Put the inline 6 twin turbo from the LS500 in it as a standard that would put it on the map again and a clean redesign body not so much fast back because I feel that headroom in the rear gets crunched they should lower the seats all around since that was always my problem with the last gen headroom is kind of limited compared to a bmw 5 series headroom
I almost went the 450 route but ended up buying a 350 awd. Found a 14 with 29k on it in perfect condition for 24k two years ago, couldn't pass it up but still think about that torque of the 450. How's yours holding up and what year and milage?
@@MikeB-jn2bu if you live in usa where fuel is cheaper than heavily state taxed european fuel, then 350 is ok. actually the gs 450 h is 2016 luxury edition and has better real daily performance than written in its specs. in summer a/c on when temperature are 20 to 30 celsius it consumes between 5 and 6 liters per 100 km even speeding up to 100 mph. in winter a/c on due to less accu power below 0 celsius it needs 0,5 to 0,8 liters more. the cvt is just perfect i cruise at 100 mph rev only 1000! accelleration in sport+ mode is porsche 911 like, but way more comfortable than 911. in fact i drive non stop 5 to 10 hors since seats are best in premium class cars since i drove german premium cars last 4 decades which i regret and i should have changed earlier to lexus so i would not have waisted money on inferior but costly and bad german technology. torque is great especially driving mountain alpine pass roads uphill is fun. recently i joined a group of mercedes benz slr s and kept up with them till 250 km/h. those arrogant ignorant mb slr drivers were astonished.
I currently drive a 2017 IS200t F-Sport that I bought used in September 2018 for $27,500 & has been an incredible car for the price I paid, but am really considering buying a used 2016-18 GS350 in the near future, possibly as early as this fall as I could get one for around the same price as I paid for my IS with a lot more power & standard features. The turbo 4 in my IS is smooth & powerful enough, but really miss the rich sound of a V6 (previously drove a 2015 Toyota Camry XSE V6) & it will also likely last longer than the turbo. I'm planning to test drive one soon, but I'm sure I'll love it right off the bat.
I have a GS450H (2014) in the UK and I absolutely love it. it is so refined to drive and comfortable. I love the way it delivers the power, which is gradual without being too much. I get to appreciate it more and more every day I drive it. I had german cars (Mercedes and BMW) and honestly, this car outperforms them all. So glad to be driving one.
The GS450h is one of my favourites!! My mum wanted one last year but they had stopped manufacture and the ES300h was being launched, needless to say shes on a top spec IS300h :) PS I have some Lexus video's of the UK spec (Scottish) if you would like to see them Nick?
I have a 2013 Lexus GS350 all wheel drive It has the luxury package and cold weather package I bought it in 2020 For $24000 it listed new for $61000 it had 69000 miles on it when I bought it I have a 100000 miles on it now it has been one awesome car I plan on keeping it forever I love my Lexus
My AWD 2014 is a great car. Other than a seat belt retractor, she's been great. The steering in sport mode is excellent. My biggest gripe is gas mileage. Easily does mid 20s on the highway but it's a 15-17 MPG car around town.
I have the 2016. I don't think it's worth it to spend $50K+ for the 2020, but save $15-20K and buy Lexus certified used for a 16 or 17! It's essentially unchanged from 2016 to 2020.
JT K Exactly what I did. Just picked up a 2016 CPO GS 350 FSport (love the aggressive grill) for about 30k. I don’t think it’s worth 57k either lol, but a great used buy. I hope Lexus keeps the GS and turns it into a sexy 4 door coupe, especially with Toyota/Lexus moving into a more sporty direction.
JT K ... you’re exactly right! I just picked up a pristine 2016 FSport (like 54car!) with 30,000 miles for $36,500. It looks brand new and is identical to the one he’s driving and I love it. I cracked up when he said “Oh, I love the turn in”... I have the same response every time I drive this car. Great advice!!!
Used is the way! Picked up a 14 gs 350 awd about 5 months ago with 29k on it for 24k. Car is cherry, looks and drive new! There is alot of these cars hiding in seniors garages not being used.
Two words to describe this car. Fun and refined. Yes it’s very simple compared to other Lexus vehicles but this make it last a long time. Whenever we get our Lexus serviced my 4 year wants me to pick out the gs as the loaner car. It’s a lot of fun. Hopefully they continue making this car. It shares similar parts with the es so it’s just a matter of making the body molds.
Justin S I wanted a GS for years but my budget wouldn’t allow it. So I decided to do a little more research and purchased a 2016 ES 350 for $28k. I am extremely happy with it.
The problem with the GS is, its always been that sibling that you hardly ever see. But once you see it, its wow. Everyone has always sought after the LS, ES , RX and IS. The LX & GX has always been those siblings away in college. And the others siblings are just around like the RC etc. I remember back in the day our across the Street neighbor had a 1993 GS and the bought a 1995 Mercedes C-Class. He would wash both of his cars consistently. But something about that GS especially with those taillights was a head turner.
Everytime I hop in my 2018 GS350 Fsport, I'm in awe of the quality and beauty she possesses. I purposely park, nose first, just to marvle at the rear lights when I deactivate the alarm at work. She is a work of art, in and out. (Atomic silver/Rioja red)
@@fixhead562 I believe the engine in that car the gs460 was somewhat underrated because the ls460 is running around with the same engine the 4.6 L V8 making 385 horsepower where the GS 460 is advertised at 340 horsepower
@@fixhead562 yeah it would be nice I currently have a 06 gs430 which I love black on black and one of my dream cars a 2008 Lexus ISF which is a monster I don't care that it has a manual trans because it has that wonderful 8 speed with paddle shifters
They want it to die on the vine , just as is. If I can’t get a 2020, I’ll buy out my 2018 F sport lease. The service manager told me if I do. There is no reason to get the extended warranty. The opposite of the sales team. Simply because his experience in this decade with this vehicle shows. They simply DONT BREAK DOWN,,,
If they would have continued to update the software in this vehicle, replaced the mouse with the trackpad, and just refreshed the front fascia they could have brought this car back to being desirable.
@@KirkKreifels Why doesn't Lexus allow IS and GS owners to take their vehicles to the dealership for a system update? For a charge of course. I mean they're still using the same displays and the mouse is pretty much the same thing as the trackpad.
@@ZS-xi4xk it's probably a slower processor. The system has a bit of lag when I change songs and stations or even turning off in my IS. Probably can't handle Android auto..
@@thtupid I think it probably could, the system is relatively smooth most of the time and most of Android Auto is ran off your phone's internals and just projected on the screen through a usb connection
@@KirkKreifels I lied - picked up a brand new 2020 back in November of 2020. I was heartbroken over the end of the GS and decided to buy one of the last ones made. Now i'll hold out until Lexus is further down the road into the electric arena. Keep up the good work Kirk - love the videos.
I don't think that they are going to cancel the GS, because it was created to compete with the 5 series BMW. Also, I noticed that the Lexus Racing Experience (or whatever it's called) provides Lexus GSF for their participants.
I'm hoping we get a version of the Toyota Crown as the new IS to bridge the gap. Im personally holding out to see how big the next IS is before I buy a new car. It'll be that or the new TLX type S.
If you can get over the boaty feeling of it, it's def a nice car. Even in sport plus its only slightly better. Doesn't have much more more room than an IS I find. Then again just my takeaway from my test drive the other day of a 2015 base GS and 2013 F sport. Not sure if the newer ones are much diff
I have a 2014 with 115,000 miles and i am amazed at how amazing it runs. Engine pulls strong. So reliable. I use a k&n air filter and it breathes easier, I get an additional 1 mpg and can feel a bit of extra punch. It's a keeper.
i will not believe it ! hopefully they will not give up this GS !!!! Especially the GS450h is one , if not the best, powerfull Hybrid all around ! But was it so difficult to upddate that Infotainment with the one from the ES ??? OMG ....LEXUS , come on
@@KirkKreifels thx....bad decision. imo.. So i have to buy a used one......thankfully they hold min 300000 km without bigger repairs. I wished they would update that V6Hybrid with a bigger PlugIn pack and second E-motor or bigger e-motor.
Kirk Kreifels I am getting a ‘19 in the liquid platinum. The reason this car is so much better than the ES is because it’s designed as a rear wheel drive rather than front wheel drive (even though it has AWD). From a handling perspective, RWD bias is where it’s at, IMO.
Not just that it's RWD, it's front suspension is a classic (and rare nowadays) double wishbone design. Back in the 90s, most Honda and Acura cars had it, along with many others. In 2019, only select high end cars have double wishbone.
I traded my 2014 GS 350 F Sport for a 2015 Genesis 3.8 (G80) Ultimate. The 2015 is loaded with technology, heads up display, lane keeping assist, and radar cruise. The GS didn’t have any of these features. I may a mistake. I should have waited for a 2016/2017 GS 350 with the same features as the genesis. I miss The excellent customer service at a Lexus Dealership. It’s not the same as going into a hyundai dealership.
I had a 2013 GS350 F sport in the rare starfire white for a little over 2 years had to sell for financial reasons but it was the best 48,000 miles ever. such a good all around as a daily driver then perfect for back roads on weekends. Tech was a little slow but the way power was delivered and the way it handled especially with PS4S. I loved it!
I’m still holding on my 2013 GS 350 Fsport . It has 45k on it now. Still in excellent condition always serviced at Lexus. The reason for the miles is because I have a GMC Sierra as my daily. I know the ES is taking over but I like my rear wheel drive.
I sometimes think the problem with the gs is that it was such a good car that most people with them never feel a need get a new one. My 15 has 105000, and I just have a hard time justifying getting anything else.
This is the exact model and package I want!!! This color, those wheels, the triple beam headlights and the spoiler. All I need to do is tint the windows and this bad boy is good to go!
Its a real shame if they discontinue the GS line. As mentioned by others, Lexus inability to update the infotainment was a total injustice to this car. Pound for pound, this was my favorite all around Lexus car. I like this car a lot better then the 5 series. I owned a 2012 for 7 years and not once did I have an issue with it. If doesn't sound like the ES can properly replace the GS, the IS is to small and the LS is to big. Although Lexus didn't sell as many of these, what base they did have will probably leave for a European equivalent.
The GS Levinson stereo system is far superior to the new ES Levinson stereo system. I test drove both cars one after the other and noticed the GS Levinson stereo was much clearer and crisp with hard hitting base. The ES Levinson does get loud and sounds good for sure but distorted a little at higher volumes. While comparing the two though, you notice a huge difference in the GS Levinson stereo while listening to your favorite tracks. The GS version is deeper and more substantial to the fine tuned ear. The GS is more sporty and drives better too. I'd take a nicely appointed used GS over a new ES any day.
I just got my GS450H these years it was the last one in Madrid coz every one is buying NX or ES. I’m totally agree ES has more corks and better nav etc but for me is more important feeling more quality and better handling car and went all the way for the GS even paying 25 grand euros more than the ES with the same executive trim.
Keep it. Add some power and update the rear. Then updated the infotainment and add panoramic roof. This would make it marketable to all others. The new Acura TL Type S is coming out with a NSX modified engine pushing over 350hp.
I love the design of the current GS generation (2013-present).I hope it lives on. But part of me feels like Lexus might surprise us with a new model lol
Still loving my 18 RWD F-Sport with 14k on the clock I bought new with Caviar/Red. It's is my forever car that I store in the winters here in the rust belt. RWD is much easier to service the engine vs. the AWD models is one of the reasons I bought it.
I think if they made the ES AWD then they may get rid of GS. I had fun with the GS. GS & GX are the legends. They have aged more. If they put in more power in this car then the competitors will have to watch out. Kirk I always liked the in dash navigation screen. Yes, the interior I always loved.
I currently have a 07 gs450h and my god I can't believe I had it for over a year and it's the longest I've owned any car of mines. I guess that's how great the car is to me knowing I can average up to 34mpg(highway) in a v6. If it's true about the discontinuation of this model I just want to say not goodbye but I'll be looking forward for the GS comeback one day. 🤞❤
@YungGBone124127134 They clearly have to know how to pull it off. The same engine in the LFA OMG! But i really think theyre brewing up something. I love the look of the 2013 Mercedes CLS but those cars are money pits so I wouldn't buy one.
Well. I have a 2008 Lexus ES 350 I just purchased. So I can't wait to buy a 2018 in a ten years in the used markets. Lexus and Toyota cars dont die and are incredibly well made !
I will be sad to see this car go as I’ve been a fan of it since 1998! I think the huge reason for low sales is because the V8 option for a non-F model has been taken away many years ago. This car has everything except the competitive performance of BMW.
I currently own a 2017 IS200t F-Sport & thinking about upgrading to a GS350 in the future. Had my IS for 16 months so far & it's been fantastic so far & saved about $18k over a new one, but may want to go back to a mid-size sedan (had a 2015 Camry XSE V6 prior). The cupholders are my only major complaint in my IS & are in a far better location in the GS. The turbo 4 in my IS is smooth & quiet even at higher revs, but sometimes miss the sound of a V6 & will likely have less problems in the long run.
As always, thanks for the review! The old infotainment, old "slow-to-read music" USB ports, and other non-updated items made me go with the new ES instead. The rear of the 4gen GS is still beautiful!
Second-generation GS was King. I like the way they offered different choices between v6 and V8 back then. And if I remember correctly they sold them as fast as they could make them. All these years later it's still looks great too. I will be very sad to see the GS go the way of the dodo
Hopefully with the new incoming Lexus president, he fights to give the GS another chance. All this car needs is some simple updating and a all new powertrain.
@@MrMustangrick I mean the Toyota CEO said he really didn't want the current generation , but his managers and product development teams fought to keep it. I personally think it just needs to be elevated to the next level and differentiate itself from the ES, make Lexus GS 500 Grand Coupe with a turbo charged V6 with at least 375 Hp , 21 inch rims,digital gauges, class leading materials and modern infotainment with AWD and they'll have a winner. The question is are they willing to put in the development cost abd would customers but it. I would!
@YungGBone124127134 Dude you took the words out my mouth. I love Lexus but the dont do enough to push the envelope. Mercedes and BMW always introduce industry first in there cars and with that things sometimes fail or break quicker than normal, Lexus is smart they wait until features perfected let the Germans get the bad wrap in the beginning and then put it on there cars as standard and sell it like it revolutionary. SMART but people don't care about a company's heritage anymore, whoever makes the best looking, desirable vehicle is winning.
Whoohoo I watched this video 4x. And I have one the 18 GS F sport. I was at the wedding , but not going to the funeral. I either keep this one or if am lucky enough to get the last of the 2020’s. Atomic Silver is smoking
I think this car looks classic - 3 box construction: Hood, Passenger middle (with real rear passenger headroom), Trunk (& useful size at that). It defies the current Me-Too fastback trend from other car OEMs (why people want to torture themselves sitting in the rear in these fastback cars. Fastback looks "good" but so impractical). Car is not in vogue. So, I can see Lexus axing this low volume car. But why Lexus let RC flourish & have an update for RC this year. RC is just a 2 door version of GS (same goes for RC-F & GS-F) Could it be that every manufactures are trying to milk the last cent out from the buyers until even the buyers get tired of the coupes?
Always love a well-tuned luxurious sedan that drives well with sporty characteristics and is comfortable and quiet inside the car. No necessity to have the fastest engine and quickest gear shifts. GS fits all these requirement well and it is one of the most appropriate luxurious sports sedan for driving enthusiasts driving.
Lexus should continue the GS line. There needs to be a Lexus competitor to 5-Series and E-Class. Even Infiniti is supposedly going to roll out a new Q70. Lexus can drop the 3.5V6TT from the LS into a new GS.
I thoroughly enjoy your detail-rich reviews. They are some of the most objective, informative reviews on line. I am considering buying a new 2020, but somewhat concerned about buying a new vehicle that hasn’t had significant updates in a few years. On the flip side, all production and engineering bugs should have been resolved. I don’t need bleeding edge infotainment technology. Simply want a high quality, reliable, enjoyable drivers car. Your thoughts?
Everyone is complaining of its age, yet the JGC is even older and does well. The infotainment is the Achilles heel of this car. Such an easy fix, but Lexus was too stupid to understand that. Thank god Apple CarPlay is finally available as an aftermarket install. I am holding on to hope that the Mirai will preview the next GS. Even if it is restricted to California and niche markets, just keep the nameplate alive. This is the best car I’ve ever owned and it would be really painful to see it go 😢
Apple CarPlay available as an aftermarket install? Can you tell me where or what brand? Just bought a 2016 and would love to have it installed. Did the same for my 2007 4Runner and now it has 250,000 miles and better tech than a 2019 4Runner, which cracks me up. So where do I get this for my “new” Lexus? thanks!
I don’t see why lexus would cancel there car that competes with the E class and 5 series. I still see a lot of them on the road so it can’t be a selling problem
Unfortunately, it is. Numbers aren't that great with the increase in the demand for CUVs. The discontinuation is mostly confirmed but what's uncertain is if they are really willing to change it into a fastback model to complete with Audi 7s/CLS or the 6 series from BMW.
I hope Toyota doesn’t kill the GS line. I have owned a 2013 GS350 RWD since new and still love driving it. Great balance between smooth ride and good handling. Very peppy engine. Refined interior except for the useless infotainment system. I was waiting for a redesigned model, but I guess I’ll hold to it a while longer. It’s a great driver’s car. Had an IS before but too cramped. Personally I can’t stand how the ES drives.
Totally agree Apple’s to oranges when it comes to the way both drive . It’s sad to hear from the salesmen and managers that the simple fix is to add AWD to the ES. I told them all ,they have no clue. Or they have a lousy sale pitch to transplant the GS owners .That won’t work
It would be cool if lexus made the GS an all electric car that would compete with Tesla and the Mach E, etc. And I kind of like the idea of a fast-back GS that would be interesting also
The GS can most definitely be reseructed The current gen although so old is only missing modern tech It looks like it's a new design inside out it means when it came out it was and is a really good vehicle The gs450h was definlty ahead of its time as it was a perfromcne hybrid rather than economy and now is the time for that The only thing that has to happen with the GS is new technology A plug in in performance hybrid as well as a good turbo engine With latest tech similar to es,ls and latest rx
100% agreed. the 4cylHybrid in the ES is much to weak on our speeedlimitfree autobahn and shut down at 180 km/h ? The GS450H run smooth in its limiter at 240km/h were all our german cars do.
Really miss my 2013 F sport, had to sell because bouncing overseas, Still miss it big time! It was a dealer buy back so I saved tons of cash but knew it would be solid. After four years and three years with the new buyer (work mate), its never had an issue in seven years. Think BMW can do that. The moment I have an opportunity to get another one it will be a done deal.
Not these two are even comparable but when I see a GS, it reminds me of the discontinued Ford Crown Vic. Everyone lamented about it’s history and unique features but no one I knew bought one. Though the cars were significant during their time, they declined with obsolescence and what kills most vehicles is poor sales.
it's really a pity that Lexus cancels GS series. I own a 2016 GS300H. To be honest, I think hybrid GS with ECVT transmission is the best in the middle size sedan segment, given that I don't have any child :)
Welp, just bought a used 2013 Lexus GS 350 w/luxury package! Might get another GS (2014 - 2016) later in the future. These vehicles may become collectors items later on.. we shall see!!
I know this is an older video but just wanted to say thank you for this review.. I'm looking for a used car I prefer Japanese cars... made in Japan cars.. so this video helped. Hope Lexus doesn't pull the plug but in the current market I could see it happening. :/ Crazy how good cars never make it over here.. maddening. Anyway.. thanks :)
Love my Lexus GS 350 F sport. This car has such an elegant interior, smooth ride, and ample hp. I cant imagine Lexus stopping production of this car. This is the most sporty car they have. It would be a big mistake to do this. The Lexus ES looks reminds me too much of a camry and the IS is too small.
Lexus is not getting rid of the GS. The development cost spent to develop the RWD GA-L platform on the LS and LC will never get payed off at the rate those two models are selling at. Lexus will have to build a couple more RWD based high volume Lexus models to offset some of the development cost.
Kirk Kreifels If you know Toyota, you know they don’t mass produce cars to be unprofitable! They are a very conservative company. The 4GS is very profitable for Toyota (development cost was payed off years ago). The next generation GS will be a huge departure from what your use to seeing from Lexus. Toyota/Lexus has announced they are going bullish on sedans.
I have a ultrasonic blue mica 2.0 on order and it will be ready in March! Although it is a lease, I may consider buying it out if they do discontinue it. I cant wait!
The GS "300" is getting discontinued not the other GS models. Only the basic cheap entry level model. Lexus/Toyota NEVER said the entire GS model will be axed.
I just bought a slightly used 2014 GS 350 with 50k miles! Looks , feels and drives BRAND NEW! First time I owned a Lexus. I had a Toyota SUV once! Sold it after 5 yrs it was dependable but cheap materials and bad interior specially the fake leather. So disappointed. I always owned an Acura. Started with a 2002 Acura TL type S and then 2017 Acura MDX. But this Lexus GS is nothing compared to my Acura! GS is over engineered to perfection! Example its insulations from the door panel to its engine compartment! Amazingly built to perfection . I will keep my Acuras but will buy Lexus from now on.
The GS must live on. It’s been in Lexus’s blood since 1991.
We can hope 🤞
Kirk Kreifels Fingers crosses indeed.
Redesign turbocharged V6 and make it a fast back that's it.
Put the inline 6 twin turbo from the LS500 in it as a standard that would put it on the map again and a clean redesign body not so much fast back because I feel that headroom in the rear gets crunched they should lower the seats all around since that was always my problem with the last gen headroom is kind of limited compared to a bmw 5 series headroom
@@fixhead562 That's a V6 not a lnline 6.
i drive the gs 450h since 2016 , its the best car i owned in 45 years, better than all my german premium cars.
I'm driving a 2013 gs 450h, it's a best car I've ever owned so far. Only a person who owns it that knows how good it is.
I almost went the 450 route but ended up buying a 350 awd. Found a 14 with 29k on it in perfect condition for 24k two years ago, couldn't pass it up but still think about that torque of the 450. How's yours holding up and what year and milage?
@@MikeB-jn2bu if you live in usa where fuel is cheaper than heavily state taxed european fuel, then 350 is ok. actually the gs 450 h is 2016 luxury edition and has better real daily performance than written in its specs. in summer a/c on when temperature are 20 to 30 celsius it consumes between 5 and 6 liters per 100 km even speeding up to 100 mph. in winter a/c on due to less accu power below 0 celsius it needs 0,5 to 0,8 liters more. the cvt is just perfect i cruise at 100 mph rev only 1000! accelleration in sport+ mode is porsche 911 like, but way more comfortable than 911. in fact i drive non stop 5 to 10 hors since seats are best in premium class cars since i drove german premium cars last 4 decades which i regret and i should have changed earlier to lexus so i would not have waisted money on inferior but costly and bad german technology. torque is great especially driving mountain alpine pass roads uphill is fun. recently i joined a group of mercedes benz slr s and kept up with them till 250 km/h. those arrogant ignorant mb slr drivers were astonished.
GS shows the essence of Lexus! I have a 2013 GS350 F-Sport. Never get tired of it!
I feel the same way! I have 2013 GS350 RWD Luxury Package and I'm keeping it forever.
Same bro it's so cool!
I’ve got same car I love
will get this car soon. looks like people loving it
I currently drive a 2017 IS200t F-Sport that I bought used in September 2018 for $27,500 & has been an incredible car for the price I paid, but am really considering buying a used 2016-18 GS350 in the near future, possibly as early as this fall as I could get one for around the same price as I paid for my IS with a lot more power & standard features. The turbo 4 in my IS is smooth & powerful enough, but really miss the rich sound of a V6 (previously drove a 2015 Toyota Camry XSE V6) & it will also likely last longer than the turbo. I'm planning to test drive one soon, but I'm sure I'll love it right off the bat.
I’ve had 2 of these and have LOVED them. Power, roomy, quiet ride, and luxurious. Please keep the GS
Amen!
I have a GS450H (2014) in the UK and I absolutely love it. it is so refined to drive and comfortable. I love the way it delivers the power, which is gradual without being too much. I get to appreciate it more and more every day I drive it. I had german cars (Mercedes and BMW) and honestly, this car outperforms them all. So glad to be driving one.
Congratulations! I have never had the pleasure of driving the hybrid GS. Too bad the GS was cancelled for UK
The GS450h is one of my favourites!! My mum wanted one last year but they had stopped manufacture and the ES300h was being launched, needless to say shes on a top spec IS300h :)
PS I have some Lexus video's of the UK spec (Scottish) if you would like to see them Nick?
I have a 2017 GS350 AWD (Winnipeg) and it's just a joy to drive. Sad that it's gone.
I have a 2013 Lexus GS350 all wheel drive It has the luxury package and cold weather package I bought it in 2020 For $24000 it listed new for $61000 it had 69000 miles on it when I bought it I have a 100000 miles on it now it has been one awesome car I plan on keeping it forever I love my Lexus
My AWD 2014 is a great car. Other than a seat belt retractor, she's been great. The steering in sport mode is excellent.
My biggest gripe is gas mileage. Easily does mid 20s on the highway but it's a 15-17 MPG car around town.
I have the exact same car for 6 months now with 35k on it. Loving it more every day. How many miles on yours and any issues besides seatbelts ?
I have the 2016. I don't think it's worth it to spend $50K+ for the 2020, but save $15-20K and buy Lexus certified used for a 16 or 17! It's essentially unchanged from 2016 to 2020.
JT K Exactly what I did. Just picked up a 2016 CPO GS 350 FSport (love the aggressive grill) for about 30k. I don’t think it’s worth 57k either lol, but a great used buy. I hope Lexus keeps the GS and turns it into a sexy 4 door coupe, especially with Toyota/Lexus moving into a more sporty direction.
JT K ... you’re exactly right! I just picked up a pristine 2016 FSport (like 54car!) with 30,000 miles for $36,500. It looks brand new and is identical to the one he’s driving and I love it. I cracked up when he said “Oh, I love the turn in”... I have the same response every time I drive this car. Great advice!!!
Used is the way! Picked up a 14 gs 350 awd about 5 months ago with 29k on it for 24k. Car is cherry, looks and drive new! There is alot of these cars hiding in seniors garages not being used.
Two words to describe this car. Fun and refined. Yes it’s very simple compared to other Lexus vehicles but this make it last a long time. Whenever we get our Lexus serviced my 4 year wants me to pick out the gs as the loaner car. It’s a lot of fun. Hopefully they continue making this car. It shares similar parts with the es so it’s just a matter of making the body molds.
I bought my 2017 a year old certified until 2024 with 12,000 miles on it for $40,000. I can’t imagine a better car for that price point.
Justin S I wanted a GS for years but my budget wouldn’t allow it. So I decided to do a little more research and purchased a 2016 ES 350 for $28k. I am extremely happy with it.
Why pay for a car that you afraid to put miles on it? U need to enjoy it and drive it more.
This is one of my many dream cars. I guess if these are discontinued by the time I graduate from law school, I'll just have to buy a used one.
The problem with the GS is, its always been that sibling that you hardly ever see. But once you see it, its wow. Everyone has always sought after the LS, ES , RX and IS. The LX & GX has always been those siblings away in college. And the others siblings are just around like the RC etc. I remember back in the day our across the Street neighbor had a 1993 GS and the bought a 1995 Mercedes C-Class. He would wash both of his cars consistently. But something about that GS especially with those taillights was a head turner.
I have a 2005 GS300, the last year of the 2JZ in the GS. I love this car, I really hope toyota doesn’t lose their way.
Everytime I hop in my 2018 GS350 Fsport, I'm in awe of the quality and beauty she possesses. I purposely park, nose first, just to marvle at the rear lights when I deactivate the alarm at work. She is a work of art, in and out. (Atomic silver/Rioja red)
The old 8 cylinder gs430 is a monster.
Yes it is I have one and it would beat this car performance wise
What about the gs460 I feel like that was underrated with power to weight ratio and it’s 8 speed
@@fixhead562 I believe the engine in that car the gs460 was somewhat underrated because the ls460 is running around with the same engine the 4.6 L V8 making 385 horsepower where the GS 460 is advertised at 340 horsepower
Nathan Lopez imagine that engine with a 6 speed MT slapped to it. Dreams Japanese V8’s>American v8’s
@@fixhead562 yeah it would be nice I currently have a 06 gs430 which I love black on black and one of my dream cars a 2008 Lexus ISF which is a monster I don't care that it has a manual trans because it has that wonderful 8 speed with paddle shifters
Why wouldn't Lexus update the infotainment software since it already exists in other cars? There is no excuse for that shit.
Stop people from using phones while driving that's why
They want it to die on the vine , just as is. If I can’t get a 2020, I’ll buy out my 2018 F sport lease. The service manager told me if I do. There is no reason to get the extended warranty. The opposite of the sales team. Simply because his experience in this decade with this vehicle shows. They simply DONT BREAK DOWN,,,
If they would have continued to update the software in this vehicle, replaced the mouse with the trackpad, and just refreshed the front fascia they could have brought this car back to being desirable.
That should have been the minimum.
@@KirkKreifels Why doesn't Lexus allow IS and GS owners to take their vehicles to the dealership for a system update? For a charge of course. I mean they're still using the same displays and the mouse is pretty much the same thing as the trackpad.
@@ZS-xi4xk it's probably a slower processor. The system has a bit of lag when I change songs and stations or even turning
off in my IS. Probably can't handle Android auto..
@@thtupid I think it probably could, the system is relatively smooth most of the time and most of Android Auto is ran off your phone's internals and just projected on the screen through a usb connection
Companies make different processors for these cars
Great review. I won’t be getting rid of my 2017 GS350 for a long long time. It’s a phenomenal car.
Nice car!
@@KirkKreifels I lied - picked up a brand new 2020 back in November of 2020. I was heartbroken over the end of the GS and decided to buy one of the last ones made. Now i'll hold out until Lexus is further down the road into the electric arena. Keep up the good work Kirk - love the videos.
I don't think that they are going to cancel the GS, because it was created to compete with the 5 series BMW. Also, I noticed that the Lexus Racing Experience (or whatever it's called) provides Lexus GSF for their participants.
I hope not...but looking so
The car is not selling so no, they won't make anymore or atleast for a while.
Nor do you.
If the sun is going down, I can assume it will be dark soon...that's how I see the GS.
@@MrMustangrick Do your "extended" research before making an ass out of yourself.
I always liked the GS. My IS is a little small.
I'm hoping we get a version of the Toyota Crown as the new IS to bridge the gap. Im personally holding out to see how big the next IS is before I buy a new car. It'll be that or the new TLX type S.
Well the IS is a compact vehicle. GS is bigger than full size ES
Johnny Lomeli There’s something about the boat luxury cars. Love how nimble the IS can be, but an LS or GS would be awesome.
Marty Motoring agreed. I always take 2nd looks when I see one on the street
If you can get over the boaty feeling of it, it's def a nice car. Even in sport plus its only slightly better. Doesn't have much more more room than an IS I find. Then again just my takeaway from my test drive the other day of a 2015 base GS and 2013 F sport. Not sure if the newer ones are much diff
I want rush out to my near by lexus dealership and buy one just to keep it alive
This one is for sale 😋
Kirk Kreifels for how much ?
www.lexusofomaha.com/new-Omaha-2020-Lexus-+-GS+350+F+SPORT-JTHEZ1CL3LA012177
So what's stopping you?
I really hope they never cancel that awesome car i was just looking for a used prices market for that specific model 🙁
I have a 2014 with 115,000 miles and i am amazed at how amazing it runs. Engine pulls strong. So reliable. I use a k&n air filter and it breathes easier, I get an additional 1 mpg and can feel a bit of extra punch. It's a keeper.
I had two GS400. I loved them.
What do you drive now?
i will not believe it ! hopefully they will not give up this GS !!!! Especially the GS450h is one , if not the best, powerfull Hybrid all around ! But was it so difficult to upddate that Infotainment with the one from the ES ??? OMG ....LEXUS , come on
Yep. No hybrid. No updates.
@@KirkKreifels thx....bad decision. imo.. So i have to buy a used one......thankfully they hold min 300000 km without bigger repairs. I wished they would update that V6Hybrid with a bigger PlugIn pack and second E-motor or bigger e-motor.
Kirk Kreifels
I am getting a ‘19 in the liquid platinum. The reason this car is so much better than the ES is because it’s designed as a rear wheel drive rather than front wheel drive (even though it has AWD). From a handling perspective, RWD bias is where it’s at, IMO.
No doubt! Have fun in your awesome GS
Not just that it's RWD, it's front suspension is a classic (and rare nowadays) double wishbone design. Back in the 90s, most Honda and Acura cars had it, along with many others. In 2019, only select high end cars have double wishbone.
Pube83 Good to know. I haven’t researched that aspect. I just know it will be much more reliable than a BMW 5 Series.
I traded my 2014 GS 350 F Sport for a 2015 Genesis 3.8 (G80) Ultimate. The 2015 is loaded with technology, heads up display, lane keeping assist, and radar cruise. The GS didn’t have any of these features. I may a mistake. I should have waited for a 2016/2017 GS 350 with the same features as the genesis. I miss
The excellent customer service at a Lexus Dealership. It’s not the same as going into a hyundai dealership.
Great testimony. Lexus service is the best for sure.
I had a 2013 GS350 F sport in the rare starfire white for a little over 2 years had to sell for financial reasons but it was the best 48,000 miles ever. such a good all around as a daily driver then perfect for back roads on weekends. Tech was a little slow but the way power was delivered and the way it handled especially with PS4S. I loved it!
It's the perfect all around car...luxury, sportiness, 4 doors, reliability, performance
fuel economy and modern features are the only drawbacks
I bought 2016 F Sport and I love it. Will be keeping it for a long time.
I’m still holding on my 2013 GS 350 Fsport . It has 45k on it now. Still in excellent condition always serviced at Lexus. The reason for the miles is because I have a GMC Sierra as my daily. I know the ES is taking over but I like my rear wheel drive.
That's a great 1-2 combo of vehicles! Thanks for sharing.
My very first vehicle was a GS, for high school graduation in '94. I'm glad it's still around, Lexus perfect vehicles.
My 06 GS300 always gets people thinking it’s a newer car when they’re inside lol
Facts!!!! people always ask what year my car is and i say its an 06 they're like damn i thought it was a bew car
fax
I sometimes think the problem with the gs is that it was such a good car that most people with them never feel a need get a new one. My 15 has 105000, and I just have a hard time justifying getting anything else.
Good point
This is the exact model and package I want!!! This color, those wheels, the triple beam headlights and the spoiler. All I need to do is tint the windows and this bad boy is good to go!
it is stunning
Its a real shame if they discontinue the GS line. As mentioned by others, Lexus inability to update the infotainment was a total injustice to this car. Pound for pound, this was my favorite all around Lexus car. I like this car a lot better then the 5 series. I owned a 2012 for 7 years and not once did I have an issue with it. If doesn't sound like the ES can properly replace the GS, the IS is to small and the LS is to big. Although Lexus didn't sell as many of these, what base they did have will probably leave for a European equivalent.
The GS Levinson stereo system is far superior to the new ES Levinson stereo system. I test drove both cars one after the other and noticed the GS Levinson stereo was much clearer and crisp with hard hitting base. The ES Levinson does get loud and sounds good for sure but distorted a little at higher volumes. While comparing the two though, you notice a huge difference in the GS Levinson stereo while listening to your favorite tracks. The GS version is deeper and more substantial to the fine tuned ear. The GS is more sporty and drives better too. I'd take a nicely appointed used GS over a new ES any day.
Just bought a 2016 F Sport. Loving it.
I just got my GS450H these years it was the last one in Madrid coz every one is buying NX or ES.
I’m totally agree ES has more corks and better nav etc but for me is more important feeling more quality and better handling car and went all the way for the GS even paying 25 grand euros more than the ES with the same executive trim.
Keep it. Add some power and update the rear. Then updated the infotainment and add panoramic roof. This would make it marketable to all others. The new Acura TL Type S is coming out with a NSX modified engine pushing over 350hp.
That sounds awesome!
I love the design of the current GS generation (2013-present).I hope it lives on. But part of me feels like Lexus might surprise us with a new model lol
Love my GS450h. Best car I've owned and can't ever see letting it go
Still loving my 18 RWD F-Sport with 14k on the clock I bought new with Caviar/Red. It's is my forever car that I store in the winters here in the rust belt. RWD is much easier to service the engine vs. the AWD models is one of the reasons I bought it.
Worst mistake Lexus ever did was discontinue the gs ..they should of scraped that es it’s all show and no go…
The ES is their second-highest selling model before the RX, It makes zero sense to discontinue it.
I think if they made the ES AWD then they may get rid of GS. I had fun with the GS. GS & GX are the legends. They have aged more. If they put in more power in this car then the competitors will have to watch out.
Kirk I always liked the in dash navigation screen. Yes, the interior I always loved.
It will happen in 2021 for a 2022 model year 🤞
I currently have a 07 gs450h and my god I can't believe I had it for over a year and it's the longest I've owned any car of mines. I guess that's how great the car is to me knowing I can average up to 34mpg(highway) in a v6. If it's true about the discontinuation of this model I just want to say not goodbye but I'll be looking forward for the GS comeback one day. 🤞❤
Yes that's my feeling. They might bring it back sort of like the Camaro.
It appears as if Lexus has done absolutely nothing different from last year's GS model...and I still want it!
Nor is it any different than a 2016! :D
I admit a fastback design would be nice. Something to compete with the Panamera, Mercedes GT, Audi A7. With the same wheels on the LC 500.
@YungGBone124127134They are the leader of reliability so now if they can make an incredible exterior!
@YungGBone124127134 They clearly have to know how to pull it off. The same engine in the LFA OMG! But i really think theyre brewing up something. I love the look of the 2013 Mercedes CLS but those cars are money pits so I wouldn't buy one.
They were on the right track with the 3rd generation. It really had that "4 door coupe" mystique surrounding it
Hope toyota dnt kill the g.s line..its a legend king toyota..
Well. I have a 2008 Lexus ES 350 I just purchased. So I can't wait to buy a 2018 in a ten years in the used markets. Lexus and Toyota cars dont die and are incredibly well made !
Congratulations on your new car 🥳
I will be sad to see this car go as I’ve been a fan of it since 1998! I think the huge reason for low sales is because the V8 option for a non-F model has been taken away many years ago. This car has everything except the competitive performance of BMW.
GSF
21 combined is bad MPG? My 1999 GS gets about 17 mpg combined and I can’t complain.
I currently own a 2017 IS200t F-Sport & thinking about upgrading to a GS350 in the future. Had my IS for 16 months so far & it's been fantastic so far & saved about $18k over a new one, but may want to go back to a mid-size sedan (had a 2015 Camry XSE V6 prior). The cupholders are my only major complaint in my IS & are in a far better location in the GS. The turbo 4 in my IS is smooth & quiet even at higher revs, but sometimes miss the sound of a V6 & will likely have less problems in the long run.
As always, thanks for the review! The old infotainment, old "slow-to-read music" USB ports, and other non-updated items made me go with the new ES instead. The rear of the 4gen GS is still beautiful!
Yep! Congratulations on your new ES!
Second-generation GS was King. I like the way they offered different choices between v6 and V8 back then. And if I remember correctly they sold them as fast as they could make them. All these years later it's still looks great too. I will be very sad to see the GS go the way of the dodo
Thanks for chiming in. Sad days for the GS ahead barring a miracle.
@@KirkKreifels do you think that also includes the GSF or will they keep it around
Hopefully with the new incoming Lexus president, he fights to give the GS another chance. All this car needs is some simple updating and a all new powertrain.
@@MrMustangrick I mean the Toyota CEO said he really didn't want the current generation , but his managers and product development teams fought to keep it. I personally think it just needs to be elevated to the next level and differentiate itself from the ES, make Lexus GS 500 Grand Coupe with a turbo charged V6 with at least 375 Hp , 21 inch rims,digital gauges, class leading materials and modern infotainment with AWD and they'll have a winner. The question is are they willing to put in the development cost abd would customers but it. I would!
@YungGBone124127134 Exactly! being average isn't going to cut it anymore , step up or move to the side.
@YungGBone124127134 Dude you took the words out my mouth. I love Lexus but the dont do enough to push the envelope. Mercedes and BMW always introduce industry first in there cars and with that things sometimes fail or break quicker than normal, Lexus is smart they wait until features perfected let the Germans get the bad wrap in the beginning and then put it on there cars as standard and sell it like it revolutionary. SMART but people don't care about a company's heritage anymore, whoever makes the best looking, desirable vehicle is winning.
Whoohoo I watched this video 4x. And I have one the 18 GS F sport. I was at the wedding , but not going to the funeral. I either keep this one or if am lucky enough to get the last of the 2020’s. Atomic Silver is smoking
Can you give us any info on the limited edition Black line GS . I know there are only 200 being made. But no word Thanks
I think this car looks classic - 3 box construction: Hood, Passenger middle (with real rear passenger headroom), Trunk (& useful size at that). It defies the current Me-Too fastback trend from other car OEMs (why people want to torture themselves sitting in the rear in these fastback cars. Fastback looks "good" but so impractical).
Car is not in vogue. So, I can see Lexus axing this low volume car. But why Lexus let RC flourish & have an update for RC this year. RC is just a 2 door version of GS (same goes for RC-F & GS-F) Could it be that every manufactures are trying to milk the last cent out from the buyers until even the buyers get tired of the coupes?
I agree brother.
Just a heads up, the RC is unique from the GS. It has a similar front end as the GS but also shares with the IS and IS Convertible.
Always love a well-tuned luxurious sedan that drives well with sporty characteristics and is comfortable and quiet inside the car. No necessity to have the fastest engine and quickest gear shifts. GS fits all these requirement well and it is one of the most appropriate luxurious sports sedan for driving enthusiasts driving.
Lexus should continue the GS line. There needs to be a Lexus competitor to 5-Series and E-Class. Even Infiniti is supposedly going to roll out a new Q70. Lexus can drop the 3.5V6TT from the LS into a new GS.
I thoroughly enjoy your detail-rich reviews. They are some of the most objective, informative reviews on line. I am considering buying a new 2020, but somewhat concerned about buying a new vehicle that hasn’t had significant updates in a few years. On the flip side, all production and engineering bugs should have been resolved. I don’t need bleeding edge infotainment technology. Simply want a high quality, reliable, enjoyable drivers car. Your thoughts?
2016+ are all basically the same. I personally like the 2015 f sport model the best
Yes a great Lexus; Love my GS 350, 2018. Caviar.
Everyone is complaining of its age, yet the JGC is even older and does well. The infotainment is the Achilles heel of this car. Such an easy fix, but Lexus was too stupid to understand that. Thank god Apple CarPlay is finally available as an aftermarket install.
I am holding on to hope that the Mirai will preview the next GS. Even if it is restricted to California and niche markets, just keep the nameplate alive. This is the best car I’ve ever owned and it would be really painful to see it go 😢
Apple CarPlay available as an aftermarket install? Can you tell me where or what brand? Just bought a 2016 and would love to have it installed. Did the same for my 2007 4Runner and now it has 250,000 miles and better tech than a 2019 4Runner, which cracks me up. So where do I get this for my “new” Lexus? thanks!
@@lifeisgood7762
the brand is from Beat-Sonic. Here is the demo!
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Michael Rafael Thanks! I’m on it!
I don’t see why lexus would cancel there car that competes with the E class and 5 series. I still see a lot of them on the road so it can’t be a selling problem
Unfortunately, it is. Numbers aren't that great with the increase in the demand for CUVs. The discontinuation is mostly confirmed but what's uncertain is if they are really willing to change it into a fastback model to complete with Audi 7s/CLS or the 6 series from BMW.
Tony Skafidas E class and 5 series!
D Stew thanks for the correction
I hope Toyota doesn’t kill the GS line. I have owned a 2013 GS350 RWD since new and still love driving it. Great balance between smooth ride and good handling. Very peppy engine. Refined interior except for the useless infotainment system. I was waiting for a redesigned model, but I guess I’ll hold to it a while longer. It’s a great driver’s car. Had an IS before but too cramped. Personally I can’t stand how the ES drives.
Totally agree Apple’s to oranges when it comes to the way both drive . It’s sad to hear from the salesmen and managers that the simple fix is to add AWD to the ES. I told them all ,they have no clue. Or they have a lousy sale pitch to transplant the GS owners .That won’t work
It would be cool if lexus made the GS an all electric car that would compete with Tesla and the Mach E, etc. And I kind of like the idea of a fast-back GS that would be interesting also
Sounds tempting!
You were so right - This happens to be the last GS. At least you guys have it in the states.
The GS can most definitely be reseructed
The current gen although so old is only missing modern tech
It looks like it's a new design inside out it means when it came out it was and is a really good vehicle
The gs450h was definlty ahead of its time as it was a perfromcne hybrid rather than economy and now is the time for that
The only thing that has to happen with the GS is new technology
A plug in in performance hybrid as well as a good turbo engine
With latest tech similar to es,ls and latest rx
Well said!
100% agreed. the 4cylHybrid in the ES is much to weak on our speeedlimitfree autobahn and shut down at 180 km/h ? The GS450H run smooth in its limiter at 240km/h were all our german cars do.
I have 2008 rwd gs350, this car is epic .... I insanely fast ... with 2GR-FSE engine
This videos quality is crazy
Thanks man!
Just bought my wife a 2015 F Sport. Absolutely love the car.
Congratulations 🎉
i own a gs 450 h since 2016. its the best car i owned in 4 decades, better than any german premium car. i ll drive the gs 450 as long as possible.
It has been a pleasure to drive 2006 GS300.
Redesign turbocharged V6 and make into a Fastback.
PlugIn Hbrid version with bigger or second e-motor should be good for 450hp easily.. RAV4PLugIn cranks out 302hp with only the 2.5ltr !
I have GS300 (2018.10)
GS IS NOT BAD !
GS is lovely
Really miss my 2013 F sport, had to sell because bouncing overseas,
Still miss it big time! It was a dealer buy back so I saved tons of cash but knew it would be solid. After four years and three years with the new buyer (work mate), its never had an issue in seven years. Think BMW can do that. The moment I have an opportunity to get another one it will be a done deal.
You were correct about lexus killing this vehicle. It is what it is. I will buy one this year or the next
Not these two are even comparable but when I see a GS, it reminds me of the discontinued Ford Crown Vic. Everyone lamented about it’s history and unique features but no one I knew bought one. Though the cars were significant during their time, they declined with obsolescence and what kills most vehicles is poor sales.
People who would want this car wouldn't care that much about fuel economy. If they did, they'd just get the ES.
it's really a pity that Lexus cancels GS series. I own a 2016 GS300H. To be honest, I think hybrid GS with ECVT transmission is the best in the middle size sedan segment, given that I don't have any child :)
I have a 2015 GS sport and wowww I love it
I never understood the difference between the GS and the ES other than the GS is RWD. The GS doesn't have more bells and whistles than the ES?
I am sure this is a wonderful car and a technological marvel. But for me, the first two generations are my favorites.
Welp, just bought a used 2013 Lexus GS 350 w/luxury package! Might get another GS (2014 - 2016) later in the future. These vehicles may become collectors items later on.. we shall see!!
Hope to own a GS one day
I believe it will be revived with a new design in the late 2020s
I am trying to bring in that paddle shifter into my living room. Because sometimes I just don’t like to let it go
I know this is an older video but just wanted to say thank you for this review.. I'm looking for a used car I prefer Japanese cars... made in Japan cars.. so this video helped. Hope Lexus doesn't pull the plug but in the current market I could see it happening. :/ Crazy how good cars never make it over here.. maddening. Anyway.. thanks :)
The infotainment controls are the biggest zonk of the car
I agree
Love my Lexus GS 350 F sport. This car has such an elegant interior, smooth ride, and ample hp. I cant imagine Lexus stopping production of this car. This is the most sporty car they have. It would be a big mistake to do this. The Lexus ES looks reminds me too much of a camry and the IS is too small.
Hey at 1:40 "newest Lexus Headlight" => is this newest triple beam headlight available on the 19 ES 350?
My local Lexus dealership said they were ending the GS line very soon about 5 months ago.
Sad truth.
Amazing quality car it’s worth every penny
Lexus is not getting rid of the GS. The development cost spent to develop the RWD GA-L platform on the LS and LC will never get payed off at the rate those two models are selling at. Lexus will have to build a couple more RWD based high volume Lexus models to offset some of the development cost.
The LS and GS aren't for profit. That's what the RX NX and ES are for.
Kirk Kreifels If you know Toyota, you know they don’t mass produce cars to be unprofitable! They are a very conservative company. The 4GS is very profitable for Toyota (development cost was payed off years ago). The next generation GS will be a huge departure from what your use to seeing from Lexus. Toyota/Lexus has announced they are going bullish on sedans.
I have a ultrasonic blue mica 2.0 on order and it will be ready in March! Although it is a lease, I may consider buying it out if they do discontinue it. I cant wait!
Congratulations 🎉 we have one coming in soon. I can't wait to see it.
The GS "300" is getting discontinued not the other GS models. Only the basic cheap entry level model. Lexus/Toyota NEVER said the entire GS model will be axed.
No they haven't said anything...yet
Love the Gs, I have had 2 but the car needs a refresh look with character lines. The side panels look similar to my 2010.
Awesome car. Very small fuel tank though. I get 13 mpg on my 2013 GS350 AWD in cold winter city driving mostly and 17 mpg in summer.
I just bought a slightly used 2014 GS 350 with 50k miles! Looks , feels and drives BRAND NEW! First time I owned a Lexus. I had a Toyota SUV once! Sold it after 5 yrs it was dependable but cheap materials and bad interior specially the fake leather.
So disappointed. I always owned an Acura. Started with a 2002 Acura TL type S and then 2017 Acura MDX.
But this Lexus GS is nothing compared to my Acura!
GS is over engineered to perfection!
Example its insulations from the door panel to its engine compartment!
Amazingly built to perfection . I will keep my Acuras but will buy Lexus from now on.