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Man, I'm going to have to disagree on the flagship portion of the video. Particularly the statement "there is no reason to buy the 22 Exist", I know a large part of your judgement was that it "doesn't have any less resistance than the 18", and you can only judge the examples you had in front of you, but as you mentioned the Luvias frees up with use, so does the 22 Exist🤷. I have all 4 reels in the sizes you use most, Vanquish in C2000S, Exist and Luvias Airity in 2000SC, and Stella in 1000. Yes, the Exist has a lot of resistance out of the box, but after 2 weeks that changes, and it now has the lowest inertia of any reel I own, yes, less than my Vanquish and Stella, and the resistance has disappeared so much it's almost as low as the Vanquish also. It also 100% has less of both metrics than the Luvias Airity... My Exist is also MUCH smoother than my Vanquish, Exsence, and 3 Twinpower XD's, which all share the same internals, and although definitely not as powerful as the Stella FK, it's still more powerful than a same size Vanquish, lighter than the Stella, and the same weight as the Vanquish in sizes 2500 and up, with all this in mind I'm struggling to understand why you say it's not worth buying? It's essential a far more premium Vanquish, I think there is definitely a market for that! The argument in 4000/5000 sizes is even stronger, a 5000 Stella FK has immense inertia and a 5000 Vanquish isn't even close in terms of refinement to Stella or Exist, I know this is a UL buyers guide but you did give the Stella points for being a great bass reel so I think this inclusion is fair. Respectfully, with the experience I have, I just have to disagree.
i have no problem with anything in your post actually, and I am sure the resistance will be reduced significantly with time. Also you are right that I am making this call just based one this one sample I had. But you tell me what would you do, if you had only one sample, and the resistance didn't disappear in the one week you fished it, and you didn't find anything else superior to the outgoing model?? What would you do? Not give recommendation because you had only one model? Then i can't have youtube channel, as i can't buy 10 reels of every model, and definitely don't have time to fish them all. I agree with your points but I am going to repeat, that the sample I had absolutely nothing better than the old model, that i can buy for $400 with Luvias Airity
@@ifishcatfish Hey man, I appreciate you taking the time to read my comment and reply in context to what I wrote, you'd be surprised how many times I've written something and the reply had absolutely nothing to do with what I had written 😂, I have a feeling the same happens to you often? Haha. Yea I can't judge you for that, you had the reels you had, and have a channel to keep supplied with content, so you made what you had work. I personally would have put emphasis on the circumstance, not being able to test for long as they had to be returned, limited experience across different models etc and speaking only for what you had and what you fish for, but I can't hold that against you entirely as you do mention "no 2 reels are the same" quite a lot, and do state you base performance heavily on UL lures and techniques also, so overall you do a great job. I just think some angler's/single time viewers may take your word as definite regarding the reels as a whole, which may put some off what may have been the perfect reel for what they do, I know this isn't your fault, but sometimes people are people... Based on your observations, the 22 Exist is not worth the extra over the Luvias Airity for UL fishing, I get that 100%. However in my experience I do think overall the Exist has its merits, and the liquid metal look, although slightly plain to others is quite beautiful, no other reel looks like it's made of mercury, I know it's not for everyone but it's something different also. In conclusion, you definitely make high quality videos, I just don't know about flat out saying the 22 Exist is pointless, I do believe it has it's place, especially in comparison to the Stella FK and Vanquish. I agree it is somewhat blurry when the Luvi Airity is included, but to me this doesn't mean the Vanquish and Stella are from heaven or something, which I think sometimes is how it comes across.
Hi there, sorry for my check in without invitation but I guess you woudn't mind 🙂 For the most part I agree with Victor but you are right for some things... I can't understand why would brand new exist reduce resistance after longer period of usage, like a week isn't enough. It is flag ship reed, should be perfect from the first day. And yes, Victor said there are no two reels that are the same, but for a flagship from daiwa or shimano, I do expect that all the copies of exist work the same way. Do not worry for those who watch this video and make a choise what to buy, it is not possible that this video will affect someone's mind that much to convince him not to buy exist, it is a matter of presige I guess 🙂 Anyway, great elaboration of your arguments, it was useful to know some practical facts from the your personal experience. Have a nice day. 🍻
@@bozhidarvorukov7348 Not true at all, Vanford gears are almost exactly the same as Vanquish and Twinpower gears, I actually think Vanford gears stay smooth for longer due to the hard coating, Vanquish/Twinpower gears turn rough quickly when used in more stressful situation. How do I know? I have 7 twinpowers, of various series and sizes, including all 3 current reels, lol. And Daiwa's anti reverse clutch does not cause all the resistance. I used to think it was just the magnets above the clutch (as they have gotten stronger since 2014 to better keep the oil in place), but as I_fish has also pointed out over time the reels do indeed lose a lot of the resistance and become quite free, so now I think it may a combination of the grease and how tight these Daiwa's are assembled instead, I don't think it is solely the anti reverse clutch at all🤷.
Great stuff! I bought a rod and a reel following your reviews and - after a year - I still fish with them almost everyday, almost forgetting that I have other gear. Thanks!
You have some of the best reel review videos on TH-cam, and yes I consider this video a reel review. I really enjoy the disassembly videos. I like to know if what I’m buying will last and the quality of what I cannot see. Most people’s reviews are very cosmetic and they have no clue about the construction of the product. It’s just pretty and they like it.
well, if u know me enough u will know I like pretty too! : ) . But I do know what's inside. But I will knowingly put inferior reel on my rod, just to match the colors.
Great Video Vic! I'm so glad I picked up the Vanquish in the C2000S, C2000SHG, C2500SHG and 2500S this year from Dig. when they were $324 Shipped. I do have to agree that the 22 Stella C2000SHG I purchased is almost exactly 1 Oz. heavier than the 2000 Vanquish and over a 1/2 oz. heavier than the Vanford 2000. The Stella is without a doubt smoother and more refined but when UL fishing for Trout I still find myself reaching for the Vanquish.
Great clear buying guide. I don't really have money for any more gear, but I just love watching your reviews. Hope to one day get a reel under 150 grams...
I bought a 1000 & 3000 size Miravel and am really enjoying how light they are. I was looking at the ultegra, but I opted for the lighter reel. I have them paired up to a Dobyns Sierra Trout and Panfish Rod and a Shimano Zodias rod. I fish from the bank here in the desert. Hiking for long stretches in the triple digit heat, so having very light combos for fishing all day is important to me. I'm in my 40s now and my wrists were hurting with my budget combos. I just got back from a Gila Trout fishing trip in the low desert mountains. My son and me fished hard for two days and my wrists are fine.
The two reels weigh the same, unless u want to tell me you can tell a 2 gram difference. You have been watching the wrong channels. Ultegra is better than Miravel, and Zodias and Dobyns are not real Ultralight rods. Those are bass rods with ultralight tips. Sorry, that doesn't make it an ultralight rod. Most reviews on youtube are sh#t, done by people who know nothing about gear or ultralight fishing.
@@ifishcatfish You're probably right about the weight difference. I don't own an Ultegra, so I wouldn't know if it's a noticeable difference in quality when actually using them on the water. Just to clarify the Zodias is my 6'9" ML bass fishing drop shot, wacky worm, and neko rig rod that I have paired up with the 3000 Miravel. It is definitely for bass fishing. I've been killing it with this combo too. I fish for anything that is in the lake. I'll target carp if that's all I'm seeing, so I have a variety of rods and reels. There is no Zodias UL as far as I know. The Dobyns Sierra Trout and Panfish Rod is a true Fast Action UL, which I prefer for using small 1/32-3/32 jig heads. I have an older Okuma SST UL which is more of a traditional UL rod, but I don't like using that one for jigs. It's better suited for float fishing or treble hook baits since it has a true parabolic bend. For example, if I'm throwing a 1 inch Rapala jerkbait I'm going to use the Okuma SST. It'll keep them pinned for sure. Maybe, it's just the way I fish, but I have a better hook up ratio on jigs with the stiffer Dobyns than what would be considered a true UL rod like the Okuma SST. I just prefer the Dobyns for micro drop shots, or any bottom contact applications, which is the primary techniques I'm using. Either way I think my next UL rod is going to be a St Croix Avid series and I may pick up an Ultegra for it 😂
Great timing on this video! Thanks will definitely share with others. Like your choices and definitely waiting to see what reels Daiwa and Shimano update this year. Btw only have ordered spare spools for two of my spinning reels. The Complex XR 2500 which the 2500 comes with felt washers and yep you know the other one. Looking forward to a updated Tatula LT though and saving up for the next Vanquish. Hopefully that don’t include all the features of the new Stella. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
Vanquish wins hands down! I totally agree… I am surprised to hear that Luvias in U.S. costs under 300 $, here in Europe it is still close to 400$ ! In a way I love the kind of “buttery “ feeling that has the Luvias when turning the handle but drag sound suxxx 😅! We don’t get the Airity, at least in Italy but I am pretty sure even in the rest of the EU. To me right now Vanquish is the Shimano ultimate UL reel , and Airity for Daiwa … Nice vids as usual 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
You have to grease your carbon disc drags, then they are smooth as silk and last forever. I use Cal's drag grease. Great video Victor! Keep them coming!
were u the one who asked me about this? several people asked me about this. Heavy grease helps alot with consistency of carbon, but lets be clear, it aint never gona feel as good as felt. There is a reason the Vanquish and Presso LTD come with felt!
@@ifishcatfish I agree, the grease definitely smooths out the carbon drag but it doesn’t beat the smoothness of felt. Carbon drag has its place and in my opinion it should not be on finesse reels. Carbon drag is designed to create lots of friction so you can put the brakes on big fish. It doesn’t require much friction to wear down smaller fish.
@@DV-ol7vt when u create a lot of friction, it is HARD to slowly release line. It holds, holds, holds, and then when it lets go, releases a lot of line at once. The heavy grease acts as extra brake to slow it down when it comes lose and starts flying..
Great review, all the reels I have been thinking about buying. Vanford, Luvias and Presso in 2000 size. If you needed 2 new reels in that size, which ones would you choose? I´ll most likely use them with komaya drag.
i have individual reviews of each reel if the detail here was not enough for you. To pick between these 3 reels depends on what is important for you, and obviously only you know that
Just got a great deal on the Shimano Sahara C2000S for Christmas-what rod would you pair it with for throwing crappie jigs/mini swimbaits to exotics (peacock bass, Oscars, tilapia) and largemouth bass in south Florida? I’ve had huge success with your recommendation of the Daiwa Regal LT paired with Shakespeare Micro Light. I’ve caught dozens of fish on that combo, even my PB 4# largie this week!
The Stella 1000 balances perfectly on a G.Loomis GLX 721S SJR it has become my favorite setup. It’s not an ultralight but it’s a light rod and it works great for smallmouth. Honestly I would say it’s the perfect creek fishing setup because the backbone is essentially a medium while the tip is light and it really lets you throw a lot of the ultralight lures well while having the backbone to handle about anything you’ll encounter there. It’s closer to a ML than an UL but it seems to be perfect for my intended use.
@@ifishcatfish I also have a GCX Lite and Moonshine Rambler and it basically feels like holding the reel without holding a rod at all. It’s hard to find anything at all that balances the GCX Lite to be fair. I also just bought a Presso travel rod. Since it’s a bit heavier I might be able to kind of balance it lol
Great video, I just have one question. Would you say the Daiwa Caldia is competition to the vanford family? My rod (a very light Silverna Lago) goes perfectly with the Caldia, because it has gold accents. Colors matter to me, but the soare is a bit too expensive. The caldia in my country is almost half the price of the soare. I saw your video on the Caldia and you were not very happy with it, which turns me off of it. Should I risk it with the Caldia, buy a vanford that doesnt go well visually or just buy a safe Exceler?
No, it is not. I think the frame was graphite instead of carbon and it is heavier. Also it doesn't have the Luvias gears. It's a beautiful reel, and that's why I bought it, and then sold it. If your reel is quiet though (mine was loud) and the weight balances good with your rod, just enjoy your combo, as it is still a good reel. The Vanford is not competition for Vanquish either, but I enjoy all of my Vanfords anyway. I enjoy my daiwa legalis and my Sahara too! Don't let this bother u at all
@@ifishcatfish Thanks for the quick answer! I will definitely think more about it and I know whichever reel I choose its going to do the job! I like how informative your videos are, keep it up!
We have very similar taste, I'm a Daiwa fan that likes slow taper rods and hates gold handles reels. :) Also I'm a stickler for color matching the combo and also don't like mixing rid and reel brands if I can avoid it
i dont know what u are fishing for... if its not too heavy i would get the Vanford. If its heavier or you are bass fishing and doing crazy hooksets, u can go with sustain.
Hey ifish question, is it still the case that daiwa and shimano products won’t show up as discounted in your cart at all, only on your receipt after you made the purchase? Saw it on the reel test’s vid last year. on the website it says shimano and daiwa is excluded from the sale. Could scare ppl off from buying maybe!
I don't consider aluminum reels for ultralight fishing. They are heavy and not cheap. They are great for bass fishing and saltwater fishing. If u spend that kind of money go with Vanford. Or save $50 and get Ultegra which weighs the same
Have you tried the cabelas and scheels brand reels for comparison. Some are daiwa made reels. I have a couple of cabelas verona and they are pretty good for the price I paid for it. Sale price anyways.
I know those reels but they are 10 yr old models (cabelas). They do not compare to the nee LT family of reels. Scheels has one of the new models actually but it is priced just the same as other reels in this family so there is no economic benefit
Great video again Victor. Interesting about the new Sahara, I had the old one for a while and it was awful. Shimano just don’t seem to be that interested in entry level spinning reels. The new Nasci 500 is terrible.
@@ifishcatfish For me the FI was just too heavy and there was too much resistance, for around the same money the Daiwa Ninja LT 1000 is a much better choice (just my opinion of course).
Hey my friend.. i search a Reel for my evergreen Salty Sensation Light Tough PSSS 78T It is balanced with 160-165Gr..but some people also use reel like vanquish or certate with 205 gramms with this rod I have the Ballistic FW 2500 S-C or Daiwa Airity 2500 FC in the eye. which you recommend of these? Do you have an other reel recommendation?? like vanquish 2023 😝?
@@ifishcatfish i have time till april.. then starts the Perch season again..so Luvias airity or Vanquish 2023..? the budget doesent matter.. i order it from digitaka
I have a feeling Shimano will delay the release of the new Vanquish since it will eat up the sales against the flagship Stella. I for one cant justify buying the new Stella when theres other reels that are cheaper, lighter and can be as good. I have the 2500-H Certate that weights the same as the 2500s Stella and the Certate for me can give me more line, has a good performing drag and silky smooth.
thats all true but companies don't delay new product for such reasons. Also very small percent of stella sales are Ultralight fishing. Weight is not bad for a bass reel...
I only own 3 reels in the 1000 size. The Stella fj, the Stradic fl and the Tatula LT. I personally like the Tatula LT. It's lighter than the other 2 and has the back reeling feature. I still prefer the Stradic and the Stella but the LT is a nice UL reel for sure.
kage is not an actual reel. Its a ballistic with some stupid bearing under the spool. With or without the MQ. For ultralight fishing, i only recommend the reels in my video. Luvias is cheaper than this nonsense reel and is better in every single aspect
'Solid' is not something I discuss in this video. If you are looking for solid, i can tell you many reels that are solid. Aluminum reels are solid. I was focused on the best ultralight reel in each price segment
I didnt say anything about pflueger and quantum either. I didnt say anything about most reels. Alsready the video is longer than most people watch. There is no time for everything and i dont even comment on aluminum reels for ultralight fishing. Its the same exact gears as in ultegra, but metal frame and more expensive. There are many metal reels that are great, like certate, but im only talking about ultralight reels
I have to disagree with Victor on this one. I love my Stradic 1000FL for Ultralight fishing along with my 19' Stella fJ and my Tatula LT 1000 comes in a far 3d place. The Stradic balances with all my Ultralight rods. None of which are JDM though so Victor has a point there. And I use my Stradic on a lot of Light powered rods also. I use it for both Trout and Bass. I liked it so much I purchased a couple extra spools for it.
One important thing not mentioned about Daiwa Legalis family is riveted handle knobs. I got one with big play out of the box and when i removed knob cap i understood that i'm stuck with that play forever. Disgrace.
@@ifishcatfish Timid poser. It wasn't attack on you if that's what you taught. And even funnier is that i bought that reel for my girlfriend. Also Fuego isn't a 50$ reel. Also nobody rivets handle knobs on any price point as this is just scummy and cheap apart some heavy saltwater reels.
no, you don't have a girlfriend. You already said that YOU are stuck with that play forever! Nobody gets upset over free play on a knob on a reel for his girlfriend, not to mention this reel is already much more than what one needs for a girlfriend. Now go home and drink alcohol alone, and reflect on your attitude, because if you keep it, you will die early and alone and poor
@@ifishcatfish Mainly the material of the main gear(the crown). I guess also the way of processing. Visually it's black in Ultregra/Stradic/Vanford and white in Twinpower/Vanquish
right. thats different surface treatment though, not different material. They are both machine cut aluminum and much better and lighter than the zinc alloy gears poured into mold.
Dick’s reduced the Regal to only $29.99, then put the Procyon al lt for $85. …for a few days. I am kicking myself for being slow to pull the trigger on the buy. But I did get the Fuego for $55 at Scheel’s . The FJ shimonos are great, too…..Sedona and Sahara. Dick’s has Sierra combo now for $29.99
@@ifishcatfish i once saw a facebook post about someone already fish it in South east asia therefore maybe we can get it first. going to upgrade it from soare BB 2018 but i hope the drivetrain was same as stradic fl
@@borfishing7690 thats right, if your internet is slow, youtube will start the video on low resolution, but you can still manually select higher resolution. But the option wasn't available on your video. You may have rendered in in low resolution by mistake, happened to me once, this is why i let u know
@@ifishcatfishwas wondering this too-is there only minor size/weight difference between 1000 and 2000 series? I know in bass fishing, many recommend 3000 over 2500 due to wider spool and handles (at least in Daiwa reels). Does reel size change your rod recommendation to pair?
Mail you 2 reels and you test and return. Hi, I have 2 ultra light reels that I bought for myself. I could not find any comprehensive reviews of them other than a drag torture test. So I bought them based on people saying they like them.... Piscicuf carbon x 500 And the piscifun carbon II 1000 Bassesd on your reviews I've purchased a Shimano vanford c2000s And a diawa Fuego LT1000 It's really hard to justify the price difference from the Fuego to vanford. But the vanford does feel slightly nicer than the Fuego. I think if i fished one today and the other tomorrow it would be difficult to tell the difference. You are an aficionado ( preferable spelling would be aFiSHionado, while preferably pronounced a-fish-on-ned-ohhh 🎣🎣🎣👏👏) of ultra light fishing. I'll need an address, I'm not sure how to send a private message.
maybe later... I have been sick and have ear infection and will need some time to catch up with my own stuff.. Vanford is 60 grams lighter, has higher quality gears, has a bearing in the line roller, and has far superior line lay. Sometimes its hard to feel, but if you have expensive rods, the Fuego is not gona fit..
Man, I'm going to have to disagree on the flagship portion of the video. Particularly the statement "there is no reason to buy the 22 Exist", I know a large part of your judgement was that it "doesn't have any less resistance than the 18", and you can only judge the examples you had in front of you, but as you mentioned the Luvias frees up with use, so does the 22 Exist🤷.
I have all 4 reels in the sizes you use most, Vanquish in C2000S, Exist and Luvias Airity in 2000SC, and Stella in 1000. Yes, the Exist has a lot of resistance out of the box, but after 2 weeks that changes, and it now has the lowest inertia of any reel I own, yes, less than my Vanquish and Stella, and the resistance has disappeared so much it's almost as low as the Vanquish also. It also 100% has less of both metrics than the Luvias Airity...
My Exist is also MUCH smoother than my Vanquish, Exsence, and 3 Twinpower XD's, which all share the same internals, and although definitely not as powerful as the Stella FK, it's still more powerful than a same size Vanquish, lighter than the Stella, and the same weight as the Vanquish in sizes 2500 and up, with all this in mind I'm struggling to understand why you say it's not worth buying?
It's essential a far more premium Vanquish, I think there is definitely a market for that!
The argument in 4000/5000 sizes is even stronger, a 5000 Stella FK has immense inertia and a 5000 Vanquish isn't even close in terms of refinement to Stella or Exist, I know this is a UL buyers guide but you did give the Stella points for being a great bass reel so I think this inclusion is fair.
Respectfully, with the experience I have, I just have to disagree.
i have no problem with anything in your post actually, and I am sure the resistance will be reduced significantly with time. Also you are right that I am making this call just based one this one sample I had. But you tell me what would you do, if you had only one sample, and the resistance didn't disappear in the one week you fished it, and you didn't find anything else superior to the outgoing model?? What would you do? Not give recommendation because you had only one model? Then i can't have youtube channel, as i can't buy 10 reels of every model, and definitely don't have time to fish them all. I agree with your points but I am going to repeat, that the sample I had absolutely nothing better than the old model, that i can buy for $400 with Luvias Airity
@@ifishcatfish Hey man, I appreciate you taking the time to read my comment and reply in context to what I wrote, you'd be surprised how many times I've written something and the reply had absolutely nothing to do with what I had written 😂, I have a feeling the same happens to you often? Haha.
Yea I can't judge you for that, you had the reels you had, and have a channel to keep supplied with content, so you made what you had work. I personally would have put emphasis on the circumstance, not being able to test for long as they had to be returned, limited experience across different models etc and speaking only for what you had and what you fish for, but I can't hold that against you entirely as you do mention "no 2 reels are the same" quite a lot, and do state you base performance heavily on UL lures and techniques also, so overall you do a great job.
I just think some angler's/single time viewers may take your word as definite regarding the reels as a whole, which may put some off what may have been the perfect reel for what they do, I know this isn't your fault, but sometimes people are people...
Based on your observations, the 22 Exist is not worth the extra over the Luvias Airity for UL fishing, I get that 100%. However in my experience I do think overall the Exist has its merits, and the liquid metal look, although slightly plain to others is quite beautiful, no other reel looks like it's made of mercury, I know it's not for everyone but it's something different also.
In conclusion, you definitely make high quality videos, I just don't know about flat out saying the 22 Exist is pointless, I do believe it has it's place, especially in comparison to the Stella FK and Vanquish. I agree it is somewhat blurry when the Luvi Airity is included, but to me this doesn't mean the Vanquish and Stella are from heaven or something, which I think sometimes is how it comes across.
@@ifishcatfish O my god my comment is enormous 😂, if you already read it I'm honestly sorry I put you through that hahaha, cheers man.
Hi there, sorry for my check in without invitation but I guess you woudn't mind 🙂 For the most part I agree with Victor but you are right for some things... I can't understand why would brand new exist reduce resistance after longer period of usage, like a week isn't enough. It is flag ship reed, should be perfect from the first day. And yes, Victor said there are no two reels that are the same, but for a flagship from daiwa or shimano, I do expect that all the copies of exist work the same way.
Do not worry for those who watch this video and make a choise what to buy, it is not possible that this video will affect someone's mind that much to convince him not to buy exist, it is a matter of presige I guess 🙂
Anyway, great elaboration of your arguments, it was useful to know some practical facts from the your personal experience. Have a nice day. 🍻
@@bozhidarvorukov7348 Not true at all, Vanford gears are almost exactly the same as Vanquish and Twinpower gears, I actually think Vanford gears stay smooth for longer due to the hard coating, Vanquish/Twinpower gears turn rough quickly when used in more stressful situation. How do I know? I have 7 twinpowers, of various series and sizes, including all 3 current reels, lol.
And Daiwa's anti reverse clutch does not cause all the resistance. I used to think it was just the magnets above the clutch (as they have gotten stronger since 2014 to better keep the oil in place), but as I_fish has also pointed out over time the reels do indeed lose a lot of the resistance and become quite free, so now I think it may a combination of the grease and how tight these Daiwa's are assembled instead, I don't think it is solely the anti reverse clutch at all🤷.
Great stuff! I bought a rod and a reel following your reviews and - after a year - I still fish with them almost everyday, almost forgetting that I have other gear. Thanks!
You have some of the best reel review videos on TH-cam, and yes I consider this video a reel review. I really enjoy the disassembly videos. I like to know if what I’m buying will last and the quality of what I cannot see. Most people’s reviews are very cosmetic and they have no clue about the construction of the product. It’s just pretty and they like it.
well, if u know me enough u will know I like pretty too! : ) . But I do know what's inside. But I will knowingly put inferior reel on my rod, just to match the colors.
Great Video Vic! I'm so glad I picked up the Vanquish in the C2000S, C2000SHG, C2500SHG and 2500S this year from Dig. when they were $324 Shipped. I do have to agree that the 22 Stella C2000SHG I purchased is almost exactly 1 Oz. heavier than the 2000 Vanquish and over a 1/2 oz. heavier than the Vanford 2000. The Stella is without a doubt smoother and more refined but when UL fishing for Trout I still find myself reaching for the Vanquish.
I have been waiting for the 22’ UL buyers guide videos for MONTHS!
I hope so, cos there is another one coming
Great clear buying guide.
I don't really have money for any more gear, but I just love watching your reviews.
Hope to one day get a reel under 150 grams...
soon. they are getting lighter.
I bought a 1000 & 3000 size Miravel and am really enjoying how light they are. I was looking at the ultegra, but I opted for the lighter reel. I have them paired up to a Dobyns Sierra Trout and Panfish Rod and a Shimano Zodias rod. I fish from the bank here in the desert. Hiking for long stretches in the triple digit heat, so having very light combos for fishing all day is important to me. I'm in my 40s now and my wrists were hurting with my budget combos. I just got back from a Gila Trout fishing trip in the low desert mountains. My son and me fished hard for two days and my wrists are fine.
The two reels weigh the same, unless u want to tell me you can tell a 2 gram difference. You have been watching the wrong channels. Ultegra is better than Miravel, and Zodias and Dobyns are not real Ultralight rods. Those are bass rods with ultralight tips. Sorry, that doesn't make it an ultralight rod. Most reviews on youtube are sh#t, done by people who know nothing about gear or ultralight fishing.
@@ifishcatfish You're probably right about the weight difference. I don't own an Ultegra, so I wouldn't know if it's a noticeable difference in quality when actually using them on the water. Just to clarify the Zodias is my 6'9" ML bass fishing drop shot, wacky worm, and neko rig rod that I have paired up with the 3000 Miravel. It is definitely for bass fishing. I've been killing it with this combo too. I fish for anything that is in the lake. I'll target carp if that's all I'm seeing, so I have a variety of rods and reels. There is no Zodias UL as far as I know. The Dobyns Sierra Trout and Panfish Rod is a true Fast Action UL, which I prefer for using small 1/32-3/32 jig heads. I have an older Okuma SST UL which is more of a traditional UL rod, but I don't like using that one for jigs. It's better suited for float fishing or treble hook baits since it has a true parabolic bend. For example, if I'm throwing a 1 inch Rapala jerkbait I'm going to use the Okuma SST. It'll keep them pinned for sure. Maybe, it's just the way I fish, but I have a better hook up ratio on jigs with the stiffer Dobyns than what would be considered a true UL rod like the Okuma SST. I just prefer the Dobyns for micro drop shots, or any bottom contact applications, which is the primary techniques I'm using. Either way I think my next UL rod is going to be a St Croix Avid series and I may pick up an Ultegra for it 😂
Been using Shimano for over 30 years and they last. You can't go wrong with them or Daiwa which I started to use 3 years ago.
I miss tackle advisors😢 awesome video👍
let me email him to see hows he doin
Great timing on this video! Thanks will definitely share with others. Like your choices and definitely waiting to see what reels Daiwa and Shimano update this year. Btw only have ordered spare spools for two of my spinning reels. The Complex XR 2500 which the 2500 comes with felt washers and yep you know the other one. Looking forward to a updated Tatula LT though and saving up for the next Vanquish. Hopefully that don’t include all the features of the new Stella. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
im waiting for the new Vanquish too. i can't even think what can be improved on the old one..
@@ifishcatfish The only thing I think they could improve on the Vanquish is to put a Titanium spool lip.
Thanks for the great guide!
u bet!
Vanquish wins hands down! I totally agree…
I am surprised to hear that Luvias in U.S. costs under 300 $, here in Europe it is still close to 400$ !
In a way I love the kind of “buttery “ feeling that has the Luvias when turning the handle but drag sound suxxx 😅!
We don’t get the Airity, at least in Italy but I am pretty sure even in the rest of the EU.
To me right now Vanquish is the Shimano ultimate UL reel , and Airity for Daiwa …
Nice vids as usual 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It’s the best until the line roller bearings goes bad on Shimano spinning reels😢
You have to grease your carbon disc drags, then they are smooth as silk and last forever. I use Cal's drag grease. Great video Victor! Keep them coming!
were u the one who asked me about this? several people asked me about this. Heavy grease helps alot with consistency of carbon, but lets be clear, it aint never gona feel as good as felt. There is a reason the Vanquish and Presso LTD come with felt!
@@ifishcatfish I agree, the grease definitely smooths out the carbon drag but it doesn’t beat the smoothness of felt. Carbon drag has its place and in my opinion it should not be on finesse reels. Carbon drag is designed to create lots of friction so you can put the brakes on big fish. It doesn’t require much friction to wear down smaller fish.
@@DV-ol7vt when u create a lot of friction, it is HARD to slowly release line. It holds, holds, holds, and then when it lets go, releases a lot of line at once. The heavy grease acts as extra brake to slow it down when it comes lose and starts flying..
@@ifishcatfish Nope not me but if you ever get our reels wet, felt sux!
Great review, all the reels I have been thinking about buying. Vanford, Luvias and Presso in 2000 size. If you needed 2 new reels in that size, which ones would you choose? I´ll most likely use them with komaya drag.
i have individual reviews of each reel if the detail here was not enough for you. To pick between these 3 reels depends on what is important for you, and obviously only you know that
@@ifishcatfish Couldn´t choose so I got 2 Vanquish 2000 instead. Thanks for taking the time to answer and for the fantastic reviews!
The aesthetics of the cardiff ci4 plus are great, Wish they would update it or the vanquish or both
yeah, its really pretty
Just got a great deal on the Shimano Sahara C2000S for Christmas-what rod would you pair it with for throwing crappie jigs/mini swimbaits to exotics (peacock bass, Oscars, tilapia) and largemouth bass in south Florida?
I’ve had huge success with your recommendation of the Daiwa Regal LT paired with Shakespeare Micro Light. I’ve caught dozens of fish on that combo, even my PB 4# largie this week!
The Stella 1000 balances perfectly on a G.Loomis GLX 721S SJR it has become my favorite setup. It’s not an ultralight but it’s a light rod and it works great for smallmouth. Honestly I would say it’s the perfect creek fishing setup because the backbone is essentially a medium while the tip is light and it really lets you throw a lot of the ultralight lures well while having the backbone to handle about anything you’ll encounter there.
It’s closer to a ML than an UL but it seems to be perfect for my intended use.
stella too heavy for UL but i can see how it would fit on that rod..
@@ifishcatfish I also have a GCX Lite and Moonshine Rambler and it basically feels like holding the reel without holding a rod at all. It’s hard to find anything at all that balances the GCX Lite to be fair.
I also just bought a Presso travel rod. Since it’s a bit heavier I might be able to kind of balance it lol
The Legalis CS LT has black spool through Ali or Digitaka and not blue. Better looking.
Great video, I just have one question. Would you say the Daiwa Caldia is competition to the vanford family? My rod (a very light Silverna Lago) goes perfectly with the Caldia, because it has gold accents. Colors matter to me, but the soare is a bit too expensive. The caldia in my country is almost half the price of the soare. I saw your video on the Caldia and you were not very happy with it, which turns me off of it. Should I risk it with the Caldia, buy a vanford that doesnt go well visually or just buy a safe Exceler?
No, it is not. I think the frame was graphite instead of carbon and it is heavier. Also it doesn't have the Luvias gears. It's a beautiful reel, and that's why I bought it, and then sold it. If your reel is quiet though (mine was loud) and the weight balances good with your rod, just enjoy your combo, as it is still a good reel. The Vanford is not competition for Vanquish either, but I enjoy all of my Vanfords anyway. I enjoy my daiwa legalis and my Sahara too! Don't let this bother u at all
@@ifishcatfish Thanks for the quick answer! I will definitely think more about it and I know whichever reel I choose its going to do the job! I like how informative your videos are, keep it up!
We have very similar taste, I'm a Daiwa fan that likes slow taper rods and hates gold handles reels. :) Also I'm a stickler for color matching the combo and also don't like mixing rid and reel brands if I can avoid it
thats a great start! ; )
Thank you for this great guide. What do you think about the Shimano Sustain FJ compared to the Vanford in 2500 size ? (for bass and sea bass fishing)
i dont know what u are fishing for... if its not too heavy i would get the Vanford. If its heavier or you are bass fishing and doing crazy hooksets, u can go with sustain.
@@ifishcatfish Thank you for taking the time to respond. Also, the Sustain FJ is part of what family?
@@laminenaouri7479 stradic FL and twinpower. But its neither the first nor the second.
At one point you had video of putting line on spinning reel the correct way. Did that get deleted?
Hey ifish question, is it still the case that daiwa and shimano products won’t show up as discounted in your cart at all, only on your receipt after you made the purchase? Saw it on the reel test’s vid last year. on the website it says shimano and daiwa is excluded from the sale. Could scare ppl off from buying maybe!
i haven't tried it but I think so.
Great reviews! any thoughts on the stadic fl 1k? is it the same as the ultegra?
I don't consider aluminum reels for ultralight fishing. They are heavy and not cheap. They are great for bass fishing and saltwater fishing. If u spend that kind of money go with Vanford. Or save $50 and get Ultegra which weighs the same
@@ifishcatfish alright thanks man!
I love my Stradic 1000FL for UL. At 6.5oz. it's not exactly a tank unless you compare it to the Vanquish 2000 at 5.2Oz.
Have you tried the cabelas and scheels brand reels for comparison. Some are daiwa made reels. I have a couple of cabelas verona and they are pretty good for the price I paid for it. Sale price anyways.
I know those reels but they are 10 yr old models (cabelas). They do not compare to the nee LT family of reels. Scheels has one of the new models actually but it is priced just the same as other reels in this family so there is no economic benefit
Great video again Victor. Interesting about the new Sahara, I had the old one for a while and it was awful. Shimano just don’t seem to be that interested in entry level spinning reels. The new Nasci 500 is terrible.
what in particular was awful about the old sahara? It's one of my favorite reels.
@@ifishcatfish For me the FI was just too heavy and there was too much resistance, for around the same money the Daiwa Ninja LT 1000 is a much better choice (just my opinion of course).
500 size reels are for Ice fishing only. I purchased the Vanford 500 and sent it right back.
Always enjoy your annual reviews, but where is your glass of wine?
Tennessee Honey whiskey this year.. its in every buying guide. These are tedious to prepare
And take a lot of … liquid support..
Hey my friend.. i search a Reel for my evergreen Salty Sensation Light Tough PSSS 78T
It is balanced with 160-165Gr..but some people also use reel like vanquish or certate with 205 gramms with this rod
I have the Ballistic FW 2500 S-C or Daiwa Airity 2500 FC in the eye. which you recommend of these? Do you have an other reel recommendation?? like vanquish 2023 😝?
Hi there! I dont know that tod but i put my recommendations in this video. Pick from video, depending on your budget
@@ifishcatfish i have time till april.. then starts the Perch season again..so Luvias airity or Vanquish 2023..? the budget doesent matter.. i order it from digitaka
I have a feeling Shimano will delay the release of the new Vanquish since it will eat up the sales against the flagship Stella.
I for one cant justify buying the new Stella when theres other reels that are cheaper, lighter and can be as good.
I have the 2500-H Certate that weights the same as the 2500s Stella and the Certate for me can give me more line, has a good performing drag and silky smooth.
thats all true but companies don't delay new product for such reasons. Also very small percent of stella sales are Ultralight fishing. Weight is not bad for a bass reel...
What do you think about the new vanquish? Is it any better? Or would you recommend to buy the old vanquish
Did anyone get a nee vanquish? I uave not seen new vanquish
@@ifishcatfish yes they released one on 2023
@@bippeee they released a video. But did they release a reel?
@@ifishcatfish 🤔
Vanquish FTW
3:22 I was sure you were about to make a Let's Go Brandon joke right there lol
i've done it a couple of times but then delete it..
What can I say, thank you 🍻🙂
How come you didnt include the Abu Garcia Zenon or the Daiwa Tatula LT?
i think they are inferior to the reels i recommended and cost about the same
I only own 3 reels in the 1000 size. The Stella fj, the Stradic fl and the Tatula LT. I personally like the Tatula LT. It's lighter than the other 2 and has the back reeling feature. I still prefer the Stradic and the Stella but the LT is a nice UL reel for sure.
Any reviews/feedback of the Daiwa Kage mq lt?
kage is not an actual reel. Its a ballistic with some stupid bearing under the spool. With or without the MQ. For ultralight fishing, i only recommend the reels in my video. Luvias is cheaper than this nonsense reel and is better in every single aspect
Honestly been fishing the new miravel and it's solid for 80 from japan
'Solid' is not something I discuss in this video. If you are looking for solid, i can tell you many reels that are solid. Aluminum reels are solid. I was focused on the best ultralight reel in each price segment
@@ifishcatfish sorry what I mean it's a good reel
I know its too late to say this but you didn't say anything about Stradic FL don't you? Because for me, I did prefer the FL over the Ultegra.
I didnt say anything about pflueger and quantum either. I didnt say anything about most reels. Alsready the video is longer than most people watch. There is no time for everything and i dont even comment on aluminum reels for ultralight fishing. Its the same exact gears as in ultegra, but metal frame and more expensive. There are many metal reels that are great, like certate, but im only talking about ultralight reels
I have to disagree with Victor on this one. I love my Stradic 1000FL for Ultralight fishing along with my 19' Stella fJ and my Tatula LT 1000 comes in a far 3d place. The Stradic balances with all my Ultralight rods. None of which are JDM though so Victor has a point there. And I use my Stradic on a lot of Light powered rods also. I use it for both Trout and Bass. I liked it so much I purchased a couple extra spools for it.
One important thing not mentioned about Daiwa Legalis family is riveted handle knobs. I got one with big play out of the box and when i removed knob cap i understood that i'm stuck with that play forever. Disgrace.
Disgrace? Because $50 reel doesn't have everything you need? Let me guess, you are single, and you are a loser!
@@ifishcatfish Timid poser. It wasn't attack on you if that's what you taught. And even funnier is that i bought that reel for my girlfriend. Also Fuego isn't a 50$ reel. Also nobody rivets handle knobs on any price point as this is just scummy and cheap apart some heavy saltwater reels.
no, you don't have a girlfriend. You already said that YOU are stuck with that play forever! Nobody gets upset over free play on a knob on a reel for his girlfriend, not to mention this reel is already much more than what one needs for a girlfriend. Now go home and drink alcohol alone, and reflect on your attitude, because if you keep it, you will die early and alone and poor
@@ifishcatfish Stop projecting bud
@@ifishcatfish You sooooo bad Victor!🤣
Ultregra is a great reel, but the gears inside are not the same as those in Twinpower&Vanquish :)
what is the difference?
@@ifishcatfish Mainly the material of the main gear(the crown). I guess also the way of processing. Visually it's black in Ultregra/Stradic/Vanford and white in Twinpower/Vanquish
right. thats different surface treatment though, not different material. They are both machine cut aluminum and much better and lighter than the zinc alloy gears poured into mold.
I think the Presso is the best looking reel at any price!
Which one? 2020 or 2017LTD
Right now, Daiwa Regal LT is $44.95 at Dick’s and Pluger President XT is $59.95 same place online
Regal LT for sure
Dick’s reduced the Regal to only $29.99, then put the Procyon al lt for $85. …for a few days. I am kicking myself for being slow to pull the trigger on the buy. But I did get the Fuego for $55 at Scheel’s . The FJ shimonos are great, too…..Sedona and Sahara. Dick’s has Sierra combo now for $29.99
Is the Revros LT 1000 just as good? It's currently the cheapest
Yes. Its the same as Legalis.
@@ifishcatfish Thanks!
How does the nasci stack up under the $100 reels
Just buy the Sahara. I have a video comparing Sahara and Nasci, but there is no point buying Nasci for freshwater.
any thoughts on soare BB 2022 as budget UL Reel ?
this reel is not even released man, how can i have thoughts? : ) The only thing i can say without seeing it is the colors look nice.
@@ifishcatfish i once saw a facebook post about someone already fish it in South east asia therefore maybe we can get it first. going to upgrade it from soare BB 2018 but i hope the drivetrain was same as stradic fl
Still haven’t heard anything and a new 2023 vanquish 😢
Im still working w shimano on development
How did you get this posted in 1080p?
yes. But i see it is in 1080p. what do u see?
@@ifishcatfish
I noticed that I can choose a higher resolution in settings, but not on my last video
@@borfishing7690 thats right, if your internet is slow, youtube will start the video on low resolution, but you can still manually select higher resolution. But the option wasn't available on your video. You may have rendered in in low resolution by mistake, happened to me once, this is why i let u know
@@ifishcatfish Thanks Brother 👊🏼
Where did you hear of a new vanquish in 2023?
nowhere. It's just time. First a new Stella, and then the Vanquish.
@@ifishcatfish I sure hope you’re right haha my body is ready
I thought I lost internet with that video ending
been working on my outtros. Keep everyone alert.
Meanwhile in Canada Reel prices have doubled in the last 2 year's.
canada printed a lot of money during the beer disease period too...
Something called Washington state
I think you forgot to mention to choose 2000 size if available instead of 1000. :)
why? I don't care for that. Buy whichever u have available or is on sale or has your gear ratio or handle that you want. 1000 vs 2000 doesnt matter
@@ifishcatfishwas wondering this too-is there only minor size/weight difference between 1000 and 2000 series? I know in bass fishing, many recommend 3000 over 2500 due to wider spool and handles (at least in Daiwa reels).
Does reel size change your rod recommendation to pair?
I have vanquish 19 1000SSSPG for 346 euro on Christmas sale
merry christmas!
Mail you 2 reels and you test and return.
Hi, I have 2 ultra light reels that I bought for myself. I could not find any comprehensive reviews of them other than a drag torture test.
So I bought them based on people saying they like them....
Piscicuf carbon x 500
And the piscifun carbon II 1000
Bassesd on your reviews I've purchased a Shimano vanford c2000s
And a diawa Fuego LT1000
It's really hard to justify the price difference from the Fuego to vanford.
But the vanford does feel slightly nicer than the Fuego. I think if i fished one today and the other tomorrow it would be difficult to tell the difference.
You are an aficionado ( preferable spelling would be aFiSHionado, while preferably pronounced a-fish-on-ned-ohhh 🎣🎣🎣👏👏) of ultra light fishing.
I'll need an address, I'm not sure how to send a private message.
maybe later... I have been sick and have ear infection and will need some time to catch up with my own stuff..
Vanford is 60 grams lighter, has higher quality gears, has a bearing in the line roller, and has far superior line lay. Sometimes its hard to feel, but if you have expensive rods, the Fuego is not gona fit..