Turned out quite nice apart from the wheels. Chrome spokes are classic. These black ones look like he got them out of a skip, which being Drew he may have.
Agree - chrome wires are perfect, and correct for the car. Black is an abomination and looks dreadful. And will knock thousands off the price of the car. Look at the actual sale prices for TR4s - those with Minilites, and other non-correct wheels go for £4k less than those with chrome wires. This "Drew" character is a complete t*****. Knows nothing. And the finished car looks dreadful. Ugly.
Please will someone help de value a TR4, I have tried all the usual specialists and all they keep doing is adding value,,ahhh finally two people that can obviously help!
I bought my TR4 in 1978, fresh from a short race career (mostly autocross). Restored it to street condition (sort of) and drove it until a drunk in a pickup ran into the back end. He had no insurance so to make what I got from my insurer go farther, I undertook a pretty extreme, but relatively amateur restoration. Drove it another five years, then parked it planning a more thorough restoration which it's gradually undergone the last 20 years. Still have it, but in storage since I have no garage at present. It has a rebuilt, stiffened and reinforced frame, rebuilt suspension and brakes, rebuilt overdrive gearbox (7 speed, effectively), and a lot of the mods used on the four factory rally cars that were prepped here in the US. It's fitted with an original aluminum factory hard top (some call it a Surrey, though that's incorrect). Virtually every nut and bolt underneath is new and upgraded to race quality. I have yet to build the engine, though I have most the parts for the job set aside... Mild cam upgrade, oversize valves, new pistons AE and sleeves, pair of Weber DCOE 40, alternator conversion, lightened flywheel, electric fan, oil cooler, harmonic balancer, high performance water pump, pair of electric fuel pumps, pressure regulator and some more. Body work will be the final project. It had it's share of dings before I got it, plus the repairs I did years ago aren't as good as I'd like. It will be getting functional fender vents... I haven't decided whether they'll be the works rally car style or the TRS LeMans style. I do like those Michelotti style too, though I'd prefer to see them match the body color. Also not a fan of trendy black wheels on any car, let alone a TR4. The orig. steel wheels were usually painted to match the body color, with small "cake pan" chrome hub caps. Wires were available as an option, but were always painted argent silver, never chromed (ugh). The rally cars used a magnesium alloy mag wheel, the closest today are Konig Rewinds. I have similar KN mags on my car, but may switch to the Rewinds. AFAIK, there was never a factory option for a center lock wheel other than the wires. However, KN made a version of their mags with cenrerlock hubs that fit right up in place of the wires. I don't know if those are still available. Much as I love the TR4, I also really like the TR2 and 3... I have a spare TR4 frame squirreled away to maybe someday build a TR3 Beta, basically a TR3 widened to TR4 stance, with the later model's rack & pinion steering and some other tweaks. Only a couple Betas were built as possible replacement for the TR3A, but they opted to go with the TR4 instead. Funny thing was, dealers didn't think the TR4 would sell, with those roll up windows and all. So Triumph kept building TR3B to sell alongside the TR4. Also wouldn't mind a TR6, GT6 and TR8 in my garage (when I get moved). But my favorite by far is the Italia! That was the prettiest Triymph ever made, IMO. Good luck finding one, though.
I agree with most of the comments on here, how does Drew manage to get away with his modifications that absolutely ruin these wonderful classic cars, I remember in a past episode where he completely ruined an MG TD's looks again with the wheels and paint job, also a VW Beetle that had rusty panels and wanted to keep the patina and so had a brand new wing that it needed but had it painted as if it was rusty ugh, then he seems to find enthusiasts that slap him on the back and tell him how wonderful his innovations are, surely true enthusiasts would be screaming at him for ruining these projects imho. Why doesn't he asked the members of the club for whatever model it is for their input to keep it true to the days of when it left the factory.
Anyone else getting the whiff of Emperors new clothes syndrome? All I’m seeing is a ruined TR4 that should have chrome wire wheels. Although I’m not a master of style and taste like Lord Drew
Must age pretty much with all comments. They normally do a good job but not this time vents & wheels an absolute disaster. Should have left well alone.
Oh dear what a mess. A straight forward 4 without 4a trim is quite rare. Now ruined. He should stick to messing around with German boxes and leave our beautiful cars alone. Awful ideas, truly awful.
If the wing vents were added as part of the TR4, TR4A lineage along their product runs, then, I can see this. Otherwise, just some hacked restomod. Go ahead and put a Ford V-8 in that thing at that point. For example, the TR4A added the metal strip running along the top of the door/wing with the integrated turn signal indicator, the strip running from the front of the wing till the rear quarter panel. My dad made the same update to his TR4 cause he liked the look. To me, that seems reasonable as it was a factory option within the TR4 lineage run of production.
I almost bought a dark blue Triumph 4 , many years ago. I did own an MGB. classic dark green with hard top. I liked the original, but Drew seems really happy with his version.
2 ways to de-value a beautiful car. Those wheels look utterly shite, wire wheels looked a thousand times better. The vents might be better if styled or painted differently, but currently look like a bit of tacky plastic. Drew should not be messing with cars this good. Go back to chairs matey.
I've had a good idea, why not make it a homage to that style icon 1970s custom car mag, cut a hole in the bonnet and fit a shaker scoop and some wolfrace wheels, then a sunstrip saying drew and Paul?
@@nelsonclub7722 yes, it's the finishing touch, I can't see how a restorer could possibly cut holes in a tr4 's wings, hopefully the next owner will let new metal in St away.
A great car ruined with the daft vents cut into the wings, wheels that don’t suit and an unnecessary roll cage. Strange as the cars these guys do are normally top notch.
...Are those MGA twin cam center lock wheels painted black ?......I've owned and driven my TR3A 52 years...Switched the wire wheels for solids in the mid '70s, but always wanted solids with center locks (knock offs) like the twin cam MGA (although, MG wheels are ugly)....I've seen TR6 wheels re-centered to use splined hubs , but I wouldn't put them on a TR3A......John (west coast, Can.)
I hate the black painted wheels and roof. The original chrome wire wheels looked so much better. The side vent would be OK if it were body color, but it doesn't look right in black. Thanks.
Have to agree with Drew regarding chrome wires, yuk. However the vents should be the proper works rally vents, using the old Herald grille inserts as original. Freely available from TR experts. Those plasticky ones are naff.
Yet another that drew thinks is a dreadful car but looks like an aston martin and from the rear it looks like a corniche and now he hates wire wheels yet a few weeks ago he demanded wire wheels were fitted to something that shouldn't have them, sometimes I feel like putting my boot through the TV, I only watch it because of Paul who has a wealth of experience and knowledge and is down to earth.....
Drew: Looks at the TR4: UGH those chrome wires are hideous that's not 60's Looks at the prototype from the 60's with chrome wire wheels: Oy mate this is just class. Done. Fantastic.
Obviously Drew knows better than Michelotti?.......not! How to ruin a classic car in one episode. Black steel wheels???? Do me a favour. If he was chocolate, he'd eat himself. His pal bends to his every whim. Rubbish.
The clown even took the wire wheels off that were clearly there on the concept car. Now it looks truly terrible with its dreadful wheels and oversized vents.
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What have you done to it? Must have devalued it by a few thousand.
Horrific in black looks like he popped down Halfords or ordered £2.99 vents of ebay
Looks like something he picked up at Blackbushe market in 1975.
Turned out quite nice apart from the wheels. Chrome spokes are classic. These black ones look like he got them out of a skip, which being Drew he may have.
Agree - chrome wires are perfect, and correct for the car. Black is an abomination and looks dreadful. And will knock thousands off the price of the car. Look at the actual sale prices for TR4s - those with Minilites, and other non-correct wheels go for £4k less than those with chrome wires. This "Drew" character is a complete t*****. Knows nothing. And the finished car looks dreadful. Ugly.
3:23 and it's got wire wheels. Drew then hacks the TR4 like a butcher's apprentice with a hangover.
Why, oh why did Drew think that putting the wheels from an old Foden lorry onto a TR4 would enhance its looks?
Please will someone help de value a TR4, I have tried all the usual specialists and all they keep doing is adding value,,ahhh finally two people that can obviously help!
I'm surprised Dew didn't convert it into a 3 wheeler. Single wheel at the front, of course!
Harry Enfield did a great sketch called I saw you coming. This is Drew Pritchard to a tee!
Needed the wire wheels back on and the vents chromed. Sorry Drew.
I bought my TR4 in 1978, fresh from a short race career (mostly autocross). Restored it to street condition (sort of) and drove it until a drunk in a pickup ran into the back end. He had no insurance so to make what I got from my insurer go farther, I undertook a pretty extreme, but relatively amateur restoration. Drove it another five years, then parked it planning a more thorough restoration which it's gradually undergone the last 20 years.
Still have it, but in storage since I have no garage at present. It has a rebuilt, stiffened and reinforced frame, rebuilt suspension and brakes, rebuilt overdrive gearbox (7 speed, effectively), and a lot of the mods used on the four factory rally cars that were prepped here in the US. It's fitted with an original aluminum factory hard top (some call it a Surrey, though that's incorrect). Virtually every nut and bolt underneath is new and upgraded to race quality.
I have yet to build the engine, though I have most the parts for the job set aside... Mild cam upgrade, oversize valves, new pistons AE and sleeves, pair of Weber DCOE 40, alternator conversion, lightened flywheel, electric fan, oil cooler, harmonic balancer, high performance water pump, pair of electric fuel pumps, pressure regulator and some more.
Body work will be the final project. It had it's share of dings before I got it, plus the repairs I did years ago aren't as good as I'd like. It will be getting functional fender vents... I haven't decided whether they'll be the works rally car style or the TRS LeMans style. I do like those Michelotti style too, though I'd prefer to see them match the body color.
Also not a fan of trendy black wheels on any car, let alone a TR4. The orig. steel wheels were usually painted to match the body color, with small "cake pan" chrome hub caps. Wires were available as an option, but were always painted argent silver, never chromed (ugh). The rally cars used a magnesium alloy mag wheel, the closest today are Konig Rewinds. I have similar KN mags on my car, but may switch to the Rewinds. AFAIK, there was never a factory option for a center lock wheel other than the wires. However, KN made a version of their mags with cenrerlock hubs that fit right up in place of the wires. I don't know if those are still available.
Much as I love the TR4, I also really like the TR2 and 3... I have a spare TR4 frame squirreled away to maybe someday build a TR3 Beta, basically a TR3 widened to TR4 stance, with the later model's rack & pinion steering and some other tweaks. Only a couple Betas were built as possible replacement for the TR3A, but they opted to go with the TR4 instead. Funny thing was, dealers didn't think the TR4 would sell, with those roll up windows and all. So Triumph kept building TR3B to sell alongside the TR4. Also wouldn't mind a TR6, GT6 and TR8 in my garage (when I get moved). But my favorite by far is the Italia! That was the prettiest Triymph ever made, IMO. Good luck finding one, though.
I liked the MGC Roadster by didn't like that, put the wires back on and if you had to keep the vents chrome or nickel them too.
What he said.. 100%
I agree with most of the comments on here, how does Drew manage to get away with his modifications that absolutely ruin these wonderful classic cars, I remember in a past episode where he completely ruined an MG TD's looks again with the wheels and paint job, also a VW Beetle that had rusty panels and wanted to keep the patina and so had a brand new wing that it needed but had it painted as if it was rusty ugh, then he seems to find enthusiasts that slap him on the back and tell him how wonderful his innovations are, surely true enthusiasts would be screaming at him for ruining these projects imho. Why doesn't he asked the members of the club for whatever model it is for their input to keep it true to the days of when it left the factory.
Did they actually cut holes in the wings? If they did that's just crazy.
Yes, it was a truly moronic act of vandalism.
@@BigDuke6ixx yes bud, it's all form over function with drew.
You are 100% right. Plus those black wheels instead of the period correct chrome wires that push up the price of the car by £4k on average.
@@geoffsaunders4960 yes bud
Anyone else getting the whiff of Emperors new clothes syndrome? All I’m seeing is a ruined TR4 that should have chrome wire wheels. Although I’m not a master of style and taste like Lord Drew
Drew needs to stick to Antiques. Ruined it!
Hacking Ikea is about all he's good for.
Better in chrome than flat black !
Must age pretty much with all comments. They normally do a good job but not this time vents & wheels an absolute disaster. Should have left well alone.
that guy should stick to the woodworm he hasn't got a clue about cars
Looked better how it was originally. Even the designer had wire wheels on it.
The works rally cars from the era had side vents. They were also a great light blue color.
Sorry ~John, you're wrong. The originals rally cars were whiteout vents. Dose vents come in a later period. ;-)
Devalued the car.. It will be put back to original condition again sometime in the future.. Just leave it standard
Made a right mess of that car. Leave cars to the experts Drew.
As the owner of a white TR-250 with wire wheels loved the show.
Just watched the episode. Blacked out wheels ! It's like the Council Estate scally . . . sun out . . . put the shorts on . . . black socks.
I personally like the wire wheels
Oh dear what a mess. A straight forward 4 without 4a trim is quite rare. Now ruined.
He should stick to messing around with German boxes and leave our beautiful cars alone. Awful ideas, truly awful.
Paul's a bit of a sycophant where Drew is concerned.Stick antiques your out of your depth.
If the wing vents were added as part of the TR4, TR4A lineage along their product runs, then, I can see this. Otherwise, just some hacked restomod. Go ahead and put a Ford V-8 in that thing at that point. For example, the TR4A added the metal strip running along the top of the door/wing with the integrated turn signal indicator, the strip running from the front of the wing till the rear quarter panel. My dad made the same update to his TR4 cause he liked the look.
To me, that seems reasonable as it was a factory option within the TR4 lineage run of production.
What a nightmare, the wheels look naff as does the vent, Drew has absolutely no idea about classic cars.
I almost bought a dark blue Triumph 4 , many years ago. I did own an MGB. classic dark green with hard top. I liked the original, but Drew seems really happy with his version.
Side vent from a Freelander 2 ! Ugly. Black steel wheels what! Should have been Minilites or steel with chrome caps
2 ways to de-value a beautiful car. Those wheels look utterly shite, wire wheels looked a thousand times better. The vents might be better if styled or painted differently, but currently look like a bit of tacky plastic. Drew should not be messing with cars this good. Go back to chairs matey.
Agree. WT…. Chrome wires are a must and the vents just don’t look right. Why modified what’s already beautiful.
He's arrogant, that's his issue. He'd retouch the Mona Lisa if given the chance.
THE NEW WHEELS ARE AWFUL AND VENT S NEED TO BE CHROMED
I've had a good idea, why not make it a homage to that style icon 1970s custom car mag, cut a hole in the bonnet and fit a shaker scoop and some wolfrace wheels, then a sunstrip saying drew and Paul?
Cupla fluffy dice and the look is almost complete
@@nelsonclub7722 yes, it's the finishing touch, I can't see how a restorer could possibly cut holes in a tr4 's wings, hopefully the next owner will let new metal in St away.
Must have been the taste of an untasteful man. BLACK! It´s a strong "No go"!! Both for wheels and vents. That´s not Michelotti, that´s crap!
A great car ruined with the daft vents cut into the wings, wheels that don’t suit and an unnecessary roll cage. Strange as the cars these guys do are normally top notch.
...Are those MGA twin cam center lock wheels painted black ?......I've owned and driven my TR3A 52 years...Switched the wire wheels for solids in the mid '70s, but always wanted solids with center locks (knock offs) like the twin cam MGA (although, MG wheels are ugly)....I've seen TR6 wheels re-centered to use splined hubs , but I wouldn't put them on a TR3A......John (west coast, Can.)
Ironically the front fenders will need replacing back to original spec to protect the car’s value.
I hate the black painted wheels and roof. The original chrome wire wheels looked so much better. The side vent would be OK if it were body color, but it doesn't look right in black. Thanks.
G'Day only a TAFFY could do what he has done, from Chrome Wheels to Dumpster finds,Stick with the Furniture Mate!!!
Hello,Does anyone know where this places is?
Have to agree with Drew regarding chrome wires, yuk. However the vents should be the proper works rally vents, using the old Herald grille inserts as original. Freely available from TR experts. Those plasticky ones are naff.
Love this show!!!!
Why chrome wires were developed? Rust and nightmare of keeping clean with the original painted.
Sorry drew you have ruined this car, stick to your antiques mate, bloody awful
Hope you still got chrome wheels I think they better
Yet another that drew thinks is a dreadful car but looks like an aston martin and from the rear it looks like a corniche and now he hates wire wheels yet a few weeks ago he demanded wire wheels were fitted to something that shouldn't have them, sometimes I feel like putting my boot through the TV, I only watch it because of Paul who has a wealth of experience and knowledge and is down to earth.....
Really bad idea to cut holes in the wings.
God that's terrible
Drew:
Looks at the TR4: UGH those chrome wires are hideous that's not 60's
Looks at the prototype from the 60's with chrome wire wheels: Oy mate this is just class. Done. Fantastic.
Utterly destroyed
great job looks spot on the vents and the wheels really transform the sporty look
i had one and regret selling it
That Pritchard is clueless about cars.
The reason Im selling this car is that its time to sell this car..uh ha
Obviously Drew knows better than Michelotti?.......not! How to ruin a classic car in one episode. Black steel wheels???? Do me a favour. If he was chocolate, he'd eat himself. His pal bends to his every whim. Rubbish.
That is a disgrace, those wheels and tyres are awful. Another Drew classic lol
Wtf
Made a classic Triumph look awful with those wheels and the vents though well made did not enhance it.
poo poo
The clown even took the wire wheels off that were clearly there on the concept car. Now it looks truly terrible with its dreadful wheels and oversized vents.
Wheels are vile
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Not good !
I nice car for a woman or a 4 feet tall man!
But who wants a German car......
I think working with all that woodworm has got to his head. Totally ruined the looks of a beautiful car.
Stick to furniture
Only just watched this and must say the finished car looks awful.
How to ruin a classic car! Watch this----