Nice comparison. They almost look the same while they fly. Although the camera from the Happy Model is slightly better. Did you squeeze the lemon at the flights or where you cruising?
I tried to fly as fast as I could without crashing. I'm sure someone who is a better pilot could fly faster. The only moment I felt I was flying at the limit of the whoop was at the end of the battery with 17500kv motors. Voltage sag makes the 17500kv whoop a little underpowered.
Tomasz Łęgowski the gemfan props are definitely good props, very durable and the only bad part is they suck down the battery a bit more but they are very good. The hq props are good and they are a bit better for amp draw but they are not durable at all. They break and bend very easily! All in all I’m pretty happy we finally have good prop options.
Myślę nad odbiornikiem crossfire nano. Nie widziałem żeby ktoś w tak małych dronach go uzywal .Trudno przylutować go do płytki? Mam x-lite aparature i chce dokupić moduł crossfire
Bardzo polecam. Jest super lekki, niezawodny i działa szybciej (ma mniejsze opóźnienie). Problemem są tylko trochę dłuższe anteny, bo trzeba je jakoś umieścić na małym dronie, ale warto się pomęczyć. Oczywiście zasięg który crossfire oferuje nie jest potrzebny w małych dronach, bo daleko i tak nie polecą, ale z drugiej strony małymi dronami lata się w pomieszczeniach, które są zabrudzone w paśmie 2.4 i 868 crossfire oferuje większą poprawę niż niektórzy twierdzą.
Nice flying mate! I was thinking about buying the 19000kv motors. How hot are the motors coming back doing 3mins plus... and are your still using the stock batts that come with the ur/uk65??
0802 19000kv motors on 1s, as I was flying on this video don't get hot at all. On both flights I used 220mah 45c Brainergy battery (similar to tattu 220mah 45c). With stock 250mah 40c it flies well but you don't get any more punch, only a little longer flight. I prefer 220mah.
I'm considering replacement motors for my 0603. I like the power of the stock motor but surely flight time is pretty bad. I've noticed the stock motor power varies dramatically from full to empty battery. Since these motors draw so much less amps is the power drop off last dramatic? How's are the flying characteristics happymodel 0802 19000kv vs stock 0603 19000kv?
0802 19000kv isn't slower than 0603 19000kv. Quite the opposite. Because of less voltage sag you have more thrust. Whoop with 0802 motors is only a 1 gram heavier but you don't feel it in flight.
I use crossfire on my whoops. The 99 rssi ('link quality' to be precise) is accurate. You need to fly really far away to get lower link quality with crossfire.
Never used futaba, but if it's working on 2.4GHz in house with wifi than this may cause some problems. I use crossfire micro TX set to 250mW and crossfire nano RX with one dipole antenna situated on the ducts of the frame.
Iv been getting about 3mins flight times with 19000kv and less sag than the stock motors! Any chance you can share your pids cause I'm getting vibrations/ocilation through to the camera? Thanks
Which props do you use? I use Eachine e010 props 4 bladed with 0.8mm shaft hole in which I must drill a 1mm hole. I ask because I see how less they vibrate comparing to other props. Especially the 31mm props with 1mm available at Banggood. If you use less vibrating props betaflight pid and filter settings aren't that important. But if you use more vibrating props all you do in betaflight doesn't really help. I use slightly modified project mockingbird v3 tune which you can find through Google. If using that tune you have vibrations you may have bad props (which you should feel with your hand) or bad motors. But sometimes vibrations may be caused by other factors (bad battery connection can also cause instability easily confused with vibrations).
@@tomaszegowski1607 ok thanks for the help bro. I redrilled the holes cause I noticed they where sitting a bit high that sorted it right out! My bad lol
Hi, have you tried the happymodel 19000kV vs the BetaFPV 19500kV (roughly same kV from 2 different manufacturers). But initially, my BetaFPV 19500kV has pretty short flight time, only 2:30-2:50 on 300mAh. Under 2 mins for 250mAh 1S. Looks like your Happy model 19000kV on 240mAh already has much better efficiency than my betaFPV 19500kV. My setup is 21.9g and I've made sure that the connector is cause of voltage sag (changing new connectors few times and used solid pin PH 2.0)
Happymodel and betafpv 0802 motors are compatible with uk65 frame. Although I think the ur65 frame and especially betafpv frames are better (they don't break)
![UK65/US65 on 1s 450mah 75c Tattu battery [full flight]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bosyjcn-MLc/mqdefault.jpg)
![UK65/US65 on 1s 450mah 75c Tattu battery [full flight]](/img/tr.png)
You are my man, I accidentally ordered the 19000kv for my Mobula7 and a UR65 is also on my way.
Glad to have this as an option.
Happy flying!
Nice comparison. They almost look the same while they fly. Although the camera from the Happy Model is slightly better. Did you squeeze the lemon at the flights or where you cruising?
I tried to fly as fast as I could without crashing. I'm sure someone who is a better pilot could fly faster. The only moment I felt I was flying at the limit of the whoop was at the end of the battery with 17500kv motors. Voltage sag makes the 17500kv whoop a little underpowered.
Hej Tomasz, I really like your comparison vids and music taste. Looking for more :) Have you tried new brushless whoop props by GemFan and HQProp?
Thank you. I ordered small Gemfans, hope they will ship fast.
Tomasz Łęgowski the gemfan props are definitely good props, very durable and the only bad part is they suck down the battery a bit more but they are very good. The hq props are good and they are a bit better for amp draw but they are not durable at all. They break and bend very easily! All in all I’m pretty happy we finally have good prop options.
Myślę nad odbiornikiem crossfire nano. Nie widziałem żeby ktoś w tak małych dronach go uzywal .Trudno przylutować go do płytki? Mam x-lite aparature i chce dokupić moduł crossfire
Bardzo polecam. Jest super lekki, niezawodny i działa szybciej (ma mniejsze opóźnienie). Problemem są tylko trochę dłuższe anteny, bo trzeba je jakoś umieścić na małym dronie, ale warto się pomęczyć. Oczywiście zasięg który crossfire oferuje nie jest potrzebny w małych dronach, bo daleko i tak nie polecą, ale z drugiej strony małymi dronami lata się w pomieszczeniach, które są zabrudzone w paśmie 2.4 i 868 crossfire oferuje większą poprawę niż niektórzy twierdzą.
Nice flying mate! I was thinking about buying the 19000kv motors. How hot are the motors coming back doing 3mins plus... and are your still using the stock batts that come with the ur/uk65??
0802 19000kv motors on 1s, as I was flying on this video don't get hot at all. On both flights I used 220mah 45c Brainergy battery (similar to tattu 220mah 45c). With stock 250mah 40c it flies well but you don't get any more punch, only a little longer flight. I prefer 220mah.
Hi! Nice vid again!!! How the hell did you wire the crossfire nano on the stock uk65 board?????
Managed to do it!!! Rx3 + Tx3 then smartaudio to the nano itself (ch4)
I'm considering replacement motors for my 0603. I like the power of the stock motor but surely flight time is pretty bad. I've noticed the stock motor power varies dramatically from full to empty battery. Since these motors draw so much less amps is the power drop off last dramatic? How's are the flying characteristics happymodel 0802 19000kv vs stock 0603 19000kv?
0802 19000kv isn't slower than 0603 19000kv. Quite the opposite. Because of less voltage sag you have more thrust. Whoop with 0802 motors is only a 1 gram heavier but you don't feel it in flight.
@@tomaszegowski1607 thanks for the quick reply. Now I need to find where I can get them quickly in the USA
Your rssi keep 99,working? I now using beta65 pro 1s swap to 75mm frame n 0802 19k kv. My whoop distance to short..
I use crossfire on my whoops. The 99 rssi ('link quality' to be precise) is accurate. You need to fly really far away to get lower link quality with crossfire.
Now i am using futaba sfhss. I dnt know why the distance very close..not reach 100m. Less than 50m. What tx u use? Tbs nano rx?
Never used futaba, but if it's working on 2.4GHz in house with wifi than this may cause some problems. I use crossfire micro TX set to 250mW and crossfire nano RX with one dipole antenna situated on the ducts of the frame.
Iv been getting about 3mins flight times with 19000kv and less sag than the stock motors! Any chance you can share your pids cause I'm getting vibrations/ocilation through to the camera? Thanks
Which props do you use? I use Eachine e010 props 4 bladed with 0.8mm shaft hole in which I must drill a 1mm hole. I ask because I see how less they vibrate comparing to other props. Especially the 31mm props with 1mm available at Banggood. If you use less vibrating props betaflight pid and filter settings aren't that important. But if you use more vibrating props all you do in betaflight doesn't really help. I use slightly modified project mockingbird v3 tune which you can find through Google. If using that tune you have vibrations you may have bad props (which you should feel with your hand) or bad motors. But sometimes vibrations may be caused by other factors (bad battery connection can also cause instability easily confused with vibrations).
@@tomaszegowski1607 ok thanks for the help bro. I redrilled the holes cause I noticed they where sitting a bit high that sorted it right out! My bad lol
Hi, have you tried the happymodel 19000kV vs the BetaFPV 19500kV (roughly same kV from 2 different manufacturers). But initially, my BetaFPV 19500kV has pretty short flight time, only 2:30-2:50 on 300mAh. Under 2 mins for 250mAh 1S. Looks like your Happy model 19000kV on 240mAh already has much better efficiency than my betaFPV 19500kV.
My setup is 21.9g and I've made sure that the connector is cause of voltage sag (changing new connectors few times and used solid pin PH 2.0)
Hi , 0802 support for uk65 frame?
nice video thanks
Happymodel and betafpv 0802 motors are compatible with uk65 frame. Although I think the ur65 frame and especially betafpv frames are better (they don't break)
Tomasz Łęgowski yeah I second that, the betafpv frames are kinda rubbery and very durable!!
Will it still turtle mode with the 17500 and 19000 kv 802?
Sure. Turtle mode isn't affected in any way by this motor change.