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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2023
- On June 23 2016, Britain voted on whether to stay or leave the EU in a referendum that divided the country's opinion.
Since the decision was made to leave, has faced unprecedented challenges, with the COVID pandemic, the cost of living crisis and a confidence crisis with the government.
Richard was joined by ERC Legal Advisory Group member Martin Howe KC to discuss the vote 7 years on from that historic day.
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Is rejoining the EU an option for the UK?
No financialy but remoaners don’t care abhow much it will cost us They just say at least we won’t have to que up at the airport 🙈
It is essential and inevitable.
@@imbonkers3629 We would only profit from joining the single market.
A better question would be: is letting UK rejoin an option for EU? In case you don't know, there are lots of "European Brexiters" that would never allow UK back.
Nope why should we
GDP volumes in the eurozone and the EU are more than 2% higher than the level recorded in the final quarter of 2019 before the Covid pandemic struck - unlike in the UK, where the economy remains 0.5% smaller.
Agree 100% but when have facts ever influenced Brexit Tears.
France in civil war, Germany in recession and money flooding out of the country, war raging on the EU's border. You must be mad.
Everything they say we have done COULD have been done as members
No you can't get rid of tariff barriers in the EU.
@@chrismchale543Sure you can. It is caled "trade deal". But the EU only makes trade desls, which also benefit the EU. - Unlike ghe UK.
@@Innoruuk The EU has about 30 out of 78 trade deals currently active and most of those are with micro states like Kosovo and Andorra. The EU is under 15% of global trade and that is shrinking.
@@crouchingtiger9108 And all the trade deals the EU has are good ones. For the EU at least. How many trade deals do the UK have, which benefit the UK?
Adjusted for inflation our EU exports are way down. How could they not be?
How is it that politicians who will be running political campaigns for political office can have TV showdown? Doesn’t that give them an unfair advantage compared to their opponents?
it’s no use leaving the EU when this govt have increased the National Debt to absurd record levels.
Our government is slower than a tax rebate getting things done
Looks like Brexit was good for finance regulations but nothing else. Exactly what people voted for.
What EU is good for? It's a neoliberal project, it's a disaster for all the countries, even Germany begins to suffer, and if UK is in a bad situation it has everything to do with its own neoliberal policy
I believe one person benefitted - £7+ million,
Only if we rejoin. Admit it leavers ,you swallowed the lie and now we all have to live with your actions.
You don't. You can move to the EU. Bye.
@@truckerfromreno Well actuallly thanks to you ,even that isn't so easy anymore.
@@nigelground283 What nonsense.
@@truckerfromreno 90 days in any 6 month period . You don't even know what you voted for do you.
Another example of the rich playing politics and saying just what you want to hear.
Fool Me Once, Shame on You; Fool Me Twice, Shame on Me
VAT reduced from 21% to 6% on Energy in tiny Belgium without the EU having any way to stop it yet still lying about the VAT
We are still in the transition period. ???
Would your ''legal advisor;; be more specific with regard to the duration of ''the long term?
One year, five years, 20 years?
Does ''seer'' have any divine forecasts about what the economic will look like between now and our arrival at El Dorado?
There is a legal opinion that the UK could not re-join the EU because the UK doesn't have a written constitution which wasn't an issue when the UK joined the EEC
Right. But then the rules of the EU have developed since EEC times. The rules of today are different to the situation of 1973. The Copenhagen and the Maastricht treaties were only later.
It would be tragic if such a big unit would not evolve..
I'm not a lawyer but i'm not so 100% that EU rules demand a written constitution - at least it does not explicitly. It only says on the Copenhagen treaty
'Membership requires that candidate country has achieved stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights, respect for and protection of minorities, the existence of a functioning market economy as well as the capacity to cope with competitive pressure and market forces within the Union. Membership presupposes the candidate's ability to take on the obligations of membership including adherence to the aims of political, economic and monetary union.'
Any legal text requires some interpretation, and it would be up to the ECJ to state that stability of institutions demands a written constitution.
I try to write as objective as possible, but if you allow some private thoughts.
If necessary or not, i guess a written constitution would do the UK good! If only because it would force the country to reflect the existing institutions and basic rules and to answer questions which pop up during each serious political debate.
The role of the monarchy, the role of the house of Lord, the relation between the member countries and the central body, the role of England - the biggest member but still without a parliament.
I'm an elderly German, and i know my history pretty well. The installation of the West-German constitution (which is still called Grundgesetz 'basic law' not constitution here, because back then nobody wanted to write a constitution ass long as the nation was divided) has been a total stroke of luck for the young democracy. The people who did design this set of rules did for a big part came out of Nazi prisons or camps or had been refugees in other countries and with this background they created a very balanced and fair system which for the biggest part remains unchanged since then.
If necessary or not, i guess a written constitution would do the UK good! If only it would force people to think about the role of the UK after colonialism is over in a rapidly changing world.
I'm not sure that the EU'd take us back so soon We're independent now so we can do what's necessary to rejoin the EU including a new constitution, just a matter of the will of the people.
Or we could wait and see if the EU fails and then we can re-establish better co-operation and closer political ties to benefit the UK and European countries we have an agreement with. That won't require a referendum because we wouldn't be joining anything.
He talks about written constitution but the requirement is a stable democracy working under proper rule of law. Is he saying that the UK does not qualify?
@@uweinhamburg It does not require a written constitution. The UK does have a body of law which frames it's constitution. There is no requirement for such. Any legal expert can use the UK's prior membership as evidence of this interpretation should that question ever come up. The idea that a written constitution is a requirement is baloney.
@@davidread6290 How long have people said that either the EEC or the EU will fail and how many died from old age in the meantime?
TPP, and AUKUS is nothing to what we had with the EU.
Beng a vassal state of Berlin was something good?
We still trade in fact imports have increased so has exports
@vincentmckenna1755 *if you don’t count inflation..
If you account for inflation, exports have reduced havent they.. I had this very argument with another Brexit support who told me it had gone from 54% to 42%
As I pointed out, that’s not a good thing as we are selling less to our largest trading partner. This is due to UK businesses moving into the EU, therefore no longer paying into the British tax system.
@equaliser2265 TPP = toilet paper partnership?
@laurenceBDontYaNo Just to be clear.. I have no idea if 54% or 42% is factual.. just pointing out that I’ve had conversations with two different leave supporters with two different arguments around exports. The previous claim was that a drop in exports was made out to be a brexit benefit.. and he kept calling me clueless..
JAM tomorrow, same old Tory BS. Amazed that anyone out there falls for it
Brexit has been a great success for the United Kingdom in guaranteeing the country’s independence and sovereignty and Britain will never sacrifice this by rejoining the European Union under any circumstances.
Lies lies and lies
the unicorns will come, why dont you se the reality its failed even farage thinks so
You don't think he said that to make a point. It certainly fired the remoaners.
@@adrianrouse5148 no its suppoted by the evidance we are worse off
Being 100% dependent on the USA for your nuclear deterence is not a sovereignty issue for you. Your choice no problem but stop about sovereignty first then
One deluded Brexiter agrees with another deluded Brexiter.
What benifits are in the eu ,we just give them money
One sad remoaner can’t get over we left the EU 🙈
@@vincentmckenna1755lol when I discuss the money 💰 it would cost us to rejoin they say well at least we won’t have to que up at the airport lol 😆
@vincentmckenna1755 how did we become worse off economically, despite having no membership fee to pay?
@@mbeale100 who says we are worse off
Why would we rejoin when other countries are looking to leave? Politicians have sat on their backsides instead of having a will to get things done.
❤ agreed..
Politicians usually don’t live in the suburb they work for, I guess countries and politicians do the same but nationally and internationally.
Who's allegedly looking to leave? Tell us and make us laugh!
@@kurtgodel5236 once Brics forms France will if they get a chance 😂
@@K94Life There is not a scintilla of evidence for your claim. Let alone is it clear what you think the BRICS countries are supposed to "form" into.
@@kurtgodel5236 you asked for a laugh 😂
The benefits of guys like you is great enough.....
Really?
@@davidread6290 C'mon man..
Never judge a tree by the fruit that it bares?
Judge it by what it talks about?
The gift is priceless......
@@widervision710 Interesting that you write about trees. If people like this achieve high office, including the current. inept Conservative MPs, there won't be any trees, animals, sea life, birds and ? humankind.
People like this crud lie, and leave our children and future generations a legacy of a catastrophic future. Listen to the trees they'll confirm this.
Which undefined Brexit did Richard want again?
Control of our borders
Play n simple and you know it , to leave the eu 100%
@imbonkers3629 And we left.. Richard Tice refers to Ben Habib suggesting we’ve not had Brexit. Which one is right??
He doesn't know. Never did. He's not that bright. His partner is Isobel Oakeshott. Say no more.
@@imbonkers3629 "Play n simple"?? How old are you? Seven?
Brexit as good under pressure as an oceongate sub.
Brexit has nothing to do with current uk problems, neoliberal policies are the issue, and by the way, EU is also in a very bad situation, because it's a neoliberal project as well and we can see how succesful it is........
@@captainpawpawchannel Dear lord save us from people who cant admit they are wrong.
@@9hawklord in what way am i wrong, do you even know the Lisbon treaty? Do you know the economic situation of the eurozone? Have you checked the trade balances of the eurozone countries? The deindustrialization of Europe? EU and euro are neoliberal projects and there are a disaster, brexiters were right, now being out of the EU won't fix all your problems of course, get rid of your neoliberal politicians
@@Buckets1000 france is in a very bad situation: unemployment, inflation, deindustrialuzation, public debt, and huge trade balance deficit
@@Buckets1000 in what terms are you talking? In gdp, uk is still higher than france
Germany conservative AFD party now the largest local party, and set to win in the next elections, who are in favor of leaving the Euro.
So what? That is a big party in a multiparty system. It is nothing like the majority. Current polling has it at less than 20% of the vote.
@@stephenconway2468 . yes but with the other right wing parties Germany may have a right wing coalition government for the first time,
@@raymondfry5763 I looked at the numbers and it still ends up at 20% max. So ... no way will that happen. The German population itself likes the EU. The last figure I saw was 78% positive and the trend was up from 65% a few years before.
This is just a populist party trying to get hard core voters. It is like shoring up your base.
This is not correct. The AFD is currently second with 19% but the CDU/CSU has 27%. (SPD = 18.5%, Green = 15%, FDP=7%)
And I guess that you have no clue about German politics because no other party wants to form any coalition with the AFD.
For this reason, there is 0 chance of a right wing coalition with the AFD.
@@male7097 Great comment. I responded to this person as well based on a tiny bit of research and it was obvious that he was wrong. I don't have great personal knowledge of German politics but even I could see he was talking rubbish. Why do people make these silly comments? They "want" and then they "believe" but reality does not care about their emotions. The same populist emotional stance is everywhere now. It is why the disappointed Brexit believer blames some conspiracy theorists.
Why do we have so many people ignoring facts?
I live in Spain and, trust me, things are no better over here. Food is very expensive in the supermarkets. The quality of fruit and vegetables is awful. Electricity prices went through the roof and the price of gas is ridiculous. Prices at the pumps have gone up hugely, albeit, to be fair they have come down a bit again. If the government/town hall can tax you on something then they will. Farmers pay for permits to burn detritus from their fields and the smog hanging over the valley some days is chronic. Spain is only part of the EU when it suits it and, as far as we can see, the UK is the only country who paid any attention to EU legislation.
@@laurenceBDontYaNo Since 2018. Everything has gotten much more expensive. Also, the Spanish government do not give any help. None at all.
yes but you can move anywhere else in the EU without any one stopping you
@@rockerjim8045 So? Try and sell your house in Spain without paying a huge percentage of tax. Doing well in Spain is not encouraged. They do not like enterprise - or anyone to do well and make money. God forbid you could be successful. Also, the level of income tax is higher than the UK, no sick pay, etc
Stop spouting the usual tosh and enjoy the benefits of Brexit. *Bwhahahahahahaha!*
Ypu could do with some "baying atention". Maybe ghen you wouldn't write such bs.
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