Half Pan vs Full Pan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Do you prefer half pan or full pan?
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I took one of those cheap art kits that come in a wooden carrying case, hollowed it out, lined the bottom with velcro, and filled it with about 100 full pans of paint attached with adhesive velcro (so it's secure, but I can rearrange it,) and I put a swatch chart with brand and pigment information on the inside of the lid. Both have matching latitude/longitude coordinates (think Battleship, ie B4, C6, G9, etc.)
I know it's crazy, but I love it.
That's craftsmanship. 👍 😄 The word your looking for isn't "crazy". It's "eccentric". 😉
I love to work small, either in a travel sketchbook or 5x7", so I'm a fan of the half pans so I can take as many colors as possible with me. However, I totally agree, full pans are way better if you like to paint large and they let you use nice big brushes in them. I try not to use half pans with brushes bigger than about size 8 round or 1/4" flats, it feels awkward.
It's kind of funny because I never realized the way I put my brush in compared from half to full pan until you pointed that out! Maybe that's why I gravitate toward my aqua brushes for half and natural hair for full...
As a beginner, I found several useful points in this video, especially to avoid jabbing my brushes at the pan. Thanks Teoh.
Usually my hack for protecting hair points is using a taklon/synthetic scripter to pick the paint i want and then put it on my palette for mixing. Then I paint with my black velvets. It helps me protect the quality of my professional brushes that way. I use both sizes pans depending on what I feel like doin'.
Thanks for the tip. I use something similar, I use a cheap brush to pick the paint from the pan to a gode
Nice demo on how to use the brushes with half and full pans. I never really thought about that aspect of using the correct angles so one can save expensive brushes-so thx Teoh.
wow, thanks! what you said about the damage in the brushes is new for me, now I will now how to take care of them in a better way, I love your videos!! I always learn something new
Thanks 😁
I like small pans for a day's outing but full pans for a longer time , say a couple of day sketching or more away from home. Great stuff Teoh, well done.
If you remove the metal clip that holds the pans in the metal box, you can fit more half or full pans into it. You can make the pans stay in place with magnetic tape or velcro stuck to the bottom of the pans. This gives you more options of how to arrange the full/half pans.
I paint small and I thought I'd like half pans until I bought them. It is awkward to dip any brush larger than size 4 round into them. It takes forever to mix. Sometimes the paint will splash onto the neighboring pans! There are always colors that you use more than others, and they run out even more quickly if you use half pans.
I think sketchers are going to benefit the most from half pan, but I still prefer full pan for sketching. Just my two cents for anyone still on the fence about half pan vs full pan.
I don't paint super big, but I prefer full pans for the reason you described. I like to work very gently with my brushes and collecting paint gently at an angle just feels better to me
I have half pans in my field sketch box but I hate the way you wind up drilling holes in the paint. I try to consciously pick up by swiping along the sides but it's fiddly. Keeping pans filled helps avoid digging holes and reduces brush damage. I much prefer whole pans but they do vary in shape and size a lot. My large Cotman Studio palette will only take Winsor Newtons tapered pans or requires the separater ridges cutting out. I have found problems with other pan / palette combinations too but generally not half pans.
I was thinking ... How can you find so many tips and interesting subjects for all the videos you make.!?!??? 😃
Tks for these great tips.
Some ideas are from questions people ask me in the comments section. For example, I may make a video on your question. lol
Im new to watercolor just started today ive been using acrylic most in my life. Thank u for this video
Hey!
I just wanted to give some tips since you are coming to wc from acrylics:
1) DON'T USE WHITE! Instead of white use water to lighten colors as they get opaque and muddy thus not being great for layering
2) DON'T USE THE SAME BRUSHES FOR WC AND ACRYLICS! brushes used for acrylics hold less water so they are not generally recommended for wc and wc shouldn't be used for acrylics as they will get damaged.
3) ONLY USE WATERCOLOR PAPER! Unlike gouache, acrylics and oils wc can only be used on wc paper as other surfaces arnt very absorbant.
That's it! Hope this is somewhat helpful! Oh and ps sorry for any grammatical errors English isn't my first language
Seeing a few different paint boxes was helpful. I appreciate the tips on large and small brushes especially about not bending them out of shape. 👍 😄 Thanks Teoh.
Thank you so much for explaining differences i was embarrassed to ask people and great advice on brush mine are new n dont want the same mistake like you 😬 great video
For outdoor sketching, half pans 24 in number, Indoors, full pans 36. Russian White Nights watercolours. As they only come in full pans, I use their tube colour equivalents to fill my half pans.
This was so informative. I am exploring whether to use pans and obviously size is important. Thanks for sharing.
I prefer half-pans, as I work small, also as I don't usually have any luxury to mix paints on a go, I am trying to fit as many necessary hues/shades/colours as possible for easy work. I carry one small but pretty high (about 2cm) tin that fits 30 most essential half-pans on magnetic bases (in two layers, 15 stuck to the tin itself and 15 stuck to the lid, upside-down, with a layer of soft plastic paper between) and second flat metal tin from chocolates (Heidel Euro money metal tin, to be precise) for another not-so-critical-but-nice-to-have ~45 half-pans, to total of about ~75 half-pans that can fit into my pocket. I could never get used to any official metal palettes, too big or/and restrictive.
Sadly, two of my favourite pans of particularly rich colours (ultramarine and turquoise) are from White Nights and they only make full pans.
White nights make tubes as well
@@arvindshukla8040 Yes, since my last comment I got some tubes and made half-pans of White Nights colour.
My travel case has half pans only, but my travel sketch book is small anyway so I cannot and do not use anything larger than a size six brush. It is too big most of the time.
I read it as Half Pain vs Full Pain
still works lol
Hi Teoh! Watercolor is one of my go to supplies. I’ve been watching your videos for a while and would love for you to try the Arteza real brush pens!
I fit 8 full pans into my Schmincke tin by taking the tray out and hot gluing them vertically. I won't have to worry about the pans moving, but if i really need to change one of my colors i can just refill one of the pans. I think it looks nice this way as well. :-)
Excellent tips. Thanks!
half empty or half full?
Thank you!
i can't mix using only a few of colors so i think half pans are more convenient for me
Does anyone know of a case that can accommodate Kuretake Gansai Tambi watercolors? I wanted to know if the White Nights case supports these pans.
Great explanation 😊
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I've never used a full pan - but I do prefer to have more choices with me, so half pans it is!
Have you ever tried quarter pans? I was thinking about using them in the bijou box palette so I could add more colors but they dont seem all that much smaller than the half pans.
Quarter pan is too small. It's not easy to use with brushes.
@@teohyc Thank You
Is there any difference in keeping the colors clean? I use half pans and I find I struggle to keep the light colors clean, which is super annoying. I'm wondering if full pans would maybe make this easier? The cerulean blue for instance always turns a little greenish/greyish when I'm painting skies... I'm thinking that maybe with a larger surface for one any mess would be more visible, and secondly, there's more space to choose from? Great tips by the way! I hadn't thought how I load the brush in terms of wearing down the point.
To prevent contamination, you've got to clean your brush first. Also try to use those colours that are easy to dirty first. Eg yellow.
@@teohyc I guess I still haven't figured out how to mix colours without contaminating them. I find I have to reach for more paints many times before I have enough and to rinse out the brush completely for each time would cause loads or pigment to go to waste. I thought maybe a larger surface of paint would make it easier to not contaminate the whole thing.
What's your favorite portable watercolor palette?
Current the Portable Painter.
Was just wondering how you store the paint filled pans once they are not in use in your current palette.
I have other spare watercolour pan boxes. Make sure to label them because you may forget the colours if they are unused for too long. lol
Thanks. I think I will need a lot of metal boxes. Also do you know any shops in Singapore that sell the pans that have a magnet base? I chanced upon some in Seoul Korea and I think they work great!
@@alanho4148 I've not seen any with magnet base. You can search eBay.
Alan Ho you can buy magnet strips with sticky back see in Bangkok, or a bit of blu tac works.
I'm more of a "the pan is half full" kind of guy.
can you cut the full pan to a half pan?
No
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I have White Nights set, it fullpan but only capable 2.5ml compare to 4ml you said. So is that actually fullpan ?
White Nights full pans have different volume compared to standard pans.
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If you cannot think of any idea for video then just take any pan and start painting and make a video. Just for the sake of content creation don't lose creativity