Did anyone, at the time, think it was a bad idea to bring in Ashworth? No, and same goes for Wilcox, Berrada, Vivell.... They were all considered best in class. It has turned out, though, that Ratcliffe and the top brass have been underwhelmed by Ashworth's performance and, as in most businesses, underperformers have to be replaced.
I wasn’t sold on Ineos or Sir Jim, so wasn’t asked. I’ve read about how they have handled Nice, the cycling team and the suv company and it’s no shock at how they do things. Right or wrong is yet to be seen, but based on history, they can’t speak success into existence, and they seem to play a misdirection game everywhere they go, purchase established entities and do not reach sustained success in any of it.
Ineos are bluffers on a worse scale than the glazers. Anyone who did their own research out of these echo chamber fan channels knew Ratcliffe is bad news. He's a thatcherite ffs
On the ‘pricing out working class’ point, I’ve been priced out for years. Haven’t been able to afford buying a ticket directly since I stopped being a junior member. It’s been a middle class and up game since I’ve been watching unfortunately, but a by-product of this - my local team have been getting record attendances recently. People picking non-league over premier league, most notably loads more kids (United and City tops)
Ineos have made some major mistakes so far. Keeping Ten Hag after the FA cup win, only to sack him after a summer spending spree. Bringing in a sporting director at a huge cost, only to sack him a few months later. An absolutely bizarre hike in prices for match going fans, including children, alienating the youth from Old Trafford. And laying off over two hundred staff dropping the moral to rock bottom. Hardly an auspicious start.
Lads open heart surgerie isn't about getting rid of only fringe players. It's mainly about getting rid of our so called best players who have the most influence on the pitch and in the dressing room. These are the players that will lead us out of our current situation. Solid, Tough, Consistent performers and not the occasionally spectacular we currently have as our best players.
Of course, some ruthlessness is needed in certain situations but football isn’t like your average business because of the fans the fact that clubs are ingrained in communities and people. Therefore, all sentimentality can never be removed from football.
Laying off people and cutting funding for disabled fans to get a couple of grand here and there but wasting 10s and millions on Ten Haag’s sacking and Ashworth is a disgrace
For me Rashford and Bruno deserve to win a title at this club despite some fans hatred of them they have been the 2 players that have contributed the most goals and assists over the time they’ve been here under different managers with different styles of play I hope Amorim finds a way to get the best out of both of them
If both are sold and replaced by lesser but hard working players who finally win the league title for Manchester United will I be pissed ? No coz they know nothing will happen to them despite being bang average, Bruno disappears against the big teams, Rashford behaves like he is Mr Manchester United plays when he wants to.
If both are sold and replaced by lesser but hard working players who finally win the league title for Manchester United will I be pissed ? No coz they know nothing will happen to them despite being bang average, Bruno disappears against the big teams, Rashford behaves like he is Mr Manchester United plays when he wants to. Times up to save their careers it’s now or never.
Bruno going missing against the big teams is such a myth he’s got several goals and assists against every one of them. He scored vs Liverpool from halfway line & set up the winning goal in an fa cup final vs city ffs🤣
They are much more part of the problem than the solution. Bruno will impress with his work rate while taking the ball off his teammates to spray wayward passes and blame others. Not captain material. Rashford will do the opposite effort wise and blame himself going into a shell. These two have seen coaches come and go while keeping their roles. The harsh reality is they lack the proper mentality to lead.
Pattern: Ronaldo gets half way through a thought, one of the other lads goes to interrupt him, he speaks faster and louder and rushes through what he says then the others respond with something like yeah that's a good point. a) Let him finish. b) talk faster my man!
These things happen in business , relationships crumble , agendas change , systems don’t suit certain people it’s obviously not ideal . But one thing that isn’t going to change is on the pitch 300k a week for the likes of rashford Casemiro 200k a week for Antony some of the best payed players in the league and in Europe poor attitudes and underwhelming performances season in season out. No one else would pay the wages for those standard of players and that sums it up we wonder why there are no leaders in the club how can anyone talk down to players who are underperforming but on x3/x4 the wage the club is broken and has been for years nothing changes till these overpaid underperforming premadonnas are either sold or like arsenal did with ozil aubameyang etc rip up the contracts and take the loss
Can't believe that they've cancelled the Christmas party for the remaining staff! Pennies compared to players' wages. Such a stupid move in any company.
Even worse the employees xmas bonuses have been cut from £100 to £60 or so. It's penny pinching at its worst and I understand the players still get there xmas party. What a smack in the face is that to the employee. I hope the players think about subsidizing the employees xmas bonus at least.
How dare Jim Ratcliffe heap more pain & suffering on the club and its fans, when the Qatari alternative would've literally given us the opposite! It's as if he just wanted in on the scam the Glazers have been running on the fans all these years 🤬
I live in Alabama in the states and if I want to go to an Alabama football game it’s roughly $300 a ticket. I’m so envious of ticket prices overseas. Just a little perspective from an American
I wonder if we had won all 5 games under Amorim would Ineos be getting such stick for their decisions? I suspect not. Lets face it, things wont get better on the pitch this season, Ineos will continue to get stick and we will be back to hearing fully grown men screaming 'Amorim out' in 6 months. Fans havent got the stomach to wait this out.
Ever been to Oxford? The housing prices there are insane, to the point where most of the locals have moved away. And the wages are lower than London there.
True points, but because property is higher, cost of admission should reflect that increase Hence why pints bought in pubs are on average more expensive in London
Not true anymore, this is the scary thing. House prices are catching London albeit still behind but wages aren't increasing up here either...highest amount of food banks are in the North West
Don’t call it too early. Took Chelsea 2 seasons of constant change to start to get it right. Will be able to judge INEOS better in 12 months time after 2 windows for Amorim and the embedding of his methods of play, acquisition of new players and higher fitness levels. Rome wasn’t built in a day. Nor will United be resurrected over in a matter of weeks…
What I think is that United as a club has to change the narrative around the club, we need to be strong and mentally block out the crap in the press or noise from players who think everything they did was 100% correct. You can’t find at any video with out a heading that speaks to Armageddon at united. Or fans and pundits calling players trash. I’m saying this because the negativity is keeping us in the mud, players seem so scared to make a mistake so they play within themselves. I know people say but they getting paid millions a year and you are right but even so they human and humans can be fallible at times. I just think if we as a club and fans can build a wall around our players and give them the confidence knowing that we are going to defend them. Like what we did for Cantona, Rio, Ronaldo . If we can do that then maybe half the battle is won. Before you guys troll me 🤣 please just read to understand I’m not saying our players are above criticism I’m saying we can criticise them but when others attack us we band together.
It completely wrong to say INEOS are only laying people off and increasing prices because of the Glazers debt. If you look at their whole history, asset stripping and price gouging are Radcliffes MO.
How about playing Martinez in the pivot with Ugarte that midfield will have plenty of bite he would collect the ball well off the cb's he carries the ball well and is good with his progressive passes which will be good for Rasmus running the channels
When you consider ticket prices some of the clubs which charge more than United they don't have the seating capacity of United of over 75,000 wasn't it Sir Alan Sugar who said sell it cheap pile it high so cheaper tickets ensure capacity sell out every game and if a new stadium is built what will the ticket price hike be because the seating capacity will go up to me 100,000 isn't enough should be 125,000 and keep ticket prices lower as United will fill those seats
Football can't be a working class sport when it comes to ticket pricing, but a global sport when it comes to buying 100 million footballers. It's a conundrum, but one that needs acknowledging. To quote a certain famous philosopher by the name of Slim Charles ; "The thing about the ol' days..they the old days". The club has been in absolute shambles for a decade now. We've begged for "football people" to be calling the shots. We've screamed for ruthlessness by the decision makers in setting things right. Maybe this is what that looks like.
Joe to analyse..what. sometimes you buy something and it doesn't fit ....happens. don't keep it because of price....wrong on top four,trophies and rashford. Ugarte reminds me of " robbo" all action my player of the season fills lapses in defence,midfield and finds targets best players for awhile know " no one talks about vulnerable centre " wonder why.....eh.
It's been well over a decade, mate. Fans are frustrated. Manager after manager. Next "big player" after next. New owners. Poor upkeep of facilities. Unbelievable debt. Poor attitude of players sitting on millions of pounds a year. A sour culture rotting through the club. We are quite right to be impatient at this stage.
I enjoyed the time when all I cared about was the football on the pitch, all this board room, back room etc was so non existent in the spectacle of football. Times have changed. The theatre of dreams has become the theatre of theatre. I wish this club finds a way to give back joy to its supporters as it once did.
I will say if we chose to appoint Amorim without the agreement of Ashworth, then we have began the DOF system wrongly. What is the point of a DOF if his say so isnt considered. Too many cooks and lots of people trying to kiss Emperor (Ratcliffe's) cheeks.
It’s the players…well a majority of them. How Marcus Rashford is still playing for us I will never know. Most of Ten Hags signings have been piss poor with Anthony being the worst. It’s too early to blame Ineos but there is a major clear out still needed for this club to have a chance. Roy Keane was 100% correct when he said this team is average and you only have to look at the league table to know he’s correct. Too many big egos and ridiculous salaries are being paid to these players and in my opinion a lot of them are just happy to pick up the pay check and not give their all for the club.
Marcus Rashford has the most G/A for the last 4 managers that United have had. Besides Bruno, he’s literally been your best player over the last 8 years.
London has some of the highest rates of poverty in the UK, including in Islington around Arsenal's ground. Have you ever been to the Holloway Road etc?
@@Andrew-xs1sg Yeh I know. I'm just saying that sky high tickets at London clubs will also price out lots of the local fans there, as it does elsewhere.
EtH was the best thing to happen to Utd in a decade and you sent him off with £17m of your own money. Now INEOS making fans pay for their mistakes! EtH has already beaten Amorin... twice!@@joetownsend8305
R.I.P Kath she seemed like the nana of manchester united,the old players would of made sure they got that win against forest.These players look like they dont give a toss about the history of this club its sad.
Garnacho needs to stop fucking liking dodgy streets about his teammates and managers. Imagine if Rashford or Pogba kept doing that. He’s done nothing in the grand scheme for this club.
This guy has to go! Keeping ericksen and selling mctominay, Keeping lindelof and selling Aaron van bisssaka ! He has to go! I don't care! Keeping casemiro and selling amrabat! No he has go! They're killing man utd!
Get ready if Ashworth was a shock , Amorim will quit next year after working with a bunch of Muppets who know nowt about Football, Ratcliffe wouldnt know who scored in the Fa Cup Final in 1983 Replay , hes a much a Utd fan as Carragher, he wanted Chelsea first remember, shame he didn't get them. We are the worst run club in the Premier League fact , theres no fight , no spirit, no morals in the club anymore. Ive been down since Saturday because apart from my family, Utd come second, yeh sad maybe but i wish half our team thought the same way. Gary Neville, Roy Keane and Paul Scholes look more upset than the players when we lose ........nuff said .😡😡😡
How people were surprised actually surprises me, With all them massive ego's in that boardroom things like this always happen in any business, He obviously wasn't a yes man and on the outside of the inios click
Think ratcliffe had to sack him as he hired him , barada will employ and sack the next ... reason for sacking he fell out with barada and we know who won
If you've ever been in senior management at work you will know there is a shit ton of information that doesn't get filtered down to the public for obvious reasons...Don't jump to conclusions on INEOS just yet
Thing is qatar said they would clear the debt. We pay 100m every year on the debt. If sir Jim would be as generous as the qataries said they would be then we didn't need to make all these cuts and save 4m a year. Because if we clear the debt 70 to 100m depending on Intrest rates is saved every year. Sir Jim is scum
And you gullible deluded utd supporters were knocking one out when Radcliffe came and the only reason he did was because he lost out in buying Chelsea ffs
SJR is getting a lot of stick but if people were getting paid to work from home and do jobs that were required no wonder they all loved the glazers they had no one keeping a eye on things. So I’m happy he’s being proactive he’s not afraid to kick the can down the road with a wrong appointment like with ashworth he just wants to do what’s right for club!
£66 a ticket it's costing £500 plus from where I live you can't get a ticket for £66 are you mental that's a bargain from here. You can never find a cheap ticket for Man utd how is it £66 lol 🤣
Glazers...Ineos...whoever...know that football is all many many people have....know people will somehow find the money to get to their beloved games. The Glazers raising ticket prices are one thing...but to come from a supposed 'Manchester lad who is proud of his working class roots'...is sickening. Ratcliffe is looking worse with each passing week.
Sorry Joe but your talking shit we still have so many players we need to get rid of Rashford,Erikson,Maguire,Shaw I'd question Bruno sometimes aswell we need to really think about who to bring in Jan a striker is a must
I don’t care how many other people keep saying what a travesty it is that ticket prices have gone up, I still can’t get over how f***ing cheap tickets are over there. Try supporting a major team in a major sport in the US, and have your eyes opened.
No there not failing stop inciting impatience from the fans with these stupid headlines. Just chill out. It’s not worth asking the question your only doing it to boost your engagement and pockets
they know more than u do. the main thing there doing is getting handle on wages an overall spend. negotiating things were a joke before. apart from that seems fine
I wish Qatar would have naught us, they’d have just got best in class across the board, been able to afford offload expensive players. And most importantly put profit back into the club, not on interest payments and dividends. Glazers ruined this club
I’m just concerned about the pattern of Ineos, and the pattern is repeating itself, which will not rebuild this car crash of a club in a way to achieve sustainable success.
Did anyone, at the time, think it was a bad idea to bring in Ashworth? No, and same goes for Wilcox, Berrada, Vivell.... They were all considered best in class. It has turned out, though, that Ratcliffe and the top brass have been underwhelmed by Ashworth's performance and, as in most businesses, underperformers have to be replaced.
Simple as that.
I just regret we can't do the same with players
I wasn’t sold on Ineos or Sir Jim, so wasn’t asked. I’ve read about how they have handled Nice, the cycling team and the suv company and it’s no shock at how they do things. Right or wrong is yet to be seen, but based on history, they can’t speak success into existence, and they seem to play a misdirection game everywhere they go, purchase established entities and do not reach sustained success in any of it.
It's not about thinking back and wondering if his reputation was what required. It's the very public process to hire him, that was clearly wrong
I really am hoping that's the case
Ineos are bluffers on a worse scale than the glazers. Anyone who did their own research out of these echo chamber fan channels knew Ratcliffe is bad news. He's a thatcherite ffs
On the ‘pricing out working class’ point, I’ve been priced out for years. Haven’t been able to afford buying a ticket directly since I stopped being a junior member. It’s been a middle class and up game since I’ve been watching unfortunately, but a by-product of this - my local team have been getting record attendances recently. People picking non-league over premier league, most notably loads more kids (United and City tops)
Ineos have made some major mistakes so far. Keeping Ten Hag after the FA cup win, only to sack him after a summer spending spree.
Bringing in a sporting director at a huge cost, only to sack him a few months later.
An absolutely bizarre hike in prices for match going fans, including children, alienating the youth from Old Trafford.
And laying off over two hundred staff dropping the moral to rock bottom.
Hardly an auspicious start.
Lads open heart surgerie isn't about getting rid of only fringe players. It's mainly about getting rid of our so called best players who have the most influence on the pitch and in the dressing room. These are the players that will lead us out of our current situation. Solid, Tough, Consistent performers and not the occasionally spectacular we currently have as our best players.
I’m ok with Ineos being ruthless. Until we get back to the top, there’s no room for sentimentality.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
Of course, some ruthlessness is needed in certain situations but football isn’t like your average business because of the fans the fact that clubs are ingrained in communities and people. Therefore, all sentimentality can never be removed from football.
dont confuse ruthlessness with incompetence.
It’s not ruthlessness is stupidity. They employed this guy 5 months ago.
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The outsourcing data thing is so funny. It's kinda like sacking Amorim for refusing to drive the team bus.
Laying off people and cutting funding for disabled fans to get a couple of grand here and there but wasting 10s and millions on Ten Haag’s sacking and Ashworth is a disgrace
What a cracking article,well thought out,and very well delivered 🌟good bit of journalism and seems very believable 👌
For me Rashford and Bruno deserve to win a title at this club despite some fans hatred of them they have been the 2 players that have contributed the most goals and assists over the time they’ve been here under different managers with different styles of play I hope Amorim finds a way to get the best out of both of them
If both are sold and replaced by lesser but hard working players who finally win the league title for Manchester United will I be pissed ? No coz they know nothing will happen to them despite being bang average, Bruno disappears against the big teams, Rashford behaves like he is Mr Manchester United plays when he wants to.
If both are sold and replaced by lesser but hard working players who finally win the league title for Manchester United will I be pissed ? No coz they know nothing will happen to them despite being bang average, Bruno disappears against the big teams, Rashford behaves like he is Mr Manchester United plays when he wants to. Times up to save their careers it’s now or never.
Bruno going missing against the big teams is such a myth he’s got several goals and assists against every one of them. He scored vs Liverpool from halfway line & set up the winning goal in an fa cup final vs city ffs🤣
The problem with Rashy is that he's not playing like he wants to win a title. They should be the first ones to want the titles.
They are much more part of the problem than the solution. Bruno will impress with his work rate while taking the ball off his teammates to spray wayward passes and blame others. Not captain material. Rashford will do the opposite effort wise and blame himself going into a shell. These two have seen coaches come and go while keeping their roles. The harsh reality is they lack the proper mentality to lead.
Pattern: Ronaldo gets half way through a thought, one of the other lads goes to interrupt him, he speaks faster and louder and rushes through what he says then the others respond with something like yeah that's a good point. a) Let him finish. b) talk faster my man!
Frustrating how only the players are given the longest ropes at this club when they are the biggest problem.
Should never have sent EtH away. Huge mistake.
Got my platinum 5.0 and Dome Shaver today. The one on my head is more prominent thanks to Manscaped. 😂
Down a shot every time Jay says "the optics".
These things happen in business , relationships crumble , agendas change , systems don’t suit certain people it’s obviously not ideal . But one thing that isn’t going to change is on the pitch 300k a week for the likes of rashford Casemiro 200k a week for Antony some of the best payed players in the league and in Europe poor attitudes and underwhelming performances season in season out. No one else would pay the wages for those standard of players and that sums it up we wonder why there are no leaders in the club how can anyone talk down to players who are underperforming but on x3/x4 the wage the club is broken and has been for years nothing changes till these overpaid underperforming premadonnas are either sold or like arsenal did with ozil aubameyang etc rip up the contracts and take the loss
Ashworth was an advocate for Southgate....that's enough for me to get rid
Really just hoping this is all short term pains for long term gains.
Nah they are broke and have no money and are awful owners with endless failure in sport
Can't believe that they've cancelled the Christmas party for the remaining staff! Pennies compared to players' wages. Such a stupid move in any company.
Even worse the employees xmas bonuses have been cut from £100 to £60 or so. It's penny pinching at its worst and I understand the players still get there xmas party. What a smack in the face is that to the employee.
I hope the players think about subsidizing the employees xmas bonus at least.
Good discussion and appreciate the wild speculation tbf. Shambles season so far indeed.
How dare Jim Ratcliffe heap more pain & suffering on the club and its fans, when the Qatari alternative would've literally given us the opposite! It's as if he just wanted in on the scam the Glazers have been running on the fans all these years 🤬
Dear lord
United fans NEED to stand up to these ticket prices. Lead the way. It’s time fans took the game back!
If you take inflation into account then a ticket that cost 40£ in 2014 costs 55 today!
I live in Alabama in the states and if I want to go to an Alabama football game it’s roughly $300 a ticket. I’m so envious of ticket prices overseas. Just a little perspective from an American
Unsettling stuff from Jay in the first 10 seconds there
I wonder if we had won all 5 games under Amorim would Ineos be getting such stick for their decisions? I suspect not.
Lets face it, things wont get better on the pitch this season, Ineos will continue to get stick and we will be back to hearing fully grown men screaming 'Amorim out' in 6 months.
Fans havent got the stomach to wait this out.
Your comment re wages in Fulham isn't correct. Wages in London are a bit higher, but rent/house prices are way way way higher in London.
Ever been to Oxford? The housing prices there are insane, to the point where most of the locals have moved away. And the wages are lower than London there.
True points, but because property is higher, cost of admission should reflect that increase
Hence why pints bought in pubs are on average more expensive in London
Not true anymore, this is the scary thing. House prices are catching London albeit still behind but wages aren't increasing up here either...highest amount of food banks are in the North West
@@andyp9203 so it’s still true then ?
Take the money off the underperforming stars rather than screwing the fans
Mina said on the United View that we went for open heart surgery and came out with a BBL and missing a kidney🤣🤣
Okay, that is pretty great.
Custis....that tool that got hammered by Ray Wilkins....never laughed so much ....😂😂😂
Anyone who wants southgate should be sacked lol
It stopped becoming a working class game when players wages hit the hundreds of thousands and an average signing for United cost 40mill.
just cost me $300 for two Boston Bruins tickets. They have no idea how good they have it..
Can we revisit season predictions.
Don’t call it too early. Took Chelsea 2 seasons of constant change to start to get it right. Will be able to judge INEOS better in 12 months time after 2 windows for Amorim and the embedding of his methods of play, acquisition of new players and higher fitness levels.
Rome wasn’t built in a day. Nor will United be resurrected over in a matter of weeks…
TH-camrs sat on the bones of their arse tell a billionaire how to run a business 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fulham charge more, Brighton charge more cos they've only got 20k seats! United have 77k
I agree with Ronaldo about the Glazers.
What I think is that United as a club has to change the narrative around the club, we need to be strong and mentally block out the crap in the press or noise from players who think everything they did was 100% correct.
You can’t find at any video with out a heading that speaks to Armageddon at united. Or fans and pundits calling players trash.
I’m saying this because the negativity is keeping us in the mud, players seem so scared to make a mistake so they play within themselves. I know people say but they getting paid millions a year and you are right but even so they human and humans can be fallible at times. I just think if we as a club and fans can build a wall around our players and give them the confidence knowing that we are going to defend them. Like what we did for Cantona, Rio, Ronaldo . If we can do that then maybe half the battle is won.
Before you guys troll me 🤣 please just read to understand I’m not saying our players are above criticism I’m saying we can criticise them but when others attack us we band together.
It completely wrong to say INEOS are only laying people off and increasing prices because of the Glazers debt. If you look at their whole history, asset stripping and price gouging are Radcliffes MO.
I reckon Ineos will sell us within 5 years.
Ratcliffe could've kept prices down if he'd have got a manscaped partnership
Made the correct decision, doesn't work out on your way ,now do the same with most of the players ,never challenge otherwise.
How about playing Martinez in the pivot with Ugarte that midfield will have plenty of bite he would collect the ball well off the cb's he carries the ball well and is good with his progressive passes which will be good for Rasmus running the channels
That's where he played at Ajax under...EtH.
He the most overrated defender in the pship he's been at fault for more goals than harry Maguire and this will be his final year at utd
You get what you get when you appoint someone who has no idea about football to a football club
I'm wondering, Do they Know it's Christmas Time at all? 🤔. 🔴❤️.
When you consider ticket prices some of the clubs which charge more than United they don't have the seating capacity of United of over 75,000 wasn't it Sir Alan Sugar who said sell it cheap pile it high so cheaper tickets ensure capacity sell out every game and if a new stadium is built what will the ticket price hike be because the seating capacity will go up to me 100,000 isn't enough should be 125,000 and keep ticket prices lower as United will fill those seats
Football can't be a working class sport when it comes to ticket pricing, but a global sport when it comes to buying 100 million footballers. It's a conundrum, but one that needs acknowledging. To quote a certain famous philosopher by the name of Slim Charles ; "The thing about the ol' days..they the old days".
The club has been in absolute shambles for a decade now. We've begged for "football people" to be calling the shots. We've screamed for ruthlessness by the decision makers in setting things right. Maybe this is what that looks like.
Awful owners that will be the final nail in the coffin
I don't see losing ashworth as something bad... if anything i would fire him myself for suggesting Potter, Southgate or Howe
Joe to analyse..what. sometimes you buy something and it doesn't fit ....happens. don't keep it because of price....wrong on top four,trophies and rashford. Ugarte reminds me of " robbo" all action my player of the season fills lapses in defence,midfield and finds targets best players for awhile know " no one talks about vulnerable centre " wonder why.....eh.
This fan base has not got the patience for a rebuild
It's been well over a decade, mate. Fans are frustrated. Manager after manager. Next "big player" after next. New owners. Poor upkeep of facilities. Unbelievable debt. Poor attitude of players sitting on millions of pounds a year. A sour culture rotting through the club.
We are quite right to be impatient at this stage.
Weve got too many Marque players to get rid of 😂😂😂😂
£100mil in severence payments
Yes and I’m not suprised. The awful penny pinchers
I enjoyed the time when all I cared about was the football on the pitch, all this board room, back room etc was so non existent in the spectacle of football. Times have changed. The theatre of dreams has become the theatre of theatre. I wish this club finds a way to give back joy to its supporters as it once did.
I will say if we chose to appoint Amorim without the agreement of Ashworth, then we have began the DOF system wrongly. What is the point of a DOF if his say so isnt considered. Too many cooks and lots of people trying to kiss Emperor (Ratcliffe's) cheeks.
It’s the players…well a majority of them. How Marcus Rashford is still playing for us I will never know. Most of Ten Hags signings have been piss poor with Anthony being the worst. It’s too early to blame Ineos but there is a major clear out still needed for this club to have a chance. Roy Keane was 100% correct when he said this team is average and you only have to look at the league table to know he’s correct. Too many big egos and ridiculous salaries are being paid to these players and in my opinion a lot of them are just happy to pick up the pay check and not give their all for the club.
Anthony hardly plays but United is still crap
Marcus Rashford has the most G/A for the last 4 managers that United have had. Besides Bruno, he’s literally been your best player over the last 8 years.
Rashford, the most unprofessional and unbothered player in the team, needs to be first out of the door for the team to have any chance of progressing
Yeah, the players hired and fired the Director of Football. Definitely not a braindead take.
London has some of the highest rates of poverty in the UK, including in Islington around Arsenal's ground. Have you ever been to the Holloway Road etc?
Ever been to Blackpool or multiple places across the UK that are not getting higher school/transport subsidies?
@@Andrew-xs1sg Yeh I know. I'm just saying that sky high tickets at London clubs will also price out lots of the local fans there, as it does elsewhere.
Getting fired with your family in presence is really cold, could they not wait until monday
Caught taking backhand commisions on zirkee deal from his agent… thats why escorted off premises
0:21 no
Said it wasn’t Ten Hag.
Both can be true. The players aren’t good enough and neither was ten Haag.
EtH was the best thing to happen to Utd in a decade and you sent him off with £17m of your own money. Now INEOS making fans pay for their mistakes! EtH has already beaten Amorin... twice!@@joetownsend8305
Would Ashworth have been on his probation period? I.e. no pay off until 6 months?
Bring van der saar⚡💪
If Ashworth was looking to appoint Southgate he should be sacked anyways
well all respect if he was the one pushing for Gareth OMG God help us thats why they been waiting to get something on him to say Tara to him
He has 100 said something after the loss which is why he got sacked. Like mark said you don’t sack a dude at 9pm. Got pissed up and fell out lol
Bring on Paul Mitchell
He went Newcastle
Maybe he had that holiday booked for ages
Radcliffe getting schooled by the GLAZERS hes clueless
R.I.P Kath she seemed like the nana of manchester united,the old players would of made sure they got that win against forest.These players look like they dont give a toss about the history of this club its sad.
Ineos kept the Glazers at our club shame on them for that
Ashworth wanting Eddie Howe .. Wauw incredible insight.. Glad hes gone
Man United has become more of a commercial club.Please INEOS leave us alone
Jim is a BILLIONAIRE and can’t afford to give his staff a Christmas party or give them a Christmas bonus- makes me sick!!! 🤢
Garnacho needs to stop fucking liking dodgy streets about his teammates and managers. Imagine if Rashford or Pogba kept doing that. He’s done nothing in the grand scheme for this club.
I see Ronaldo “in terms of” Brown and switch off, talks utter garbage and thinks he knows everything. Bellend.
What did he say that’s utter garbage?
This guy has to go! Keeping ericksen and selling mctominay, Keeping lindelof and selling Aaron van bisssaka ! He has to go! I don't care! Keeping casemiro and selling amrabat! No he has go! They're killing man utd!
Get ready if Ashworth was a shock , Amorim will quit next year after working with a bunch of Muppets who know nowt about Football, Ratcliffe wouldnt know who scored in the Fa Cup Final in 1983 Replay , hes a much a Utd fan as Carragher, he wanted Chelsea first remember, shame he didn't get them. We are the worst run club in the Premier League fact , theres no fight , no spirit, no morals in the club anymore. Ive been down since Saturday because apart from my family, Utd come second, yeh sad maybe but i wish half our team thought the same way. Gary Neville, Roy Keane and Paul Scholes look more upset than the players when we lose ........nuff said .😡😡😡
How people were surprised actually surprises me, With all them massive ego's in that boardroom things like this always happen in any business, He obviously wasn't a yes man and on the outside of the inios click
Think ratcliffe had to sack him as he hired him , barada will employ and sack the next ... reason for sacking he fell out with barada and we know who won
Agent Berrada doing a great job 😂
If you've ever been in senior management at work you will know there is a shit ton of information that doesn't get filtered down to the public for obvious reasons...Don't jump to conclusions on INEOS just yet
Martinez has been awful since his post world cup bender
Ashworth is glazers patsy …. Front man ….. he just same as them
All they had to do was stay out of Qatars way
Jay stop saying optics.
Thing is qatar said they would clear the debt. We pay 100m every year on the debt. If sir Jim would be as generous as the qataries said they would be then we didn't need to make all these cuts and save 4m a year. Because if we clear the debt 70 to 100m depending on Intrest rates is saved every year.
Sir Jim is scum
Ronaldo should be banned from picking arsenal. Its too predictable
And you gullible deluded utd supporters were knocking one out when Radcliffe came and the only reason he did was because he lost out in buying Chelsea ffs
SJR is getting a lot of stick but if people were getting paid to work from home and do jobs that were required no wonder they all loved the glazers they had no one keeping a eye on things. So I’m happy he’s being proactive he’s not afraid to kick the can down the road with a wrong appointment like with ashworth he just wants to do what’s right for club!
Yeah you can see the effect already 🤣🤣🤣🤣
£66 a ticket it's costing £500 plus from where I live you can't get a ticket for £66 are you mental that's a bargain from here. You can never find a cheap ticket for Man utd how is it £66 lol 🤣
Glazers...Ineos...whoever...know that football is all many many people have....know people will somehow find the money to get to their beloved games. The Glazers raising ticket prices are one thing...but to come from a supposed 'Manchester lad who is proud of his working class roots'...is sickening. Ratcliffe is looking worse with each passing week.
Sorry Joe but your talking shit we still have so many players we need to get rid of Rashford,Erikson,Maguire,Shaw I'd question Bruno sometimes aswell we need to really think about who to bring in Jan a striker is a must
I don’t care how many other people keep saying what a travesty it is that ticket prices have gone up, I still can’t get over how f***ing cheap tickets are over there. Try supporting a major team in a major sport in the US, and have your eyes opened.
No there not failing stop inciting impatience from the fans with these stupid headlines. Just chill out. It’s not worth asking the question your only doing it to boost your engagement and pockets
INEOS OUT
Why is this an issue,you've had " bankers n rugby boy run the whole club for ,how long....find something else to cry about, maybe club bigger talent.
Ineos out
Glazers out
they know more than u do. the main thing there doing is getting handle on wages an overall spend. negotiating things were a joke before. apart from that seems fine
I wish Qatar would have naught us, they’d have just got best in class across the board, been able to afford offload expensive players. And most importantly put profit back into the club, not on interest payments and dividends. Glazers ruined this club
I’m just concerned about the pattern of Ineos, and the pattern is repeating itself, which will not rebuild this car crash of a club in a way to achieve sustainable success.