Ornette Coleman Round Trip Boxset: Is it the Highlight we hoped for?
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- Germany:
Ornette Coleman Round Trip 6 LP Boxset: amzn.to/3shHtny
USA:
Ornette Coleman Round Trip 6 LP Boxset: amzn.to/3e1TeGq
United Kingdom:
Ornette Coleman Round Trip 6 LP Boxset: amzn.to/3p6mxhm
this blue note box set looks absolutely stunning, yet it doesn't cost as much as a single ERC record^
right Luca :-)
So thrilled to have this. I'm really knocked out that they did it. Even among Ornette Coleman fans, I don't think this series of albums is as popular as the Atlantic releases, or the work he did in the '70s. Two things to reply to your comments. 1) Great point about the joy in the music, and how it is the smiling, high-spirited side of avant-garde jazz. 2) Not everyone feels the need to justify this music as listenable. It is terribly under-represented in audiophile archival reissues for vinyl, even though for labels like Blue Note it was very much a powerful aspect of the label's mission. So when a Don Cherry release comes along, or a Sam Rivers, it's a real cause for celebration ... Not trigger warnings. (Speaking in general, I know you praise these recordings as they should be). It's the other stuff I avoid, as the hard bop business can become very repetitive. Luckily, there is a thriving scene today and many of the artists are releasing recordings on vinyl (although I doubt many are AAA, I've attended many recording sessions around NYC over the years and the live acoustic vibe abides).
I've, so far, bought every Tone Poet and they have been stellar, including this set.
Nice to see Ornette Coleman getting some love! I have a 1978 (?) Japanese reissue made by King Records of volume 1 of 'At The Golden Circle' that I dig. I just spun it again because you mentioned the clarity of even the hand claps, and I agree, they sound clear and sharp. I think it's just a really great recording of a great session.
Cheers, Tom
I've received mine, haven't had time to listen. Thanks for the preview! Also looking forward to the Craft Coleman set coming out soon. Good job, thank you!
My family put hands over their ears when ever I play his albums….but then I was like that when my dad did the same….🤣🤣
I picked this up and loved it! The sound as you say is amazing, and very uplifting music throughout!
I just bought these from Amazon, amazing quality! Incredible sound, the best LPs I own so far! Recommended 100%
Bought this on your recommendation. It is AMAZING quality. ❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉 thank you for doing these videos!
It’s very challenging with the immense release schedule of Blue Note, Acoustic Sounds etc. however, the box looks crazy cool. I’m looking forward to the Genesis of Genius box later in March.
Your are right, Michael. Its an iconic Boxset. A tough but satisfying listening. The sound us incredible good, turn up the volume and your living room becomes the golden circle. But be carefull roomates or familymembers who are not so much into jazz will quickly move out then. Could aswell be a chance…. Who knows. Anyhow the boxset provides hours of listening fun. I ordered because of your recommendstion in an earlier video. Thank you very much for the tipp.
In the beginning, I was only interested in two live albums from Stockholm, but over time I decided to order that vinyl box set. Thanks Michael.
Great video Michael. So far, I’m pretty happy with my box set.
I usually take my time immersing myself in box sets. This week I've been listening to the two volumes of Golden Circle a lot. Like many people, I consider both masterpieces. And I agree with you, the quality of the reissues is extraordinary. Overall, I think the quality of these record sleeves is excellent. At the same time, I am reading the interesting biography made by Maria Golia. Really enjoying Coleman.
Michael, I feared that I would not be able to "get into" the "Foxhole" LP, but I found it absolutely listenable and interesting. Having heard Don Cherry's "Where is Brooklyn" a couple of weeks ago, I was skeptical, because THAT is something that does not appeal to me at all, but damn.....every disk in this beautiful box is, as you say...."breath taking". Best to you my friend.
Another great Ornette record is his soundtrack to Naked Lunch. He also plays on Jamaaladeen Tacuma's Renaissance Man, which I recently purchased sealed from EIL in England. All of these need to be remastered and reissued on wax. The entire Gramavision catalogue, in fact, needs to be reissued. It's criminal that those remain out of print.
Objects like this are always about the music...but not only. I agree. Nice video and thank you for your channel.
I have two of Ornette Coleman albums Newyork is now and Twins . Ornette's free-jazz was so different from Miles Davis's jazz fusion and was just as original. I like both jazz fusion and free jazz equally .
Ornette's Prime Time records are great also. I have the double LP In All Languages and Of Human Feelings on wax. These need to be reissued. My Tone Poet box arrived a few days ago. Looking forward to cleaning and listening to it.
Definitely a must have box. Appear to be amazing. I'm waiting for mine. Great Video Michael
thx Sara :-)
@@Michael45RPM you're welcome Michael
Haven’t got the box yet, I have many of those in early pressings. The live ones are amazing, super strong and dynamic. That’s why the remaster sounds so good. But I’m getting this box… :)
I think about hanging these records on the wall, such brilliant pictures and shiny!
Haven't opened the wallet for this one yet but still a good day. My Stanley Turrentine Tone Poet was delivered today.
For now the only free jazz record in my collection is Ornette Coleman, The Shape of Jazz To Come, but I'm definitely interested in this box.
Looks fantastic my friend!
I like Ornette Colemans work with James Blood Ulmer....not for the faint hearted!
Your taste and knowledge is so great Davis always liked it !!!!!
My copy, US buyer, shipped out a bit late for whatever reason and it showed up at just after I finished the video. Was a bit worried because the packing box looked pretty bad but it seems it survived intact. Managed to get a copy of his Atlantic box new at a discount and still need to get through that too.
I absolutely agree that the bass playing on foxtrot is out of this world.
So curious, got it this evening. Gonna break it open tomorrow and play some😎
I am interested in these two live albums.
Still thinking about getting this. Not sure yet.
The free jazz isn't my favorite but it sounds so good, its awesome!
Blue Note needs to get their packaging on the same level as Analogue Productions. I had a box a couple months ago where 4 out of the 5 jackets were damaged. They refunded and let me keep the records. I don't understand that policy other than it's how a large corporation operates.
hmmm somehow its still anoying ..... even if they give you the refund
@@Michael45RPM I agree. I'm more inclined to order Blue Note lps from AP.
Mine from jpc came in a box full of foam parts. No dents at all luckily
This is exactly right. Both the Verve Jazz Store and the Blue Note need to improve their packaging services. They use these thin boxes and as a result, the corners get creased and banged up in transit. Yes, they are pretty good on replacement policy, but like you say it doesn't make sense. Although lately they are trying to get away with just giving a discount. Blue Note and the Jazz store, if you read this, It's not rocket science guys, you just need sturdier boxes and mailers. Get with it already. I am tired of having to deal with it, it seems like every other order, corners get damaged. At up to $40 a record, there is no excuse.
I adore Ornette but I have never considered his Blue Note LPs to be essential elements of his discography. Maybe I need to give them another go.
Yes, I think you should.
Personal Favorite is 1972's Science Fiction on Columbia. it was so impactful and really opened up my Ornette World.
I love OC so had to buy this set. Yes, it's a beautiful object. But doing some comparing, it isn't sonically superior to the RVG 24-bit remaster CDs I bought years ago for about 12 euros each. By the way, it can't be. Vinyl just can't reach 24-bit resolution, it's physics, no matter how well it's mastered. Plus, on CD you get the bonus tracks, which are not on these LPs.
So yes, let's celebrate this set as a beautiful object; and at the same time, let's not fool ourselves into thinking it sounds "better" than previous reissue series...
ill remember that one,no no shnick shnack ...yes we all need that at the moment ...
Hi Michael, great video. Thanks for that. Still waiting for mine to be send. Did you see the last Chad Kassem video on youtube? They are now pressing a limited (couple of hundred) number of their great Prestige albums. They are also pressing the Bill Evans Riverside box again. All are for preorder now. The Evans boxset has a steep (not to say vertical) pricetag but i ordered it anyway. Have a nice weekend.
Good video again! This is actually one of the only tone poets I skipped. Personally I cannot listen to most of the albums, sorry! I do hope to see more boxset of Tone Poets, of superbe quality of course ;). Cheers!
Michael, I agree with your assessments and I will say to a new jazz listener, Ornette Coleman is a hard listen. I like Love Call first, Love and Gospel second, The Stockholm 1 and 2, then New York is Now and then the Fox Hole, which is a hard listen., especially with his little son playing the drums, sad but true. The box set is well done however. Bluenote must go deeper into their archives and give us a John Coltrane Blue Train, among other things.
Eagerly awaiting my copy!
Have received it too after your endorsements last month. The package it so nice, but I don’t like the music yet. Played every record now. Have to give it indeed a listen more than once 😉
I have never heard a worse violinist player than Ornette though🤭
Also as free as it gets indeed😂
👌👌
Just one comment. You have said on a number of your videos that good mastering and pressing helps you to get through these albums. Paying this type of money, in my opinion we should be buying albums that we like and not having to force ourselves though them. I think jazz aficionados should buy what they like, not just buy them all for the sake of it.
i think all of them is good before they are gone, later when you start digging the music it will be to late
By the way, the booklet is nice, some very well printed pictures, but skimpy. 12 pages. I'm not even certain it qualifies as booklet, it's so thin
I suspect that many people will purchase this box because it’s Blue Note, not because they like free jazz (of which I’m not a fan). Although I’m sure the box is well done and sounds very good, before you buy something you have to like that type of music and if you don’t no degree of presentation or re-mastering will improve it. To say “it’s not that bad,” means you have to convince yourself that you can listen to the music. If you start with that point of view you’ve lost the battle already and just wasting your money.
Are you and your collection on discogs?
have you had the opportunity to review the Ornette Atlantic Records box? USD175 for 10 LP's
not yet Fred
If you want to see one of the best live performances ever, full of raw energy and musical talent, watch these guys go to work and do their thing on KEXP.
They're called Squid, mindblowing!!!
They are asking $230US which is ridiculous for 6 pieces of vinyl. I love Ornette but those prices are stupid
Really looking forward to this. Unfortunately been totally messed about by Amazon UK. Pre-ordered in early December and they're estimating delivery up to mid-March! Other UK retailers have it in stock today.
thats bad!!!!!!
I wouldn't buy anything online from the UK. That's brexshit baby!
Sorry to hear about that. I’ve had similar experiences with Amazon and they kept moving up the due date for months before finally canceling it:(
I’ve found that for limited / high demand items, Amazon is a crap shoot for getting it (although easiest to do returns if any issues arise).
No opinions from me, yet! Still waiting for the shipment. Hahaha
Sehr schöne Box, Michael.
Der Preis erscheint für den Gegenwert von 6 LP's u. dem Aufwand schon fast fair zu sein.
Aber in dem Tempo, wie Blue Note nun wieder das schwarze Gold auf den Markt bringt, kann ich nicht ganz mithalten.
Wie ich sehe, du aber schon. 👍
Wow!!! 😁
❤️Heike
Schön wieder deinen Kommentar zu lesen. Ja das stimmt die geben Gas!!! Aber ist auch geiles Zeug :-)
@@Michael45RPM
Danke Michael
Ja, das ist das 'Problem'!
Geiles Zeug.
Und die Sucht nach der Musik u. dem besten Sound, den uns glücklicherweise die Plattenpressen derzeit nun wieder bescheren.
Dafür hat die Sucherei nach dem Original endlich ein Ende.
Allerdings ist das auch wirklich nur richtig 'geil' zu hören, wenn die Anlage das auch ist.
Eben 🔥 Einstein. 😜
Exakt!
Btw, folk singer one step is live
Wow thats a big news
@@Michael45RPM From your experience - will it be available in Germany or EU?
i order them directly from Music Direct
That's nice, but is it really necessary? There have been so many audiophile issues of this LP already.
Man muss schon verrückt sein um über eine Rückgabe zu denken auf Grund von einer Delle.
OC, was the last of Post + Hard Bop. After that was electric jazz....👎👎🏿. P.s. His son was somewhat noisy on drums.
🤙🤙🤙 Hab eine bestellt.
was this pressed at RTI?
Yes
Let's cut the crap here. Apart from the "Golden Circle" stuff, these records are one of the worst records of Coleman's career. Especially The Empty Foxhole is abysmal.
How do you feel about the small Ornette Coleman box being released by Craft?
Greg review, I wish I could squeeze the money out to pay for this but I’m gonna have to pass. Maybe it’ll be around for a while I don’t know, thanks again
"Die Auslieferung wird vorbereitet." *Heul* Du kleiner Schei... wo haste die denn wieder so schnell ergattert?😂😉
Pah :-)
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but there is no need to gush praise over what isn't even his best work. As others have mentioned, this isn't what an Ornette Coleman fan wants as these are weaker than his other albums.
So I thought to myself, why is Michael raving over this collection? And then it came to me. You have truly transitioned from super fan into a salesman with the monetization of your channel. Your opinions are no longer objective and should be subjected to deep scrutiny.
Hope you can find your way back to where you began. 😔
I rather relive my experience through SERE training then relisten to any of these, could care less what Kevin did with them. You won't burn in Hell if you admit there is jazz that is mediocre at best.