Ballistics, slower and lighter never penetrates more than heavier and faster. MATH. I choked on my coffee when you said 3 jugs for the pellet, loved it.
Another important thing about air pellets, they don't have the sectional density or weight of a regular bullet of the same caliber so they won't carry as much energy, even if velocity was equal. Great video! I have a Gamo .177 spring-piston and when I 'diesel' it, it goes from 770fps to 990fps with a 10.5gr. pellet.
You are the best gun guy on the Internet brother!!! Love the vids. And you seem to be just a regular guy like probably all your viewers!!! Keep up the great work you do brother!!!
One water jug or not, these modern air rifles are WAY more powerful than the ones I saw in the 70s. I agree that it ought to work fine for varmint work, but I think I'll keep on using my rimfire guns. IMHO, the 22LR is much more versatile. That was a great video, WTH. I enjoyed watching and comparing results with you.
Modern air rifles shoot "slugs" instead of skirted pellets = more mass They are also capable of same speeds as subsonic 22lr rifles while shooting up to 9mm "slugs"
If people don’t believe you they need to get lost…But it is good to stay humble.. You seem like a genuine good ol boy to me 😁😎 hope to shake your hand some day WTW 🎉
Great video as always. I received an Avenge-X for Christmas and did this test with it. I was shooting Crosman Premier .22 HP at 14.3 gr. Shooting @890 f.p.s. At 20 yards it shot thru a single milk jug. It would also shoot thru a Simply Orange jug with the thicker plastic at the same distance. So far the Avenge-X has a squirrel and 3 sparrows to its credit. They are awesome!!!
I have a .177 cal pellet rifle that shoots around 1,000 fps advertised. I shot a 1 gal water jug at 25 yards and it zipped right through both sides. Never tried 2 jugs. I was impressed it went clean through.
Pretty impressive pellet for sure. I don't think I've ever seen one expand that well before. Might need to try those in my break barrel. I usually use JSB pellets because of their accuracy.
Keep in mind bullet weights too. I saw a test where a guy did a soft clay test between the two but he used a .25 caliber PCP airgun because it is closer to the equivalent of a 22 LR and it's still amazing the extra damage the LR did. It went straight through the clay block and left about an inch hole with a 3-4 inch crater on the inlet side and the .25 pellet might have went all the way through I can't remember but it was no hole and only had about a 1-1/2 inch crater. And I love PCP airguns I recently acquired a Korean lever action in .25. it's awesome and powerful but overall a 22 LR still beats it. But to know it's power people readily hunt smaller hogs with .25 caliber PCP airguns. Part of that is airguns obviously have limitations so headshots are a must.
My buddy had me sight in his air rifle, and that damn hand pump is for the birds. Use one of you have to but if you can buy one, most definitely get a powered compressor for these things. Your back will thank you, folks.
I have a tank. I can get 100 rounds out of the tank on my rifle and I can fill that tank 10 times with the large refill tank. 1,000 rounds total plus or minus. Takes seconds to refill the rifle. The store I bought the rifle from gives me free lifetime refills. I'm very happy with the setup and being a resident of California it opens up worlds of opportunities that are denied firearms.
@edstimator1 these air rifles are a game changer for folks in your state. I have a small tank I use for stuff. It's nice that you get lifetime refills on yours. These things are awesome.
It really is a game changer not only for Californicators but in National parks too. Nightime hunting rules are changed. Firearm rules don't apply. It's all just different in a better way. Be sure to check with the local authorities because in the end, it really is up to their interpretation of the legalities but you can also check with other authorities that may buttress your pleading.There is always ONE GUY in the district that is THE LAW.@@TheGeekiestGuy
I'd like to see a closer comparison velocity wise. Maybe your Avenger vs some of the CCI Quite 22 subsonics. I think the Quite version is around 800-900 fps.
Better would be to try it against a modern air rifle that can shoot 40 gram slugs at 1040 fps. Sure, the .22 is still going to be a little more powerful, but the air rifle is pretty close, and 200 slugs cost $15, while 200 LR costs about $100.
I would love to see more of a hunting pellet come out on the market. Softer lead on the inside and copper coated. I've been testing a bunch of different ones on my trapline and in a live animal I think a better pellet would be a good combo with these new rifles. Perhaps a Remington core lock pellet!😍
That Bugara is a sweet rifle. I am not familiar with the brand of PCP you used but I'm just going to bet you can shoot a tighter group with it at 25 or even 50 yards than you can with the rimfire. Off the bench, fully supported on both rifles of course. I think you will be surprised. Love your vids, man.
Today I did my own milk jug test with my 5.56 Ruger Ranch using Barnes TTX bullets I only had 5 jugs so I put a 3/4 inch piece of plywood in front of the jugs the bullet went through the plywood and stopped in the last jug it retained its original 70 grains and expanded perfectly . The Barnes TTX copper bullets are very accurate and the penetration was more than I expected, should make a very good hunting bullet for medium-sized game including deer out to 250 yards. You should give them a try. P S Love your videos.
Cool comparison. You should revisit the same test and use an airgun slug hollow point. Then you have slug versus slug, and turn up the power on the Avenger to get 950 plus FPS. Use at least a 30 grain aigun slug. 30.5 grain ZAN slug in .218 diameter.
Exactly. Man air guns can shoot a 40 grain slug at 1040 fps or more. Many people don't really understand how poweful air rifles have gotten. Now the .22 slug will not be quite as powerful as the .22 LR, but considering you can buy 200 for $15 vs $100 for the same number of .22 LR. I have been shooting air rifles for three decades and I would never go back to powder for just plinking around or for light game. (I can buy 500 .22 hollowpoints for $7. Wow!
@@shenmisheshou7002 just think about my Airforce Texan LSS .457 caliber shooting an NSA 350 grain slug producing 600 plus FPE. My Impact M3 in .357 caliber is getting 168 to 172 FPE.
@@airguns_rc I kept it to the .22 to be fair to the comparison of the same caliber, but yes, a lot of firearms people don't really understand how powerful airguns have gotten. Per caliber, the firearm ammo is more powerful, but if you shoot a lot, as I do (about 500 shots a month, the cost of a really good airgun and compressor starts to look better and better the more you shoot. I stopped shooting firearms on a regular basis when I first discovered precision arighuns just before the Atlanta Olympics. My gun store/range had a 10M match pistol in their display case. I was infatuated by it and that was the beginning of the end of my regular shooting of firearms. I still have a 9mm pistol and a Colt Python, but I almost never shoot them. I shoot my FX Maverick 4 or 5 times a week.
@@shenmisheshou7002 I wasn’t mentioning the Texan to shoot against the .22 LR. I run the airgun competitions in The Greater Cincinnati Area. We have five airgun disciplines now this year. We have four clubs in Ohio, but at my club Fairfield Sportsman Association we have ASA 100 yard sanctioned Benchrest Competitions, Sanctioned N50 Benchrest Competitions starting this year, Rifle Field Target on a wooded course, we are starting pistol field target this year, and we are having speed silhouette competitions after the N50 competitions. I shoot at least 500 rounds a week and probably more between all my different calibers. I also attend the international competitions. Great people and great competitions. Who Tee Who got bit by the airgun bug last year. He has a few Airguns now. He has a Seneca Big Bore as well, the new Avenge X, and he has an FX Impact. I have my firearms and enjoy shooting them, but I honestly enjoy shooting my Airguns more.
I have a rim-fire air rifle that was factory made by Crossman to only shoot .22 pellets. They have made (most air rifle companies) these guns for decades.
Good test video WTW. The results are about what I expected. If you want to do another test, then use a .22LR with a solid bullet. I think the solid round-nose .22 LR will go further than the hollow point .22 LR. cartridge. Maybe, next time use an air rifle powered by a pump-up/handle instead of an air compressor tank gizmo. Not all of us can afford an air-compressor gun.
Maybe one more test? Fire the air pellet out of the rifle using a power hammer blank cartridge. Should get some awesome speeds and damage. Let us know if you try it. Great video...as always!!
I have done a test on a watermelon with a hollowpoint airgun pellet at about 1600 fps. The watermelon completely exploded on impact, there was no exit hole so it completely desintegrated😮. No, it wasn't a regular airgun. Lesson learned: overspeeding a hp airgun pellet is lethal on impact😮
I killed a 6 point buck with a 22 pellet out of a Benjamin nitro piston rifle. It was an accident…just testing the thing out. Had no idea it was lethal in any scenario. Hip fired it at a deer in my yard. Killed it after hitting it behind the ear (we found out when fish n game came over)
Awesome video as usual brother. But as a airhead I gotta say there are much badder 22 air rifles out there. A 36gr 22 slug at 1050 is well within reach. That being said the avenger is a great little plinker. Stay awesome WTW
The 2nd and 3rd milk jugs were touching, or it would prob. have penetrated into the third. If you want penetration with a pellet rifle, you need solid ammo. I have had my 22 cal. break barrel air rifle do three milk jugs. It Chrono's around 800 fps with a 14 grain pellet. Most pellet guns will not compete with a 22 LR . Even shorts, but will do a number on small game, if the shot placement is right on. Thanks for the video!
I'm on team LR, but respect the applications of a pellet where firearms would cause problems. Otherwise, they cost the same per shot(If you use the non-lead pellets that I use), and one simply hits harder.
Be cool to see this tested with 22 LR fitting concrete blanks pushing 22 pellets. They make different strength blanks as well. Curious on the different speeds and penetration
Now you need to "Diesel" that pellet. A drop of oil in the air cavity. Using my Gammo Maxxim shooting at a 2x10 a standard shot penetrated 4/32in. After adding the drop of oil, it penetrated 21/32in. Apparently the oil ignites and fires that pellet out like a .22L. I've broken the sound barrier creating a crack that any gun guy would swear id just shot a .22LR!
I always like to mess around with the 177 and the 22 pellet rifle. I put some vicks vaporub In the back side of the pellets. An then check the speed difference. Some people call it dieseling. You don't have to fill it to up half way to 3/4. It will be faster then the 22 LR. Just to let you know don't use some cheap pellet rifle. At 50 yards I can get a 1 to 1 1/2 inch Group. I don't know if you can show this on TH-cam. It sounds like you're shooting a 22 LR. It a fun thing to mess around with.
I guess i follow too many people on here. I have a whole back catalog of your content, brother. I hope you're okay out there. You look warmer than a lot of other folks. 😂 it's even been cold out here. Stay warm and keep churning out this great content. 🤙🏾
@WHOTEEWHO you gotta come check out the big island before it gets all city like. I'd rather you come have fun before it gets like Honolulu. Thanks again for everything you do, brother. 🤙🏾
Your heavy breathing sounds like mine before my heart stent. You are a handy guy building that fun property. Shame if the next guy gets to enjoy it. OR, what if he's a gun hater ?
Air rifles are great for backyard practice. You can use a suppressor to mute the sound but I have to say WOW are they expensive! I'm in the wrong business lol
That air rifle is a low power rifle. There are plenty of air rifles with greater power/velocity that are closer to the rimfire. Also, the weight of the lr projectile is twice that of the pellet. That is a doubly unfair comparison. If you used a slug in the air rifle and a high-power air rifle it would be a fairer comparison. A better comparison would be an FX Impact with slugs verses the .22 lr.
The chronograph of the air rifle .22 is slightly higher than a 32 grain 22LR CCI Stinger being shot by a North American Arms (NAA) with a 1.13" barrel (this tiny revolver can fit into a pack of cigarettes, 100's). Comparing these two in milk jugs (or anything else) would be incredibly fascinating! I wish more 22LR comparisons used the NAA 22LR, as it is basically the worst case scenario option for this round. Also the energy transfer destruction between the air rifle and 22LR was very significant. The air rifle basically just poked a hole. Whereas the 22LR caused a small explosion in the first jug. Would these results be the same with a 22LR being shot at roughly the same velocity as the air rifle?
36 grains at 850fps is less than half the energy of the 36 grain at 1280fps 57 ft lbs vs 131, and that crow mangum pellet is 18 grains at 850fps so its only 28 ft/lbs of energy.
You should try the CCI 22 Quiets, those would be a fair match with the pellet gun, very similar velocity. And compare the Quiets with the CCI Stingers, see what kind of difference velocity really makes. 👍😉
I think you would find more penetration, possibly if you used a non-expanding pellet. Some pellets even have a sharp pointed head that you could try as comparison.
I have a FX M3 30 cal. I also have the same compressor. I am in the 950 fps range. With Diablo 44gr pellets. I seem to enjoy shooting my air more than the rim. I thought it would have went into the second jug 💫🤘
.22 air rifles are about handgun velocity, but of course a much lighter pellet/ bullet weight. For small game at short range a .22 air rifle is very capable, Hay you can even get .30 cal air rifles capable of taking deer. The .22lr is as always very effective on a lot of game, it's often dismissed as weak and almost a "toy" but it's definitely not. A lot of people have been killed by accident because others didn't think it capable of much, and disregarded a safe backstop.
They're both subsonic so I'm not surprised by the results. If the 22 long was supersonic it would've broken up and only gone as far as the pellet, I don't think the jacket on the 22 long made that much difference. I'll go with the rim fire first cause I don't want to take the time to re gas my gun all the time.
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Ballistics, slower and lighter never penetrates more than heavier and faster. MATH. I choked on my coffee when you said 3 jugs for the pellet, loved it.
Another important thing about air pellets, they don't have the sectional density or weight of a regular bullet of the same caliber so they won't carry as much energy, even if velocity was equal. Great video! I have a Gamo .177 spring-piston and when I 'diesel' it, it goes from 770fps to 990fps with a 10.5gr. pellet.
I expected the results you got with the single jug on the air powered rifle. 22LR is way underrated by many.
Your joking right
@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs you're too stupid to understand. Air rifles can take down a large game like deer bear elk try that with 22.
@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs you're too stupid to understand. Air rifle can takedown big game like Bears elk deer try that with 22.
@@markchapman2585 you're not your. 🤗😉🤗
A .22 solid air rifle slug with a little Q10 penetrating oil wiped off with a finger, went through 6 tins.
You are the best gun guy on the Internet brother!!! Love the vids. And you seem to be just a regular guy like probably all your viewers!!! Keep up the great work you do brother!!!
🙏🙏🙏 appreciate you watching
One water jug or not, these modern air rifles are WAY more powerful than the ones I saw in the 70s. I agree that it ought to work fine for varmint work, but I think I'll keep on using my rimfire guns. IMHO, the 22LR is much more versatile.
That was a great video, WTH. I enjoyed watching and comparing results with you.
Modern air rifles shoot "slugs" instead of skirted pellets = more mass
They are also capable of same speeds as subsonic 22lr rifles while shooting up to 9mm "slugs"
If people don’t believe you they need to get lost…But it is good to stay humble.. You seem like a genuine good ol boy to me 😁😎 hope to shake your hand some day WTW 🎉
Great video as always. I received an Avenge-X for Christmas and did this test with it. I was shooting Crosman Premier .22 HP at 14.3 gr. Shooting @890 f.p.s. At 20 yards it shot thru a single milk jug. It would also shoot thru a Simply Orange jug with the thicker plastic at the same distance. So far the Avenge-X has a squirrel and 3 sparrows to its credit. They are awesome!!!
Those Simply Orange bottles are pretty tuff in my experience.
Whew! Before long you'll be goin' straight through Pringle's cans! HAW HAW HAW!
Had.caliber.speed.what
Happened.to.mass?
@@allanbudge-sb9zj it says. 14.3 gr.
Thanks for another great video. I am glad to see you still have your Bergara BMR. I really like mine.
I started watching your friend Heavy Metal’s videos. I like his delivery…seems like a pretty cool dude!
Very cool dude
Yes he is.
What's the channel?
@@tjdement8229 heavy metal guns
@@tjdement8229 it's a very good channel.
If your into cars he also has a body shop channel. It's linked on his gun page
I have a .177 cal pellet rifle that shoots around 1,000 fps advertised. I shot a 1 gal water jug at 25 yards and it zipped right through both sides. Never tried 2 jugs. I was impressed it went clean through.
Air pellet vs 22 short next.
oh, i'd like to see that! i didn't even know they still made .22 shorts.
22Ramset pushing 22 pellets.... No comparisons apply😂
Like the mushroom on the 22 pellet great video
Pretty impressive pellet for sure. I don't think I've ever seen one expand that well before. Might need to try those in my break barrel. I usually use JSB pellets because of their accuracy.
“Real careful-like”, I love it. I will henceforth no longer use adverbs! Honest-like!
Keep in mind bullet weights too. I saw a test where a guy did a soft clay test between the two but he used a .25 caliber PCP airgun because it is closer to the equivalent of a 22 LR and it's still amazing the extra damage the LR did. It went straight through the clay block and left about an inch hole with a 3-4 inch crater on the inlet side and the .25 pellet might have went all the way through I can't remember but it was no hole and only had about a 1-1/2 inch crater. And I love PCP airguns I recently acquired a Korean lever action in .25. it's awesome and powerful but overall a 22 LR still beats it. But to know it's power people readily hunt smaller hogs with .25 caliber PCP airguns. Part of that is airguns obviously have limitations so headshots are a must.
OUTSTANDING REVIEW🎯🎯🎯🌟👌🏾‼️
Thanks for watching
Cool comparison WTW, enjoyed watching!
Thanks for watching!
The molecular integrity of the milk jug was damaged by the 22lr...
😂😂😂😂
Yup!
My buddy had me sight in his air rifle, and that damn hand pump is for the birds. Use one of you have to but if you can buy one, most definitely get a powered compressor for these things. Your back will thank you, folks.
I have a tank. I can get 100 rounds out of the tank on my rifle and I can fill that tank 10 times with the large refill tank. 1,000 rounds total plus or minus. Takes seconds to refill the rifle. The store I bought the rifle from gives me free lifetime refills. I'm very happy with the setup and being a resident of California it opens up worlds of opportunities that are denied firearms.
@edstimator1 these air rifles are a game changer for folks in your state. I have a small tank I use for stuff. It's nice that you get lifetime refills on yours. These things are awesome.
It really is a game changer not only for Californicators but in National parks too. Nightime hunting rules are changed. Firearm rules don't apply. It's all just different in a better way. Be sure to check with the local authorities because in the end, it really is up to their interpretation of the legalities but you can also check with other authorities that may buttress your pleading.There is always ONE GUY in the district that is THE LAW.@@TheGeekiestGuy
I'd like to see a closer comparison velocity wise. Maybe your Avenger vs some of the CCI Quite 22 subsonics. I think the Quite version is around 800-900 fps.
Better would be to try it against a modern air rifle that can shoot 40 gram slugs at 1040 fps. Sure, the .22 is still going to be a little more powerful, but the air rifle is pretty close, and 200 slugs cost $15, while 200 LR costs about $100.
Usually I don't have much interest in the air powered guns but this was an interesting test. Really enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching!
I’m picking rimfire all day. I can go from 710fps up to 1600 fps with the same rifle by just changing ammo .
Another great video, thank you WTW
Always appreciate you watching!
Słaba energetycznie wiatrówka pcp i źle dobrany śrut..zbyt lekki i niedopasowany kształt ( sług 2g^ )
I would love to see more of a hunting pellet come out on the market. Softer lead on the inside and copper coated. I've been testing a bunch of different ones on my trapline and in a live animal I think a better pellet would be a good combo with these new rifles. Perhaps a Remington core lock pellet!😍
I am not 100% sure why this is so interesting, but it is very interesting. Great experiment.
Thanks for watching!
This is an abject outrage!! ,but I like it.
I am also rolling in the camo crocs, mine are fleece lined for our crappy weather
I'm glad your doing more jug videos again since ur doing rimfite you should do the 17hmr the 17 grain tipped vs the 20 hollow point
That Bugara is a sweet rifle. I am not familiar with the brand of PCP you used but I'm just going to bet you can shoot a tighter group with it at 25 or even 50 yards than you can with the rimfire. Off the bench, fully supported on both rifles of course. I think you will be surprised. Love your vids, man.
Today I did my own milk jug test with my 5.56 Ruger Ranch using Barnes TTX bullets I only had 5 jugs so I put a 3/4 inch piece of plywood in front of the jugs the bullet went through the plywood and stopped in the last jug it retained its original 70 grains and expanded perfectly . The Barnes TTX copper bullets are very accurate and the penetration was more than I expected, should make a very good hunting bullet for medium-sized game including deer out to 250 yards. You should give them a try. P S Love your videos.
Awesome
Cool comparison. You should revisit the same test and use an airgun slug hollow point. Then you have slug versus slug, and turn up the power on the Avenger to get 950 plus FPS. Use at least a 30 grain aigun slug. 30.5 grain ZAN slug in .218 diameter.
Exactly. Man air guns can shoot a 40 grain slug at 1040 fps or more. Many people don't really understand how poweful air rifles have gotten. Now the .22 slug will not be quite as powerful as the .22 LR, but considering you can buy 200 for $15 vs $100 for the same number of .22 LR. I have been shooting air rifles for three decades and I would never go back to powder for just plinking around or for light game. (I can buy 500 .22 hollowpoints for $7. Wow!
@@shenmisheshou7002 just think about my Airforce Texan LSS .457 caliber shooting an NSA 350 grain slug producing 600 plus FPE. My Impact M3 in .357 caliber is getting 168 to 172 FPE.
@@airguns_rc I kept it to the .22 to be fair to the comparison of the same caliber, but yes, a lot of firearms people don't really understand how powerful airguns have gotten. Per caliber, the firearm ammo is more powerful, but if you shoot a lot, as I do (about 500 shots a month, the cost of a really good airgun and compressor starts to look better and better the more you shoot. I stopped shooting firearms on a regular basis when I first discovered precision arighuns just before the Atlanta Olympics. My gun store/range had a 10M match pistol in their display case. I was infatuated by it and that was the beginning of the end of my regular shooting of firearms. I still have a 9mm pistol and a Colt Python, but I almost never shoot them. I shoot my FX Maverick 4 or 5 times a week.
@@shenmisheshou7002 I wasn’t mentioning the Texan to shoot against the .22 LR. I run the airgun competitions in The Greater Cincinnati Area. We have five airgun disciplines now this year. We have four clubs in Ohio, but at my club Fairfield Sportsman Association we have ASA 100 yard sanctioned Benchrest Competitions, Sanctioned N50 Benchrest Competitions starting this year, Rifle Field Target on a wooded course, we are starting pistol field target this year, and we are having speed silhouette competitions after the N50 competitions. I shoot at least 500 rounds a week and probably more between all my different calibers. I also attend the international competitions. Great people and great competitions. Who Tee Who got bit by the airgun bug last year. He has a few Airguns now. He has a Seneca Big Bore as well, the new Avenge X, and he has an FX Impact. I have my firearms and enjoy shooting them, but I honestly enjoy shooting my Airguns more.
@@shenmisheshou7002damn, $100 for 200 rounds of .22 LR is expensive. You could buy .22 LR for as low as $3.99 for a box of 50 down here in Texas.
I have a rim-fire air rifle that was factory made by Crossman to only shoot .22 pellets. They have made (most air rifle companies) these guns for decades.
Good test video WTW. The results are about what I expected. If you want to do another test, then use a .22LR with a solid bullet. I think the solid round-nose .22 LR will go further than the hollow point .22 LR. cartridge.
Maybe, next time use an air rifle powered by a pump-up/handle instead of an air compressor tank gizmo. Not all of us can afford an air-compressor gun.
Let's go dieseled pellet. 😮 If you do so, do it sparingly. Looking forward to the show my friend, see you soon.
Thanks for watching
I have been onto WTW to diesel a pellet for YEARS!!
@@YuckFoutube-e1z I have done it in a video before
I’m going to have to test my pellet slinger it claims on barrel 1300 fps but it’s only .177 good stuff here thanks for another great test
Maybe one more test? Fire the air pellet out of the rifle using a power hammer blank cartridge. Should get some awesome speeds and damage. Let us know if you try it. Great video...as always!!
Same Two Rifles clay Block video
Enjoy all those old jug videos
Hey!
Good evening all, I’ll be waiting to watch the video !!
Thanks for watching!
I have done a test on a watermelon with a hollowpoint airgun pellet at about 1600 fps. The watermelon completely exploded on impact, there was no exit hole so it completely desintegrated😮. No, it wasn't a regular airgun. Lesson learned: overspeeding a hp airgun pellet is lethal on impact😮
Thanks for sharing the video. Looks like both performed like they should. . 👍🇺🇸
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Love the jug videos too and gotta get me a good ol 22lr Rifle
You sound like the voice from family guy. Im listening to you with my eyes closed you sound just like him lol😂
🤣🤣🤣
No, He is Hank Hill.
I killed a 6 point buck with a 22 pellet out of a Benjamin nitro piston rifle. It was an accident…just testing the thing out. Had no idea it was lethal in any scenario. Hip fired it at a deer in my yard. Killed it after hitting it behind the ear (we found out when fish n game came over)
I would like to see more .22 air rifle, I do like that crow mag. I'm trying to find a great projectile. Benjamin vaporizer.
Awesome video as usual brother. But as a airhead I gotta say there are much badder 22 air rifles out there. A 36gr 22 slug at 1050 is well within reach. That being said the avenger is a great little plinker. Stay awesome WTW
A better comparison would be 22cal CB rounds or shorts VS 22cal pellet rifle....
A lot of people thinks pellet guns match 22 lr lots of people think 9 mm matches 357 magnum not quite but I wouldn't mind having one of those air guns
I have a Gamo magnums .22 caliber with velocity 1750 fps. Nice to see air tool
The 2nd and 3rd milk jugs were touching, or it would prob. have penetrated into the third. If you want penetration with a pellet rifle, you need solid ammo. I have had my 22 cal. break barrel air rifle do three milk jugs. It Chrono's around 800 fps with a 14 grain pellet. Most pellet guns will not compete with a 22 LR . Even shorts, but will do a number on small game, if the shot placement is right on. Thanks for the video!
Anyone else see a tiny wooden spool with four tiny milk jugs on it!??? See the beginning.
In the next comparison video between air vs firearm, it will be cool if you find both projectiles with the same mass!
This is great stuff! 👍🏻 😊
Thanks for watching!
How about a cost comparison. Initial cost , ammo cost, setup cost, etc.
Pellets much cheaper and just as much fun I will go with pellets, And pellet rifle is not firearm.
Handy in city limits.
I'm on team LR, but respect the applications of a pellet where firearms would cause problems. Otherwise, they cost the same per shot(If you use the non-lead pellets that I use), and one simply hits harder.
Lower speed and less mass equals a lot less kinetic energy, that was some nice expansion from the pellet though, I wasn't expecting that 😮
Be cool to see this tested with 22 LR fitting concrete blanks pushing 22 pellets. They make different strength blanks as well. Curious on the different speeds and penetration
I came here looking for this comment.
Think if you used a dome pellet or a crossman HP you would have probably been right. The crow Mag had a huge HP. Good video!!!
Now you need to "Diesel" that pellet. A drop of oil in the air cavity. Using my Gammo Maxxim shooting at a 2x10 a standard shot penetrated 4/32in. After adding the drop of oil, it penetrated 21/32in. Apparently the oil ignites and fires that pellet out like a .22L. I've broken the sound barrier creating a crack that any gun guy would swear id just shot a .22LR!
I always like to mess around with the 177 and the 22 pellet rifle. I put some vicks vaporub
In the back side of the pellets. An then check the speed difference. Some people call it dieseling. You don't have to fill it to up half way to 3/4. It will be faster then the 22 LR. Just to let you know don't use some cheap pellet rifle. At 50 yards I can get a 1 to 1 1/2 inch Group. I don't know if you can show this on TH-cam. It sounds like you're shooting a 22 LR. It a fun thing to mess around with.
Good stuff.
I guess i follow too many people on here. I have a whole back catalog of your content, brother. I hope you're okay out there. You look warmer than a lot of other folks. 😂 it's even been cold out here. Stay warm and keep churning out this great content. 🤙🏾
Been in the 60s here for a few weeks. Appreciate you watching!
@WHOTEEWHO you gotta come check out the big island before it gets all city like. I'd rather you come have fun before it gets like Honolulu. Thanks again for everything you do, brother. 🤙🏾
WTW. I wonder if they both would make it out of the back of the jug that caught them, if the next jug was an inch away instead of them all touching.
Possible
Your heavy breathing sounds like mine before my heart stent. You are a handy guy building that fun property. Shame if the next guy gets to enjoy it. OR, what if he's a gun hater ?
Good stuff. Always like videos like this. 👍
More to come!
i would suggest doing a 22 pistol, 3 or 4 in barrel test with about the same FPS as the pellet rifle. that would be fun to see.
Air rifles are great for backyard practice. You can use a suppressor to mute the sound but I have to say WOW are they expensive! I'm in the wrong business lol
That air rifle is a low power rifle. There are plenty of air rifles with greater power/velocity that are closer to the rimfire. Also, the weight of the lr projectile is twice that of the pellet. That is a doubly unfair comparison. If you used a slug in the air rifle and a high-power air rifle it would be a fairer comparison. A better comparison would be an FX Impact with slugs verses the .22 lr.
Thank you for the data. Can you diesel that pellet gun with chap stick?
Awesome
New subscriber. Enjoying the content!
Thanks so much! Appreciate you watching!
Thanks for an enjoyable video.
Thanks for watching!
Do barrel lengths of test rifles have any significant impact on velocity?
A bit
Keep up the good videos brother
The chronograph of the air rifle .22 is slightly higher than a 32 grain 22LR CCI Stinger being shot by a North American Arms (NAA) with a 1.13" barrel (this tiny revolver can fit into a pack of cigarettes, 100's). Comparing these two in milk jugs (or anything else) would be incredibly fascinating! I wish more 22LR comparisons used the NAA 22LR, as it is basically the worst case scenario option for this round.
Also the energy transfer destruction between the air rifle and 22LR was very significant. The air rifle basically just poked a hole. Whereas the 22LR caused a small explosion in the first jug. Would these results be the same with a 22LR being shot at roughly the same velocity as the air rifle?
36 grains at 850fps is less than half the energy of the 36 grain at 1280fps 57 ft lbs vs 131, and that crow mangum pellet is 18 grains at 850fps so its only 28 ft/lbs of energy.
You should try the CCI 22 Quiets, those would be a fair match with the pellet gun, very similar velocity.
And compare the Quiets with the CCI Stingers, see what kind of difference velocity really makes. 👍😉
I think you would find more penetration, possibly if you used a non-expanding pellet. Some pellets even have a sharp pointed head that you could try as comparison.
Enjoyed the video Who Tee !
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I knew exactly what was gonna happen here but watched any way. When I was growing up I had a sheridan pellet rifle. I know what they can do vs a .22.
I have a FX M3 30 cal. I also have the same compressor. I am in the 950 fps range. With Diablo 44gr pellets. I seem to enjoy shooting my air more than the rim. I thought it would have went into the second jug 💫🤘
Adam good video, if you really want to see good expansion from a pellet gun, try some zan slugs, rgds steve
I’ll predict that it would even be close. At all.
those jugs remind me of the old plastic drinks they used to sell at the store :)
Have you seen the Slugs for air rifles? I would like to see the difference in performance. Reg vs slugs
.22 air rifles are about handgun velocity, but of course a much lighter pellet/ bullet weight. For small game at short range a .22 air rifle is very capable, Hay you can even get .30 cal air rifles capable of taking deer.
The .22lr is as always very effective on a lot of game, it's often dismissed as weak and almost a "toy" but it's definitely not. A lot of people have been killed by accident because others didn't think it capable of much, and disregarded a safe backstop.
Weight difference in projectiles made the difference IMO. Good Job wtw
You should do a comparison of the 22 air rifle vs 22CB.. they're both going pretty much the same speed
An Avenger is a regulated rifle with power adjustments. What was your power setting?
Which one would I pick? Thank God I live in a state with freedom. I can pick both.
Those 50 cal air rifles are pretty cool.
Absolutely
Have you tried, the non lead pellets ?
They're both subsonic so I'm not surprised by the results. If the 22 long was supersonic it would've broken up and only gone as far as the pellet, I don't think the jacket on the 22 long made that much difference. I'll go with the rim fire first cause I don't want to take the time to re gas my gun all the time.
I think a .22 short, if you can find them, is going to be closer to an air rifle. Weren’t they usually around 800-900fps?
Yea, shorts are around that velocity. There’s also super calibra that are around 600.
Interesting video, thanks
Thanks for watching
If Daisy was smart thery would bring back the 922 , Improve the speed some get it up into the 750fps range
I have access to just Two Milk Juggs and certainly won't be doing that to them.
You must have been using hard water! 🤣
Battle of the 22’s
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try a Gamo Pro Hunter with a pointy pellet