Yup! Jays only had 156 HR as a team last year. We need at least 190HR this year if we want to compete. That likely means adding two big bats in the #4 and #5 spots.
Honestly I think the not offering max fried a contract thing is a little blown out of proportion. The jays coulda been interested in him and when contacted him he coulda said he’s not interested in the jays so why offer a contract if he says no chance?
You know what might make Vlad more open to resigning, bringing his old bestie back for 4 years. Go get Teo! FUCK NO, Devon Williams are you god damn kidding me brothers. Blue Jays are literally a clown college right now.
I understand that some Jays fans want that reunion with Teo but it isn't worth the price. The energy of once was wont be there. Bo and Vlad will likely be gone and Teo will be the best bat in the lineup? It's not the right move for a number of reasons.
Because the Dodgers signed Michael Conforto, and they already have a full time DH. They probably are not interested in giving Teo a three or four year contract like other teams.
With Corbin Burnes commits that the Blue Jays haven’t showing they want to win now with not having Vladdy or Bo is signed and he’s right on that because you don’t have your 2 franchise players signed who would want to sign here because of that. Have to fire Ross Atkinson if Vladdy isn’t signed by the end of January
Caleb Durbin looks decent even if he isn't on top 30 prospect. Similar OPS to Barger in AAA. 2B/3B. Steals bases at a good clip and walks more than he strikeout. Classic over achiever 14th round, 5'6, Div 3 school. Likely will get some time at second with Dunn and Monasterio should Ortiz stay at 3rd and Turang move over to SS.
Jays chasing the latest and greatest FA is like a scub of a dude going to a club and chasing the prettiest girl one after the other praying that one will say yes to something.
Vladdy is probably going to free agency now based on Soto contract. You’re right though, we should have signed Vladdy to a 17 year contract back in 2021.
I don’t want teoscar back he’s 32 i would much rather Santander or a Bregman or maybe move vladdy to third base and sign Pete Alonso it’s been reported that he might not go back to the Mets
I think the Gimenez trade was a bad one. Out of all of the positions the Jays need an upgrade they now have another 2nd baseman. Is that really what they need? This is just another sign of wrong direction. Gimenez is not a lead off bat.
Now they can trade Bo to a team like Atlanta for an RP plus prospects, shift Gimenez to SS, and make a spot for Will Wagner at 2B. If they don’t make this kind of move I would be really disappointed. Will Wagner crushed it last year on a bummed knee. He deserves a shot at 2B.
@ I think the Andres Gimenez trade opened the door on a possible Bo trade. I think many teams would still be interested in Bo even though he’s coming off a bad season. Bo has usually been a 4 or 5 fWAR player until last season. Even if he is valued as a 2.5 fWAR player this year a good RP is a 1.5 fWAR. It’s very realistic that Jays trade Bo to a team like Atlanta for a good RP plus prospects. Especially if it is unlikely that Bo will sign with Toronto in free agency.
@@mcfarlac1 I don't see any world where Gimenez is a replacement for Bo. That's definitely a downgrade offensively. Jays don't need more defense. They are losing due to lack of offense. If we are settling for mediocrity with peaks and valleys then they should have kept IKF to fill various roles for less money and commitment.
We need more than just one power bat. For us to compete we need two plus pitching additions. (In my opinion)
Yup! Jays only had 156 HR as a team last year. We need at least 190HR this year if we want to compete. That likely means adding two big bats in the #4 and #5 spots.
That projected line up card for 2025 looks like swiss cheese - too many holes to fill!!!
Besides Vladdy and a huge bounce back from Bo. This will be another last place finish!
Give him more then Semien 250-350 million
If you can make Gimenez a hitting contributor with the bat, you can make anyone a hitter.
Honestly I think the not offering max fried a contract thing is a little blown out of proportion. The jays coulda been interested in him and when contacted him he coulda said he’s not interested in the jays so why offer a contract if he says no chance?
You know what might make Vlad more open to resigning, bringing his old bestie back for 4 years. Go get Teo!
FUCK NO, Devon Williams are you god damn kidding me brothers. Blue Jays are literally a clown college right now.
Atkins about to repeat last offseason again and no power bat
Better pick up Turner while he's available 😅
Rowdy Tellez reunion incoming...
I understand that some Jays fans want that reunion with Teo but it isn't worth the price. The energy of once was wont be there. Bo and Vlad will likely be gone and Teo will be the best bat in the lineup? It's not the right move for a number of reasons.
WHY would Teo want to come back to the Jays (after just winning a World Series with the Dodgers). MAKES NO SENSE!!
Because the Dodgers signed Michael Conforto, and they already have a full time DH. They probably are not interested in giving Teo a three or four year contract like other teams.
He may not have LA as a choice.
With Corbin Burnes commits that the Blue Jays haven’t showing they want to win now with not having Vladdy or Bo is signed and he’s right on that because you don’t have your 2 franchise players signed who would want to sign here because of that. Have to fire Ross Atkinson if Vladdy isn’t signed by the end of January
Aaaand all the way full circle back around to Teo.
How absolutely embarrassing.
I agree. It's like a bad romance. Jays thought they were better without Teo and now have the idea that they aren't the same without Teo. It is sad.
Marte was officially on the trade block the moment the ink dried on Soto’s contract.
Starling or Ketel?
Less than 700 million offer to Soto, no offer to Fried..... wtf is going on?
Let martinez play
Sounds like if Yankees miss out on Walker, they are likely to pivot to Sanatander...even if they trade for Bellinger.
Caleb Durbin looks decent even if he isn't on top 30 prospect. Similar OPS to Barger in AAA. 2B/3B. Steals bases at a good clip and walks more than he strikeout. Classic over achiever 14th round, 5'6, Div 3 school. Likely will get some time at second with Dunn and Monasterio should Ortiz stay at 3rd and Turang move over to SS.
Jays chasing the latest and greatest FA is like a scub of a dude going to a club and chasing the prettiest girl one after the other praying that one will say yes to something.
Based on Ross Atkins experience in the clubs 20% of the time that works every time.
The Dodgers aren't going to give Teo a 4 year deal. Maybe 2. 4 years is too long term for him.
TRADE FOR CHRISTAN YELICH- WE CAN'T SIGN ANYONE
Extend Vladdy FIRST, THEN players will POSSIBLY SIGN
Vladdy is probably going to free agency now based on Soto contract. You’re right though, we should have signed Vladdy to a 17 year contract back in 2021.
Sign Teo, and Vlad will possibly agree to extend.
Would be good but he’s better off with a contender team
Is Boras Teo's agent?
Republik Sports is his agent. Thankfully Teo is not with Boras.
One big problem is
The JAYS don't have a farm system
Take it back!!
How do these reporters define "all in"?
The White Sox and A's have a comparable lineup than this dumpster fire
lol the Blue Jays arent doing anything...stop believing they will.
Season will be just as bad as last unless more additions are made by the GM
Vlad is def gone they won’t spend 300 on Burnes let alone more for Vlad
Kirk aint gonna hit .270 lol. Even if he did. Whats that like 12 hr and running into 39 million double plays
The writing is on the wall ..vladdy is gone next year bo is gone next year...there not trying to win cause is rebuild next year
The Jays should trade Bassitt to the Giants.
What do the Giants have that the Blue Jays need?
@Dulcimerist the Giants maybe wouldn't go after CB
@Dulcimerist even if we just get some decent prospects. 22 million would be sacrificed some but management has to get creative and make shit happen.
Everybody get your clown noses ready for next season. This team is going to be abysmal...
I don’t want teoscar back he’s 32 i would much rather Santander or a Bregman or maybe move vladdy to third base and sign Pete Alonso it’s been reported that he might not go back to the Mets
Heys guys - the proper way to present yourselves are as Co - Hosts
I think the Gimenez trade was a bad one. Out of all of the positions the Jays need an upgrade they now have another 2nd baseman. Is that really what they need? This is just another sign of wrong direction. Gimenez is not a lead off bat.
Now they can trade Bo to a team like Atlanta for an RP plus prospects, shift Gimenez to SS, and make a spot for Will Wagner at 2B. If they don’t make this kind of move I would be really disappointed. Will Wagner crushed it last year on a bummed knee. He deserves a shot at 2B.
@@mcfarlac1 Jays aren't going to trade low for Bo. Best trade scenario is a rent-a-player later in the season if at all.
@ I think the Andres Gimenez trade opened the door on a possible Bo trade. I think many teams would still be interested in Bo even though he’s coming off a bad season. Bo has usually been a 4 or 5 fWAR player until last season. Even if he is valued as a 2.5 fWAR player this year a good RP is a 1.5 fWAR. It’s very realistic that Jays trade Bo to a team like Atlanta for a good RP plus prospects. Especially if it is unlikely that Bo will sign with Toronto in free agency.
@@mcfarlac1 I don't see any world where Gimenez is a replacement for Bo. That's definitely a downgrade offensively. Jays don't need more defense. They are losing due to lack of offense. If we are settling for mediocrity with peaks and valleys then they should have kept IKF to fill various roles for less money and commitment.
Blue jays will not put a team together they talk a big talk and that’s it