparoy8135 India is in Asia
They said they are not Asian
@@ruparoy8135 fyi India is in Asia and Indians are asians
This is one of the reasons I support female idols more and have them as role models rather than male idols...Actually everyone says I'm weird because I love,respect, appreciate them so much and that the weirdest thing is that I'm not crazy over male(I mean a huge fan) idols..I support and cherish female idols cause I can understand the dangers they may be going through day by day.Girls were always looked down upon and victims of mostly male attackers.Sonetimes people critisize female idols when they talk harshly to males but the funny thing is that nobody knows what happened behind the scenes.i believe females around the world are trying to claim their rights as they should and they are working hard to break the stereotypes surrounding the word female.I hope everyone will once understand that females are still going through a lot of prejudice bit that doesn't mean that we should give up it's them who have to give up on their disgusting behaviours and thoughts
Your reason of supporting female idols only are not doing them a favor. That means you are supporting the shitty companies behind them, and condone whatever the companies make them do to profit. This is the reason I don’t support female idols because the companies see them as money maker. They are exploiting them by doing sex appeal concept wearing as little clothes as allowed. Even the biggest group BP are being used as models to make money, sometimes I even forgot they are Kpop group.
@@hoanhuynh7059 but not supporting them is an idiotic move tho. if that's the only they have to fullfil a dream, so they're supposed to have to go through all of this and still get no support? are u serious?
I'll be forever a gg stan. no matter who's behinf them. they deserve recognition.
I'm sure that boy group members are harassed too. There was a video of Jungkook when a manager hit him. We can't imagine how many times it's happening when there aren't cameras around. I saw a few clips about Taemin in Korean shows, when men became crazy for him. Those men wanted to be funny, but actually they were cringey. Jimin from BTS is functioning as a human shield. He let the reporters hug him, so they don't touch the others. There are those fans, who ship same sex members together and want to "protect" them. There are so many way to hurt the idols.
@@ridita5221 I totally agree with that too.What I wanted to hilight in my comment was that some times when your a girl society can be harsh some times(it can also be quite harsh to men too)(the difference is that since "ancient" times males had more rights than women and stuff ...) And in my case since I am a girl and my fav bands are mostly girl groups I'm called a bunch of names like gay and stuff like that....Actually it's quite depressing to witness people judging you by just one interest or one thing they know about u.(my sisters and family members were one of those people...).Well anyways I wanted to say that I agree with you too😉
@@hoanhuynh7059 Actually I am not financially good enough to buy merches neither to go to concerts I just watch videos🤣
AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY WOMEN NO LONGER WANT TO BE MARRIED OR HAVE KIDS..
Exactly
Exactly
1:08 reading that is one of the reasons I still haven't finished or started reading Jessica Jung's YA novel, Shine. The story is inspired by her experiences as a KPOP Idol but I couldn't get past the second page because it was just traumatizing and triggering for me as a fan who basically saw/lived the events on the other side. Yoona's experience reminds me why I'm still on the fence about reading the novel. The stuff that female idols have experienced is not right. They shouldn't be experiencing that at all.
things are a bit different now
@@Ara-fy7ml maybe alot worse in some ways
@@babykookietae yeah
@Erin Lee is it in English? I would love to read it.
@Holly what’s the book called? I might order it and read it.
The reasons why I can't question Irene's/ Rosé and others attitude with men.
Same when I was watching this video I were thinking about rose and Irene.....
I don't know what they went through to the point they're scared
And "Cookie" by New Jeans is just going to be overlooked too. Can we please stop sexualizing children... like I am so disgusted over these companies
"There's nothing more dangerous than a boy with charm."
- Christina Aguilera
Nope , humans are
@@worthlesss1527 Humans who's feelings are hurt
@@LovelyKissess you know humans are kind of scary with feeling or without one
No offence btw
Same goes for women.
Why does this not have more views, it brings things to light about serious topics and issues and hopefully these people get done for can't believe I used to be huge fan of these idols keep doing these videos girl 👏
Exactly 👏👏👏
because the video was released only 2 hours ago 🤷
That’s exactly what I thought
It is because there are already plenty of even darker videos about this topic already.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj There's never enough 😊
I've been digging in deep on the darker side of kpop, simply because it's usually shown as glitter and gold leaving a lot of people myself included thinking it's an easy cake walk. Reality check, it isn't and this video is a fragment of proof but there's a lot more out there so go educate yourself please. Not trying to be rude by the way. ❤
Truth can never be rude 👏
Exactly I feel really bad for the naive people
You should watch more videos as this is just a tip of the iceberg. It is also not just a female issue as boys/men endure it too. There were reports of the wife of a CEO sexually harassing young trainees boys who were underage. Women can harass men too so it is not only men doing it to women.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj look when it come to men no one care about that 😆 I gave 1st like for your cmt 👍
K-pop industry is not entertainment industry it's Exploitation of children industry 😡
I've always wanted to be a kpop idol after seeing this I'm not sure if i still want to
Same...
You can
@@Ara-fy7ml Yes they can but it isn't that easy, nor is the chance of being in one of the bigger entertainment companies. That in itself is rare, even more rare if you don't fit the beauty standards. That's the harsh reality.
Edit: It's also financially straining, if you don't come from an affluent background you're going to end up owing your company sometimes for years. It's for things such as studio time, daily necessities and even food to name a few. This is partly why some companies go bankrupt, leaving their idols without payment for all their hard work.
@@aestheticcat8976 most K-pop idols don't fit this KBS and still get praised
Don’t. The Kpop industry or rather the idol industry is so corrupt.
Korean society is just so conservative. In Korea especially female idols are expected to have a cute, clean, and precise image. Female trainees have stricter rules to follow than male trainees. Strict rules like no dating, strict diets, no tattoos, no being friends with male idols, need permission if they want to change their physical appearance, etc.
For example, Twice looks so happier in there US concerts than the one they had in Korea. In the US, Jeongyeon didn't get judged by her weight, Chaeyoung got to freely show off her tattoos, Sana got to be sexy when she was rollin in Oakland, etc. They could never do this in Korea or any Asian country in general.
The more artists from SK are signed by Western agencies, and enjoy the freedoms you mentioned, the more they will demand the same freedoms from the local agencies. Progress is hard and slow, but it happens.
@@tada8092 In Korea, idols must have a certain image in order to appeal to fans and the general Korean public. They have little to no freedom. But once idols are outside of Korea or Asia in general, they have more freedom to express themselves and be who they are.
@@StayCalmStayFocused interesting take...and very true ...conservative doesn’t mean being abusive
@@Hopes.angelita No it isn't. It's just that women in the K-pop industry don't have the right to express themselves and be who they are. They are forced to have a certain image in order to appeal to fans and the general Korean public. It means having a perfect body, no showing off tattoos, perfect outfits, certain personality, etc.
@@StayCalmStayFocused They can't stand up and fight back
I think it applies to all women in general in South Korea....it's is so disturbing 😳 ,am so mad that there are no extremely strict measures to peaple who always harrased women,the whole weird way they eventually let it be,to think some one is look up to them yet there creeps...this isn't ok....this is sick
This is extremely scary, especially for younger female idols! This is an industry where both male and female idols are extremely vulnerable to a lot of harassment, coersion, etc. They should all be careful!!!
Yet female idols get demonised and bullied for "hateing men" and being feminist (nothing wrong with that).
I do think hating men is too far but yeah I don't get why Korean men hate feminism so much🙄
@@jungxi2729 those men are throwing a tantrum because women want equality. When people (e.g men) live in a state of privilege, they think that equality is oppression.
@@Ri57490 right, femimism is advocacy of women's rights in the grounds of equality of both genders, but these Korean men think it is men hating, like??
@@jungxi2729 I meant that there was nothing wrong with being a feminist.
@@jungxi2729
Did you not watch the video?
About 80% of Korean men admit to physical abuse against women.
That’s disgusting.
At some point even male K-pop idols are scared of Korean MEN , lets take Lee Taemin as a example whenever he goes to any variety shows the men hosts of the shows always try to make him uncomfortable because of his feminine looks , there has been just too many incidents like this like touching his butt , his shirt off etc whatever happens he never complains it is usually Key , Minho , Onew and Jonghyun (the other SHINee members) who try to defend the hosts , but when he is in a SuperM or Solo interview he seems totally uncomfortable and he is not the only male idol with feminine looks to be made sure to feel uncomfortable there are more like EXO's Baekhyun and Suho , NCT's Taeyoung , etc.
Ooh, that’s interesting. And the fact that no one in SuperM didn’t care is sad 😔
I've definitely seen a show or two where the hosts were soooooo creepy and touchy. Gross.
@@SFGal9 Men on a Mission is a good example of a bunch of sleazy scumbag hosts ogling both the male and female guests
Ive noticed in general, in Korean culture, Korean men are more touchy feely with each other than in the West. Theyre always in each others spaces, you see this in every boy group interaction. Stop looking at every culture through a Western lense thinking everyone should be like us. If the men in the West were more comfortable with each other and not think every touch is "gay" we'd probably have a more civil society.
@@susiex6669 It's fine being a touchy person in general, but if someone clearly expresses that they don't want you touching them like that you should leave them alone.
It’s crazy how these guys can legit admit to developing romantic feelings for underage girls on TV! And not suffer any consequences. Also YG’s situation makes him no better than a sasaeng-in fact it DOES make him a sasaeng
Personally, I viewed the Leeteuk thing as a fanservice moment as opposed to him expressing actual feelings.
@@lornam1142 sure. even if that was the case its still disgusting an inappropriate so what are you defending here.
@@penultimania4295 If my scenario is the case, then it’s not inappropriate. Its joking around.
@@lornam1142fan service?
@@lornam1142oh nvm
these "men" are walking around freely as if nothing happened, while Ilhoon is in jail because of weed... I'm deeply disgusted and grossed out
I was gonna study there for college but when I found out about Their huge hidden camera problem thing they have there some months ago it’s turned into a huge NO. When I was researching this I also found out that a lot of women to fight against this they have these red cards that will show if there any cameras if you look through them but it’s a real shame that it even got to that point seriously. There need to be way more media coverage on this.
This happens everywhere in the entertainment business not just in Kpop. You hear about it all the time in America even in other professions. America’s law used to not protect women either, but people change it. What need to be done is Kpop fans need to stop criticize female idols when they gain weight and etc. Companies use them to profit with sex appeal and etc. when you are female supporting companies who do shitty things you are not doing them a favor. How is it people still don’t understand they are the ones who allow that kind of behavior? If companies keep making profit out of it, nothing will change how female idols are treated.
Exactly and it happens to males too and not just females.
Betcha it isn't as common with males as it is with females.
@@teresahurlstone You may think that as men who do get harassed are too scared to speak up since people would make fun of them.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
The number of men being abused is tiny compared to women.
Stop with the repulsive whataboutism.
@@teresahurlstone You should look up Johnny's Entertainment/Johnny's & Associates, that was alleged sexual assault on young males.
If we want to reach true gender equality, it's time to stop labelling victims as male or female or LGBTQIA+ and just call them victims. True, majority are likely female but you can't say it happens more to females as a way to imply the other victims are less victimized. Victims are victims no matter their gender. Of course the majority will be females because females are biologically disadvantaged. There are all kinds of bad people in the word and gender is not always relevant when it is actually a power imbalance that causes this to occur.
It's tough being a female
And then they say Females are FEMINIST as if it's a crime
And says what females do not go through difficulties in there countries or just in general
It’s hard to be male too. Women get privileges that men don’t get too. Like the women don’t have to serve in the military while the men do. You get some you lose some.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj Bruh
When serving in military became a struggle
Korean men take it as pride
Ur all comments are biased towards men and against women
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj I'd rather live as a male in South Korea even if I have to serve in the military, because its done in 18 months. Korean women have to worry for their lives and protecting themselves from men their entire lives. It must be exhausting and stressful.
A Female can be any animal. It's tough being a WOMAN. Not female.
it's all so terrifying. It's truly like sistar is saying: STAY HOME and lock your windows and doors. be safe!
Are interact back then?
@@visualbeauty3427 sorry what is your question? are what?
I remember that interview and honestly I agree with them
@@ZeeZee958 some men are just so creepy
@@Kx____ yep
Please also do why korean men are so sensitive when female kpop idols makes unintentional signs which makes them think they hate men?????
Ikr
bcuz their masculinity's as fragile as my great grandma's vase? duh.
@@homeland1128pfft
It was a while back, but on Get Real, I remember BM and Peniel discussing this issue with Ashley and I believe her friend Joan was there as well, it opened the guys' eyes, BM even asked Ashley if she carried protection like pepper spray, then they had a discussion as to whether Mace was legal in Korea, I have to go back an rewatch it though.
(Edit: Joan was not in the episode, but it was Episode 1 of Get Real)
Yeahh I saw that too atleast they know and want to take care of the situation it’s so sweet of BM
A recent and sad case of CEO’s taking advantage of young idols (can’t temper their ages but they were just barely adults and most likely were underaged when it started) is the group Yellow Bee. Such a sad and tragic story. I really hope the group gets the help they need and doesn’t let what happened to them diminish their love for performing
There are always pros and cons of doing something. But nobody deserves this.
What I think about this issue is that you’re an absolute hero and legend for giving voice to these problems and not mincing words while doing it. We can support our idols but also shine a light on the problematic spots to make things better.
I noticed from watching videos of kpop idols (usually fan made) that every now and then you see things of men just totally disrespecting female kpop idols. I saw one clip of a show where there were three MC's (I think) two men and one girl. As they started walking towards the camera, possibly for a break, one of the men turned around and full out punched the girl in the arm. The two men continued walking and the girl stopped holding her arm and trying to fight off tears. It doesn't even matter how big the idols are, I've seen times where even a member of BlackPink has been treated badly on shows. Plus what I saw were just little things, I can't imagine how some female idols are treated off camera.
A real man knows how to respect a woman, because he knows the feeling if someone would disrespect his mother.
not just that. men should simply respect women because they’re people just like them.
I wish men and women respect each other not because their mothers or fathers,but because we' re all human beings that deserve respect and dignity.
@@junodovah2323 yall confusing respect and decorum.Respect is earned not given automatically but you need to treat people with a base level of decorum
Solid argument 👏 Respecting people bc they are like your Mama, and not simply bc they are human?
Such mindsets make more harm than any good.
There shouldn't even be a reason why men should. They just should, it's basic human decency. And men shouldn't expect praise from respecting women either
It is really scary. In the industry it happens so much. Like sexual harassment 😬
The more I learn about Super Junior the more disappointed I get. And to think they were the first boy group I ever liked... gosh.... (to be fair, there are some members that I still like and I hope they are not problematic like Yesung, Donghae and Eunhyuk)
wild how an entire stolen comment gets more likes than the original lol
@@junodovah2323 they are more influential than I am I guess... 🤣
Do you know if Heechul ever did something bad? I don't like the group I just find him funny sometimes so I'm just wondering.
@@a.a.6789 oh crap I forgot to mention him as one of the members I like. I don’t know if he ever said or did something wrong, but you never know….
I never stanned them and I won't ever, like they've done TOO many things that make me feel sick and uncomfortable
Honestly, at the point I don't know what to do . We are literally livin' in 2022, we have even gone through PANDEMIC. How long is it when we will treat everyone equal....ofc before laws. This makes me sad...from telling to cover us up because we provoke men to getting r**p*d is just sad. We gotta be strong and assertive about this. I wish one day we will get through this.
@melodious5063 It's Korea. What do you expect? Even normal foreign women have these problems happen and go to Japan and Korea looking for new work and opportunities in a new place completely, and then they are shocked when they try to report someone to the police for sexual harassment and assault and then nothing happens. Yes, in the States the same happens, sure. But it doesn't happen that often.
Time hasn't been kind to women, and when times are changing there are still those who don't get it. I feel truly disgusted that women still get treated this way. I'm a male myself and I feel so disgusted to be a man sometimes. There are a lot of nice men out there, but the fact that there are so many rotten apples still breaks my heart... I'm glad these things are being investigated and the men that do stuff like this get properly charged.
Exactly, theres a lot of nice men but there is A Lot of rotten apples as well.
the fact that i might be stanning idols who were part of the Nth chatrooms is giving me the shivers...
I hv so many trust issues because of this now
Like imagine stanning an idol thinking they are the purest person ever and they turn to be monsters
@@imgonnaburndowncubewithsoo2408 This is my biggest fear....thats why we ABSOLUTELY need to know the names...
@@KayKay-sl7co it's like I just unlocked my new fear
I never thought something like this we would have to face
Just stop stanning idols. I stopped a year ago. I don't want to unknowingly be stanning and spending money on people like that. I only casually keep up with kpop news sometimes. And I spend my time and money on better hobbies.
well as a gg stan for more than ten years i see so much shlt being done by male idols than female so might aswell only stan em llol
Despite the dark and uncomfortable topic, this was so informative and beautifully written it gave me chills!!! Glad to see more content exposing the dark side of kpop. It’s really sad to see the lengths companies go to to protect their image/connections instead of protecting women. Hopefully things will change in the near future
Fascinating informative video on the unfortunate dark and Shady side within the K-pop music industry especially the disrespect and mistreatment towards Female Idols such is quite disturbing and totally disgusting. It can seriously affect the mental health of these Female Idols as well
There are many videos about this issue so this is nothing.
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Even with the threat of demonetization this channel has chosen to highlight the abuse women must endure for their craft and careers. The more power and control a woman has over her body and futures, the more threatened and insecure the males feel. Keep fighting the good fight. 👏👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿
There was a flash of Billie Eilish. She should serve as a role model for all young women. She established herself without any input from the "industry" and is in complete control of her destiny. Because she demanded the control. Girls united!
Billy Eilish (the pop star) was literally created by her brother.... and i'm not defending anything this video brings up, abusing the young and vulnerable is sad and disgusting, be it girls OR boys.
@@fade2k652 I’m sorry but evidence?
@@lll.24601 th-cam.com/video/7Y6aFCS8evg/w-d-xo.html
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There are many more of these plus the Documentory about how she got started that i cant be arsed to find....
This is exactly why you should never stan an idol group because every idol group (including girl groups) has done something wrong. Just listen to the music and watch the variety shows but dont support the groups like they're some special thing. You'd be setting yourself up for disappointment once the real people behind the idol characters are revealed. I watch the variety stuff of groups and listen to the music but that's it. I watch and listen for the entertainment factor. DON'T GET ATTACHED TO IDOL GROUPS, they dont know you and you don't know them.
Louderrrr bestieee!!!!
Maybe the best comment I've seen here
Exactly!!! Very well said. And to think there are fan wars too, when their idols doesn't really care at all
Couldn’t agree more!
as a 2nd gen stan with a lot of this kpop 'baggage' lmao this is what ive been saying to these younger kpop stans but they just call me old like ok.
It’s not fair how Female idols get Treated
It’s not just Korean men ! It’s men no matter their ethnicity !
The same thing happened to the Fifth Harmony Girls. Exploited at a young age. Also don’t think it’s just females being prostituted to rich sponsors but young males too. Anyone being sold against their will, it’s disgusting and I feel for these kids.
A couple of times I have seen videos done by others, talking about how the abusive and violent behavior of Korean men in a TV series is okay as long as they are in love with the woman and she can "heal" him. That actually makes me sick to my stomach. I love that not only are you calling out all the abusers, but also all the government, police, entertainment execs, and even fans who protect them. Normalizing abuse is wrong. Victim blaming/shaming is wrong. They should tattoo crimes on foreheads so everyone knows what these men do when they think they can get away with it. This doesn't just happen in Korea, but I definitely believe the people of Korea who allow these kinds of behaviors to continue should be ashamed of themselves.
abusive and violent behavior of korean women in tv series is okay too as long as they're beautiful and the man is there to humanize her, the prime example is the female lead in "it's okay to not be okay", when the audience excuses her behavior because she's pretty and wears nice clothes
people call these female characters sassy and badass
I'm taking notes how many times female characters raised their hands on male characters in kdramas, and nobody criticizes female violent behavior, whereas people did start to criticize abusive male characters and it's why they aren't so common anymore, nowadays you're more likely to find female characters that hit male characters on the head, shoulders, back, or use things to hit them
even when we go back a few years, "descendants of the sun" has female character hitting male character with her purse, another female character making male character to trip, using violence instead of actually communicating with words what bothers them
@@FruityHachi It would definitely be better all over the world if we all just learned to use words and realize that everyone has feelings that can be hurt. Treat others the way you want to be treated.
honestly I am disappointed in these male idols and specially super junior, and I hope that in the future the female idols will be treated properly
Same, like I hope that female idols will be allowed to express themselves and be who they are.
Some Members from Big Bang and Super Junior are ve problematic and they are biggest 2nd gen boy groups
This not only happening in Korea it happened all over the world.
This story is about Korea.
Try to keep up.
And it’s especially bad in Korea.
@@powbobs the same situations also hapoen in other parts of the world and must be stop weather in Korea or any part of the world.
Hyuna Jessi hwasa are some of the only woman who seems mature enough to take action and talk about this issues others are too dependent and quite
the other mamamoo members as well they always speak up for and help out other women. only 3% of their fans are male though it kinda shows how misogynistic men are
@@Bambabababambam yeah absolutely
Ikr every female idol should be like them !
I thought I was the only one who saw this. Shes like the only one I stan for that reason. I can't respect any artist who doesn't have bravery ... its one thing to have talent but if your words are useless then the idol is not even a role model.
It’s very dangerous for Korean women to speak up.
JYP himself is creepy enough so him having influence over these girls careers is repulsive.I am amazed at how they dress these girls in such inappropriate outfits.The price of fame for them is quite a high price to pay.
He’s not even the CEO anymore… You can’t blame him for the outfits
@@hellooo211He started the company from the ground up and had ALL creative and legal control. I do hate the spinelessness of some of these industry bosses that DON'T protect their women. We're taught to look after women and to keep them safe as the men, from other worse and evil men, but then when nothing is done about it to stop them that is when it is necessary to change things and to actually do something about it.
I hate the double standard. Men can get away with all this disgusting shit and have their careers and fans in tact, meanwhile a female idol will just look at a male idol unfavorably and she will be cancelled with her career hanging on a thread. And a large part of this is due to women's own damn internalized misogyny that are so quick to annihilate a woman's career with no room for redemption while their oppars get a free pass to everything. I hate it so damn much.
Excellent job in your reporting. It's sad that we as women gave birth to men like that 🤢🤮 I be embarrassed to say that's my son the movie star or singer. I pray that the something will change for many women who thinks they have to ender this type of treatment in the entertainment industry.
I've always struggled with this.....on one hand, I love K-pop, and on the other hand, I HATE what they have to endure. Hate is a strong word that appropriately fits this topic. I'm a very optimistic person. However, when it comes to what they go through, I can never see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's too deep-rooted. Please tell me why 90% of young girls want to be Kpop idols? Whatever happened to becoming a doctor, lawyer, or scientist? I have a friend who is super talented, and if they auditioned they would more than likely make it. When I heard this was their dream and they will be auditioning.......I wanted to cry!! These young girls have no idea what they are signing up for but, their parents do! These men with power know the girls want it so bad they are willing to sell their souls. Recently a big artist said if they had the choice to do it all over again the answer would be NO.
Black Pink is on top of the world right now. Every single member in the group is beautiful. I can't even imagine the hell they've been through and still going through, being surrounded by powerful men. I used them just as an example but, by no means am I discounting any other groups. Men included. This is one of many reasons why they suffer from a vast amount of mental health issues. Since the beginning of time, most Asian men felt women were created for their domestic and sexual pleasures. This is a learned behavior passed down from generation to generation. Girls are taught the day they come out of the womb what position they play. That goes for the young boys too. They are taught their position and the duties of a woman. Btw, who started aegyo? Why do have to sound like a child in order to be cute or flirtatious? For an adult to sound like a seven-year-old submissive child comes across as very disturbing to me. I guess it's all about the culture and how you grew up. I feel bad for all the idols. Sexual assault does not discriminate. They spend at least 10 years of their life more unhappy than happy,
Amen
You spoke the truth
Aegyo sucks
And these men have the audacity to hate female tht stands up against them🤡🤡
And they win, is simple scary, that youtuber that make his inc3l fanbase harrast that poor youtuber whi end up k1ll1ing herself for the online bullying
This is truly disturbing. Thank you sharing information about this. I didn’t know this type of stuff existed. I feel awful for all the female idols that had to endure this type of treatment. I can’t imagine how many of them have lost their opportunity to debut or even make it in the industry because of these disgusting people.
I hope South Korean men will realize how much these women go through, thankfully most of these are in 2nd gen / 3rd gen, but still, it feels wrong no matter how much time has passed
Korea is stuck in a different age than the rest of the world, its like a hierchey however u spell it
@@kazuhassideprofileswifey2179 true. Korea is still backwards.
@@kazuhassideprofileswifey2179 Korean society is still is a society where men dominate and have absolute power over women and what there roles are in society
@@jordicarvajal2834 Needs to change tho, the more its like that the more women can be treated as objects, men shouldn't objectify women, look at the diff between male and female idols, if a man shows his stomach public belike how wonderful and if a female idol did it here comes the bad comments
@@kazuhassideprofileswifey2179 For example in Twice III tour in Seoul, the arena was half full and the audience was not even allowed to scream or cheer or else you get kicked out of the concert. Twice on stage acted more cute. When they were singing Rollin on encore, they were dancing and acting in cutesy way.
But now they are in the US and they can be who they are. Jeongyeon didn't get judged by her weight, Chaeyoung got to freely show off her tattoos, Sana got to be sexy, Mina got to sexy, Dahyun tried to be sexy in a cute way, etc. Unlike in Korea, Twice got to be sexy during Rollin encore especially when they were in Oakland.
It's so sad that most of the time were not safe just because of are gender :/
I am not a Korean. I am from Germany, my parents from Turkey and Kurdistan. And I am also kind of scared of men … the Situation in Turkey is so awful and scary …
Ich traue vielen deutschen Männern genauso wenig wie anderen.
@@soleil7259 Ja, dass kann ich verstehen …
do you mean that one of you’re parents is kurdish and one is turkish and both from turkey or one from turkey and one from iraqi kurdistan? because no part of turkey is called kurdistan.
@@md-dp5bo my Mom is from Turkey and 100% Turkish. My father is from a "City" in Turkey named Dersim - Turkish people call it Tunceli -, which is, by Kurdish people themselves, considered as Kurdistan. He is Kurdish, but since he lived not in Dersim for a long time, he is fluent in Turkish - he also says that his Turkish is better than his Kurdish. I hope I could answer your question?
@happiness TT i belive you …
Lately in Turkey there was a 16-years-old Girl who was FORCED to marry am man (i don't know If he was much older or not, but still forcing your Girl to marry someone is disgusting). Turkish Media recently find out that she was murdered by her husband. Like what is wrong with you?!?? She was a Teenager and maybe she would have a kinda good Life and then the parents FORCED her to marry and after the marrige you get murdered. The Bad Thing is that the man did not even get any Kind of punishment …
i’m a meu too & sulli is literally till today my biggest inspiration her girls supporting girls messages & overall doing so much for females & female products taking about period blood is such a kween behavior i still hate men & knetz for dragging her i seriously hate korean society & mostly importantly cis straight men misogynists!
I love how informative and descriptive your videos are... Thank you for providing such information 👍🏼
A life of an artist is never simple I just can't imagine what these idols go through its not just about females I'm sure many male artists have also faced a lot, from such a young age.
bestie you forgot jaywhypee, he’s also very disgusting 🙄
It reminds me of what happened in Hollywood with Harvey Weinstein. It went on for years and no one, male or female, said anything. It’s disgusting and people need to start speaking up when they see something. I’m sure it can be scary speaking up but the sooner the better. You can’t allow these gross predators to get away with it.
I really want to know why YGs wife married him. He`s much older than her, ruined her career, is a disgusting and weird man and much more. It can`t be just because he`s rich. Please. In my opinion he`s the most toxic husband I`ve ever heard of.
Someone said he got her pregnant on purpose. In SK being a single mom is tough. This could be one of the reasons.
@@rashiagarwal3113 this makes it even more sad 🙁
@@rashiagarwal3113 what a disgusting man! 😖
@@rashiagarwal3113 Disgusted by this man 😖😖
It's cultural. Status and financial security trumps everything else , regardless of how disgusting it is.
You snapped with this video! This video was so well done and I appreciate all the effort and research you put into it
Every countries women are going through some thing.
But people don't pay attention to it. It's serious but those people are always ready to blame victim.
no more korea,china is next level misogyny
Not only idols , at the beginning of our relationship my Korean girlfriend ( I'm European )was so confused the way I'm interacting with her taking extra care for her
that most of the times she thought I'm faking my personality :D
Its the fact that half of the world thinks Korea is the safest country to exist but they don't know the true about Korea and there no such think as save anymore when I was child I dreamed of traveling to places and thinks like this makes me rethink my decision and it really sad that idols have to go through this my heart goes out to each and very on of them and hopefully these females idols get the Justice they deserve 😞🙏🙏🙏
i am NEVER going to understand why, WHY ggs have male managers/staffs, NEVER EVER
Why can’t you? Not all men are bad.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj yeah, but safety of people is important. We're not going to start allowing men into women's toilets if they want to, because 'not all men are bad'. It's too much of a risk to have a male manager for a female group. There are female managers available, so they should be allocated to girl groups
@@Ri57490 Obviously not and women should not go into men’s toilet too. There are women who like women too so don’t think that just because you are with women that you are safe.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj enough men are bad, not all men rape but a bunch of men keep quiet for instance. on this video there’s so many cases where men didn’t do their job right and women were sexually assaulted. if you say “not all men” you’re probably one of them. if the shoe fits, it fits.
@@barbirelle What the hell? I am woman by the way but even if I was a man, I would get very angry that people think that I am bad just because of my gender. Plus not all men like women.
Thank you for sharing this, I grew up loving Kpop, but as I grow older I do noticed the dark side of the undustry. Thank you for educating many, you too have a fan in all of us :)
Don't speak for all of us
Hearing these stories, I'm 60+ now but makes me want to be like a den mom to these girls to protect them and teach them to speak up for themselves. They must feel so lost not knowing where to turn when someone misbehaves towards them.
Some men are so weird..
Yeah....
Indeed
Ikr
Same with women..
Ikr 😂🙂
Taeyeon's and Jessica's incident was so sosososososo publicly done, tsk tsk.
Women should learn to stand together, I see a lot of women hating each other and trying bring each other down, it's really sad.
Ikr man that's so sad that there are some females who hate other females!
Only true scum blames the victims. .
Not enough people talking about these grown men calling 'dibs' on girls ELEVEN to FOURTEEN years old. What world do we live in???
As disgusting as the Burning Sun scandal was, it shed a lot of light on the ugly issues within Korea itself and the industry. I felt so bad for the fans having to grieve the loss of people whom they thought their idols were, and the women (men, too, I believe) who had to grieve the loss of themselves because stuff like this changes oneself.
This isn't even a secret. Anyone not naive to how the entertainment world works would just assume that this kind of stuff happens. NOT that it's right, but you have parents very willing to sell their kids in to the entertainment industry. It's like people have this warped fantasy about Korea or Asia in general. Like.. oh, they're so innocent and always kind and never do anything wrong!
Like nah. They're people and people suck everywhere.
There are predators everywhere, ESPECIALLY in the entertainment world. Any parent that willingly puts their kid in to that industry knows what they're signing their kid up for. They know the abuse their kid is going to receive but they care more about the $$.
And the way they showcase Korean men in K-pop and dramas?? innocent, respectful and what not.... It makes young girls around the world to want them. Girls need to see these kind of eye opener videos and facts TBH...... Be safe girls. It's not always what it looks like😣
I mean if ppl only watch romantic kdramas, that will definitely be skewing perspective since romantic drama/movies have good male characters in general around the world. It's not an inherently Korean practice to show respectful romantic leads in entertainment.
@@tabakhamya503 but the girls around the whole world only judge Korea and it's people based on these dramas should realize that
@@RahisCoverWorld definitely. It will however take time for ppl to realize that. It's kinda like how American girls romanticize British and French men
@@tabakhamya503 im french and french man is not so romantic 💀
I can't begin to express just how NECESSARY this video is! 👏👏👏👏 wooow!
Thank you so much for this video
The video is amazing..
I hope lots of people would appreciate all the info put in it.
I was hoping Irene incident would be here.
And targeting Korean men in general . .. 😅
I mean international stockers aren't any good.
Anyways . It sheds light on a really important topic..
Thank you so much for making it
Now the fact that through my teenage girl literal 13year old girls are about to debut (ik they’re older in Korean age but still most of the 2008 line in classy haven’t turned 14 yet internationally) the young age debuting (14 year olds) kinda slowed down during 3rd gen but is starting again I’m just worried for the, especially how much bigger kpop is now then it was then now it won’t just be Korea sexualizing them it will be people all over the world. Idk if it’s just me but I always have felt like ceos/managers at these company must be taking advantage of at least some idols sexually. I mean y’all see how uncomfortable Irene is visibly ik it’s a joke in the fandom but srsly she could’ve been facing stuff like this since she was young since she’s such a beautiful girl and trained for many years
I have friends who literally WORSHIP Korea and when I try to tell them about these issues and how it is not the wonderland it is shown to be they just say that it's a load a BS.
They need to learn nuance. You can love Korea but still acknowledge its problems.
@@lornam1142 right! I mean Korea is very beautiful country with a rich culture and I love Korea but like everything in the world it has issues and not perfect as shown in Kdramas.
someone needs to reveal those male celebrities in the nth room so they can get the hate they deserve
Thank you so much for making this video. It's so scary that crimes by these creeps get swept under the rug and then just becomes more normalized as if they won't get consequences for their actions... and that's one of the reasons why this perpetuates 🙄
omg @11:04 ...... how tf is this ignored how is this ok.....
Police are also men -.- and a lot of them are probably in that sane boat as the other men doing wrong to women. The ones whonare not are probably being threatened or stuff like that 😣 sad and tough reality. So cruel
Brah this channel is amazing . I love how raw it is.
With all of this I think we need not forget the one word that can destroy a female idol in Korea, feminist. Nietzens start a whisper and dig hard to get ANY crumble of proof. It's treated like feminism is equal to spying or flipping off a CEO.
79.7% is a lot.... That part gave me chills. Just thinking to myself about applying that % to the male idols I used to support; means around 80% of them are likely gf-beaters.
could be more than 80%, because that is only the ones that admit it...
Am not suprised but am always suprised at the same time...I choose to believe that atleast the idols now will make a serious change in the near future..for other people who may want to be idols too...
This video covered everything
I hope knetizen also go through this video and look at what's actually happening
They don't deserve this