Have You Found Platinum? Here's How to Test, Identify, and know what you've really found
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- Have you found platinum? Platinum nuggets are rare they are far rarer than gold nuggets - but they are out there to be discovered. How can you test and tell if its the real thing? Watch this video and learn how - I will talk about platinum and methods to test potential platinum nuggets.
For those who want to learn more about prospecting and finding gold check out my book, Fists full of Gold. It’s an encyclopedia of everything on the topic of prospecting. It’s available on Amazon. You can find it at (affiliate):
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Thank u chris for all the time and experience you share with us you are a great person.
Your generosity goes unoticed bless you brotha
Thanks, I appreciate that
I missed this one for some reason , oh well saw it just now. Another good one chris.
One this ice noticed with all your videos is you give us all the tools to do our own work. And when we do our own we learn so much more.
Ty sir
Glad to hear it was helpful.
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Thanks Chris.It was so nice meeting you at the Gold Show and thanks for taking a picture with me.We appreciate all your information.
Still can't believe you asked for a photo! I'm not a celebrity, just another guy.
Great stuff... Thanks for the facts about identifying platinum ore.
Glad you enjoyed it and it was helpful.
I enjoyed this episode of have you found platinum, etc. Safe Shemitah Chris. I have your book "Fists Full of Gold" and value it as a rich source of information to refer to. Thank you for your continued video series. Looking forward to your next one!
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you Chris! This was a great informative video. We have some platinum in the Snowy Range here in Southeast Wyoming.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Appreciate it.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for all the information ⛏️
You bet!
excellent video. excellent work, very engaging
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Chris.
Glad you enjoyed it
It’s really exciting finding the lumps of alum - I’ve found several in a local river. They shine up like silver through the water. Thank you for the video 🤩
So glad you enjoyed it.
I get pissed when I find aluminum thinking it’s platinum. What are you talking about?
@@MEMELIFEBABYunfortunately for me - where I live, the most exciting thing I’m likely to find is aluminium. I’m easily pleased. I get excited when I find a cool pebble on the beach. Maybe I’m sad 😉
Thank you for the time you take making your content, and I've learned a lot from watching your videos,
My pleasure!
It's amazing that both platinum and palladium are both listed as rarer than gold, but an ounce of gold is nearly three times the amount of platinum; and i believe palladium is still more expensive than gold. Makes you wonder. Now rhodium is rarer than all and its price does reflex it. Although i believe rhodium is a lot like diamonds on their pump and dump schemes. Great information Chris. Another good test is to put a torch to it. Platinum will continue to glow long after you turn off the fire.
Rarity is one thing, demand is another and both are needed for a high value. Some years back platinum was by far the most valuable, then car manufacturers switched from platinum based smog converters to palladium. Now less platinum is needed and the price is less, while palladium is now the most valuable.
@@ChrisRalph gold is everywhere no shortage and in bottom of da boot sir. This shortage of gold and many other precious metals and stones r not as rare to find on this earth. The government is Lian because I can prove this
@@gloriabadon2694 Im sorry, but even if you might be able to prove this, nobody is going to know about it if you don't learn to spell.
@@mikeblair2594 a 14 year old, probably. LOL Actually these days, they could well have a PhD in English!
@@gloriabadon2694really
another Home Run video Thanks me and Gary have been talking about platinum
Cherokee diggings.
@@ChrisRalph watching again !!!!
Thanks for the vid! 👍🏻
No problem 👍
You are an excellent teacher sir and I have your book.
Cool, and thanks for watching!
Thank you very much👍😀
You are very welcome
Thanks for identifying facts
Our pleasure! Glad you liked the video.
Hi sir , you clear much more misconception thank sir
Thanks. I'm glad to hear that
Just love your videos
I'm glad you enjoy them.
Years ago when I had metal detector I would fid heavy globs of something on lake Erie especially in a couple locations. I always thought they were shrapnel from the war on the lakes. I still have a small box full of the pieces. Some probably are aluminum and some are real heavy and dense. I always thought possible silver but looked more like steal.
Melted Pot metal (zinc) is pretty common in some areas and it is a lot more dense than aluminum, but still roughly half as dense as real platinum.
I hope to watch this video again in the future when I have this problem.
It will still be and best of luck in your efforts.
Thank you,I watch your videos,your awesome
Glad you like them!
Chris, just found your TH-cam videos and love the info. I never thought about platinum nuggets before. We live in Riverside CA and have Several gold and mineral mines around, we like exploring tailing piles looking for minerals. Last summer our local reservoir Was doing repairs and drained the water Exposing about 50 feet of The Lake bottom. When walking my dogs along the new shoreline I was finding 5 and 6 pounds of led fishing weights In pockets of hardened clay where the sad had been washed away. When I got home I noticed that 1 of them Had a metallic blue-green Color and is about 3/8x5/16 (2 grams) and ferrous. When looking at it with a loop the outside looks like It's a mineral With boxy edges. But the middle has a smooth gold like tone to it. I've been tempted to acid test it or smash it flat and see what happens, what would you do.
Looking forward to reading your book. The kids and I love to treasure hunt. Thanks
I am unsure of your description - you say its ferrous - that means its made of iron. Then you say you don't know what it is. Its almost impossible to ID minerals from pictures, and far more difficult to ID from just descriptions.
My nuggets were found downstream from the Stillwater Mine. 45 minutes drive from the mine. Wow, thank you for this. I have 2 nuggets that I found on a bench off of the Yellowstone River. They look a lot like the picture that you showed. They are certainly heavier than aluminum. I put them off to the side and have not even much looked at them over the past several years. The first sentence about Stillwater occurred from seeing your picture of Platinum. My projecting/geology knowledge is more about that yellow. Thanks again.
No problem, glad you enjoyed the video.
That yellow???
Gold u mean??
Gold is not just gold my bruhda
Nice video sir
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Chris,
I guess, most people find a very small piece of silver looking stuff and try to determine it.
Mostly it's a part of the shovel you're working with… But if it's not reacting to nitric acid and too small for a density test, you'll never know for sure.
I'm prospecting for gold in Germany were platinum is very rare. I found a tiny, flat piece (about 0.4 mm) looking like platinum and doesn't react to nitric acid.
If it would be easy, it would be easy. ;-)
Best regards from Germany!
at less than half an mm and only one piece, it is hard to say.
Hey Chris, new subscriber and I love the content. Have been learning quite a bit. I do have one question though especially for places where there was a lot of mining in the past. How likely are you to run into gold with mercury attached to it from the old timers mining operations? Especially when prospecting streams? Is it a pretty valid concern in your experience?Any tips on safety?
Probability of encountering amalgam from old timer operations varies a lot - from zero to fairly good. It depends on what is upstream from you. Mercury was fairly expensive, and only used by larger operators. Individual prospectors rarely used it. I've prospected all over California and Nevada and have only seen it occasionally.
Thank you!
@@ChrisRalph high Chris I am learning about geology and I was wondering if your taking a apprentice.?
I went to my spot got 4 rocks Could put all four n a 12 pack About 80 to 100 pounds so hard Bringing up the hill And burned crush crushed burned some more and crashed added some flux put in the crucible put in the microwave get red hot hit with a torch got a little piece of metal test Where is acid and it was platinum
The small amount of rock made 8 g Crazy homeless living my car have no money and what am I doing finding platinum and Gold definitely gonna be out of the car soonIt’s a year to figure this stuff out but never gave up
Turns out my placer gold claim in AZ is high in pgm I only know gold processing trying to figure out how to process this ore .
interesting.
My new favourite nuggets are bismuth, know a great spot with loads of placer nugs😁
sounds good.
Can you pan for Platinum the same way as for gold? I'm close to a platinum area in southern spain, near Marbella and would like to give it a try. Unfortunately, detectors are prohibited. And is your book also available as an e-book? That would be easier for your non US audience to get a hold of. Thank you.
Platinum is dense like gold and can be panned like gold. The book is not available as an E-book. E-books are designed for books with few or no pictures like novels. Mine is extensively illustrated and the scaling for different devices works poorly with photos.
@@ChrisRalph
Hi Chris,
I'm sorry to correct you, but if you convert the text of your book to pdf and embed the photos correctly, the pdf will look at least 99% like the printed book. It can be done.
I've got some "books" I can't get in printed version, but I prefer the real books.
Scrolling real books is different compared to e-books.
I love your videos. It’s too bad that the Niton XRF technology isn’t cheaper for the hobby prospector.
XRF technology is very expensive.
@@ChrisRalph Yes, I know. Fisher will lease one but that too isn’t cheap. Though cheaper than purchasing one. For a rock hound club, group of hobby collectors, prospectors, etc it may be worthwhile to go in for a 2 week rental and charge members a nominal fee per analysis, just to pay for the rental cost. I’ve had specimens analyzed by a local Scrap Metal dealer, pawn broker and a Gallery who purchased antique Silver pieces and jewelry. They’ll do it for free if you’re doing business with them or a nominal fee.
Love your videos I have found some really amazing things Chris if you would like to see is there somewhere I can reach you to send you pictures I think you will be pretty amazed
Trying to identify minerals just from a picture is nearly impossible - that is why I dont try to offer a mineral ID service. I get loads of requests like yours even though I do say in several of my videos, I don't do this.
I wasn't asking for I'd sorry if it came across that way
My mistake - you told me you found amazing things and wanted to send pictures.
So will acid from a precious metal acid tests like the kits that come with the. 14 18 22 k gold silver and platinum acids work
To do what exactly? Indicate purity? The kits are not all exactly the same, and are designed with jewelry in mind, so no, they do not reliably work with raw platinum which can contain a variety of PGM metals and other metals as well like iron.
Good show Sir. What of taste or lack thereof?
That is not a test which would tell you anything at all.
was out swinging my gold monster ,left early to get to the monthly meeting. ,they were talking about the claim me and a buddy were on ,and of course we find out we we're in the wrong area. of that claim. 😀. was nice and cool. though. was a great day ,been so hot in california. was good to get a chance to try to find gold. have a good day.
Knowing exactly where you are is important.
First time watching , couldn't quite understand all the info you were talking about . Some helped like you say can't believe everything on the internet..have some stuff I still Don't know if it's platinum maybe you can educate me some more
Watch it a second time to understand fully - you will catch on.
Good video
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks.
Hi Chris Ralph, thank you for your information in this video. I found it very informative. I was wondering if you can give me a bit of advice. My family recently found PGM ore in some land in Mexico, and have since been mining it. Like you stated, the ore contains higher concentrations of Rhodium and Irridium but has a good amount of Platinum. Issue is now that it is mined, what next? Thank you in advance.
This is a much bigger question than you think. I'd need to go over many things with you, perhaps have you go through various laboratory tests, answer many questions and then evaluate all the information to give you an answer. I do not offer consulting or advisement services, so it is just not possible for me to get involved in your project.
@ChrisRalph thank you for your response. I understand that you might not offer those services, I guess I was much more interested in seeing if maybe we're on to something here. We did an Atomic absorption spectroscopy test already. I'm about to order some nickel sulfide tests through ALS labs. Maybe you can point me in the right direction. This is all new to me and so far I'm learning most of my information through TH-cam such as your channel, which is great by the way. Thank you again for all the videos.
Does anyone know what that beautiful light metallic green mineral is, Coming from boss mine in Clarks County platinum ore examples pictures around 12:10 of the video? I have came across running along ,some deep inside cracks in small amounts on what a believe is just white ,clear and smoke quartz. Any clue? When I try to google it I can never find it! This is the first time I seen or really noticed it in a video.
This demonstrates how very difficult it is to ID a mineral just by a picture - and I get people all the time wanting me to look at their pictures and tell them what it is. However on this one, since I took the picture, I know what I was looking at when I was there in person. First, the green is not metallic in any way if you see the rock in person. Its a mixture of malachite (a green copper carbonate mineral) and limonite - an iron oxide that is basically the same as rust. The coating is very thin - so you see a combination of the two.
Hi good day sir Ralph....how to distinguish a real rhodium powder?I found it in grey color in crystaline silvery white fine texture....it is 1.3 kilos of pure powder ...sir pls help me to determine this thing....and I found it by means of treasure hunting here in phillipines.thank u sir
You would need to get a lab to analyze it for you.
I had an assey done on some pyrite found in Northern Nevada. It came out as 3 oz gold 19 oz of silver and trace amounts of palladium l. Is that common?
The gold and silver numbers are good, the trace of palladium is unusual, but not unheard of.
@ChrisRalph I wish I could pick your brain about a certain area in Northern Nevada. But your videos are great. They are definitely teaching me a lot. And I will be buying your book before I go prospecting this April. Keep doing what you are doing.
Hello Professor, how can I talk to you about rhodium extraction? Thank you for your guidance
I am sorry, but I get so many requests that I cannot offer personal guidance and training.
I was placer mining on my old claim on the Applegate in southern Oregon and what we had was a bench deposit from the old riverbed. So my kid would dig up the ground to bedrock and fill buckets and bring them down to me and I'd run the bucket through the sluice. Ain't teenagers great!
Anyway, I was getting a lot of lead from folks shooting across the river and I just put that in an old Gatorade bottle to melt and recast. I found a lot of small shiny flakes and fly poop that always road with the gold, not much but it was there.
My father is a geologist (he's the one who gave me the fever) and I gave him the contents of that vial (about an ounce) when we were shutting down operations and he did the testing and it was platinum. He was able to do some expensive repairs on his truck with a bit left over. The reason I kept the stuff was I remembered an old story about the 49rs finding a white metal in their sluice boxes and throwing it away because they didn't know what it was. I don't know if that was true, but it made me be cautious. BTW, I know what gold covered with mercury looks like. That wasn't it. Though I did find it there, not as much as I thought I would.
Sounds good. nitric will dissolve lead and mercury (from amalgam). But nitric won't touch platinum.
Are you aware if anyone has processed the platinum in the serpentine mixed rock in the Bear River Campground near Colfax, Calif. with any commercial success?
Most serpentine carries asbestos, dont crush it. Second the serpentine carries only tiny traces of gold, not economic amounts.
Good morning Chris
Hey there!
Probably a tire fire artifact, aluminum rims are pretty common and tires burn pretty darn hot.
The problem is that there was only a little more aluminum in the fire beyond this chunk and there was no sign of a vehicle fire. Plus it was a forest campfire in the middle of nowhere next to old gold diggings. I would expect a tire fire to have a lot more aluminum and sign of a vehicle fire.
@@ChrisRalph well, could be a jiffy-pop aluminum pan would be my next guess see it's near a campfire.
@@the1dud A Jiffy-Pop pan would make only a fractional size nugget compared to what Chris has shown us.
All of the Platinum metals are valuable and useful. They are the heavier Iron group elements. One of the best sources of platinum is the Ural Mountains of Russia. Thee mountains have a unique feature. There is a prairie of both sides. All other mountains are only associated with a prairie on one side or no prairies.
There are often some small amounts of platinum in copper ores.
Platinum metal have and interesting chemistry. They tend to have a greater valence than the iron group which is usually 2 or 3 and do not.for aqua icons in water. They and gold are most often chloro complexes.
The amounts of PGMs in copper ores are only the tiniest traces but are recovered from the copper bearing sulfides in he normal processing of the ore.
I have a question I inherited some platinum ore where would I have it checked into maybe sell it I've looked online and haven't really got any good information
Use Google and find an assay lab to test it for you.
It’s easy to mine platinum just use the saws all go out at night it’s kinda like sniping!
Are you missing your catalytic converter?
I drive a diesel truck - diesel has no converter.
I found some native rhodium nuggets, native platinum nuggets, palladium ore and some rough diamonds, one still in the yellow ground kimberlite matrix, in a glacier till on the Ohio river, on the east side of Cincinnati, when I was fishing one day. Most of the nuggets are over 50 grams, my digital scale only goes to 50 grams, I need a new one. Do you know where I can get an assay done or what I can do to verify what I’ve found? I’ve researched and tested this stuff myself and I can’t figure out what else this stuff could possibly be. Any information would be great. Thank you.
I have all my assays done by ALS labs in Reno, Nevada.
@@ChrisRalph thank you
What materials looks like stainless steel filings, mixed with flour gold and black sand? Any guesses?
From your description, which is pretty vague, I have no idea.
is Cobalt a mineral? was it the first natural magnet? and what would that mineral look like found in nature?
Cobalt is an element like copper or iron or silver. It is also a metal like the other elements I named. Its not a mineral, although there are minerals containing cobalt, like there are minerals containing copper or iron or silver.
@@ChrisRalph What is lodestone made out of?
Iron and oxygen in the form of a mineral called magnetite.
At 13:52 what is the green mineral in this sample? Would you be willing to receive samples by mail and identify what the minerals are in an ore sample?
I do not offer either an ore testing or mineral ID service, mostly because it’s not as easy as you think. Ores must be tested by assay and the professional labs which do that charge significant fees.
@@ChrisRalph ok thanks for responding.
I have a silver in colour bar of metal, density of Mass 350g/Volume .35g = 10 grams. Not magnetic, bubbles in H2O2. What is it do you think?
Lots of metals and alloys make H2O2 bubble - that is not a test for platinum.
Don't listen to him guy ,of course he is going to put your nugget down, you probably have a PGM NUGGET! That means it might have a little platinum in it or none at all! But that is good because it could have just Rhodium in it and ruthenium, or several pgm's .remember there are 6 platinum group metals not one ! Platinum is just the most commercial or popular, so that's all they test for, and when you walk away because there was no platinum in it ,which is a mesley 850 a ounce , but you have rhodium in it which is 10,000 a ounce , you just got ripped off .They can only test for platinum and maybe palladium.....but there are 4 more left ....and that is ruthenium, rhodium, iridium, and osmium!!
Everyone REMEMBER THERE ARE 6 PLATINUM GROUP METALS NOT JUST PLATINUM!!!! THERE IS RHODIUM, RUTHENIUM, PALLADIUM, IRIDIUM, AND OSMIUM!! THEY CAN ONLY TEST AT A PAWN SHOP FOR PLATINUM AND MAYBE PALLADIUM, BUT NOT THE OTHERS. IN FACT EVEN IF YOU HAVE PLATINUM, IT WILL STILL TEST NEGATIVE FOR PLATINUM IF YOU DONT HAVE AT LEAST 75 PERCENT PLATINUM . BUT IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, THERE ARE PGM NUGGETS THAT LOOK LIKE MELTED METAL, THEY ARE NATURAL...THE PLATINUM ONLY GOES AS HIGH AS LIKE 40 PERCENT . A COMMON PGM NUGGET IF IT EVEN HAS PLATINUM IN IT AND NOT JUST THE OTHER MORE EXPENSIVE PGM "S WILL READ LIKE THIS ....PLATINUM 22 PERCENT, PALLADIUM,15 PERCENT , RUTHENIUM 23 PERCENT, RHODIUM, 20 PERCENT , IRIDIUM, 9 PERCENT , AND OSMIUM 6 PERCENT....AND THE REST OF THE PERCENTAGE IS THE COMMON BASE METALS THAT A NATIVE PLACER PLATINUM NUGGET IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN IT! AND THESE NUGGETS AVERAGE FROM 2 OUNCES TO 1 POND . IF YOU HAVE A THREE QUARTER POND NUGGET WITH A QUARTER POUND OF RHODIUM IN IT AND A QUARTER POUND OF RUTHENIUM IN IT, WELL THST MAKES YOU A RICH MAN, BUT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE AT LEAST 75 PERCENT PLATINUM IN IT, OR NO PLATINUM AT ALL BUT OTHER MORE EXPENSIVE PGM 'S ,THEY SAY GOOD BYE ,YOU HAVE NO PLATINUM , YOU HAVE NOTHING , IN THE MEANTIME YOU WALK AWAY FROM A FORTUNE ABD THEY REFINE YOUR NUGGET AND LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!! AND THE MELTED LOOK , DON'T GET ME STARTED ,BUT THAT HAS TO DO WITH ACUMULATION OF METALS FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS THAT GOT DRANK UP BY THE TREES IN THE WATER . THEN WHEN THERE IS A FOREST FIRE ALL THE PARTICLES OF METAL IN THE ROOT ALL RUNS UP TO ONE SPOT, WHEN THE TREE COOLS DOWN. YOU HAVE ONE BLOB OF METAL ,LOOKING MAN MADE MELTED BUT ITS NOT, ITS NATURAL!!!
I found somthing that’s non magnetic in bear creek past red rocks in colorado in a river bank looks like chromite is all over it with some type of amphibole may be mixed with serpentine
Best of luck to you.
I love and respect you guy, BUT...... You take beating around the bush to a whole new level. (😝)! Still, thank you for sharing your thoughts, knowledge and experience!!! (Invaluable)👍!!!!......🤠🎧⛏️⚒️
Sorry, I dont do the tick-tok 60 second version. Most folks prefer the additional information, but a few, like yourself, just want the super short version. I cant do both at the same time, so I do what the majority want and what I prefer.
@@ChrisRalph Sorry if I've offended you. I have a "Get to the point" Military Mind when it comes to presentations (Thanks to the U.S.Army Infantry). Do what you want, you're an American right? God Forbid you should be told something you don't like. I will continue to subscribe, separating the wheat from the chaff in all the many channels I subscribe to. (By the way.... What is Tik Tok?)😒........ Happy Hunting, Happy Teaching and NEVER stop what you're doing!!! 😜👍
Tiktoc.com is a Chinese web site that hosts videos, but they are normally less than a couple minutes, often not more than 30 seconds. The site is not intended to teach, but to host funny or entertaining snippets to make people smile or laugh. I do get folks who want me to tell them just what they want to know (and how can I know what particular thing they are interested in) in just a minute or two. The thing with learning something is that it takes time. I have a friend who went to West point and they spent many, many hours learning strategy, combat skills, logistics, etc. Military is only "get to the point quickly" in some areas, but not in others - it depends on the topic.
there is placer platinum in B.C Canada . up around some rivers near kolowna are you familiar with that area.? have heard Bill Barlee.he wrote afew books and had serios called gold trails and ghost towns for about 10 years you can on see it youtub. very im formative
I know there is platinum in several areas of BC, but I am not well familiar with the deposits.
I have a nugget that looks exactly like your platinum nuggets it’s super heavy. I have held onto it for 20 years I found it out on a desert road. I’m from Oregon it was in the desert. Nobody knows what it is. What should I do to know for sure?
Watch the video, it has a number of suggestions for identification.
I have found a platinum or palladium metamorphic rock. Extremely heavy and I cannot cut it
Congratulations.
lookout funny bone! that's ore, oar is it? ha.ha....it would really be cool 2 find precious metals in refined nugget states!!
good luck!
Ore does not always look like you expect it would.
Or biologineer some bugs that would start glowing when in contact with the metal???
A dream.
I bought a Silver Floating Heart.
Turns out it said 950 not 925
It was Tiffany/Platinum
Gave it away as a gift.
"Need to understand Hallmarks"
Gold is Gold. In The back country or in the city.
hallmarks are important.
Can you find platinum in black sand? I’m getting some really heavy silvery crystalline concentrate
Yes, it's possible but you know that some black sand has a silvery sheen.
@@ChrisRalph ya, it’s a real silvery crystalline sand far heavier than black sand. I also have lots of pyrite that floats off early. I guess I could try some nitric acid solution? Also does mercury pick up platinum? Thanks for the info
Where could I find near Southern Indiana and northern Kentucky a small particles of where is particles of rare Earth elements????
Rare earth deposits are not common, dont know if any exist in your part of the county.
Would I be able to use the Nitric Acid test on Ore that I suspect to be platinum ore?
It is a test of metallic platinum, not for ore rocks.
@@ChrisRalph How'd you advise testing ore to confirm?
As I say in the video, you need to find an assay lab to test your ores for you.
I'm in West Australia and I think I have found a Nugget and triangle shape of platinum who knows where I could take it to get it tested it is extremely heavy and magnetic any answers would be appreciated
Natural Platinum is only very weakly magnetic on rare occasions. If its plainly magnetic, its probably not platinum.
@@ChrisRalph thank you for your reply yes you're right it is only slightly magnetic but only on very powerful magnet I have found meteorites mostly iron or nickel but this is something I have not seen before and looking at photograph of platinum this seems very likely but .I will see if my local jeweller don't mind doing a quick test. the thing is quite unusual it is very heavy and very dense with a Grey white silver colour it is a flat triangle two leading edges have like a black melted looks like extremely dark coloured rock hard substance on 2 sides edge a pure steel or platinum it is not aluminium as I know that is not magnetic and is lighter and this is extremely heavy and very dense almost unscratchable compared to Silver or any other metal that I have found I will let you know once I get a test because I would love to find out what this thing is as I've been doing this for a long time and never came across anything like it before again thank you for your reply👍
What is Pt 195.08? I found 6 bar of it? Does it have value?
The atomic weight of platinum is 195.08. So Pt 195.08 is regular platinum. 195.08 grams of platinum will contain 6.02 X 10 to the 23rd power of atoms.
@@ChrisRalph Does it have value? How much will it cost?
Yes, platinum is valuable. The prices goes up and down every day.
Couldn't we make a spray that would make would make your platinum or gold luminous bored luminous with a special light???
Not that I know of.
I digg it
Thank u
Best of luck in your efforts.
I have silvery rock with holes in it would really like to no if it's real or not
I'm sure it's a rock, but I don't offer a mineral ID service. Find someone local who can look at it in person.
Other metals may make hydrogen peroxide bubble but not like how platinum makes it bubble. Metals like silver, aluminum, etc. are slower catalysts unlike platinum group metals. It takes 30 seconds to a one minute for former metals to start bubbling but PGMs are instantaneous.
Tried nickel as a catalyst?
@@ChrisRalph have not but I will
Hello sir .is there any gem detector machine in the market
No
Why is platinum worth approximately only 2/3rds the price of Gold especially because it's so much more rare? Is it because of the requirement in industry which appears to be less in use??? Cheers
Less overall demand for platinum right now. Some years back platinum was much more expensive than gold - markets change over time.
@@ChrisRalph ok cheers thanks for the history lesson. I never new this. Thankyou. Cheers Patrick Wilson.👍🇦🇺
Sir Good afternoon ;May you help me sir to receive the knowledge of gem stone;
Look at my gemstone videos.
As someone that lives on an old volcanic gold field with lots of unusual geology l find lots of odd and interesting stuff(both natural and man made). Bits of melted aluminium are easy to identify by weight, but the random melted blobs of lead sometimes make me wonder. A melted bullet is never a surprise, but random half pound chunks of melted lead in random spots on the side of a mountain seem out of place and odd. Normally l collect them just in case, clean them up and hit them with a blowtorch. Lead melts, platinum won't without much higher temperatures. I hate having to state the obvious, but clearly something that should only be done outdoors, breathing in lead fumes is a big no no.
Best of luck to you.
Wells grey?
Will silver desolve in a diluted nitric acid solution?
Yes, but lots of things also dissolve in dilute nitric.
I have shiny, metal looking "flakes" in black sands after panning all the gold out. Not much gold, but tonnes of non magnetic black sand. One day I will learn to smelt...
smelting black sand is usually a bad idea.
@@ChrisRalph
I am new to all of this.lol I am bumbling my way through. What do you recommend? Thanks for the reply.
Im Positive I have found a Platinum Nugget but I have not sent it for a XRF or to a refiner. But I have ran a Bunch of test and it is dense. I even used a app and it said Platinum Multiple times. I wish I knew someone with a XRF or similar Machine.
First test l would be doing is hitting it with a blowtorch(propane or butane, not oxy acetylene). Platinum has a very high melting point, but aluminium, lead and even silver will start to melt. Definitely needs to be done outside, you don't want to breathe in lead fumes. It wouldn't be nice to damage a silver nugget, but if you wanted an answer, or at least to rule out some of the more likely options. Platinum was once not considered useful through most of history because jewelers couldn't melt it until better methods were developed.
@@Jake12220 well I think the Platinum Nugget is not pure. So this is why I want to get a XRF Scan because I think the metal is like a Native Metal or could possibly be a artifact. Because I can melt it with a Butane Torch which is not nearly as hot as a oxy one. I did melt a small piece off my main nugget and this is the piece I have been running test on. I have hit it with Nitric. Sometimes the streak stays sometimes it dosent. It dosent rust or corrode. Is bendable and unbreakable, never ever do i loose a grain of metal it always bends right back into shape. And my app has said its PT like 3 times while also suspecting hematite or FE with Quartz. I really just need to find someone soon to scan it.
As I said on the video, test it in Nitric acid. Also density tests yield a number not just "dense". You number should be 19 to 21 for it to be platinum. If yo can melt it with a butane torch it is NOT platinum. Most likely melted pot metal or solder or something like that.
@@ChrisRalph can Platinum be mixed with Any low melting point metals within nature ? I cant find any info other then the fact that it hangs around with PGMs
I got some native platinum I need to get around to acid testing.
That is a good test to do.
what is the value of that one you are holding
Watch the video.
I am from Philippines interested about the platinum sir tell me how to test
The video talks about how to test.
My friend has found in the mountain morethan 3kilos but there is no direct buyer, how much in one gram sir the platinum?
Find a laboratory in your country to do the test and see.
I found something I don't actually know what is. It's a black metallic substance, small nuggets, heavy, but it doesn't bubble under hydrogen peroxide. Not sure what I've found. Oh, and it's not magnetic either
Of course platinum is silver gray, not black.
@@ChrisRalph of course, which is why naturally I didn't decide it was lol. Might be something else, probably almost definitely nothing of value though.
last time i was out (holcomb valley ca) on a claim found a link to a belt fed machine gun. serious. who the hell was shooting automatic weapons in the san bernadino national forest. odd as hell. (finds of the month) at the monthly meeting have a good day.
strange stuff.
yes it is. have a good day was good to talk to you at the gold show. in pomona
Unfortunately English has no simple word for "undense". Now for most folks that is no loss but for those of us who deal with the concept of density a lot it's a bit inconvenient. I turns out though that English once had a good word for undense. That word is subtile which is related to our more common word subtil. It was probably pronounced sub-teel but has largely passed from common use. From Etymology Online; subtile (adj.)
c. 1300, sotil; modern form from late 14c., "clever, dexterous, crafty; not dense, thin, rarefied," from Old French subtil (14c.), a learned Latinized reformation of earlier sotil (12c.), source of subtle (q.v.). Still used in some Bible translations in Genesis iii.1, and it survived after 17c. as a parallel formation to subtle in some material senses ("fine, delicate, thin"). Related: Subtilly.
Even undense does not do the trick as it implies something is going from dense to become undense. Perhaps light or airy.
I have a blob just like that I found in my old neighbors back yard
Aluminum melts easily.
I have also one in the same shape as yours
OK.
i have one too❤
Congratulations. Could be a really nice find!
We have a three quarter pound nugget that is very heavy for the size that the nugget is. Recycle platinum used a XRF gun on this nugget. And yes this nugget had no platinum in it at all . This pgm nugget though had other pgm’s that are worth more than platinum. It had other base metals in it… but it had these precious metals in it and it showed the percentage. It had ruthenium 21 percent.. rhodium 19 percent ,.. palladium 5 percent, gold. 5 percent and silver 4 percent. You see it didn’t have to have any platinum in it to be called a pgm nugget. Obviously if. Nugget has several other pgm metal in it, but no platinum , you’re going to call it a pgm nugget, and these nuggets exist in Humboldt, Trinity, and Shasta counties… the “ EMERAL TRIANGLE “. Even apps willl identify pgm nuggets with no platinum in them “ platinum “ nuggets, just because they are platinum group metals, and look almost identical. I mean a ruthenium rhodium nugget will look almost identical. groves shape etc as a straight platinum nugget. The color is a little different in terms of all 6 platinum group metals. But no doubt these pgm nuggets with several pgm”s in them like iridium, ruthenium, osmium, rhodium, but NO platinum in them do exist. The funny thing is that for the most part their are 6 platinum group metals and 3 out of the six are super dense and the other 3 are only a 12 density like led, but the lighter pgm”s are worth more. So the problem is even though we have this ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, gold and silver nugget that is worth a lot, people are going to say we have nothing because they usually don’t have the tests nir do they want to test anything but your more normal commercial element such as platinum! They love to say,” if this was platinum it would be a lot heavier. But even I know when you have a native platinum nugget , your base metals and other pgm”s are going to lower it from 21 density, which is only in jewelry, because jewelry is pretty much pure platinum, to like14 density. The base metals and the other pgm”s lower the density down, that’s why your nugget is not as heavy as it should be ,.. maybe not heavier but certainly worth more in this situation. Also like I said you never find platinum pure in nature! So you see the problem we have Chris we have these nuggets that have several of the pgm”s in them, maybe even all the pgm”s in them including platinum,it’s not going to test right
You could have a nugget that has 40 percent platinum, and the other 5 pgm”s in it with all different percentages in it, but people around here without the right equipment and without the right education on platinum just blow your very expensive pgm nugget off and tell you that you have nothing when you really do. Yes and that is where an assay comes in handy, but we have been looking for a place who will do a fire assay the right way, and it’s almost impossible to find. They love to tell you what you don’t have, but they can never tell you what you do have. They check it with a XRF gun. But they don’t want to really get in there like with a fire assay, do to the fact they don’t know what they are doing and or because we don’t have all of this money to get them going or to get them to really get in there and do a real fire assay test in it. So here we are stuck with this 150 pound platinum group metal metallic fortune, but we can’t get the right refinery to do the job. Don’t these people realize how beneficial this would be for them and us if they did it right? What should we do Chris? How do we get these people to see what a good thing we really have?
Congratulations on your find.
Because I study genetics and am building my own genetics lab at home
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Can you break a platinum ore with hammer?
Platinum ore has only a little platinum in it, the rest is rock, you can break rock with a hammer.
@@ChrisRalph
But my ore was very tough and I brook it after 5 minutes hammering it like a blacksmith
If you want to know what it is, spend the money to get a chemical analysis done in a lab.
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How can i communicate you sir.. im from Philippines
I don't offer private consulting or advisement services.
We're do you get ride of platnuim nuggets
Do you mean where do you sell them?
I'm wondering if I found gold can you help
Sorry, no. As I clearly said in the video, I don't offer an ID service. I get quite a few people every day who want me to ID their rock and mineral photos. I do not offer a mineral ID service, mostly because it’s not as easy as you think. Usually, minerals cannot be identified from just a picture. Please watch my videos on how to Identify minerals for yourself. Part 1 can be found here: th-cam.com/video/MpkW58ZeQlc/w-d-xo.html and Part 2 can be found here: th-cam.com/video/zOWo49X90gA/w-d-xo.html and Part 3 can be found here: th-cam.com/video/_ab5NngRlVw/w-d-xo.html
Chris found Jimmy Hoffa!!!
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I've found a lot of good stuff, but I don't think I've found Hoffa.
Guest ,white gooooold
No, not gold.
I think i found a deposit of platinum in my land. At first thought it was gold
No sure how you could mix up the two, they are very different.
Hang onto that aluminum Ralphie. During World War II aluminum was more expensive per ounce than gold
I know that was true when it was first discovered, I'll have to take your word on that when it comes to WW2. At least keep it in the back of my mind.
No, the price of aluminum was not greater than US $35 an ounce during WW2. In the 1800s, when aluminum was first discovered it was very expensive, but long before 1900, cheaper ways of making it were developed.
You must not have been on the west coast they've got wire platinum its short and looks like pencil lead that's broken off. I see plenty in various locations but not strong. Trinity River area and west of the river has jade everywhere there's a exelent rare earth place with alot of gold and platinum. I used to rub the green jade off to expose the nugget it happened that I found a nugget that appeared like the walking lady liberty I pulled it up and it was platinum it was the very best piece of jade I worked upon my personal favorite. I literally gave it away even knowing what it was and had offers from alot of jewlers. I gave it away for 6.00 to a engineer that used to work with my dad in Los Angeles . I wanted him to have a high regaurd for me and he didn't have a clue what I sold him .The piece was to fit a dollar buckle and the nugget covered the face it looked like the lady liberty. I had all kinds of offers from people but in the end I did what felt right to me. Jades suppose to be given away it brings luck . That's what I did wait till he figures out what I gave him it was so cool he thought it was fake.
Lived on the west coast all my life and prospected Trinity and Klamath counties.