Shimano Disc Brake Pad Alternatives. What Else Can You Fit? - Road Bike Maintenance
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, I take a look at the alternative brake pads that are available for Shimano road groupsets.
In the past 3 years, we’ve struggled to obtain Shimano stock, and brake pads are no exception. So, I take a look at what alternative pads are available, and how they compare to the Shimano stock pads
Gorilla Shimano Pads:
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Noah & Theo Shimano Pads:
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Shimano Finned L05 Brake Pads:
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Shimano Non-Finned Brake Pads:
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I have been using Gorilla pads since 8/2021 (around 15,000 miles now) and my experience is as yours. 100% agree with you about price and the Shimano cooling fins being unnecessary. I find they last much longer than the Shimano equivalents. The ones I use are for: Shimano Dura Ace BR-R9170 Ultegra BR-R8070 BR-RS805 BR-RS505 BR-RS405 BR-RS305 L02A - Enduro kevlar. Great videos - thanks.
Audio 10/10 ✅
Thanks Ian 👍
Audio great 👍. I’ve been using a different brand to Shimano at about a third of the price. Will foreward the brand when I can. Good content. Cheers
Thanks for confirming, Andrew. Yeah, alternative brands are the way forward for me. Yeah, let us all know what you're using, it's always good to know.
Thanks,
Jon
Thanks for this its, the struggle is real trying to buy new pads. Great vid
Thanks, Cam, glad you found it useful
audio is great. try asking viewers to turn up the volume on their devices
The sound level of your video is good. I have tried various brands of the M525 or BS 01 pad and found the Shimano to be less effective than my preferred brands which are Tektro and Aztec
Thanks, Alan. I must admit, I've never tried Aztec pads.
As a professional mechanic, I've fitted a lot of Clarks pads, as well as some Elvedes and Raleigh XLC (before they left the parts market).
Elvedes...... The massive cycle parts manufacturer that the average cyclist has never heard of!!!!
Very happy with Nothing & Theo ceramic. Volume is fine.
Agreed, N&H do some great brakes. Thanks for the audio feedback 👍
I just purchased some ceramic Bucklos pads from AliExpress. I'm going to give them a try them on my Shimano M7100s. I'm currently using Shimano J04C metallic pads and bought another two pairs of those for only $13.00 a pair. The Bucklos pads were $3.71 a pair and I bought 4 pairs of them.
Audio is great, video is great too!
Paid £35 for a pair off ebay recently, I think its peace of mind really, if ive spent a stack on Dura Ace Groupset I want everything working optimally so thats my mindset...if there is something like-for-like that wont mess up my discs or induce risk of failure then i'm all for it, saving money short term is good but if its a cost > value mentality then its not really worth it in the long run. Nice to know there are alternatives tho, cheers!
I've replaced Dura Ace stuff with SwissStop products in the past which have been really good so i'd be interested to know what their disc pads are like.
See you round the valley quite a bit by the way, I live in Alston, just past Longridge so its great to see another Valley rider putting out great content, good stuff Jon!
Hi Nosh,
I know what you mean, buying pads from the smaller unknown brands can be worrying, especially when, like yourself, you're running Dura Ace. I think it'd be worth keeping a set of Shimano K05s non-finned pads in stock, they're a genuine Shimano pad with the same compound as the L05, but just don't have the fins. You can pick those up really easy, most places have them in stock for £10.
Never tried SwissStop for disc, used them for years on my rim bikes, a good product. The disc pads do seem to get some good reviews, not cheap though!!
Sad to report that I've only just moved out of the Ribble Valley. Now on the edge of The Peaks. It's not bad, but it's not The Ribble Valley 😐. Have kept Ribble Valley Cyclist as the channel name, because I'm not sure what else to call it!!
Thanks for getting in touch, good to hear from a fellow RV rider 👍
Jon
@@ribblevalleycyclist Yeah, always loved the SwissStop stuff but again, pricey like you say, comparable to the DA stuff really so a decent switch when the Shimano well runs dry...as it regularly does!
Ah, sad to hear you've left the area, Peaks is nice tho, not been round there for a while, got some cracking climbs around there, a lot of hidden gems aswell! Only just started back on the bike the past 2 weeks after 5 months out to be honest, managed to avoid covid till last Oct and was really ill with it, decimated my fitness for months...even now i'm only about 30% and crawling along.. not good, either that or the mid 40s are really taking hold!!
Safe riding anyways Jon. Keep up the good work!
That's if you can find Genuine pads these days! I'm looking for XT pads just now they all seem non Genuine so don't know what to do just now.
I've been wondering about finned vs non finned pads myself. Mostly because I ride in hilly hong kong, where it's quite a bit warmer than the UK. Summer daytime temps can be 30-35c.
atm in australia $15AUD a pair (B05), lasting 1500km on my escooter, still plenty of life left vs orginial pads, only lasted 1200km
I heard you fine in Phoenix Arizona Bud!!
Another great video
Great video and sound is perfect (I love the YT Algorithm throwing your video up to me. Today I did a quick service and couldn't remove the retaining pin from my Shimano R8070. total disaster with the flat head screw which disintegrated. Managed to drill this out, but now there is no thread. Good job I did as the L03a pods had worn down to nothing. Mind you I've had the Orbea M20 for 3 years now, so good going?
Algorithms aside and looking at the process now, Halfords are doing the L05a for £19 and the pads without the fins £10 at my local JE James.
Hi Again Ranx, JE James...... The chap that runs that place used to be a customer of mine...... but I can't remember his name...... Age for you!! Nice price on the pads. If your discs are compatible, sintered brake pads are worth a look too, because they last a lot longer..... noisy in the wet though!
2 pair Corki semi metallic 10.99 Amazon. Work well on my BMC fourstroke SLX calipers. Took about 2 hours of riding before they felt right though.
Top Tip!!!! Thanks, Rickysee
The fins might be needed for MTB. I have a set of SLX brakes with the fins that are now 7 seasons and going. This is the longest i have ever run a brake pad. The bike is 2007.
There is also Shimano alternatives such as the K pad which I use - check the Shimano compatibility chart
Think I said that at roughly @11:00
Thanks for this!
Sound is very good!
Thanks, yvesn58
Late to the party but I think the audio volume is fine.
It's always the cool ones that are late to the party, Colin!!
Mic sounds great!
Thanks, Rickysee. Really pleased with the outcome. Has made a huge improvement.... and it's a lot easier to use too!
Excellent info !
Hi Alan,
Glad it was helpful! All about sharing the knowledge. Thanks for watching 👍
Jon
The Shimano pads are probably the best compound and avoid wearing/gouging your discs.
The heat sinks are only present to reduce disc temperature in loooooonng descents. The same pad can be bought without heat sink for under half the price (as you correctly point out).
I can confirm these are exactly the same as the finned ones.
A lot of the third party pads, in my experience either provide poor performance/wear life in resin form…or sneakily add metallic content to make their pads perform better - thus shagging your discs.
Hi Dominic,
You make a fair point.
Been running disc for about 4 years now, on 3 bikes. I’ve tried various brands of pads with various compounds. I’ve also tried a few different rotor brands too. If I’m being totally honest, the only real difference I’ve even noticed is the squeal variation!! You may well be right, the cheaper pads may wear my rotors quicker. But then I suppose there is also the argument that cheap pads are a third of the price of posh Shimano ones, and new posh Shimano rotors are the price of two pairs of posh Shimano branded pads!! I suppose it boils down to miles per £/$/€….. Which I’m not even gonna try and work out😂
Thanks for watching, mate.
Jon
@@ribblevalleycyclist fully agree Jon 👍
I believe nutt brake pads work too .
Thanks, Will look them up.
Didn't PT come to the same conclusion regarding hest sinks on the Shimano pads. I use Noah and Theo ceramic pads on my Ultegra brakes. Of course the pads and rotors wear. And since the rotors are much more expensive. You want the pads to be more sympathetic to that
Hi Paul,
PT..... You know what, I'm not sure. I know he's done a few videos on pad advice..... and a few rants too!!!!
Noah and Theo is a good product, and I think that Shimano can learn a thing or two on pricing from them.
Thanks for watching,
Jon
LO5A suck and killed my Icetech rotors prematurely, with grabbing and squealing. The LO4A's were always quiet, great modulation and I think prolonged my rotor life. Shimano is scamming us all.
uber bike pad are good so are disco brakes might have to look at gorilla
Gorilla is great. They've just sent me their new NRS ONE pads..... look very strange. Looking forward to testing them out.
I just ordered a set the Gorilla NRS Ones for my SRAM Force AXS brakes. I have not been impressed with the stock pads that come with them at all.
Compatibility is so confusing! I just got some new pads today and went for the standard Shimano because ordering online is a pain.
Audio seems fine
Thanks Gaz. Just listened back and yeah, it's better. Not sure about the glare off my head from the light above though..... not sure I can buy my way out of that problem 😂
@@ribblevalleycyclist there's always a hat 🤣😂😅
Great video ❤
Audio is fine for me
Thanks 👍
I use pads from decathlon, but they don’t seem to last long and are scintered. I prefer resin
I must admit, I'm with you, resin just has a nicer feel to it. Sintered can be a bit 'All or nothing', whereas I find resin give you a bit more control....... Just a shame they don't last UK winters 😐
Enjoy your videos btw 👍
Thanks Dominic, appreciate the feedback.
Good video!
I’m across the pond in Louisiana. Following you after viewing your winter kit videos and Alpha Ros2 review.
You should do a video on Disc Brake maintenance.. I’m about to buy my forst bike ever with Disc Brakes. Have avoided doing so for years, but the bike I really want has no other brake options.
How often should brake fluid be bled and or replaced? How is it done? What tools are required? Thanks!
David
Broussard Louisiana
Hi again David,
Yeah, I remember us having a chat about the Alpha RoS.
Disc is good, a little frustrating at times, but the positives outweigh the negatives...... just! It's especially good for winter use.
Yeah, I've considered both a bleed and a general maintenance video, I'm sure I'll get one of them done soon enough. In the meantime, the number 1 tip, don't get oil on them and get some disc cleaning spray!!
The general rule with fluid replacement is to replace when the brakes feel spongy. If I'm honest, I've not replaced the fluid in my summer bike ever, and it's on over 7k miles now....... probably should do it, as they're a bit spongy!!
Good advice.. it’s the same as on a car. Same exact functioning. Keeping the disc clean is critical.
I guarantee next the next thing bug thing on bikes will be ABS. Weve already got an electrical circuit available due to batteries .. all thats left will be a control module. Lol. Just you wait… it’ll happen.
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree about the pricing information. Maybe it was correct at the time you made this video. I have been buying Shimano B01S pads for years. I have recently become aware that Shimano recommends B03S and B05S for the upgraded pad materials but which are physically identical to the B01S. Gorilla offers alternatives to the B01S and B03S for AUD 32 and AUD 42 respectively, not counting delivery. Yet Amazon sells the B05S for AUD 25 and free delivery (with Prime). I don't know anything about the materials and whether these make any difference. But it does seem I can get the latest genuine Shimano product, delivered, for less than the off-brand part delivered. Gorilla doesn't offer any price advantage at all.
Does it matter for road pads whether they're resin, semi metallic, or metallic? I'm using SwissStop Catalyst rotors if that makes any difference
Resin/Organic - A great all-rounder that performs well in all weather conditions. The softer pad also offers a more even braking performance. Resin tends to come in a little cheaper, but will wear faster when compared to performance alternatives. Resin is kinder to the rotor, and is less prone to making noise in the wet.
Sintered/Metallic - Sintered pads are known for their exceptional durability and heat resistance, making them the choice for downhill and extreme cycling. Sintered will last longer and out-perform a resin pad. Sintered pads can last unto 3 times longer than resin. The braking performance increase is noticeable. The downside to sintered is increased wear to the rotors, they’re more expensive, and are noisy in wet/damp conditions. Some manufactures claim their sintered pads have special ingredients that stop winter noise…… I’ve not found that this works.
As an FYI, I prefer the softer quieter braking performance that the resin pad gives, so that is what I use.
SwissStop Catalyst rotors are compatible with both sintered and resin pad compounds
Hope this helps.
Jon
Excellent! Thanks Jon
I found a LBS sells a 4 pack of L05 that don't have the retail packaging and I can save about 30%
Supporting the LBS and getting a bargain…… Nice one 👍
@@WowRixterThe shop I used to work in, two such pads without the retail packaging were sold beyond their RRP. Anytime I'm buying Shimano parts, I don't buy from this shop despite being an employee there.
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree about the pricing information. Maybe it was correct at the time you made this video. I have been buying Shimano B01S pads for years. I have recently become aware that Shimano recommends B03S and B05S for the upgraded pad materials but which are physically identical to the B01S. Gorilla offers alternatives to the B01S and B03S for AUD 32 (resin version), delivery extra ($21). Yet Amazon sells the B01S and B05S both for AUD 25 and free delivery (with Prime). I don't know anything about the materials and whether these make any difference. But it does seem I can get the latest genuine Shimano product, delivered, for less than the off-brand part. Maybe it's different for the high-end models, but in this case Gorilla doesn't offer any price advantage at all and is worse.
Hi,
I didn’t actually mention the BO range in this video. My understanding is they’re mainly found in MTB setups. I was talking about the LO and KO range, which are usually found on road/gravel bikes. I’ve checked the prices again on both LO & KO, its still the same.
Thanks,
Jon
Nothing wrong with gorilla pads I suppose you could have used one shimano and one gorilla pad on each side for a comparison just saying
how about some cheapest chinese brake pads ?
I have Semi metalic pads from brand called DUST. There great. Thinking of ordering 5 pairs for 10 euros.
@@dashofawesome64 ok noted
Volume was SUPER loud on this video.
Thanks for confirming, Samuel 👍
I love being the first commentor!
Comment to follow. :)
First comment award goes to Dsonyay 🏆🥇😂
your mic is ok but please try to speak less. try to cut the blog talk and focus on the topic