The Institute of Traditional Asian Martial Arts celebrated its 14th Anniversary Saturday, October 20th. Here is a demonstration of Bangai no Bu and Morote Hayanuki.
I would like to say that this dojo is Beautiful, and I really enjoyed watching this form! and for those who have something negative to say,well jealousy is the root of all evil. You must be at peace with yourself you will do nothing but make others work harder to be better than they already are. Just remember that God don't like ugly! ~Great Video! ~Soke Steve Hatfield 9th Dan
I was taught iaido from my kendo sensei a long time ago. He never said anything about the name of the style. Now I see it here. Thank you for letting me see your video. I learned a little of Eishin Ryu iaido. Thank you for letting me know the name of my iaido style.
Amazing vid...he is very skilled and a pleasure to watch...it gives all of us who follow on the path of Bushido, something to aspire to. BTW...24 years of Shotokan and 16 of Eishin Ryu in dedicated study.
I'm a beginner with only 2.5 years of experience from different school (I believe with the same origin though), but I saw beauty in your Enbu. Very difined movements. I enjoyed watching this. Thank you. Yuko, Musoshinden Ryu
I enjoyed watching this and I also enjoy knowing and training with Holland Sensei. Could some of the critics/masters who left comments on this video please provide the links to your demonstrations? I would like to learn from your visual excellence and not just your verbal excellence.
If I may, I would like to correct your comment regarding cutting. Dropping the kisaki down the back is not wrong and is an acceptable style, but it depends on your teachers. MJER do this. MSR don't. But some MJER don't, just depends. Older styles tend to drop it. In seitei, below horizontal is a no no. Cutting below horizontal again depends on what you are doing. Seitei doesn't on standing forms, and only slightly on seated. Koryu forms vary, but the cuts are generally below horizontal in MJER.
MJER does have a bigger swing but the way I'm taught you're not supposed to bring the sword back that far. I've been told that at least in MJER the sword isn't supposed to drop back more than horizontal.
@bassistoftheyear all kata have a chiburi...reguardless of blood or not. Remember these kata's are and were used for attacks....so to practice Chiburi with the kata is needed.
@xenadon Which cut do you mean? ('tip drop that low'). I've not studied them all to check, but you're certainly meant to make an overhead cut go below parallel (kissaki usually around knee level at the end). You mean he went even lower, right? -- not that it's not parallel, which is the style in Zen Nhon Kendo Renmei (Seitei) Iai and Muso Shinden Ryu.
@shinken12 Yeah Komei Juku is what I do (not much lately but once upon a time), seems there are a few little differences but I am by no means in any position to judge if they are or if I am just doing it wrong.
now I have just noticed that when you do your vertical slash you bring the Blade parallel to your back, I am not sure if that is the style in which you learned it but I do know some dojos consider it an error so I just want you to know it.
This is by means meant to criticize, it is merely an observation I've noted. Every time I see him going for the shomen, my brain starts yelling, "You're drawing the sword too far back!" because this is what I learn in Aikido. Drawing the sword all the way back behind the head may load the strike with more power, but it leaves one very, very open and that seems counter intuitive to the principle of quickly neutralizing a threat that, IIRC, is the basis behind many of Iai's techniques. Yes?
@xenadon I guess it depends on the style, I was recently at an Iwama Aikido style seminar and the Sensei was telling us that Saito used to say that the strike came from the spine just like what this guy is doing.
Good observation. Aikido tachi is different from kenjutsu, the stance and the blending, and the receiving, and O Sensei intended this. Look at how many more jo techniques there are - this comes down to there being far more spear battlefield techniques than sword from the lines. All sword moves are in the jo kata anyway, as are naginata and yari. Look at how many tachi dori and jo dori are at the pause points. Shiho nage is iai, so is yonkyo.
I like his walking in Bangai gata, interesting pacing. I am curious as to why his noto looks more like Muso Shinden Ryu than MJER. Which branch of MJER is this being shown?
@ScoutSniper127 i am pretty sure it is meant for all ages. i am 14 and my sister is 11 and we are doing this style and one of the other students is in his 30s
@deosullivan3 Not really. You can watch a video of Ishigaki sensei (from Hokkaido) or of the Soke (Ikeda Takeshi), and it's a bit different. They seem to have it pointing a little more forward in the inbetween stage. My impression is that this threatens to stab the opponent if they approach, and is also in position for a parry. Hope that seems intelligible; makes sense to me :-p
Iaido is an entirely non-competitive martial art. It is not grounded on actual sword-fighting. It is simply Kata or forms. It's actually a very fascinating art to watch, even in practice sessions because there is a level of intensity and focus that is rare to see in other arts.
It's true that it does depend on the style. For instance, Hokyuryu (I hope I'm spelling that right) has much smaller looking cuts when compared with MJER. The thing is in MJER, which is what this guy is doing, you're not supposed to let the tip drop that low.
I am a 4th dan in Eshin-Ryu Iaido, and this looks fine to me. I would love to find a dojo near me to practice. Due to the ceilings in my apartment, I can't really use my iaito inside.
May I inquire as to which line of Eishin Ryu this is? VERY similar to ours but with SLIGHT differences. Also nice Bangai but I don't know how happy a Japanese sensei would be with you committing the Bangai wazas to film and the Internet, after all they are our most oku of oku techniques. Ganbatte!
How come you have that sound while cutting? Do you have grove/ Bo-hi in your blade? In our school we were always taught not to use blades with Bo-hi since if you do get a "singing" sound anyways you know the cut was not done right. with Bo-hi you always got a sound no matter what. What's your view on this topic? Also I like your directness, very efficient.
I'm not a MJER student so I can't comment on stylistic differences. His swings are smooth and fairly precise, but there seems to be a lack of zanshin between execution and between kata. Jo-ha-kyu is fairly absent from nukitsuke to noto, but it may be because I don't understand MJER style at all. Visually it looks impressive, but it also looks a bit robotic, rushed, and meant to please audiences more than demonstrate spirit.
@mikeymarshful It might have been Eishin Ryu (i.e. Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu), but if it's kendo, most kendo practitioners learn 'seitei iai' (a small set of key techniques), and if they go on to learn a traditional style (a 'koryu') after that, it tends to be Muso Shinden Ryu (rather than Muso Jikiden). They're related styles, though. Have fun with your iaido! :)
I will also add that his reigi is fine for koryu, not seitei. The usual is to tie the sageo and not leave it hanging as suggested earlier, though if it is part of the school's practice, then fine. All I will comment on his performance is the lack of zanshin. But his movements look like Suino Sensei from USA. Almost over produced in my opinion, but if it is the school then fine. His movements are clean and sure, just not dynamic as is usual for Eishin Ryu.
Very nice, and to the Hollywood ninjas trolling, Eishin-Ryu has been an unbroken, practicing school for over 400 years, Naruto has only been on air for under 10, grab a boken and come to class and learn instead of assuming you know it all because you read a book on Musashi once.
Aikido is meant to be different. Look at the first 2 suburi, the way the cuts are done. Why not just from daijjodan one might wonder? Look at suburi 3, is that realistic or an exercise? Would you ever fight from waki gamae? Suburi 7 - if he has just blocked your cut would you roll up and under for that thrust?
I'll be honest: I came here for some foot-roll action. -Saw an old b&w video of a renowned teacher of Muso-Shinden ryu. -He was demonstrating Eishin ryu -He did some crazy foot-roll action with his forward foot. -I don't think I saw it in this vid due to his hakama being in the way. -Hakama are notorious for concealment of precious foot-rolls. -I am sad for I am not a witness of this foot-roll action in at least 720p. P.s. Yes, I see the foot he's sitting on, yes I did say forward-foot, it's text, please simply read it again if any confusion.
Yikes! That bad, eh? I can see your point about "too much arms." There is a definite wind-up before some of the kiri-oroshi, among other things. As for saya banare, it's obviously not mastered, but certainly present. I notice many of your comments on TH-cam are criticisms of Iaido. I won't question your expertise, but I would be interested in discussing this art. Any suggestions to help me improve?
It's a convention I think. By example, in Setei Iai, few years ago, the convention was to draw like this, because sensei learned it from the japanese delegation and somehow increased the amplitude of the movement because of a misunderstanding. One year after, when japanese sensei came back, they saw us doing like this and were like "WT... why are you doing like this, this is not how you supposed to do." And the draw was changed. This kind of details are changed every year. (excuse my english).
@METALHEADCERBERUS Aye, I'm a sandan MJER and it was indeed quite a polished display. There are a few things that I think could be improved but those are more than likely just small differences between how my sensei likes things done and what his sensei prefers.
ZNIR is part of Kendo and kendo practitioners learn and apply the kendo no kata and spar and fight with boken in armour. So the seitei Iai are, by nature, different, as they were experienced and transmitted differently. In japan you learn the 12 seitei kata first, then move into a ryu which will transmit the kata exactly as they were "founded by the founders" who used them in real combat. A real noto, after having killed an opponent, shaking your sword and wiping it before resheathing it...
I don't know if the public is wear is the cameraman but if yes, this is not very kindly (and not according with budo) to show your bottom ^^ And like my sensei says "Pierre san! KOCHI!" ^^ Well in fact your video is from 2007, I guess you progressed ;)
@KagaKiyomitsu I understand this but a chiburi alone would not remove all of the blood, anyhow if you were say at home you wouldn't want to splatter blood all over the wall or that of a restaurant. Most samurai actually carried something to wipe the blade as well. I suppose my comment was a little misleading though it was supposed to basically mean that i noticed the same thing but just not to let it bother you. You can't always be so formal it's not good for your health haha.
@bankoofer A bohi does not give you a sounds all the time. All a Bohi is for is to make the Katana lighter without taking its full structure away. The Tachikaze you hear with a Bohi is MUCH louder if the Bohi is deep enough. You can get a sound with a blade without the bohi.....Your school should not say what blade you should or should not use. Only because ALL Iaito's have a bohi. I can understand if your using a shinken....but you dont in the beginning.
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I just opened my mouth and couldn't close it. Such clean, smooth, and fluent!
I could listen to that tackikaze all day. Very well done!
I would like to say that this dojo is Beautiful, and I really enjoyed watching this form! and for those who have something negative to say,well jealousy is the root of all evil. You must be at peace with yourself you will do nothing but make others work harder to be better than they already are. Just remember that God don't like ugly!
~Great Video!
~Soke Steve Hatfield 9th Dan
Badass. No, seriously I'm a huge fan of iaido, and this was a great demo.
Excellent demonstration, I really enjoyed it - thanks!
Loved this demo, kept it interesting the way you flowed the kata into each other. Very very nice.
A true art form, fluid and pure. Simply amazing to watch.
Absolutely amazing, I enjoyed it alot - thank you.
Really enjoyed this. Again. Can't believe it was posted 12 years ago!
This is Muso Jikiden Eishin-Ryu Iaido.
I wanted to string the Bangai together like Morote Hayanuki, and this how I decided to do it.
Very nice demonstration. Way to go piecing the various kata together for an effective display.
Very interesting video !
Swift, smooth and elegant.
Thx
I was taught iaido from my kendo sensei a long time ago. He never said anything about the name of the style. Now I see it here. Thank you for letting me see your video. I learned a little of Eishin Ryu iaido. Thank you for letting me know the name of my iaido style.
Outstanding Performance
Excellent zanshin, elegant and careful foot placement.
Keep it up and thank you for sharing.
beautiful. i'm just learning. this gives me inspiration!
How beautifull, clean, smooth mocements...
Amazing vid...he is very skilled and a pleasure to watch...it gives all of us who follow on the path of Bushido, something to aspire to.
BTW...24 years of Shotokan and 16 of Eishin Ryu in dedicated study.
Great performance, very clean style !
Perfect !
Very Nice. Very skilled . So much goes unseen in these katas. You can never learn from a video. Only from a expert.
I'm a beginner with only 2.5 years of experience from different school (I believe with the same origin though), but I saw beauty in your Enbu. Very difined movements.
I enjoyed watching this. Thank you.
Yuko, Musoshinden Ryu
Un des meilleurs enchaînements de Muso shinden Ryu 👏👍🏾
I enjoyed watching this and I also enjoy knowing and training with Holland Sensei. Could some of the critics/masters who left comments on this video please provide the links to your demonstrations? I would like to learn from your visual excellence and not just your verbal excellence.
Nice clean form I love the advancing kneeling strikes.
If I may, I would like to correct your comment regarding cutting. Dropping the kisaki down the back is not wrong and is an acceptable style, but it depends on your teachers. MJER do this. MSR don't. But some MJER don't, just depends. Older styles tend to drop it. In seitei, below horizontal is a no no.
Cutting below horizontal again depends on what you are doing. Seitei doesn't on standing forms, and only slightly on seated. Koryu forms vary, but the cuts are generally below horizontal in MJER.
Beautifully done, my friend! It would be a pleasure to practice with you one day!!
MJER does have a bigger swing but the way I'm taught you're not supposed to bring the sword back that far. I've been told that at least in MJER the sword isn't supposed to drop back more than horizontal.
There seems to be a pause during furikaburi. I don't know if that's a characteristic of a different line of Jikiden. If not, something to work on. :)
@Theparableof0 A group I am friends with has a saying: "The difference is, we are practicing; they are not."
I like the series of kata you did when you started them partway through noto.
I use to practice iaido, I love watching that kata.
It's the robot dance with a sword.
Robot Iaido !
@bassistoftheyear all kata have a chiburi...reguardless of blood or not. Remember these kata's are and were used for attacks....so to practice Chiburi with the kata is needed.
Very nice clean crisp form, I can see you have done a lot of training to obtain the level of skill you have achieved.
@xenadon Which cut do you mean? ('tip drop that low'). I've not studied them all to check, but you're certainly meant to make an overhead cut go below parallel (kissaki usually around knee level at the end). You mean he went even lower, right? -- not that it's not parallel, which is the style in Zen Nhon Kendo Renmei (Seitei) Iai and Muso Shinden Ryu.
that was really quite impressive.
awesome
@ airbender460, Different schools also have different styles or application.
Perfect!
Why is the tip all the way down your back i learn it to be just above horizontal when above your head
Muy bueno, puede indicar dirección y tel de contacto para incorporarme a la práctica
@shinken12 Yeah Komei Juku is what I do (not much lately but once upon a time), seems there are a few little differences but I am by no means in any position to judge if they are or if I am just doing it wrong.
Very enjoyable!
I can't wait to learn Eishin-ryu. It's hard to get used to even Ko-ryu after doing Zenkenren iai for so long.
now I have just noticed that when you do your vertical slash you bring the Blade parallel to your back, I am not sure if that is the style in which you learned it but I do know some dojos consider it an error so I just want you to know it.
This is by means meant to criticize, it is merely an observation I've noted. Every time I see him going for the shomen, my brain starts yelling, "You're drawing the sword too far back!" because this is what I learn in Aikido. Drawing the sword all the way back behind the head may load the strike with more power, but it leaves one very, very open and that seems counter intuitive to the principle of quickly neutralizing a threat that, IIRC, is the basis behind many of Iai's techniques. Yes?
@xenadon I guess it depends on the style, I was recently at an Iwama Aikido style seminar and the Sensei was telling us that Saito used to say that the strike came from the spine just like what this guy is doing.
Good observation. Aikido tachi is different from kenjutsu, the stance and the blending, and the receiving, and O Sensei intended this. Look at how many more jo techniques there are - this comes down to there being far more spear battlefield techniques than sword from the lines. All sword moves are in the jo kata anyway, as are naginata and yari. Look at how many tachi dori and jo dori are at the pause points. Shiho nage is iai, so is yonkyo.
Perfect...
I have tried iaido myself and although I'm ungraded at this date I enjoyed the video. Nice!
Good job.
Very beautiful, I only have a 1 years experience in iaido with another school.
hong, hokushin shino ryu
I've never seen iaido kata's put together with such grace before, where can I get taught this style.
I like his walking in Bangai gata, interesting pacing. I am curious as to why his noto looks more like Muso Shinden Ryu than MJER. Which branch of MJER is this being shown?
@ScoutSniper127 i am pretty sure it is meant for all ages. i am 14 and my sister is 11 and we are doing this style and one of the other students is in his 30s
@deosullivan3 Not really. You can watch a video of Ishigaki sensei (from Hokkaido) or of the Soke (Ikeda Takeshi), and it's a bit different. They seem to have it pointing a little more forward in the inbetween stage. My impression is that this threatens to stab the opponent if they approach, and is also in position for a parry.
Hope that seems intelligible; makes sense to me :-p
Cool...Regards from MJER Indonesia. Samurai Samurai Dojo.
you dont take the blood off the blade b4 u noto??
Iaido is an entirely non-competitive martial art. It is not grounded on actual sword-fighting. It is simply Kata or forms. It's actually a very fascinating art to watch, even in practice sessions because there is a level of intensity and focus that is rare to see in other arts.
It's true that it does depend on the style. For instance, Hokyuryu (I hope I'm spelling that right) has much smaller looking cuts when compared with MJER. The thing is in MJER, which is what this guy is doing, you're not supposed to let the tip drop that low.
Man there is no suffering at the hands of those strikes!
I am a 4th dan in Eshin-Ryu Iaido, and this looks fine to me. I would love to find a dojo near me to practice. Due to the ceilings in my apartment, I can't really use my iaito inside.
nicely done
no Chiburi?
May I inquire as to which line of Eishin Ryu this is? VERY similar to ours but with SLIGHT differences. Also nice Bangai but I don't know how happy a Japanese sensei would be with you committing the Bangai wazas to film and the Internet, after all they are our most oku of oku techniques. Ganbatte!
DAMN BOY!!!! U NEED TO SWEEP THE FLOORS OF YOURE DOJO!!!
How come you have that sound while cutting? Do you have grove/ Bo-hi in your blade? In our school we were always taught not to use blades with Bo-hi since if you do get a "singing" sound anyways you know the cut was not done right. with Bo-hi you always got a sound no matter what. What's your view on this topic? Also I like your directness, very efficient.
I'm not a MJER student so I can't comment on stylistic differences.
His swings are smooth and fairly precise, but there seems to be a lack of zanshin between execution and between kata. Jo-ha-kyu is fairly absent from nukitsuke to noto, but it may be because I don't understand MJER style at all.
Visually it looks impressive, but it also looks a bit robotic, rushed, and meant to please audiences more than demonstrate spirit.
I wonder, to which of my comments did that reply.
Osu! fantastic job.
Im learning this style :D
What branch of Eishinryu is this?
Your noto is nice but all others aspects are very different from our way
in ZNIR...
This guy is deep in the game
@mikeymarshful It might have been Eishin Ryu (i.e. Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu), but if it's kendo, most kendo practitioners learn 'seitei iai' (a small set of key techniques), and if they go on to learn a traditional style (a 'koryu') after that, it tends to be Muso Shinden Ryu (rather than Muso Jikiden). They're related styles, though. Have fun with your iaido! :)
It is typical of Eishin-ryu to pull the sword back to parallel with the back before performing an overhead strike?
I will also add that his reigi is fine for koryu, not seitei. The usual is to tie the sageo and not leave it hanging as suggested earlier, though if it is part of the school's practice, then fine. All I will comment on his performance is the lack of zanshin. But his movements look like Suino Sensei from USA. Almost over produced in my opinion, but if it is the school then fine. His movements are clean and sure, just not dynamic as is usual for Eishin Ryu.
Wow how long have you been practicing?? I am only 18 and I just started. My back and legs are aching from all that stretching lol
Is this for older people? or people of all age groups? cuz' im interested in this... Its Pure!
Very nice, and to the Hollywood ninjas trolling, Eishin-Ryu has been an unbroken, practicing school for over 400 years, Naruto has only been on air for under 10, grab a boken and come to class and learn instead of assuming you know it all because you read a book on Musashi once.
Caught in the act, and i thought no one would notice u _ u
Aikido is meant to be different. Look at the first 2 suburi, the way the cuts are done. Why not just from daijjodan one might wonder? Look at suburi 3, is that realistic or an exercise? Would you ever fight from waki gamae? Suburi 7 - if he has just blocked your cut would you roll up and under for that thrust?
I'll be honest: I came here for some foot-roll action.
-Saw an old b&w video of a renowned teacher of Muso-Shinden ryu.
-He was demonstrating Eishin ryu
-He did some crazy foot-roll action with his forward foot.
-I don't think I saw it in this vid due to his hakama being in the way.
-Hakama are notorious for concealment of precious foot-rolls.
-I am sad for I am not a witness of this foot-roll action in at least 720p.
P.s. Yes, I see the foot he's sitting on, yes I did say forward-foot, it's text, please simply read it again if any confusion.
Yikes! That bad, eh?
I can see your point about "too much arms." There is a definite wind-up before some of the kiri-oroshi, among other things. As for saya banare, it's obviously not mastered, but certainly present.
I notice many of your comments on TH-cam are criticisms of Iaido. I won't question your expertise, but I would be interested in discussing this art. Any suggestions to help me improve?
It's a convention I think. By example, in Setei Iai, few years ago, the convention was to draw like this, because sensei learned it from the japanese delegation and somehow increased the amplitude of the movement because of a misunderstanding. One year after, when japanese sensei came back, they saw us doing like this and were like "WT... why are you doing like this, this is not how you supposed to do." And the draw was changed. This kind of details are changed every year. (excuse my english).
pretty good
He has samurai's soul.
@ccsco I see... Thank you! :D
@METALHEADCERBERUS Aye, I'm a sandan MJER and it was indeed quite a polished display. There are a few things that I think could be improved but those are more than likely just small differences between how my sensei likes things done and what his sensei prefers.
@ccsco Thanks! :D
@KagaKiyomitsu no need with no blood i suppose
AWESOME KATA!!!
ZNIR is part of Kendo and kendo practitioners learn and apply the kendo no kata and spar and fight with boken in armour. So the seitei Iai are, by nature, different, as they were experienced and transmitted differently.
In japan you learn the 12 seitei kata first, then move into a ryu which will transmit the kata exactly as they were "founded by the founders" who used them in real combat.
A real noto, after having killed an opponent, shaking your sword and wiping it before resheathing it...
Nanka Nihonjinjanai to iyadesune! Jouzu nandesukedone...
I don't know if the public is wear is the cameraman but if yes, this is not very kindly (and not according with budo) to show your bottom ^^
And like my sensei says "Pierre san! KOCHI!" ^^
Well in fact your video is from 2007, I guess you progressed ;)
@CyBeRTRoNFLuX yeah i was wondering about that as well
kendo&iaido forever
Why are you even watching this video if you don't like iaido?
@KagaKiyomitsu I understand this but a chiburi alone would not remove all of the blood, anyhow if you were say at home you wouldn't want to splatter blood all over the wall or that of a restaurant. Most samurai actually carried something to wipe the blade as well. I suppose my comment was a little misleading though it was supposed to basically mean that i noticed the same thing but just not to let it bother you. You can't always be so formal it's not good for your health haha.
@bankoofer A bohi does not give you a sounds all the time. All a Bohi is for is to make the Katana lighter without taking its full structure away. The Tachikaze you hear with a Bohi is MUCH louder if the Bohi is deep enough. You can get a sound with a blade without the bohi.....Your school should not say what blade you should or should not use. Only because ALL Iaito's have a bohi. I can understand if your using a shinken....but you dont in the beginning.
3.05.... Thnx for the siting technique^^