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fantastic video!
Thanks brother! It was a fantastic fun day hanging with you and the local crew. I really like that foxeer vtx and camera I was impressed with the results. 🤟👊👍
Great work, guys! Botgrinder, you feel you will replace your old goggles with the HD zero?
I'm not happy with the latency of the DJIs looking for a new pair. So far, I'm feeling these 👍 over the DJIs
I switched from the hd0 vrx to the walksnail vrx and I didn't notice any difference in latency I really like walksnail im probably gonna try to sell my hd0 stuff
@@joemck1235 You have to go with what works for you brother! 🤟👍
Dude fix your capacitors or I'll sneak into your house and do it for you!
Based on where you were standing, how much signal was shooting out the side to your goggles? Did the penetration really increase as you went up the floors?
Would love to see a repeat with you standing in the center of the lowest floor so the signal is forced to go through the concrete.
Good point. I'm assuming that the main reason the signal degraded as I went up especially near the top was the walls up there had less holes from what I could see. We were standing with our patches and omnis facing the building in this test. Definitely want to do more comparisons with these two systems. Thanks for your feedback JB! 🤟🙏👍
While that would be a good torture test,... nobody.... not even dji pilots would do that in the real world under normal conditions. They know it's going to be trash flying conditions no matter what system they had, you're either going to fly blind or end up flying like your gimbals are on ice with your quad dancing left and right while you try to stabilize your flying. Such a test would be just for kudos/for the heck of it. Anyways, what they did is closer to what normal pilots would do.
@DS007 definitely has me curious though to how far each system could get before drop out 🤔
Exactly what I requested! IMO, that test was too easy as there was never a place that they couldn't fly any farther.
Like DS007 said...a test flying up the floors from inside is not how we typically fly. So, flying around solid buildings is something we do in real life flying. 👍
@@edrone_ Bardwell alerady did the exact test he's asking here, which is why I wonder why he's asking them to repeat his test. Check JB's channel he has already done this test with the obvious predictable results with the exception that he never ever tells you what his control link feels like under harsh conditions. Only comments on how it looks with the presumption that a person could fly just fine under those conditions which isn't true. Now perhaps it's true that he can't tell the difference in latency but I wouldn't put much trust in that as, every pilot will avoid any situation where the signal quality is degraded on dji because the control link turns rubbish. Analogue will avoid it because even though they can fly through a black and white image and have a good control link they would rather not fly on the edge of their video link and the same goes for HDZ.... every one does this exact same thing... no exceptions and that's system agnostic too.
The way bot was able to follow him most of the way. He would be great at following rc planes and getting some awesome footage 🎉
Bot is a fantastic pilot! 🤟👍
Glad to see you 2 in a video…Two of my favorite pilots!
Thanks bro! 🙏👍 I appreciate you 🤟
Awesome your doing such a great job. You do so much for our community I don't know if anyone has taken the time to just stop and thank you for all that you do!!! Keeping up up to date on latest frames,motors,fc,motors,guests and events is a full time gig! Peace my brother reach out if you have any marketing questions that's what I do for a living.
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The support of awesome people like yourself is what drives me to keep doing everything I'm doing. I really appreciate the kind words of encouragement and it is refreshing to hear that someone notices all the hard work that goes into running a TH-cam channel. Thank you brother! 🙏🙏👍👊🤟
Great video and testing guys! Next test please...find some similarly large buildings, but solid - no holes in the sides and through to the other side. Then fly around the buildings and see how far you get. Perfect test!
The parking garage was fine, but it had holes all around the perimeter. That's unique to only parking garages. Please do the same test with solid buildings and flying around them. You could also do the same test with the same parking garage but be INSIDE the parking garage near the center, and try flying up the floors. Thank You! 😎🤘
Thanks 👍 I'm definitely interested in doing more testing with more challenging orientations.
I had the same thought, my FS goggles died and I'm really new but I'm considering getting the HD0's and I want some more solid wall/ heavy trees penetration testing
@@digitalabstractions Fuck man, don't get HDZero... It has less penetration, slightly, than analog! It's terrible! 😩
DJI penetrates better than ANYTHING, with Walksnail second. You can't even fly around the corner of a building without HDZero completely losing signal and going to Rainbow 🌈 screen of death! You're done!
DJI will fly completely around the building and very often without ANY distortion to the crystal clear image at all. If you do get some it's for a few seconds typically, and you're right back to crystal clear! And I'm talking way, Way more crystal clear than HDZero ever dreamed of. That's why you can actually fly through a thick forest, very slowly, looking for each ghost branch and piece of little scraggle, seeing it clear as a bell, and you'll end up getting out through the other side or making a full loop back out where you entered! 👍
I've flown up into huge tree canopies... Yup, right into the middle of a giant tree and through the labyrinth of tiny branches and leaves, out the other side... Easy! HDZero can't even enter either the forest or the tree canopy. It's just not sharp enough! Joshua Bardwell has demonstrated just that. I look for his video.
There's no comparison. Plus DJI is almost bullet proof. Little to really zero defectives or breaking VTX's. Hdzero they are fragile! People break VTX's so often some have stopped flying HDZero because they're tired of replacing VTX's over and over and over, etc. Again! Seriously not durable. Costs way too much. DJI V2 goggles are cheap used and often like new, under $300 and they do great analog FPV too!
Buy what you want. But if you want to fly literally ANYWHERE, go DJI and know you've got the very best. It's exactly why it has close to 50% market share and HDZero is 13%. People want the performance. It's why all the big and semi big TH-cam review channel guys fly DJI.
Now if you exclusively race, buy HDZero. But, know it's a one trick pony.
Don't believe me, people say different? How many times have you heard of people flying FPV right into the middle of a thick tree, like a maple or an oak, and flying inside the tree, not crashing, and then flying out a tiny little gap of 8"x8" on the other side of the tree! Image clarity and penetration, baby! It's where it's at! You haven't heard of anyone doing it because those other systems can't do it! Fact.
Great test. Excellent vid to both of you, Peace🙂
Thanks my friend! 🤟🙏👍
Great test, awesome work!
Thanks Dan! Appreciate you brother 🙏🤟👍
Great job guys, you can see the difference, a video doesn't lie👊💪👍
Thanks 👍 The technology is definitely getting better.
Great test, thanks to both of you for doing that ;)
Thanks bro 🙏 Appreciate your support 👊🤟
This video was awesome. Definitely impressed.
Thanks my friend! Yeah I was blown away by both systems to be honest. 🤟👍🙏
Great test.. a really valuable comparison we all wanted to see!! :) Awesome video man! Fly safe! hahaha!
Thanks Alvy! Appreciate you brother 🤟🙏👍
Great stuff guys! HDZero and analog FTW Baby!
Hell yeah Bobby! I was impressed with both too! 👊🤟👍
interesting, sick comparison hell yeah!
Thanks brother! 🤟🙏👍
Fly safe!! Love it !!
Thanks brother! 🤟🙏👊
Good test! Glad to see it's almost as good as analog 👍
I was impressed with both! Thanks brother 🤟🙏
Good job jones & bob 👍🏼
Thanks Bill 👍
The best comparison I have seen, the system did good
Thank you so much! 🤟🙏
I'm surprised with how well hdzero did. great video
Specially with the stock freestyle antenna too!
Always a great vid
Thanks brother! Your support means alot 🙏🤟👍
Having fun with Scott Manley's tag line eh? Lol. Fly Safe! 👊
😅 took a couple of takes lol
The quality seems great !
I think so! I'm really impressed with these HDZero goggles definitely a huge step up for both systems.
🔥🔥🔥Awesome content! This is some great editing. 🦾 I am learning bits at a time however this is extremely entertaining and encouraging!! Happy flying brother!
Thank you so much I really appreciate your support and feedback! 🤟🙏🙏👍
Best real world experience review of these goggles there is. Very well done. 🙌
Thanks bro! I can't wait till you get yours 👊🙏🤟
IMO, that test was too easy. It didn't show what happened to both when they broke up a ton. Neither did that.
@@KOrnhOliO1 hey I could go for more tests too. Edrone already did a review but this is just another test. I like long term reviews and this gave me a good idea of what to expect flying in a parking garage. I’d probably use analog at a parking garage. Glad he took the time to at least test it. They happen to be close. Happens.
@@WindChillFPV I just don't think a lot of FPV pilots are ever gonna fly in a parking garage from 100ft. outside the garage. No offense on the test...it's more than I did! lol ... but it seems the test was set up to give the VERY BEST results. ie. standing a distance back from the garage so the signal could easily get in through the slats on the sides of the garage...using a parking garage that had slats...and not flying from inside the garage on the first floor and seeing how many floors he could fly up. IMO, most would fly in a parking garage to get out of the rain and cold, not from a field across from the garage. But, it was at least a test.
I want them to fly around solid buildings, of at least two floors and see how they do.
@@KOrnhOliO1 good ideas for tests, maybe he’ll do some of those.
(fyi I was at this session and they were doing this while they were waiting for everybody else to show up. Spur of the moment thing. And I support the homies so I might be a bit biased;)
Awesome Erik very impressive 😂😂Botgrinder 👊🏻
Thanks brother 🙏 Always appreciate your support! 👊🤟👍
great comparison! I think part of the reason you were getting more breakup around the turns was bot was following you close, you were both outputting I assume max the VTX can do, and the quads being so close to each other interfered with each other as well. If you both kept more distance I think you'd see a different result. But either way, great job! LIKED!
Thanks for the feedback! That makes sense. I think Bot liked following me closely haha he is a great tracker! 👍🙏🤟
Great job. Analog is still in the game.
Absolutely 💯 I was impressed with both systems and I really like that foxeer t Rex cam that Bot was using. Thanks brother 🙏👊🤟
Thank you guys. Great test & comparison 🔥. The hdz working fine with breakup similar to the analog. Hovewer the analog module seems working better with the hdz goggle system instead with the fs goggle 😉
Thanks! Yeah for sure the analog impressed me with the HDZero goggle. 🤟🙏👍
Awesome video! For analog I seem to get better results from using a dipole antenna on the vtx vs the Omni style antenna 🎉
Dipole antennas really do work well. Thanks for your feedback! 🤟🙏👍
I've been running analog all this time and loved it. Recently got the walk Snail VRX VTX and it really brought me to the HD world 🤯. I've been looking hard at the HdZero since shark bate came out. The thing that I'm noticing the most with this HDzero system versus analog... Is that HdZero looks incredibly clear all the time except for the rainbow static. And analog does weird color changes and lines and has breakup, sometimes even when you're super close. Definitely impressed with Bot foxeer cam/VTX/antenna combo when flying the garage
I have really been impressed with the way HDZero has continually improved over time. These new goggles are a massive step forward for the system. I agree that foxeer t Rex camera paired with the Reaper is a solid choice for analog.
Lol bot you were so well behaved in that video lmfao
Bot is super chill in person sometimes he is awesome 🤟👍
Great test guys! I was thinking HDzero wouldn’t do as well as analog. Very surprising.
Thanks! I was impressed with both.
I always learned to not compare apples with pears but what's not to love a wholesome duo test vid!
Haha thanks! Yeah I was impressed with both systems. 🤟🙏👍
@@edrone_ They do pretty well, although nothing beats the goggles 2, I sat inside and penetrated 5 floors of a building, I was still able to keep it. Only the low light is doo doo
The whole video till u finished flying i thought bot was on hd zero... That's why I was wondering how good your DVR looks 🤣 sorry I'm high a.f. 🙃😅. Great video, Loved the music 🎵
Haha I'm glad you enjoyed it 😄 We were both using the HDZero goggles so I can see that happening. Thanks for your support!👊🙏🤟
Looked to me like one of those antennas was buried in a TPU mount. Pretty sure Painless 360 did some testing on that and said TPU mounts that cover the antenna lose a lot of signal.
Interesting 🤔 I had heard the opposite that tpu did not affect the transmitting signal. I will definitely have to give that a watch. Thanks for your feedback. 🤟🙏👍
it would have to block it, it's basically rubber like insulating synthetic material
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Good test. Just needed a DJI o3 to compare to. I am noticing considerable better range and connection with the o3 vs original Air and vista.
Thanks 👍 We figured these two systems are similar enough in the way they handle the signal and breakup that would make for a interesting comparison in this particular environment.
Best part about HDzero is its still really new, and can be continuously improved upon
Absolutely! I was using the stock antenna on the vtx also and I have been told that upgrading that makes a difference also with performance upgrade.
@@edrone_ it made a really big difference on my whoop board. used iflight sigma lollipops
i hope orqa didnt bought immersionRC for just trophy lol.. I really wonder what digital stuff one of the most experienced company will come up with. I really want to see ORQA nails it because hdzero goggle is sooo ugly 🤪🤣
@Alperen ÖZGÜR I don't think the HDZero goggles look that bad I mean any Goggle attached to our faces is going to look weird lol 😆
@@edrone_ hahaha yea but they have different confidince-boost multipliers.. 🤪 any i still couldn't buy ORQA because of indirect effects of world's insane tax-rates wars 😂 but competition is always good 👍🏻
Great video guys 👍 But I’m not getting rid of DJI stuff yet. lol
Thanks Glenn 👍 It's great to have so many options my friend! 🤟🙏
Hot, that was a fantastic test and the results are super impressive. I really wish BNFs came with that 1w hdzero transmitter, but it looks like I'll end up having to build my own.
I was impressed with both systems for sure!
@@edrone_ Agreed, Analog is still a champ, I can't quite get myself to part with analog drones. Patiently waiting on my HDZ goggles now =)
@@Latchfpv you are going to love them I'm excited for you!
@@edrone_ My antennas for them arrived today, I'm frothing =D
It might do even better if the antenna on the quad is more exposed. No 3D printed stuff around the antenna, it messes up the tune of the antenna.
Someone else had mentioned this also. I was told by some peers that tpu did not affect the transmitting signal so I'll need to do some research on this but thanks for your feedback. Any way to improve performance I'm up for. 🤟🙏👍
Botgrinder is in the video and I haven't heard a single cuss word? In what alternate universe was this filmed? 😂
Haha This is the real Bot? 🤔
@@edrone_ I'm starting to believe in shape-shifting aliens
I did not get the "going through xth floor"" thing though as guys were obviously outside the building and all floors naturally had basically the same level of signal from the outside (except some slight changes due to the angle).
It's not like other "garage floor tests" where the VTX is in the garage and each floor adds additional layer of concrete.
While flying I was communicating with Bot so he knew where I was at the time to make following easier. The reason the signal got worse at the top was mainly because the holes in the concrete were less up there so more solid concrete in between us. 🤟🙏👍
That botgrindr guy looks like beebop from tmnt
It's the nose ring I think? 🤔
Great comparison between the two video systems, was the botgrinder fellow a deep fake. It did not talk like him at all. :)
Thanks! Maybe this is the real Botgrinder?? 🤔
Great video! I’ve been forcing HDZ into some challenging RF environments (complete LOS
Thanks brother! I have been really happy with HDZero and especially with the new goggles! 🤟🙏👊
@@edrone_ Subbed!
@Jeff Parisse thanks alot 🙏 I subbed as well much appreciated! 🤟👍
Both had breakup, both had almost identical quality.. the digital had slightly better image, but.. win win w either of these. Im not moving from my dji setup, its just too much of an investment but, this is great progress!
I was impressed with both systems actually. I didn't expect for us to be able to make it all the way through to the top without loosing all video.
@@edrone_ this technology is amazing… I wish I had an endless budget lol. Keep up the good work.
Awesome, love HD zero. Will I ever own it... No hahaha, but it's still an epic system!!!
Thanks man! Fly whatever works for you for sure! 🤟👍
@@edrone_ Anything that's gets you flying right :) always content with whatever I can get.
Looks good. Sometimes analog looked better as in break ups.
I could help but to watch bot chase you. Almost Every time you said oh little break up. Bots vision of break up wasn’t as bad.
But the clarity is still good with HDZ
Thanks brother! I am also told that if I upgrade my stock antennas on my quads the results will improve also so going to place a order today and try some new ones out. 🤟🙏
Great video! But, I don't see how the penetration really increases with each floor of that parking structure. Go to the opposite side of the parking structure and then watch what happens to HDZero. Just flying over trees, even at 200mW, resulted in nearly full rainbow blackout! Scared the crap out of me. I'm now back on analog -- at least I can see through the interference.
main lesson there... mind your take off spot!... ^^ signal with plenty gaps to penetrare....
Yes yes penetrate
Great comparison! HDZero did great here, but do you ever feel it goes from minimal breakup to unflyable without enough warning?
Not usually unless there is a ton of interference. Usually I can tell when I need to start coming back. Thanks 🤟
Pretty good result for both systems, the stock hdzero antenna is not the best but it handled it pretty well there 👏
I have had pretty good results with the stock antenna but I am definitely interested in doing some upgrades soon. What antenna are you using?
@@edrone_ vas minion or cherry rush
@AnthonyFPVMiniQuad thank you Anthony 🤟🙏👍
@@edrone_ on my quad i have a rush cherry, but i think every quality antenna will do better than the stock one. The radiation pattern is all over the place 😅
@iroNLionFPV thanks for the information I am going to be placing a order today for sure! 👊🤟👍
A legit real world test. Seems like HD zero works great
Thanks! Yeah I was impressed especially using the stock antenna that comes with the freestyle vtx. I'm ordering some better ones and will be testing those as well. 🤟👍🙏
@@edrone_ so it will only get better! Hell yeah!!
Niice. I love experiments. Subbd
Thanks 👍 Much appreciated 🤟🙏
I need to see which way those patches were pointed. The *vast* majority of people fly with their heads facing the ground which means the patch is pretty useless because it isn't pointed at the model. In fact, most of the timethe patch just picks up a reflected signal from the ground which is actually reverse-polarized because it's reflected. Show us your head orientation 🙂
I would definitely have to agree 👍 I was actively trying to hold my head straight for this test I can say with confidence. Thanks for watching and your feedback Bruce 👍🤟🙏
Guilty.
Touche analog proved itself reliable im interest how the akk long range 3000mw would hold up against the foxeer
The analog did really well! I've always been a fan of Foxeer.
I'm all about the penetration, even in FPV too
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nice vid
Thank you 🙏🤟
@@edrone_ I can't wait too get a pair of hdzero goggles, I've been using hdzero since the start and love the system
@Spazbird same here I have been along for the ride since sharkbyte haha. You will love the goggles brother I can't wait till you get them also. 🤟
@@edrone_ as soon as I do I'm tagging you in the vid lol
I like this comparison. HD Zero system is looking better and better for me.
Thank you I was really impressed with both systems for the penetration testing👍🤟🙏
The foxxer vtx is running to 1W?
I'm pretty sure he was using max power.
So... You're comparing 1W HDZero with 1.6W analog? Not exactly fair... And what channels did you use? If you put HDZero on R8 and analog on R1 then that will be a pretty bad disadvantage again, since HDZero doesn't transmit as high power on the higher frequencies (like many analog vtxs do too, I think).
Also, what you're forgetting is HDZero won't just "drop out" and totally drop the link with zero warning like DJI & Walksnail will. It'll go staticky and then come back immediately when you punch out - just like analog.
HdZero was on R1. Analog was on R3 I believe.
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Thank you! Will you try caddx walksnail vrx 6s kit at the same place please 😁
Definitely want to do some more comparisons for sure! 👍👊🤟
@@edrone_ you guys rock 🤟
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compare latency
Many sources say hdzero has lower latency than (hdr) analog