Who can blame Cobra? He was in the present day story when he entered the Reverie. He didn't know Oda will screw him over by telling the story the way he did
@@unclephillymya if anyone is actually shocked its that Oda actually killed a character. Which im still not convinced. Cobra gonna be there on Vivis wedding day or some shit.
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I think the narrative people are trying to push is that Fujitora fighting Karasu wasn't a serious fight. Like all of Fujitora's attacks 'missed' and ended up freeing slaves instead. Greenbull notices this, gets pissed, and goes to confront Fujitora about it. While they start to argue / fight the Revolutionaries get the fuck out of there. In that context the revolutionaries are a lot less impressive, and Fujitora's help becomes a lot more significant. It also kind of makes a lot more sense than Fujitora just randomly freeing slaves after the fight. It fits much more with his Dressrosa behaviour if he just 'accidentally' freed slaves while 'fighting' Karasu.
Okay but they was stuck on two men. And that’s two Admirals were talking about. How you gonna be an Admiral but only be impressive with your Devil Fruit and not Haki? 🤔🧐
@@PKLO9727 also, its implied the only reason morley was able to get to kuma is because fujitora and greenbull fought eachother instead of the revolutionaries.
I have a thought that Toki and Lili met up on Wano. They used Posideon in some way, which rose Wano above sea level, causing the Ponyglyphs to scatter across the world. Over the course of 800 years the blue ponyglyphs wondered further from the New World, but the Red ones stayed on the NW half. Which would make sense because history repeats itself, and hence why Vivi and Shirohoshi are bonded together by Luffy. Vivi unaware Shirohoshi is Poseiden and Vivi being a descendant of a D. The D. clan all seem to intertwine to cause a ruckus for Imu and their party
An Ink Devil Fruit cold be insanely OP if Oda decided it had some kind of "meta" powers, given how the manga is drawn in ink, maybe it would grant the user the ability to change and create things at will by "adding ink to the pages which make up their reality".
@jrrr9219of course i know that duh, mine was a semplification of what happened, imu crosses an island on a map with ink and than energy rain down from the sky destroyng the island
@@mugiwara_k9283- I think this is a upgraded version of the darkness fruit something like the void-void fruit and possibly the polar opposite of Luffy DF.
People calling Revs frauds as if the admirals couldn't injure them without having to rely on their DFs. Haki>DFs. Greenbull so trash he carries a sword that he doesn't even use in the one situation where his DF is useless lmfao
I know it may sound stupid af, but there is a small chance that his sword is black, he wears it without sheet so i highly doubt its just for design purposes
The rev captains still needed help from Fujitora even though Greenbull was holding back. Sabo and a few good letdowns. Hopefully Dragon doesn't dissappoint.💀💀
I think there is more to the flashback where ace gives sabo the D. Initial in his name. What if anyone can be a member of the D clan. What if the D clan are not bound by blood but by an idea or a promise, the idea to one day bring "Dawn" to the world. It also can be infered when queen Lily signed her name with the D. Initial that she declared herself a member of those who oppose the WG, it appears the D may also stand for those who oppose the WG. This makes perfect sense considering you can't kill an idea, just what whitebeard said in his final speech about the D. Individuals "Even if you extinguish their bloodline, there's no way that their flame will ever burn out".
😂 KOL has the reading comprehension of a 3 year old I guess this is the case if you have an agenda in mind. Greenbull being intimidated by shanks dosen’t necessarily 100 percent mean shanks>greenbull the reason being is because of shanks having his crew to intimidate greenbull with how do I know? The narrative implies this with greenbull stating “the red hair pirates?!?!” Or “I get it already I don’t want to fight with you guys” also right after the prior statement I’ve shown he says “or for now atleast” meaning if he wasn’t provided with such a disadvantage he will be ready to fight shanks head on. Now you may ask who in one piece has been intimated while being stronger than the intimidator. An example of this is Rayleigh intimidating black beard to disengage him and despite this Raleigh himself states he most likely would lose against black beard 1 on 1. This argument that people keep providing over and over again is literally so flawed especially in the world of one piece.
And why is he ignoring the world balance with the goresei being afraid of yonko meet ups. yonko forming an alliance will cause a massive diss balance due to the fact that 2 yonko can defeat another yonko and gain access to the poneglyph that the yonko whom was defeated has. this will bring them closer to the one piece since a single yonko has acess to more poneglyph the reason the yonko can’t become pirate king is due to the fact all of them are holding their own poneglyph’s and are stopping each other from achieving it that’s what’s keeping world balance.
We all know Shanks is stronger than Greenbull stop trying so hard LMFAO why would Oda make a random admiral stronger than Shanks does not make any sense. Hop off their D son
KOL, just for a minute, take another good look at the panel where Cobra is initially attacked. He was looking up at Imu while the attack came from his back left side. The Gorusai were the ones surrounding him, so it had to have been one of the two Gorusai on his left.
That doesn’t really make sense when the Gorosei pulled out guns and a sword to kill Cobra. Why pull out those weapons if they were gonna use a DF ability anyways?
It obviously can't be the gorosei because they wouldn't be the first one to make a move. Imu is in charge, they would only attack if he/she gives the order Cobra was killed immediately after he revealed the D in Lilis name so it was clearly imu. The gorosei wouldn't kill cobra whilst Imu is still talking to him
lmao the fact that kol cant accept that the admirals stopped themselves here all the while saying everyone else is doing mental gymnastics is the real crazy thing here lmao
@@rochekalifa2074 It's a win with regard to their strength. The Revs were unable to damage the Admirals with anything lasting. Morley got some limbs, but Greenbull seemed unphased while Morley in that panel was scuffed up (though next chapter those scuffs are gone when Morley saves Kuma). The only time we see the admirals scuffed up was from in-fighting. Additionally, Jyabura's statement implies Fujitora did more than one thing that contributed to the Revolutionaries being able to free the slaves. Meaning of the Revolutonaries' 3 objectives, Fujitora actions were a notable contribution to their success on what would have been the hardest one to complete. In terms of publicity and objectives, the World Government and Marines took a total loss. The Revolutionaries did everything they wanted and got out without casualties. The Admirals as individuals appear to have had differing goals from one another. Greenbull is certianly on the losing side as his beliefs and actions are in line with the WG's objectives. He wasn't hung so despite Morley's size and terrain shifting powers, he managed to prevent the Celestial Dragons from being damaged while being undamaged himself until he fought Fujitora. Fujitora seems to have wanted to help the Slaves as he took actions that ensured they were freed from the hold of the Celestial Dragons. We can reasonably assume they were deliberate actions as Fujitora did enough for Greenbull to notice and choose to fight Fujitora over pursuing/continuing to fight the Revolutionaries.
Wait a minute, I actually like this idea. Rocks was probably insane so breaking taboos I wouldn't put past him lol and if imu tried to fight him? Rocks: Ight, bet😈
Who knew Wapol would become relevant in 2023 and be the one to rescue Vivi It's sure not a Shadow but a tail right lol The lore in this chapter was insane Fujitora not giving a fuck about freeing slaves from the government, Akainu is gonna be pissed
Well, we already saw them having a chat after the matter. So I guess they're good, relatively speaking. Remember we're in a flashback that happened over a month ago.
There are a few points I'd like to mention: 1. The Admirals are in the top 3 strongest forces of the government thus far. We've seen the Gorosei and Imu, we've seen the Admirals and we're yet to see the Holy Knights. 2. I bet that the shadows we saw in the Florian Triangle were the Gorosei. 3. What if Imu and the Gorosei have a third kind of power that's not Devil Fruits or Haki?
This is why we need Kol and brago streams. KOL has to have someone talking to him live or else he copes hard and doesnt even understand the arguments. "Rando slaves" nobody is saying those slaves are more important than kuma bro. You missing the entire point of people bringing up the fact that fujitora helped just because the slaves are random people!?!?
Admiral stans gassing admirals by trying to downplay everything they're in is nuts bro, the better you make the admirals looks here the better the revs look for it, there's no way around it-- who cares? The point is that regardless of what happened, like 5 mid tier characters went into mariejois, with gorosei, admirals, and god knights present, and not a one of them was captured. If that's because the opps didn't try, then how does that make them look good? The admirals not being able to get one small fodder captured because of infighting and disloyalty looks fucking awful on their part bro they're incompetent enough to let this happen as an organization.
@orom6581 "the better you make the admirals look here the better the revs look" uh not if an admiral is literally helping them by freeing slaves and holding off another admiral💀 you cant just be like "regardless of what happened". Context matters. We all know this and have talked about it 1000 times in regards to the worlds perception of luffy. You only choose to say context doesnt matter when it fits your agenda. "Looks awful on their part" it looks awful on their part as marines but not as fighters. Nobody is saying they did their job well. We're talking scaling buddy. You keeep combining the ultimate goal from their job with scaling. Those are two diff things. Because if fujitora is freeing slaves and holding off greenbull he doesnt gaf about letting the revs escape therefore sure you can call him ass in a job perspective but not scaling...context.
@@orom6581 The revs definitely were going in hard on utility AND they used the terrain to their advantage basically a hostage situation, the admirals needed years of built up differing views of justice to disloyalty and retarded slave rulers that are all gathered up not wanting to get killed or get them executed to even get this to happen, so both sides turn out not looking that bad. CPO the ones looking incompetent in all of this tbh.
As far as I'm concerned both the admirals and the revs look good. The revs accomplished what they set out to do and the admirals were only damaged by each other.
Not Really, According to that "Ladyhero" comment: The Admirals "in-fighting" only made the Revs victory accomplishing their objectives more embarrassing then anything. And Revs took no Damage either
the revs are tactical. They got what they wanted because of luck and tactics. Only Dragon is strong in the revolutionary army. Dragon is the arch enemy of Akainu
Why does Chopper can block Big Mom’s attack, but a few good man stall admirals for a short period? I think a few good men are still clean but respect the admirals. W on Fuji for playing on our side tho 😂
Definitely a W for Fuji. Best admiral so far if we're talking about moral. If we are talking about KOL agenda. The agenda is always about admiral and yonko. This chapter make fujitora take an L. Last time we knew he got bandages. So this chapter implied the bandages is a result from fighting greenbull. Remember, This is the same greenbull who peed his pants from a wifi haki from a red yonko
@@g.g7427 no. It does make fujitora look bad, if we are talking about KOL's agenda (admiral strength far below yonkou stregnth agenda) . He got bandages from fighting greenbull. Greenbul is another admiral who peed his pants from wifi-haki. It surely make fuji look bad. Thus he took an L, if we are talking about admiral vs yonko agenda
@@KmsMohd I myself know that Admirals are under Yonkos lol My problem are the Sabo fanboys who thought he took 2 Admirals at the same time which he obviously didn’t and also didn’t hurt them !!!
I could see Imu with the Nightmare fruit and he can manipulate reality. Luffy is bringing the dawn, which is when you wake up. Dreams are a big part of the story, the opposite of a dream is a nightmare. Both Luffy and Imu would be bending reality in different ways during the finale fight, which Oda would love to draw. Imu might've changed the gorosei into monsters to save them taking Sabo's attack.
i love kol reactions but this guy is reading a whole different story lmao his ass pulls are wild. down playing a few good men? if a random character even looks at a admiral for a second and lives, kol over here thinking thats a admiral L. the story straight up said the admirals couldnt fight back because of the celestials that were around
Bruh that would literally be insane imu and the 5 elders are basically the story "where the wild things are " The kid being the king to 5 monsters bruh it Makes sense 😂
Every week people have theories of "oh this thing is this exact other thing" but they never turn out true. Oda may take inspiration but the final products are always original to Oda
I think this now confirms that the 20th weapon that wasn't placed at the foot of the throne wasn't Lili's but rather Imu's weapon. Because why would he/she swear to themself. They just used the Nefataris as an excuse as to why one is missing. My head canon: Shanks might be Imu's kid. Why else would the Gorosei say that "You're only allowed in here because its you." I think Roger discovered his lineage through the truth on Laugh Tale and thats why he was crying. And I think Gryphon is the sword Imu didn't put at the throne.
@@jay7166 I'm just thinking out loud. Either way, the sword that we see in Imu's garden that everyone is assuming is his/hers look a lot like Shanks sword. The guard and the hilt look the same.
@@cheshirewise942 because why would the goresei be scared or respect shanks when we see that these guys are obviously up there in strength and have some crazy dfs. like is shanks making dealss with the devil???
There's no way Fujitora is still an Admiral after this. I know Akainu and Aokiji had an intense battle for Fleet Position, but Akainu needs to fight Fujitora!
This is an INSANE chapter tbh. We still don’t know if the 5 Elders are Admiral Level yet but at least it’s confirmed that they aren’t just figure heads for Imu and the WG. Imu must be the Yonko Fighter of the WG. And ayo, Luffy is about to fight one of those Elders in a second too 👀. I feel like the only other person who have knocked one of them over is Roger and Rayleigh. After seeing this Chapter, if Luffy knocks that Elder out it’s going to be MAJOR. More Major than him beating Kizaru. Shiiiii… Oda might make Luffy send both of them flying… (maybe not fully knocked out but enough to let them all leave Egghead Island with the Sunny Go).
According to Kol logic, whitebeard is the biggest fraud for getting staved by his crew and unable to protect Ace. Luffy is also a big fraud for losing to sanji and bigmom 10k crew. Imu and 5 gorosei are fraud too for letting sabo and wapol (a low tier character) to get away Downplaying Admirals is crazy. These mfs are forgetting how powerful they can be and just trying to spread their agenda
A few good men got help from Fujitora. KOL is the biggest coper of the century. Can't believe a man is reading One for years and years and still thinks Morley is Admiral level 😂
To debunk someone's agenda, you should know what thay agenda is. "A few good men" is that they broke in, achieved their goal, and escapes relatively unscathed even though there were admirals and cipher pol agents (and now we know gorosei) present. That still holds true even though they got a helping hand from an admiral.
Yo KOL, I got a quick take to add. During or at the start of the reverie, we see what looks like Shanks telling the 5 elders there's a certain pirate they need to talk about. I believe this man was one of gods knights and he is how the 5 elders get the information on the Nika fruit. I believe that the gods knights are the defacto leaders of Cipher Pol. I also think this is how CP9 was brought back in to the WG
My theory Lilly didn't get killed by Imu. The reason she doesn't go back to her Kingdom, is because she had some kind of mission left to her by Joy Boy /D clan, and she doesn't want to implicate the Kingdom. Get it destroyed, for nothing, because the final fight isn't happening for years and years. I think she was basically the first pirate post Void War and her crew eventually became the Amazons? Maybe even she was the first Queen of the Amazons? I could see her being friends with the original Poseidon, and Poseidon helped them establish the Amazon Lilly island, by stopping the Sea Kings. And that island would be the perfect place to stay away from the Government. Because until Vegapunk, they couldn't sail the Calm Belt easily. And, I could even see, her time as pirate, she was the original owner of the Straw Hat passed down through time, eventually ending up in Rogers hands. And the Hat is of course honoring her friend Joy Boy.
And what all do we know as of now about 800 years ago... the void century and now I wonder what the regular ponyglyphs say. I only thought the red ones were important, but it seems like the regular ones are way more significant
It’s like KoL completely disregarded and forgot that panel where the celestial dragons said they would execute the Admirals if any of them get hurt. And greenbull having a hard time fighting BECAUSE of the celestial dragons. Not Morely
So Haki isn’t being used why? Is GB sword just for show because our monster trio each alone could have knocked morale down with just one strong nameless attack with haki.
One cannot blame people for thinking that the Elders were not combatants, as they had no feats up to this point, and we have seen the "strength" of other celestial dragons like Saint Charlos
There is definitely a connection to planets somehow St Saturn, Nika is the sun and probably was supposed to be locked away or kept but eluded them. It seems the dots are connecting. The previous saga focused heavily on Zoans for a reason. More specifically mythical ones. Not to mention that Cp0s mission was to prevent that power from awakening. Maybe they know the potential an awakened mythical zoan has. They could all possess deity devil fruits that have awakened. After all Rob Gucci and Kaku are awakened themselves. Not to mention Kaidos fruit came from God Valley and Sengoku was a Buddha! The government has to have a stash of Mythical Zoans !
Okay, an assumption and a stretch real quick; 1) if Elders are fighters will this mean Zoro v Kizaru clash or fight? 2) Imu in page 1 or 2 said “so called void century” I believe,so here’s the stretch: what if we have been misnaming the Void Century when it was the Dream Century, or Century of Dreams?! May possibly tie into Devil Fruits being born of dreams??
Yoooo do any of you guys remember the old af game Zelda: Link's Awakening? The final boss of that game was a nightmare creature that could shift into different forms, always pitch-black figures with white eyes 0.0
There were so many clowns in the stream kept saying cope yet kol wasn’t even saying what everyone thought he was going to say lol y’all some real clowns
So the fishmen, the giants, alabasta, wano, zou, zunesha were all allies with joy boy, Holy shit every thing is connecting now Oda is really in the endgame now
Thank you for the feed back. My last point is. There only four cp0 members in the last panel. I know it’s a stretch. But like I said. He’s known to be trapped as a gag.
Does it matter? KOL's agenda is always about admiral and yonko. admiral is still fraud compare to Yonko. Before this chapter, we assumed fujitora got bandages from fighting revs, but this chapter implied the bandages is also result from fighting greenbull. Two admiral fighting and got bandages. Weak. Last time, we knew, the same admiral, the green one, peed his pants cause of wifi-haki from a red yonko
@@KmsMohd Yes it does lol 😂 Everybody thought specifically little Sabo fanboys that Sabo was fighting 2 Admirals at the same time and was putting them in bandages which is since the chapter is out not true 🤷🏻♂️ Actually Sabo feats are overrated asf he got bodied by that shadow arrow and was running away that’s it 🤣 main point is that Sabo isn’t beating Fujitora or Greenbull !!!!
@@KmsMohd And idk why you bring up the Yonko Vs Admiral debate lol everybody knows the Yonkos are stronger this is about Admirals Vs revolutionary 🤦🏻♂️🥴
@@g.g7427 sabo and a few good men is a meme, as a result of KOL's agenda about admiral vs yonko. Admiral fanboy, like brago, thought admiral strength is close to yonkou, but KOL's agenda is about proving admiral fanboy wrong regarding admiral strength. So one of the argument that KOL brought to the table (before this chapter) is "sabo and a few good men is enough for stopping 2 admiral, therefore admirals far below yonkou strength."
If endgame is imu and the gorosei vs luffy and his top fighters. I suspect chopper will play a bigger part. His devil fruit resembles the amanita muscaria making him not just a man but a shaman/medicine man. Meaning that when awakened he will be able to float/fly and perhaps call upon the machine elves/saint nicks little helpers that Terrence McKenna talked about. Chopper may be an ace up the sleeve of the straw hat crew.
Also it was stated Zoans tend to have wills of their own what if the Nika Nika fruit was one of the original Zoans along with the Goroseis and Imu. Ironically it would be a twist if the Devil fruits themselves were the final villain manifest from ancient times. We may just Actually see why they are Devil fruits.
The COPE is unreal! I guess he can't go back on his word now that he went as far as selling a few good men Merch. KOL's been riding around on that Fuji headband for months on end and now that it's confirmed he got it from Green Bull his agenda went downhill. And let me remind you, his agenda wasn't that "Sabo and a few good men are able to get the job done of rescuing Kuma" like he's trying to make it out to be here. His agenda was all strictly about powerscaling. And in the end nothing happened that would even imply that the admirals are as weak as the Commanders. KOL doesn't know the difference between a real battle and a skirmish which is why he keeps acting as if Morley is on par with Green Bull. They were clashing for a moment and that's it. He consciously chooses to ignore what Green Bull stated about how "It's IMPOSSIBLE to fight here" because he can't risk hurting the Celestial Dragons. He just says "yeah whatever". We now know that Sabo was pretty much not involved in fighting the admirals at all and yet he still hypes Sabo up to be top 3 for literally no reason. It was enough for him to see one single panel of Karasu and Morley fighting Green Bull and Fuji to say that "it's over", yet now that it was confirmed that the admirals who didn't have a single scratch on them ended up fighting each other, he goes full defense mode with his eyes closed. Just admit when you were wrong dude.
Lot of people lose their minds when it comes to agendas, I get it but damn. There is a plot, and characters being strong or weak have to bow down to said plot. We legit just watched a wheelchaired man in cobra eat multiple hits from Imu and stand up after because the plot demanded it and he needed to give more dialogue. Cobra>Kidd 😭
I swear on my life Oda made a rebalance of power , Rayleigh said One piece gives you a possible different individual conclusion on what it is . What if Imu got part of the Rogers crew on his side and Scopper Gaban is one of the god knights ????
What's actually funny is that people saying the Revolutionary army didn't do as good as KOL thought aren't realizing that they went into the most protected and important place of the Government, saved all the slaves, held off the Admirals, attacked the secret King of the world with all his royals guards and got away with their secrets.. This is an even bigger L for the WG 😂😂
The problem everyone is having is they are making this argument about power-scaling but then talk about the mission success. That has nothing to do with it. Admirals took a huge L as marines but clearly they are stronger than the rev captains so we can downplay the rev captain strength
@JaredLav precisely.. I think if they actually stopped and looked at it unbiased, they would see. For instance, even though Ace died. Did Luffy not get him out of the cuffs at Marineford? Luffy had tremendous help, but he did it It didn't mean he was stronger. He accomplished his mission. Ace died due to his own pride and emotional issues.
@@peterwatson3452 exactly, also I think powerscaling like this also gets in the way of appreciating Oda’s character writing. Ace died defending the honor of his chosen father after spending his entire childhood disrespecting the honor of his biological father. He also died being embraced and loved on a huge scale despite it being known who his actual father was when he was living the total opposite way as a kid with his real father being a secrete. It’s a wonderful completion of his character arc. Here we learn so much more about the admirals and rev captains as characters and it still speaks the physical power dynamics between everyone. Just focusing on that one part though forces agendas that take attention away from the character development surrounding the entire event
I think lily had laws fruit she made them all immortal than used power to move poneglyphs but since her room went around whole world it also killed her or something like that
Man, seems like Imu was in deep for Lili, but Lili didn't want that, didn't want world domination, and opted to act against Imu. Now scorned, Imu will do all it can to downplay Iili, gaslight her importance to history.
Cobra: "I'm afraid for my life, but I'm a One Piece character, so I should be fine."
Gorosei: "This is a flashback. You're not safe here."
Lmaooo
TRUE 😂
Who can blame Cobra? He was in the present day story when he entered the Reverie. He didn't know Oda will screw him over by telling the story the way he did
We learned that Cobra died a year ago ?? And people are still shocked 😂😂
@@unclephillymya if anyone is actually shocked its that Oda actually killed a character. Which im still not convinced. Cobra gonna be there on Vivis wedding day or some shit.
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KOL’s church service got targeted again by yt. So I rewrote all the times. Lemme know if it changes back and I will fix it
Bruh where’s the rest….da fuq
@@Jalen296I’m editing it
Thanks Mate
Thank you for your work
@@Jalen296 dont act like an ungrateful kid, he's not obligated to do this. You can ask nicely.
Wow cant believe wapol not only understood what he saw but also somehow escaped
Wapol Top 5 💪💪💪💪
the WG really screwed up
Wapol is corrupt enough to know what corruption is. He knew exactly what he saw and knew exactly what it meant for him that he saw it.
Bro Do you not think wapol is part of the criminal underworld?
It's a rule that some of the goofiest Devil Fruits for fighting have some of the best utility
Remember when everyone thought zoans were trash and now all the endgame niggas are awakened zoans.
I think the narrative people are trying to push is that Fujitora fighting Karasu wasn't a serious fight. Like all of Fujitora's attacks 'missed' and ended up freeing slaves instead. Greenbull notices this, gets pissed, and goes to confront Fujitora about it. While they start to argue / fight the Revolutionaries get the fuck out of there.
In that context the revolutionaries are a lot less impressive, and Fujitora's help becomes a lot more significant. It also kind of makes a lot more sense than Fujitora just randomly freeing slaves after the fight. It fits much more with his Dressrosa behaviour if he just 'accidentally' freed slaves while 'fighting' Karasu.
Fujitora and a few good men 😂
Okay but they was stuck on two men. And that’s two Admirals were talking about. How you gonna be an Admiral but only be impressive with your Devil Fruit and not Haki? 🤔🧐
@@PKLO9727 They were holding back their power in Devil fruit and Haki !!!!!
@@PKLO9727 also, its implied the only reason morley was able to get to kuma is because fujitora and greenbull fought eachother instead of the revolutionaries.
@@g.g7427 tell me why greenbull didn't just tentacle pierce Morley who is such a big taget if he was a master of his df and haki.
@@MrArkRaptor because it would ruined it .
I have a thought that Toki and Lili met up on Wano. They used Posideon in some way, which rose Wano above sea level, causing the Ponyglyphs to scatter across the world. Over the course of 800 years the blue ponyglyphs wondered further from the New World, but the Red ones stayed on the NW half. Which would make sense because history repeats itself, and hence why Vivi and Shirohoshi are bonded together by Luffy. Vivi unaware Shirohoshi is Poseiden and Vivi being a descendant of a D. The D. clan all seem to intertwine to cause a ruckus for Imu and their party
An Ink Devil Fruit cold be insanely OP if Oda decided it had some kind of "meta" powers, given how the manga is drawn in ink, maybe it would grant the user the ability to change and create things at will by "adding ink to the pages which make up their reality".
i mean, imu crosses an island with ink, say it never existed and suddendly the island explode, sooo it is definetely a possibility
@JRRR92 every devil fruit has an upgraded version tho
@jrrr9219of course i know that duh, mine was a semplification of what happened, imu crosses an island on a map with ink and than energy rain down from the sky destroyng the island
@@mugiwara_k9283- I think this is a upgraded version of the darkness fruit something like the void-void fruit and possibly the polar opposite of Luffy DF.
like ichibei from bleach
People calling Revs frauds as if the admirals couldn't injure them without having to rely on their DFs. Haki>DFs. Greenbull so trash he carries a sword that he doesn't even use in the one situation where his DF is useless lmfao
😂😂😂 thats funny af tbh i didnt even think ab GBs sword
I know it may sound stupid af, but there is a small chance that his sword is black, he wears it without sheet so i highly doubt its just for design purposes
The rev captains still needed help from Fujitora even though Greenbull was holding back.
Sabo and a few good letdowns. Hopefully Dragon doesn't dissappoint.💀💀
@@JACKAGLAW "needed help" 💀They were doing fine when we saw them
@@leleo2219 so where they doing before Fuji help slave escape?
I think there is more to the flashback where ace gives sabo the D. Initial in his name. What if anyone can be a member of the D clan. What if the D clan are not bound by blood but by an idea or a promise, the idea to one day bring "Dawn" to the world. It also can be infered when queen Lily signed her name with the D. Initial that she declared herself a member of those who oppose the WG, it appears the D may also stand for those who oppose the WG. This makes perfect sense considering you can't kill an idea, just what whitebeard said in his final speech about the D. Individuals "Even if you extinguish their bloodline, there's no way that their flame will ever burn out".
Bruv, you literally wrote the same comment under every single one piece reviewer. Take a chill pill
@@izientertainment9349 he brings great point, saw many glossed over it
Man's spitting straight 🔥
@77-7- Yeah, but every one piece reviewer that I watched the video off, his comment was always there.
@@izientertainment9349 for good reason.. im not tellin u twice
😂 KOL has the reading comprehension of a 3 year old I guess this is the case if you have an agenda in mind. Greenbull being intimidated by shanks dosen’t necessarily 100 percent mean shanks>greenbull the reason being is because of shanks having his crew to intimidate greenbull with how do I know? The narrative implies this with greenbull stating “the red hair pirates?!?!” Or “I get it already I don’t want to fight with you guys” also right after the prior statement I’ve shown he says “or for now atleast” meaning if he wasn’t provided with such a disadvantage he will be ready to fight shanks head on. Now you may ask who in one piece has been intimated while being stronger than the intimidator. An example of this is Rayleigh intimidating black beard to disengage him and despite this Raleigh himself states he most likely would lose against black beard 1 on 1. This argument that people keep providing over and over again is literally so flawed especially in the world of one piece.
And why is he ignoring the world balance with the goresei being afraid of yonko meet ups. yonko forming an alliance will cause a massive diss balance due to the fact that 2 yonko can defeat another yonko and gain access to the poneglyph that the yonko whom was defeated has. this will bring them closer to the one piece since a single yonko has acess to more poneglyph the reason the yonko can’t become pirate king is due to the fact all of them are holding their own poneglyph’s and are stopping each other from achieving it that’s what’s keeping world balance.
We all know Shanks is stronger than Greenbull stop trying so hard LMFAO why would Oda make a random admiral stronger than Shanks does not make any sense. Hop off their D son
KOL, just for a minute, take another good look at the panel where Cobra is initially attacked. He was looking up at Imu while the attack came from his back left side. The Gorusai were the ones surrounding him, so it had to have been one of the two Gorusai on his left.
That doesn’t really make sense when the Gorosei pulled out guns and a sword to kill Cobra. Why pull out those weapons if they were gonna use a DF ability anyways?
@@nicporcelliYou’re both right so I don’t know what to think.
It obviously can't be the gorosei because they wouldn't be the first one to make a move. Imu is in charge, they would only attack if he/she gives the order
Cobra was killed immediately after he revealed the D in Lilis name so it was clearly imu. The gorosei wouldn't kill cobra whilst Imu is still talking to him
@@Kurodo222 you don't know how it works yet, so that opinion doesn't work.
@@Kurodo222the arrow that pieces is literally one of the goroseis tails. You can see it in the gorosei reveal panel.
lmao the fact that kol cant accept that the admirals stopped themselves here all the while saying everyone else is doing mental gymnastics is the real crazy thing here lmao
KOL has Usopp's stubbornness when it comes to accepting facts lol
we didnt read the same chapter I love fing with king as much as the next guy. but the rev punked the admirals especially green bull.
@@tenaciousgamer6892 yes we didn't read the same thing coz you read two pieces 😭
@@Kenzo411able bro you admiral fanboys are rtarded lmao hows infighting a W wtf XD
@@rochekalifa2074 It's a win with regard to their strength.
The Revs were unable to damage the Admirals with anything lasting. Morley got some limbs, but Greenbull seemed unphased while Morley in that panel was scuffed up (though next chapter those scuffs are gone when Morley saves Kuma). The only time we see the admirals scuffed up was from in-fighting.
Additionally, Jyabura's statement implies Fujitora did more than one thing that contributed to the Revolutionaries being able to free the slaves. Meaning of the Revolutonaries' 3 objectives, Fujitora actions were a notable contribution to their success on what would have been the hardest one to complete.
In terms of publicity and objectives, the World Government and Marines took a total loss. The Revolutionaries did everything they wanted and got out without casualties.
The Admirals as individuals appear to have had differing goals from one another. Greenbull is certianly on the losing side as his beliefs and actions are in line with the WG's objectives. He wasn't hung so despite Morley's size and terrain shifting powers, he managed to prevent the Celestial Dragons from being damaged while being undamaged himself until he fought Fujitora.
Fujitora seems to have wanted to help the Slaves as he took actions that ensured they were freed from the hold of the Celestial Dragons. We can reasonably assume they were deliberate actions as Fujitora did enough for Greenbull to notice and choose to fight Fujitora over pursuing/continuing to fight the Revolutionaries.
The fact that only ONE of the Gorosei has a fruit with a cloud scarf and their *ALL RELATIVE IN POWER?* Nah, endgame's about to be _WICKED!_
i thought i saw more scarf things
at least two, the "alian" and the "bird" right?
@@MrLovolovo yea they seem to have them too if not the bird def the other one
Wait, Rocks was erase from history cuz he broke all the most insane taboos, what if he actually saw and fought against Imu Directly at God Valley
Wait a minute, I actually like this idea. Rocks was probably insane so breaking taboos I wouldn't put past him lol and if imu tried to fight him?
Rocks: Ight, bet😈
Who knew Wapol would become relevant in 2023 and be the one to rescue Vivi
It's sure not a Shadow but a tail right lol
The lore in this chapter was insane
Fujitora not giving a fuck about freeing slaves from the government, Akainu is gonna be pissed
Well, we already saw them having a chat after the matter. So I guess they're good, relatively speaking. Remember we're in a flashback that happened over a month ago.
And he's still fucked 😂
At this point everyone connected to each other in the story in the past are coming back to form the most unlikely alliances/relationships.
There are a few points I'd like to mention:
1. The Admirals are in the top 3 strongest forces of the government thus far. We've seen the Gorosei and Imu, we've seen the Admirals and we're yet to see the Holy Knights.
2. I bet that the shadows we saw in the Florian Triangle were the Gorosei.
3. What if Imu and the Gorosei have a third kind of power that's not Devil Fruits or Haki?
Weird thought but IMU appears to be able to eat fire. Was he the reason why the Lunarians are gone? Because he can eat their fire / immune to it
really cool idea!
BRO SHE’S A SHADOW
SABO FOUGH A SHADOW
WE DIDN’T SEE NOTHING
And here I thought IMU had the water fruit, bc come on final boss must have such broken busted op devil fruit.
Or they just blocked it
Shoot, I bet he can eat any element
Holy fuck, I miss your edited reactions so much. The best content your channel had to offer regarding one piece
This is why we need Kol and brago streams. KOL has to have someone talking to him live or else he copes hard and doesnt even understand the arguments. "Rando slaves" nobody is saying those slaves are more important than kuma bro. You missing the entire point of people bringing up the fact that fujitora helped just because the slaves are random people!?!?
Fujitora is a revolutionary i hope
Admiral stans gassing admirals by trying to downplay everything they're in is nuts bro, the better you make the admirals looks here the better the revs look for it, there's no way around it-- who cares? The point is that regardless of what happened, like 5 mid tier characters went into mariejois, with gorosei, admirals, and god knights present, and not a one of them was captured. If that's because the opps didn't try, then how does that make them look good? The admirals not being able to get one small fodder captured because of infighting and disloyalty looks fucking awful on their part bro they're incompetent enough to let this happen as an organization.
@orom6581 "the better you make the admirals look here the better the revs look" uh not if an admiral is literally helping them by freeing slaves and holding off another admiral💀 you cant just be like "regardless of what happened". Context matters. We all know this and have talked about it 1000 times in regards to the worlds perception of luffy. You only choose to say context doesnt matter when it fits your agenda. "Looks awful on their part" it looks awful on their part as marines but not as fighters. Nobody is saying they did their job well. We're talking scaling buddy. You keeep combining the ultimate goal from their job with scaling. Those are two diff things. Because if fujitora is freeing slaves and holding off greenbull he doesnt gaf about letting the revs escape therefore sure you can call him ass in a job perspective but not scaling...context.
@@orom6581 The revs definitely were going in hard on utility AND they used the terrain to their advantage basically a hostage situation, the admirals needed years of built up differing views of justice to disloyalty and retarded slave rulers that are all gathered up not wanting to get killed or get them executed to even get this to happen, so both sides turn out not looking that bad. CPO the ones looking incompetent in all of this tbh.
lmao brago is coping like a mad man how is this not a huge L for marines you fanboys are insane if you think otherwise wtf
Man I still get hyped for your sermons keep killing it KOL san o7
As far as I'm concerned both the admirals and the revs look good. The revs accomplished what they set out to do and the admirals were only damaged by each other.
Faxs this is the comment
Not Really, According to that "Ladyhero" comment:
The Admirals "in-fighting" only made the Revs victory accomplishing their objectives more embarrassing then anything.
And Revs took no Damage either
the revs are tactical. They got what they wanted because of luck and tactics. Only Dragon is strong in the revolutionary army. Dragon is the arch enemy of Akainu
Yeah in terms of power scaling the admirals only got hurt by each other lol it destroys the Sabo beat 2 admirals agenda 😂
@@thetruth997_ still confused how people act like sabotage was alone lol
Zunesha was ordered to scattered them around the wold...IMU cursed it to walk the earth endlessly..they have the same eyes.
Why does Chopper can block Big Mom’s attack, but a few good man stall admirals for a short period? I think a few good men are still clean but respect the admirals. W on Fuji for playing on our side tho 😂
How do we know that wifi haki isn't what made kaido tuck his tail and scurry away from marineford
Definitely a W for Fuji. Best admiral so far if we're talking about moral.
If we are talking about KOL agenda. The agenda is always about admiral and yonko. This chapter make fujitora take an L. Last time we knew he got bandages. So this chapter implied the bandages is a result from fighting greenbull. Remember, This is the same greenbull who peed his pants from a wifi haki from a red yonko
@@KmsMohd Fujitora didn’t got the bandages from the revolutionary commanders which definitely makes him look better so he didn’t took a L 😂😂 🥱🥱 !!
@@g.g7427 no. It does make fujitora look bad, if we are talking about KOL's agenda (admiral strength far below yonkou stregnth agenda) . He got bandages from fighting greenbull. Greenbul is another admiral who peed his pants from wifi-haki. It surely make fuji look bad. Thus he took an L, if we are talking about admiral vs yonko agenda
@@KmsMohd I myself know that Admirals are under Yonkos lol
My problem are the Sabo fanboys who thought he took 2 Admirals at the same time which he obviously didn’t and also didn’t hurt them !!!
I could see Imu with the Nightmare fruit and he can manipulate reality. Luffy is bringing the dawn, which is when you wake up. Dreams are a big part of the story, the opposite of a dream is a nightmare. Both Luffy and Imu would be bending reality in different ways during the finale fight, which Oda would love to draw. Imu might've changed the gorosei into monsters to save them taking Sabo's attack.
Nightmares vs. Liberation 🤔I like that
i love kol reactions but this guy is reading a whole different story lmao his ass pulls are wild. down playing a few good men? if a random character even looks at a admiral for a second and lives, kol over here thinking thats a admiral L.
the story straight up said the admirals couldnt fight back because of the celestials that were around
Bruh that would literally be insane imu and the 5 elders are basically the story "where the wild things are "
The kid being the king to 5 monsters bruh it Makes sense 😂
Every week people have theories of "oh this thing is this exact other thing" but they never turn out true. Oda may take inspiration but the final products are always original to Oda
The big mustache gorosei is going to look goofy af, I know it. LOL
I think this now confirms that the 20th weapon that wasn't placed at the foot of the throne wasn't Lili's but rather Imu's weapon. Because why would he/she swear to themself. They just used the Nefataris as an excuse as to why one is missing.
My head canon: Shanks might be Imu's kid. Why else would the Gorosei say that "You're only allowed in here because its you." I think Roger discovered his lineage through the truth on Laugh Tale and thats why he was crying. And I think Gryphon is the sword Imu didn't put at the throne.
Let him cook🔥
Chef Ramsey this you? Cause shiet you cooking a meal
Holy
So you think Shanks gave his sword back to Imu to play with while he talked with the gorosei😂😂😂
@@jay7166 I'm just thinking out loud. Either way, the sword that we see in Imu's garden that everyone is assuming is his/hers look a lot like Shanks sword. The guard and the hilt look the same.
Me: reading the chapter within 5 minutes
KoL: 3 hours later...
Imu gives me huge Anti-Spiral vibes. I'm going to bet Imu is one dude that ate or somehow merged with the rest of the other kings.
Yo this makes shanks even more suspect lowkey
Yea and most don't realize that
How?
@@cheshirewise942 +1
@@cheshirewise942 because why would the goresei be scared or respect shanks when we see that these guys are obviously up there in strength and have some crazy dfs. like is shanks making dealss with the devil???
There's no way Fujitora is still an Admiral after this. I know Akainu and Aokiji had an intense battle for Fleet Position, but Akainu needs to fight Fujitora!
We already saw the aftermath. The only thing Akainu did was criticize both of them for not defeating a few good men.
He probably is still a admiral unless pink rabbit or brown pig are still around and willing to take the job. Even though they’re canon OC’s
He and akainu talked like nothing happened after the reverie (chapter 957)
@@redragon88 turns out Fujitora was the good man afterall 😂
Damn kol really reads at anime pacing
KoL coping so that his merch keeps on selling.
This is an INSANE chapter tbh. We still don’t know if the 5 Elders are Admiral Level yet but at least it’s confirmed that they aren’t just figure heads for Imu and the WG. Imu must be the Yonko Fighter of the WG.
And ayo, Luffy is about to fight one of those Elders in a second too 👀. I feel like the only other person who have knocked one of them over is Roger and Rayleigh. After seeing this Chapter, if Luffy knocks that Elder out it’s going to be MAJOR. More Major than him beating Kizaru. Shiiiii… Oda might make Luffy send both of them flying… (maybe not fully knocked out but enough to let them all leave Egghead Island with the Sunny Go).
I think two of the 5 elders have ancient zoans and the rest including imu have mythical types
Watch Saturn son the fuck out of Luffy. LOL
Narratively they have to be. Because nothing below Admiral is threatening the Strawhats right now.
Rocks probably killed one of them, hence why one of the five is the yongest and when transformed to his df form looks smaller than the other ones
Nah, Imu is levels above Yonko
According to Kol logic, whitebeard is the biggest fraud for getting staved by his crew and unable to protect Ace.
Luffy is also a big fraud for losing to sanji and bigmom 10k crew.
Imu and 5 gorosei are fraud too for letting sabo and wapol (a low tier character) to get away
Downplaying Admirals is crazy. These mfs are forgetting how powerful they can be and just trying to spread their agenda
King has some absolute buffoons in his chat, trying gaslight him with a few good men
The hog looking gorosei may be Mythical zoan Hog Hog fruit model type Pumba
This chapter kinda explains Fuji wasn't trying to stop them. He actually aided them. That's how ur few good men got out clean .
The downplay on sabo and the revs is crazy, yall the same type of people who would say oden was 1 tapped bc he was tricked
Lili had the OP OP no MI and knew she would be forced to make IMU have the eternal youth thing.
Everybody's top 30 lists just added 6 spots😂😂
A few good men got help from Fujitora. KOL is the biggest coper of the century. Can't believe a man is reading One for years and years and still thinks Morley is Admiral level 😂
To debunk someone's agenda, you should know what thay agenda is. "A few good men" is that they broke in, achieved their goal, and escapes relatively unscathed even though there were admirals and cipher pol agents (and now we know gorosei) present. That still holds true even though they got a helping hand from an admiral.
Yo KOL, I got a quick take to add. During or at the start of the reverie, we see what looks like Shanks telling the 5 elders there's a certain pirate they need to talk about. I believe this man was one of gods knights and he is how the 5 elders get the information on the Nika fruit. I believe that the gods knights are the defacto leaders of Cipher Pol. I also think this is how CP9 was brought back in to the WG
My theory Lilly didn't get killed by Imu. The reason she doesn't go back to her Kingdom, is because she had some kind of mission left to her by Joy Boy /D clan, and she doesn't want to implicate the Kingdom. Get it destroyed, for nothing, because the final fight isn't happening for years and years.
I think she was basically the first pirate post Void War and her crew eventually became the Amazons? Maybe even she was the first Queen of the Amazons?
I could see her being friends with the original Poseidon, and Poseidon helped them establish the Amazon Lilly island, by stopping the Sea Kings. And that island would be the perfect place to stay away from the Government.
Because until Vegapunk, they couldn't sail the Calm Belt easily.
And, I could even see, her time as pirate, she was the original owner of the Straw Hat passed down through time, eventually ending up in Rogers hands. And the Hat is of course honoring her friend Joy Boy.
Shakky was confirmed to be the first queen of Amazon lily
@@Welle-xw6kp Lol, what? No she wasn't. She's the former ruler of Amazon Lily, not the first.
You can definitely see it clearer today, but there are 5 shadowy figures and one extra large shadowy figure above the other 5, that being Imu.
Awesome reaction vid, this chapter open the floodgates of what the final war arc is going to look like.
Someone gave Oda a shot of that Henny hen hen 😂
What if Blackbeard's Darkness devil fruit is the lower tier fruit and Imu has the higher tier fruit?
👍
Bro, you slaughter the pronunciation of Kumadori's name so bad, every time, I continuously have to remember who you're even talking about🤣
And what all do we know as of now about 800 years ago... the void century and now I wonder what the regular ponyglyphs say. I only thought the red ones were important, but it seems like the regular ones are way more significant
Vivi probably had the help of Poseidon and the sea kings to move the poneglyphs
It’s like KoL completely disregarded and forgot that panel where the celestial dragons said they would execute the Admirals if any of them get hurt. And greenbull having a hard time fighting BECAUSE of the celestial dragons. Not Morely
Agendas over facts lol
Cope! hahaha
So Haki isn’t being used why? Is GB sword just for show because our monster trio each alone could have knocked morale down with just one strong nameless attack with haki.
@@justynhill4814
Cringe
@@thetruth997_-facts
When Luffy walks into that room with the strawhat on..im going to lose it
My moneys on Zoro making it to that room first completely on accident lmao
@@awesomeavis7861 i hate you lololol i agree lol
One cannot blame people for thinking that the Elders were not combatants, as they had no feats up to this point, and we have seen the "strength" of other celestial dragons like Saint Charlos
There is definitely a connection to planets somehow St Saturn, Nika is the sun and probably was supposed to be locked away or kept but eluded them. It seems the dots are connecting. The previous saga focused heavily on Zoans for a reason. More specifically mythical ones. Not to mention that Cp0s mission was to prevent that power from awakening. Maybe they know the potential an awakened mythical zoan has. They could all possess deity devil fruits that have awakened. After all Rob Gucci and Kaku are awakened themselves. Not to mention Kaidos fruit came from God Valley and Sengoku was a Buddha! The government has to have a stash of Mythical Zoans !
Okay, an assumption and a stretch real quick; 1) if Elders are fighters will this mean Zoro v Kizaru clash or fight? 2) Imu in page 1 or 2 said “so called void century” I believe,so here’s the stretch: what if we have been misnaming the Void Century when it was the Dream Century, or Century of Dreams?! May possibly tie into Devil Fruits being born of dreams??
Sabo saying the monsters that exist utop the kings and queens of the earth is what edward bernays meant by the rulers of the inner cabinet.
Yoooo do any of you guys remember the old af game Zelda: Link's Awakening? The final boss of that game was a nightmare creature that could shift into different forms, always pitch-black figures with white eyes 0.0
Sabo said fuck it i am ending one piece right now 😂😂😂
it's pretty obvious that present "Imu" isn't the one from 800 years ago judging by the dialog (them refusing to elaborate on Cobra's observation)
I would disagree. The way they talk about Lili sounds personal, so I assume they were around 800 years ago.
Not at all
Lol, you mean the same way it was obvious that Imu is Lily? Why would they refuse to elaborate if it wasn't them?
It's not sweat king it's a tear
Nah, if Imu's devil fruit is THE devil-devil fruit, I'm leaving
Yo it might be
I can't believe no one has figured out that Fujitora is a member of the revolutionary army
I'm with you on this
There were so many clowns in the stream kept saying cope yet kol wasn’t even saying what everyone thought he was going to say lol y’all some real clowns
So the fishmen, the giants, alabasta, wano, zou, zunesha were all allies with joy boy,
Holy shit every thing is connecting now
Oda is really in the endgame now
Thank you for the feed back. My last point is. There only four cp0 members in the last panel. I know it’s a stretch. But like I said. He’s known to be trapped as a gag.
Just because he's not in the panel doesn't mean he's not there. Oda probably decided it's not important to draw all of them or something.
D does not refer to a kingdom but a group of people who defied the 20 kings and wanted freeDom.
Imu's arrow is the direction to find Gol D. Ace.
Hito hito no mi Model: Moon Devil Iblis
Iblis has 5 children
Islamic reference
fyi thats more closer to a myth, because we dont really care about things that too specific such as 5 named child of iblis(basically satan)
@@bmuhammadthariqhumaid4670 im talking about one piece
@@pugi9847 yeah, thats why i add "fyi"
@@bmuhammadthariqhumaid4670 ofc.its a myth, there's no such things as devils.
When KOL realized the few good man including Sabo are frauds 🥱 1:32:04 !!
Does it matter? KOL's agenda is always about admiral and yonko. admiral is still fraud compare to Yonko. Before this chapter, we assumed fujitora got bandages from fighting revs, but this chapter implied the bandages is also result from fighting greenbull. Two admiral fighting and got bandages. Weak. Last time, we knew, the same admiral, the green one, peed his pants cause of wifi-haki from a red yonko
@@KmsMohd Yes it does lol 😂 Everybody thought specifically little Sabo fanboys that Sabo was fighting 2 Admirals at the same time and was putting them in bandages which is since the chapter is out not true 🤷🏻♂️
Actually Sabo feats are overrated asf he got bodied by that shadow arrow and was running away that’s it 🤣 main point is that Sabo isn’t beating Fujitora or Greenbull !!!!
@@KmsMohd And idk why you bring up the Yonko Vs Admiral debate lol everybody knows the Yonkos are stronger this is about Admirals Vs revolutionary 🤦🏻♂️🥴
Frauds how
@@g.g7427 sabo and a few good men is a meme, as a result of KOL's agenda about admiral vs yonko. Admiral fanboy, like brago, thought admiral strength is close to yonkou, but KOL's agenda is about proving admiral fanboy wrong regarding admiral strength. So one of the argument that KOL brought to the table (before this chapter) is "sabo and a few good men is enough for stopping 2 admiral, therefore admirals far below yonkou strength."
I'm gonna call it. Fujitora freed slaves on purpose
King cobra was saying what queen lili wrote in the letter to protect the poneglyphs
Nooo way a Arabian knight!!! 😂 I forgot about that!!! Bring that back y’all
If endgame is imu and the gorosei vs luffy and his top fighters. I suspect chopper will play a bigger part. His devil fruit resembles the amanita muscaria making him not just a man but a shaman/medicine man. Meaning that when awakened he will be able to float/fly and perhaps call upon the machine elves/saint nicks little helpers that Terrence McKenna talked about. Chopper may be an ace up the sleeve of the straw hat crew.
Imu is the embodiment of the black pearl.
RIP to the "Few good men" agenda
It was fun while it lasted
Also it was stated Zoans tend to have wills of their own what if the Nika Nika fruit was one of the original Zoans along with the Goroseis and Imu. Ironically it would be a twist if the Devil fruits themselves were the final villain manifest from ancient times. We may just Actually see why they are Devil fruits.
I can't wait to see Khans reaction. His room is going to be destroyed
The COPE is unreal! I guess he can't go back on his word now that he went as far as selling a few good men Merch. KOL's been riding around on that Fuji headband for months on end and now that it's confirmed he got it from Green Bull his agenda went downhill. And let me remind you, his agenda wasn't that "Sabo and a few good men are able to get the job done of rescuing Kuma" like he's trying to make it out to be here. His agenda was all strictly about powerscaling. And in the end nothing happened that would even imply that the admirals are as weak as the Commanders. KOL doesn't know the difference between a real battle and a skirmish which is why he keeps acting as if Morley is on par with Green Bull. They were clashing for a moment and that's it. He consciously chooses to ignore what Green Bull stated about how "It's IMPOSSIBLE to fight here" because he can't risk hurting the Celestial Dragons. He just says "yeah whatever". We now know that Sabo was pretty much not involved in fighting the admirals at all and yet he still hypes Sabo up to be top 3 for literally no reason. It was enough for him to see one single panel of Karasu and Morley fighting Green Bull and Fuji to say that "it's over", yet now that it was confirmed that the admirals who didn't have a single scratch on them ended up fighting each other, he goes full defense mode with his eyes closed. Just admit when you were wrong dude.
What if the D clans were the original 20 royals that were deposed by the World Nobles?
When he is rambling about Elbaf, doesn't that give Loki vibes? I seem to remember Loki being given that dark shading at some point.
agenda piece from last year cropping up i love it
People yelling Dark Matter Fruit in the chat LOL xD
Holly shit there was so much to cook. What a hot discussion.
Lot of people lose their minds when it comes to agendas, I get it but damn. There is a plot, and characters being strong or weak have to bow down to said plot. We legit just watched a wheelchaired man in cobra eat multiple hits from Imu and stand up after because the plot demanded it and he needed to give more dialogue. Cobra>Kidd 😭
Imu was able to stab Sabo, haki, possibly Conq confirmed; just a nice detail
We want Brago and Kol to finally settle these debate
Nah i dont like admirals
BUT BRAGO TOOK AN EASTY DUB HERE
I couldn't be there for the live reaction but looking forward to watch a SWEATY reaction later
God this was a hard watch
I swear on my life Oda made a rebalance of power , Rayleigh said One piece gives you a possible different individual conclusion on what it is . What if Imu got part of the Rogers crew on his side and Scopper Gaban is one of the god knights ????
I got the Idea that Imu might be Joy Boy and Lili might be Zuneshia. Since it is mentioned that Zuneshia made a grave mistake.
So she got some devil fruit then
@@maharghjoshi228 It's now confirmed that Imu was a king and therefore, male in chapter 1086.
Hold on that shadow figure we all saw at egg head video surveillance was that saturn or still one of the vega punks clones?
Everyone sleeping on the fact that there's a parallel to every devil fruit I believe imus power parallels vega punks
What's actually funny is that people saying the Revolutionary army didn't do as good as KOL thought aren't realizing that they went into the most protected and important place of the Government, saved all the slaves, held off the Admirals, attacked the secret King of the world with all his royals guards and got away with their secrets.. This is an even bigger L for the WG 😂😂
The problem everyone is having is they are making this argument about power-scaling but then talk about the mission success. That has nothing to do with it. Admirals took a huge L as marines but clearly they are stronger than the rev captains so we can downplay the rev captain strength
@JaredLav precisely.. I think if they actually stopped and looked at it unbiased, they would see. For instance, even though Ace died. Did Luffy not get him out of the cuffs at Marineford? Luffy had tremendous help, but he did it
It didn't mean he was stronger. He accomplished his mission. Ace died due to his own pride and emotional issues.
@@peterwatson3452 exactly, also I think powerscaling like this also gets in the way of appreciating Oda’s character writing. Ace died defending the honor of his chosen father after spending his entire childhood disrespecting the honor of his biological father. He also died being embraced and loved on a huge scale despite it being known who his actual father was when he was living the total opposite way as a kid with his real father being a secrete. It’s a wonderful completion of his character arc.
Here we learn so much more about the admirals and rev captains as characters and it still speaks the physical power dynamics between everyone. Just focusing on that one part though forces agendas that take attention away from the character development surrounding the entire event
I think lily had laws fruit she made them all immortal than used power to move poneglyphs but since her room went around whole world it also killed her or something like that
This mustve been so painful to watch live
Man, seems like Imu was in deep for Lili, but Lili didn't want that, didn't want world domination, and opted to act against Imu. Now scorned, Imu will do all it can to downplay Iili, gaslight her importance to history.